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Pakatan Rakyat promised democratic, transparent and accountable governance, a new economic agenda promoting vibrant growth, equity and power eradication based on need. I claim all these goals are being diligently pursued, if not yet realised, in the five states being ruled under this credo.

Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob is a trained lawyer and Malaysian political commentator. He writes for numerous international newspapers and online journals as well as hosts Face to Face, an interview segment of Malaysian/regional issues and personalities hosted on Malaysia Today. He also serves as Foreign Correspondent for foreign news organisations.

Nurul Izzah Anwar, 'Puteri Reformasi' and newly elected Member of Parliament for Lembah Pantai. A new face in mainstream Malaysian politics. She humbled her opponent in Lembah Pantai and is lauded as Pakatan Rakyat's voice of the young. Is she a politician to be taken seriously? Face to Face gets the views of this aspiring legislator.

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1.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: A number of Malaysians lament that parliamentary sessions were rather ineffective as far as the Rakyat was concerned. Politicking and heckling was the order of the day. Comment? What was your experience?

Nurul Izzah: Parliament for me was both at once daunting and exciting. The ferocious beginning with little decorum showed certainly shocked many, including myself. But the sessions proceeded well into a forum of critical discourse and at the very least kept the government on its toes. The mere half an hour allocated by RTM does not depict the entire picture. As the hours progressed, issues such as the lack of medical personnel in our public hospitals, the excessive spending on questionable projects, as well as the unbelievably high additional expenditure on top of our allocated budget (unplanned but spent!) last year are unearthed.

Nonetheless, I admit the nature of our parliamentary system is such that substantial debates that go into detail of the issue at hand are not able to take place, since we are restricted to general debates in the absence of a specific committee such as the Public Bill committee in the UK, which provides for a more detailed examination of bills, thus more scrutiny and time for real debates. Most issues raised in the recent session only graces the surface. Still, it's hardly fair to depict the entire proceedings as mere ruckus –bits of it, perhaps, certainly not all.

I must add, however, years of two-thirds control by the BN have taken its toll. Our parliament has always been perceived as a mere rubber stamp –even now, with the BN denied its two-thirds majority, we're still unable to reject, such as the Supplementary Supply Bill, which included funds for Le Tour de' Langkawi, the Champion Youth Cup soccer tournament and the dissolution of SUKOM Bhd.

Nevertheless, with the increased representation of opposition MPs, we hope to level the playing field, and further strengthen the role of parliament as a legislative body in our democracy. This will be a process in progress, one that requires continuous public support, scrutiny, and pressure.

I do believe in the need to continuously televise parliamentary sessions so that the public will be able to aptly judge the behaviour and intellectual capacity of their chosen representative. Public scrutiny will help drive MPs to conduct themselves appropriately.

2.   Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Observers think that voters were generally disenchanted with Abdullah Badawi/Barisan Nasional and that any alternative candidate could have won in the recent general elections, including yourself. What’s your view on this?

Nurul Izzah: The recent electoral results were in actuality, a humbling victory for all of us. I take it to represent the will of the constituents braving the onslaught of unparalleled media bias, BN mega machinery, and electioneering at work to follow through with their agenda for reform and push for real change to take place. Pure and simple, it was the people at work.

Nonetheless, I take full pride in what we do. We came in at a time when the incumbent was at its peak. The years of hardship previous to the 12th General elections certainly tamed our expectations. But we persevered all those years, and made a decision to present the electorate in Lembah Pantai with a choice of an alternative representative for them. We then maintained a focused, structured campaign throughout the 13 days.

It was a tough fight, and I could feel the mood of the people change in the days that went by. There were opportunities accorded for an alternative yes, but I believe a clinch was required before the voting deal was sealed. That clinch must come from the belief someone puts in me. And I plan to honour this belief, by doing my best as their elected representative.

In a three cornered fight such as ours, personality does count. Especially in fielding such a popular, well liked, and media savvy personality such as Datuk Shahrizat Abdul Jalil. One must never underestimate your opponent, and always focus on the issues affecting the Rakyat.

It took courage for any candidate to contest against BN even with knowledge of all the unfair obstacles they would face. And all PR candidates, win or lose, have shown that they are committed to the cause and willing to step up to the plate. I think that shows an important quality in all our candidates and the voters believed in them. At the end of the day, you would not vote for someone whom you believed could not do the job.

3. Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: There are already rumblings on the ground about Pakatan's failure to keep to their incredible election promises. In your instance, Lembah Pantai is a real mix of voter types. Can you really deliver?

Nurul Izzah: Pakatan Rakyat promised democratic, transparent and accountable governance, a new economic agenda promoting vibrant growth, equity and power eradication based on need. I claim all these goals are being diligently pursued, if not yet realised, in the five states being ruled under this credo. To the extent that these goals are deliverable by the Pakatan state governments in power without federal obstruction, they are certainly being seriously pursued.  Thus, there is no faulting real political will that exists within the Pakatan leadership.

Nevertheless, we came in at a time when political awareness is at its peak. And with this inevitably comes very high expectations. It would certainly help a lot if the mass media, including the much-discredited Utusan Malaysia would help in providing fair coverage of Pakatan efforts and responses. But pockets of resistance at the federal level, coupled with a hostile media (Malay medium, especially) are not helping our efforts. Take for example the water issue; the Selangor government has formally written to the federal government to take over all water-related assets in the effort to provide the first 20 cu m of water per household for free. But the federal government might end up fixing the profit margin level -rendering state efforts thus far, meaningless –so in a lot of areas, like it or not, there is the state-federal conundrum. These are challenges that will ultimately strengthen our resolve and capability as governments. This is good we've had enough practice being the opposition. And competing with the federal government brings out the best in everyone.

As to Lembah Pantai, I believe in forging a partnership with the community. My main objective is to replace the culture of political patronage with community based volunteerism. In Lembah Pantai, the problems are manifold. But public safety issues, as well as an unaccountable municipal council cut across race and class. These are shared concerns in an ethnically and socially diverse constituency, which provide the chance to organize initiatives that can be participated by all.

Of course, there are challenges to be overcome. In terms of City Hall related issues, I think all the Pakatan MPs in Kuala Lumpur, numbering 10 out of the 11 in total are trying our best to ensure that municipal services are extended to all constituents, irrespective of whether they live in the poor areas or in affluent suburbs. But instead of having that additional edge of controlling KL, in ballot counts, at least, we fall prey to the Federal Territory Act, which unfortunately renders us mere MPs at the mercy of City Hall and the Ministry of FT.

Such an autonomous and all-powerful body does not answer to anyone. Thus, City Hall response is often unpredictable. But we continue to push, and I choose my battles carefully. We need to facilitate close cooperation in the interest of the public. But of course we cannot compromise on basic principles of right and wrong.

We are now operating our community development centre in Pantai Dalam, and are seriously on the lookout for volunteers. The choice differs from previous predecessors, but is made after serious consideration with all parties concerned. We are working on three main issues at the moment: facilitating transfer of squatters in various places –housing, ensuring people participate in objecting to discrepancies existing in the draft of the KL local plan –environment, and planning a long term program to curb crime in key areas.

4.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: You are the embodiment of a fresh face in Malaysian politics as well as the daughter of Anwar Ibrahim. Thus, how will you as a young parliamentarian make a difference for the young across the board and not just in terms of Keadilan's/Pakatan Rakyat's struggle?


Nurul Izzah: To move the young you have to show that you can make a difference, not by gimmicks or posturing, but sincerity, which is executed through planned and patient endeavours. We have to get the young interested in their political destiny. That is the main objective of my active involvement in politics. It is distressing that the majority of the 4-million plus citizens who were not registered as voters at the time of the last election was in the age group between 21 and 35. This is evidence of an apathy that is not healthy for the workings of a parliamentary democracy. If I can show citizens, male and female, that a young and concerned person who is willing to enter and be bruised in the political arena can still emerge to fight for a better future for all, then more young people will be encouraged to take part in the political process.

5.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Do you agree with the government's announcement to substantially increase the allocation of scholarships to non-bumiputeras?

Nurul Izzah: I support policies that assist the poor and the deserving. I note that the quantum of the overall allocation is higher than before such that bumiputeras do not lose out. This is not a zero sum issue. Deserving non-bumiputeras need help while the level of help to deserving bumis must be maintained, if not increased.

6.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: What's your observation of the government's efforts to contain inflation?

Nurul Izzah: It is not succeeding. The best way to contain inflation is through the practice of transparent governance through combating waste, mismanagement, corruption and cronyism. Too much of nation's wealth has been misallocated and corruptly streamed. This must stop. Additionally, the government seems unprepared with the execution of its own safety nets (cash vouchers, fleet card mechanism, etc) in the face of the petrol hike. This can spell disaster in terms of spiralling inflation.

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7.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Do you think that the government's move to remove the subsidies as announced for diesel, gas and petrol is justified?

Nurul Izzah: Removing subsidies without sweeping away corruption, nepotism and cronyism is like putting the cart before the horse. First things first, the whole concept of subsidies is based on the need to use the nation's raw material wealth to get people on to a standard of living that enables them to become players on a more level playing field. As they ascend the ladder of economic well-being, you gradually reduce the subsidised part of their livelihood in such a way that it does not abruptly diminish their purchasing power.

The way this government has sharply increased petrol and diesel prices at the pump in the last 18 months has directed attention to the way Petronas disburses its huge profits. This is a matter under wraps and this has provoked a great deal of concern that the wealth of the nation is being secreted into channels that show it cannot bear discussion and publicity.

8.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: The 13th general elections to be held will see a great number of young voters coming to the fore. How will you reach out to them as opposed to UMNO's efforts?

Nurul Izzah: It will see a huge number of young people voting provided they actually register to vote. To ensure that they register to vote, a scheme is being devised for registered voters in states in which Pakatan Rakyat is in power whereby the can participate in a programme that would bring good returns. It's a no-participation without registration scheme. It is an attractive one but the catch is you have to register as a voter to take part.

As to reaching out to young voters at the next general election, there is no better way to achieve that except to ensure that young elected representatives from Pakatan have succeeded in their roles and still exude idealism. This will convince the young that a vote for the younger set of reps is a vote for a better  future.

9.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: It appears that you haven't championed women's issues as much as was anticipated. Comment? What advice would you give to ambitious women politicians?

Nurul Izzah: Actually, one of the first things we've done in the first parliamentary session was to form a women's caucus. Having said that, I would like to say that I'm interested in all the issues that affect the citizenry. And women's issues, such as adequate child-care, our archaic labour laws should be mainstream and never compartmentalized as belonging to one particular gender. These are issues that must be championed by everyone.

As a young mother, I can say with certainty that it is extremely challenging to be involved in politics at this level. Politics is very much still a man's world since the rules is made in an arena dominated by men. I urge more women to get involved, as this would very much improve the climate and subsequently ease the process for female involvement. Mothers have first hand experience on child development that ultimately contributes to the type of society that emerges. We cannot have a wholesome approach to nation building if a large sector of this group is not represented.

10.    Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: What's your impression of Ezam's intended re-entry into UMNO?


Nurul Izzah: It is extremely disappointing to see a person who had worked and suffered for the cause of reformasi, and under the hands of an UMNO dominated government to embrace that very institution, which I regard as redundant. We are moving towards the future, one that is defined by principles in the spirit of real multiracial cooperation. I think most of us are deeply involved in strengthening Pakatan Rakyat, as well as cultivating a close spirit of cooperation between young leaders in PAS, DAP and KEADILAN. So, the Ezam issue does not arise. It belongs to a past, which is divorced from our reality today.

11.   Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob:  If you met Abdullah Badawi today, what would you on behalf of the youth of Malaysia say to him?

Nurul Izzah: Actually, I did have an opportunity to meet and have tea with him, along with many other officials during the recent Wesak Day Celebration at the Buddhist Maha Vihara, Brickfields. I would regard the meeting as very cordial, which even included an exchange on grandchildren related issues!

Anyhow, back to business: I think I would urge him to fulfil his promise of implementing reform when he first assumed power in 2004. This means taking difficult decisions, which do not include a harsh cut (40.6 % at that) of subsidies. The increased petrol and diesel prices and the way it was announced, to the shock of everyone, only goes to show that the BN government has not learned its lessons. The Rakyat yearns for transparency, and sincerity. At the very least, a real debate on this issue should have taken place in parliament at the last session.

Please:
-  Disclose Petronas' accounts to the public –a detailed one at that.
-  Restore the previous subsidies on petrol and diesel –at least until the safety net mechanisms are properly put in place! And you could stagger the slash, instead of lumping them up together.
-  Listen to qualified policy makers instead of political make-maybe not makers
-  More importantly, do seriously consider a two-party system, which will only benefit the people? PR's focus at ALL times.

12.   Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Would you like to send a message to the Rakyat?

Nurul Izzah: Keep the faith in Pakatan. We are not knights in shining armour. We are fallible people striving to match deed to promises in a journey of a thousand miles in which every day we take single steps towards a new dawn for Malaysia and a new deal for its citizens.

Face to Face interviews are conducted by way of e-mail unless otherwise stated.

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written by indianputra, June 11, 2008 10:41:51
I bet there will be more flirting in here than discussing points raised by her
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written by kamal, June 11, 2008 10:46:13
We need a strong and capable leader like her.

PR should not waste time talking. Use every effort to TOPPLE present BN government. Only then we can prove oneself.

Read my blog KAMAL-TALKS http://kamal-talksmalaysia.blogspot.com
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written by Rashid, June 11, 2008 11:03:18
Like Indianputra said, I hope no body will be get involved in her "too much" beauty and forget to comment on the wonderful answers she provided. I can argue she is the best so far! Keep up young and gracious lady.

That said, they say a man is charged by his family. With Nurul Izzah and Dr Azizah near Anwar Ibrahim, I think we can go with Anwar. A man is his family and Dr Azizah and her children represent the ideal Malaysia. Our prayers are with you.
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written by pkrgom, June 11, 2008 11:08:33
Well done my dear Nurul Izzah. Words are the greatest possessions man has, they say. I'm entertained by the answers you have availed and your focus. Your courage and fatigue (alongside that of our dearest the gracious Dr Azizah) represent the spirit of the nation. Try your best and then we will judge you by that. We don't expect 100% success, Prophets couldn't achieve that, but try your best, that's all and we will reward you with another BIG chance, (insha' Allah).
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written by cheemengwong, June 11, 2008 11:15:01
Do not underestimate the young!

They are idealistic and this is what the veterans are short of! New standards are birth from ideal thinking and can be refreshing....eg.

Old veteran politicians from BN always thinks that they need a lot of money to sogok here and there....

Idealistic politicians like Nurul belives in clean and efficient government and they go and do it. Praise God!

We need to believe in the next generation of young ones, otherwise there will be no future!
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written by PAKRAK, June 11, 2008 11:22:56
I am not being biased. For a newcomer, I am very impressed to see a young and intelligent Parliamentarian who speaks so gracefully and eloquently. Keep it up.
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written by delCapo, June 11, 2008 11:39:12
Meet the future of Malaysia Politics... the first female PM, maybe?
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written by Mr Smith, June 11, 2008 11:53:06
I have tremendous admiration for Anwar's wife and children. I shared their pain when he was so cruelly demonised and unjustly incarcerated. This family went through hell but rose up gloriously from the ashes.
God has a way of vindicating the oppressed.
(Note: I hated Anwar like hell when he was in UMNO. Now he deserves a second chance to redeem himself. )
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written by Kerajaan Rakyat, June 11, 2008 12:24:56
Salam Nurul Izzah,

You dont need to meet Abdullah Badawi,the Idiot just to urge him to fulfil his promise of implementing reform. If just for that, you'r wasting your time and our time too.

Pls just leave Dollah be within his circle of donkeys with thier monkey business. They'r just as good as bustard!!.

Now YB Puan Nurul Izzah what you need to do is, pls go and meet your dad, son of Ibrahim, and get him to toppel the BN while the soup is still hot.

Excuse my language and Salam takzim.

http://kerajaanrakyat.blogspot.com/


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written by joeawk, June 11, 2008 12:45:50
So far so good,keep,it up, young lady. The youngs must participate and genuine participation means you must register to vote.

Just go get yourself registered. do NOT, do NOT procrastinate. Just do it, do it now.
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written by libau, June 11, 2008 14:06:47
The Leader in The Making...
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written by LACOBRA, June 11, 2008 14:08:23
Make it a mandatory law that anyone who reaches age 21 years to register to be a voter. The ID department should forward details to the Election Authorities. For those who have already attained that age and above but are unregistered, they have to register within a grace of 6 mths. The Election Authorities are idling and should be on this recruitment exercise.
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written by MsLim, June 11, 2008 15:04:33
To me, Anwar in UMNO was quite a racist maybe could not blame him as he too had to play the UMNO game. We can forgive him. Am sure he has turn into a new leaf. Keep it up Anwar and family. We love you
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written by MsLim, June 11, 2008 15:04:33
To me, Anwar in UMNO was quite a racist maybe could not blame him as he too had to play the UMNO game. We can forgive him. Am sure he has turn into a new leaf. Keep it up Anwar and family. We love you
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written by nasilemak, June 11, 2008 15:52:55
Nurul - You are young, wise & beautiful so be careful of the "curse" of marrying the wrong man.

World History has shown women leaders do marry the wrong man (Benazir Bhutto comes to mind)

Recent Malaysian History has also shown that even daughters of high ranking officials are not exempt from this "curse"!

And btw don't be shocked at how MPs in Parliament behave.

If you look around you, you can see how well educated & professional some of our MPs are. So be prepared for charges of bocorism coming your way!

But you just keep doing what your heart and soul guides you to do Nurul.

I truly believe that the wisdom from a hair on your head is worth more than the sum of wisdom from many MPs we have in Parliament today
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written by ibabonma, June 11, 2008 16:15:14
PM materials, without doubt.
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written by PHUA KL, June 11, 2008 16:29:49
The PR needs to learn from Islamist groups in
Turkey (the AK Party) and Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood)
i.e. how they deliver social services
to people in slum areas.

Such activities will not only help poor people but also get their
strong and loyal political support.
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written by Ben Nordin, June 11, 2008 16:49:36
Her responses were heart felt, intelligent and articulate.
Makes you wonder how the heck are we still having BN as the government and Pak Lah as the PM???
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written by Vidya Young, June 11, 2008 17:15:54
A highly intelligent and articulate response. Nurul is definitely a cut above the rest. One cannot say so much so well, if there is little or no committment or conviction. Very much a "father's daughter".
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written by Jan, June 11, 2008 17:39:04
Nurul looks neither Malay nor Chinese. Truly the face of the future, the face of Bangsa Malaysia.
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written by indianputra, June 12, 2008 11:10:38
written by indianputra, June 11, 2008 | 10:41:51

I bet there will be more flirting in here than discussing points raised by her
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Well, it helped to slow down the flirt in here.. Thanks.
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written by Rashid, June 13, 2008 12:14:02


Very telling picture.
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written by SocratesI, June 13, 2008 17:26:32

Hey, Indianputra ! Quit the flirting slant in here, man ! Have some respect for her maturity and brains ... much more in touch with the RAKYAT than the Bodohwi ever will, or can, be !!

I have to heartily congratulate Anwar's family of having come face to face with such adversity and political prosecution and and stayed close together supporting each and every family member and bouncing back from the depths of despair to the heights of today's accomplishments, as a family on the personal level, and as a political force to be reckoned with !!

I know I shouldn't be gushing with admiration, but this is a family model that many families should be able to identify with when they face bad times. The lesson here is to come together and face adversity together as a family. United we stand, divided we fall.

Let us also rally behind Pakatan RAKYAT and UNITE, and force out the 50 year old LANUN that is the Barisan Najis to give our RAKYAT respite against the BN's massive corruption and "Suffer the people, while I feast" mentality !

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written by CJ7, June 19, 2008 13:16:24
Ramai yang tidak tahu tentang scam Multimedia Supercorridor yamg tidak mendatangkan sebarang manafaat kepada rakyat tetapi $$$ masuk pocket ke pihak yang mencadang dan kuncu kuncu mereka. Apa manaafaat sykat bodoh menjadi MSC status jikalay dipaksa pindah ke kawasan MSC yang mahal dalam masa 6 bulan. Siapa yang untung???

Tapi oleh kerana Rakyat tak rasa impak ini, scam ini berterusan, tapi jaga-jaga, kebanyakkan wang rakyat dihabiskan di sudut ini.....MEGAPROJEK KAN???
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written by darrelwan, June 19, 2008 21:00:42
she's hot
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written by Rainbowseahorse, June 20, 2008 16:59:47
Nurul, you have many good attributes on your side, including youth! Please don't fall for the "indestructible" mentality of youth, yah! And listen more to your mother as she seem a matured and wise lady..and extremely strong too! Sometimes, when things & situation don’t seem or feel right, listen to your head/brain. Feelings from our hearts is not always right as our heart desires too many things.

Good luck in your life, girl, and Allah be with you always. Pray more for guidance as it never fails!
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written by Areyaar, June 24, 2008 04:05:24
It is interesting to note that Nurul has glowingly referred to herself as "a young and concerned person who is willing to enter and be bruised in the political arena can still emerge to fight for a better future for all". Brave words indeed, but then words come cheap. Real bravado, on the other hand, is to display courage under fire. That is yet to be seen. Is Nurul really there for the people? That too remains to be seen.

She claims that she is "planning a long term program to curb crime in key areas."

Aren't there a lot of crimes in the Bangsar area? Especially involving gangster Mat Rempits? Wasn't it in Bangsar that recently a few Indian girls got attacked and robbed in a petrol pump by a gang of these sub-humans?

So has Nurul come out with any brave words concerning that henious attack? And it will also be interesting to see what she has to say about the Mat Rempit problem. As it is, it appears to be getting worse day by day as these gangs of thugs attack anywhere and anytime.

What worries the mind is that because there does not seem to be any counter-measures being taken by the police to put a serious halt to the Mat Rempit crimes, people might take to carrying weapons with them to protect themselves. It is worrying to think that the laws of the wild west might become the order of the day.

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written by purpleshoppe, June 25, 2008 15:34:57
Wow, I am impressed!

A wealth of wisdom and a depth of humility.

She won my vote.
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written by Areyaar, June 25, 2008 16:06:14
The speech - oops, sorry, the interview - makes Nurul sound way too true to be true. Infact, it reads like the work of a professional speech maker who has gone to extreme lengths to make Nurul sound highly professional, highly eloquent and a super-duper master of language. It just does not make her sound real or believable.

If she really wants to impress people for the long run and not just for the duration of an interview here and there, she needs to show what she can do in terms of visible, tangible work. All talk and no action is the prerogative and reason-for-being of our BN bully bodoh boys. Is Nurul going to prove that PR and PKR do more than just talk? Let's see.
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