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Thursday, 15 May 2008 23:55

"Dasar yang memaksa budak-budak miskin belajar bahasa Inggeris sambil belajar matematik dan sains adalah ibarat memaksa budak-budak miskin itu belajar berenang sambil memanjat pokok kepala."

By Ainon Mohd.

 

Cara dan pedagogi mengajarkan bahasa Inggeris adalah amat berlainan daripada cara dan pedagogi mengajarkan logik matematik.

Ia juga amat berbeza dengan pedagogi mengajarkan maklumat sains dan mengajarkan kemahiran berfikir saintifik.

Orang politik di Kementerian Pelajaran nampaknya sudah sedar perkara asas ini. Angin kencang sedang bertiup mengatakan dasar bahasa penghantar  itu akan dibetulkan semula.

Pada saat ini para penerbit buku-buku teks sekolah sedang bersiap sedia, menunggu sahaja, bila-bila masa jikalau kerajaan tiba-tiba membuat pengumuman Bahasa Melayu akan dikembalikan menjadi bahasa pengantar mata pelajaran matematik dan sains di sekolah.

Masing-masing sudah mula mendapatkan penulis-penulis buku teks mereka supaya mula menyediakan manuskrip Bahasa Melayunya.

Sebagaimana yang dijangka, yang paling kuat menentang nanti adalah golongan berpendidikan Inggeris yang tinggal di bandar-bandar besar, tanpa mengira kaum. Baca apa mereka kata di sini.

Golongan kaya yang tinggal di bandar-bandar, baik mereka itu Cina, baik India, baik Melayu, Iban dan Kadazan, mereka mahukan bahasa Inggeris.

Golongan kaya adalah golongan yang terputus hubungan daripada golongan miskin dalam bandar, dan dengan penduduk di luar bandar.

Cina-cina kaya di bandar tidak peduli apa yang dialami oleh Cina-cina miskin di pekan-pekan kecil. India kaya di bandar tidak peduli apa yang berlaku dalam estet-estet. Begitu juga Melayu, Iban dan Kadazan kaya yang tinggal di bandar.

Golongan kaya hanya memikirkan diri mereka sahaja.

Golongan kaya adalah golongan bermentaliti kolonial.

Golongan kaya masih tidak sedar bahawa bahasa Inggeris telah, dan masih terus gagal memandaikan golongan miskin dalam bandar dan penduduk luar bandar di India, di Pakistan, di Bangladesh, di Sri Lanka, dan di seluruh benua Afrika, serta di Myanmar dan di Filipina. 

Golongan kaya tidak sedar bahawa semua negara terkaya di dunia menggunakan bahasa masing-masing bagi mengajarkan sains dan matematik kepada kanak-kanak mereka.

Golongan kaya masih tidak sedar bukan sahaja bahasa Inggeris, malah bahasa-bahasa Sepanyol, Peranchis, German, Rusia, China, malah bahasa Arab juga, telah gagal memandaikan golongan miskin dan penduduk luar bandar, di mana-mana sahaja bahasa-bahasa kolonial itu dipaksakan ke atas bangsa-bangsa yang mereka jajah. 

Golongan kaya yang menyokong bahasa Inggeris itu tidak membaca peta taburan kemiskinan di dunia, oleh itu mereka tidak tahu kaitan antara kemiskinan dan penggunaan bahasa kolonial dalam sistem pendidikan di negara-negara miskin itu.

Pedagogi pengajaran bahasa teramat berbeza daripada pedagogi pengajaran sains dan matematik.

Tidak ada sesiapa yang waras daya inteleknya yang menentang pengajaran dan pembelajaran bahasa-bahasa asing, bukan hanya bahasa Inggeris.

Malaysia mesti mengajarkan bahasa-bahasa asing itu dengan menggunakan strategi betul, sebab manfaatnya amat banyak. Tubuhkan universiti bahasa-bahasa asing (university of foreign languages seperti di China, Korea dan Jepun). 

Sekolah-sekolah Malaysia hendaklah menawarkan subjek mata pelajaran bahasa-bahasa asing yang penting di dunia, bukan hanya bahasa Inggeris.

Kita mesti menawarkan subjek bahasa Mandarin di semua sekolah di negara ini sebab bahasa Mandarin akan, dan sedang, menjadi bahasa ekonomi dunia yang paling penting. 

 

Ainon Mohd
Presiden,
Universiti Terbuka PTS

 

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written by Littlebird, May 16, 2008 00:08:30
Tukarlah apa apa bahasa. Yang pandai dan rajin boleh adapt. Tapi biarlah konsisten sikit. Sudah setahun anak anak saya yang berumur 5 dididik dalam bahasa Ingeris sebagai persedian persedian disekolah tapi sekarang dalam masa 6 bulan kena train balik.

We are interested in knowledge not race, ego or shortcut. What's wrong with English and mind you I am as rich as a person who can only own a proton. This is what we call education becomes political tool.
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written by Watcheyes1, May 16, 2008 00:14:18
Hello Ainon Mohd apa kena-mengena orang kaya dengan Bahasa Inggeris dan kemiskinan??? Abih tu, kalau ajar dalam bahasa Mandarin, orang miskin boleh jadi kaya??

"Golongan kaya tidak sedar bahawa semua negara terkaya di dunia menggunakan bahasa masing-masing bagi mengajarkan sains dan matematik kepada kanak-kanak mereka."

"Kita mesti menawarkan subjek bahasa Mandarin di semua sekolah di negara ini sebab bahasa Mandarin akan, dan sedang, menjadi bahasa ekonomi dunia yang paling penting."

Kejab cakap guna bahasa sendiri, kejab cakap guna bahasa asing. What are you trying to say man??? Apa dah!!


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written by chanatak, May 16, 2008 00:16:50
Takpa la! Biarla orang Melayu tetap belajar Bahasa melayu saja la. Mereka tak perlukan bahasa lain. Lagi bagi orang Melayu, apakah nilai bahasa sendiri. Pada hal menteri menteri, artis artis dan tokoh tokoh lain sedang melacurkan bahasa ini. Melacurkan? Bagaimana? Dengarlah cakap cakap cara glamor mereka "Siapa you? I tidak kenal you la?" Bukan semata mata nya tidak ada perkataan sendiri. Tapi kalau kata "saya", "aku" itu tak glamor. Bahasa Melayu tak glamor. "I" itu lebih glamor. "Samsuddin" itu tidak glamor. "Sam lagi glamor"

Untuk orang melayu, apa bahasa pun tidak penting lagi walau mereka mau paksa orang lain hormat bahasa ini. Mereka lebih suka melacurkan bahasa sendiri.
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written by fireduck, May 16, 2008 00:21:43
With minds like Ainon, any wonder why Malaysia is sliding further down the drain? But it's ok. Enterprising folks will find this argument (and if it is ever adopted) useful. They will get to set up schools and tuition centres just to teach pre-Uni students all the English equivalents of the Math and Sciences, in addition to English as a Second Language (ESL). Can make money mah.

Can you imagine when our students go overseas to continue their tertiary studies, and they have to keep checking out their English - BM dictionary? Oh well.
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written by Thesinner, May 16, 2008 00:22:41
Do you mean to say pedagogy? I never knew there is a malay word Pedagogi exsists What about other words such as metametik, kolonial,subjek and a few more that you have mentioned? Pelik lah kadang kadang orang yang seperti Ainon Mohd ni...kalau nak sangat guna bahasa Melayu kenapa UMNO tak di ubah jadi aberivasi (abbr.) melayu? Boleh ke saya guna perkataan abbreviation tu dengan ejaan abrevasi??
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written by mrbean, May 16, 2008 00:23:51
this is such a straightforward issue.. who speaks malay in the world ? malaysians and indonesians.. how many people speak English and Mandarin in the world ? > 50% of the world's population?
starting them young with english and teaching maths and science in english is the right way forward if we want to excel as a country.. unfortunately, the government is not interested in this. it doesn't matter what happens, the lazy group of people will stay lazy and expect crutches and help from the government, the hungy ones will strive to excel, adapt and succeed regardless of the challenges ahead of them.. this is the main difference.. could be in the genes but who cares.. this has been proven time and again... yes.. go ahead and continue with your indolence... rot away ...

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written by mrbean, May 16, 2008 00:25:27
just look at Singapore with their policy of mandarin and english and compare where they are now with us...
shame on us.. bodoh...
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written by Badaksumbu, May 16, 2008 00:26:09
Entah pa dia cakap?! kamu mau jadi palui hal kamu la tu-tell you won't go far
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written by cklife, May 16, 2008 00:26:47
Golongan yang miskin, kalo takde gengaman dalam bahaso inggeris, mano dapat gi negeri luar buat bisnes.
Pikir tu.. Pikir tu..
Pijak taik sendiri tu.
Walaubagaimanapun, bahasa melayu akan diajar dalam asasnya sebagai matapelajaran bahasa. Di samping itu, Sejarah Malaysia juga patut diajar dalam BM.

Matematik dan Sains; aku tentang habis-habisan kalo nak diajar dalam BM. Bayangan bila ko gi Universiti.

eg: Perkataan 'Takal' ... kalo belajar dalam BM. Bila kat belajar physics kat Kolej.. aku pikir "Apa tu PULLEY???"

Perkataan 'Halaju'... Velocity???

'Kelalang'.... Mana satu???? Test TUBE???

'Pengamiran'... takde lojik dalam perkataan tu..

har...


Motherboard tu panggil apa??? 'Papan Mak'????

Joystick??? Batang Gembira????

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written by James Loh, May 16, 2008 00:36:52
In China or Korea, they've used their langauge to teach science and mathematic. How could they do it? Is it because of the quality of their education system? In Singapore, the government selected the best students to be trained as teacher. Regardless of the type of language we use, as long as the education system is not improved our students in "kampung" or "bandar" will definitely suffer. Quality of the education system is the problem.

Should we use Bahasa Malaysia or Bahasa Melayu for Science and mathematic? We'll have to analyze it logically. Should we waste our time to translate the books? If we focus on using English we can free up the money for translating the books. With the money, we can train the teacher or increase the teacher's wages. The higher wages will definitely attract higher quality teacher.
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written by Awaken64, May 16, 2008 00:40:37
"Dasar yang memaksa budak-budak miskin belajar bahasa Inggeris sambil belajar matematik dan sains adalah ibarat memaksa budak-budak miskin itu belajar berenang sambil memanjat pokok kepala."

Dear Ainon Mohd - kalau Bahasa Melayu ada istilah yang ori- [ ini pun ciplak] this issue of changing the medium will never occur. Because Bahasa melayu itself is a rojak consisting of Sanskrit, Tamil, Chinese, Arabic and even English how to dwell on your comment.

The fact that the word pedagogi itself is Greek/Latin - lagi cunt fused.....

Now kalau ada usaha not a problem see how the Bangla or the Nepali pick up Malay or the Indon pick up Chinese Cantonese or Mandrin.... U masuk Petaling Streetla jangan asyik shopping kat Bukit Bintang KLCC u will know what I mean if you are inteligent.

These foreigners can learn because they want to learn if you don't want to learn the excuses come with such conviction. Exactly like what you are doing..... stop it and go study Mandarin before you are left behind by Singapore
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written by axeltung, May 16, 2008 00:48:27
hello tuan!!!kami budak miskin pun tau speak English well!! Do you know how many malay students from local universities speak lousy english!!(sorry not all ah..some of them very good in english) English is very normal in every big or small companies even the world...can you imagine, your "brilliant" staffs communicate with oversea company with broken english or "Bahasa"-english? Can't even write, read a proper english document!! Can u imagine, 10 yrs later our Malaysian Foreign Minister, Trade Minister only can speak bahasa during the World Leader Congress..like Suharto!!(sorry..just quote him as example..doesn't mean didn't respect him)Wake up!!!Malaysian government!!!Tun Mahathir was emphasized on Economic Globalization.. but you still dream of Zaman Kesultanan Melaka!!
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written by johanssm, May 16, 2008 00:49:59
Our nearest neighbour Singapore managed to produce high quality student .
If they can do it , why we can't.

Diskusi edukasi tentang matematik dan sains dalam bahasa inglis oleh para member politik adalah satu setupiditi kepada identiti komuniti melayu yang mahu imuniti dengan cara tidak relevan dan konkrit .
macam mana komuniti untuk advansi kalau subject yang urgensi ini di lekturasi dalam linguasi belachan.
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written by Fernz, May 16, 2008 00:52:27
Mathematics is a good way to pick up the English language or any language for that matter. Besides the math concept themselves, the short problems in Paper 2 are a great way to build up the basic vocabulary and comprehension skills. The same words are used over and over again.

Science in English is more of a struggle for those who are not that good in the language. On the plus side, the concepts are fixed, the experiments are fixed and like in math, the same words are used over and over again.

I would say that learning the English language through the English language as a subject is much more of a challenge compared with learning English through math and science. If students are willing to accept the English language as a subject, they should be much more willing to accept math and science in the English language because the latter two subjects are much easier. For the same reason, English literature is a much easier subject compared with the English language. Again, it's because the story is fixed, the questions are fixed and the answers are fixed. It's not like the English language where they could ask you anything.

Those who make statements about the need to revert to Bahasa Malaysia for the teaching of math and science, are not really that qualified to talk on the subject. This is evident from the arguments that they put forth.

One of the reasons for weakness in the English language is that many students are weak in their own mother tongue as well. For example, if a Malay student is weak in Bahasa Malaysia, he will be even weaker in the English language. There’s no way a student can score A in Bahasa Malaysia and fail in the English language.

Once you are good in a certain language, you CAN be good in any language and vice versa. All languages are the same.

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written by lennonist, May 16, 2008 00:58:53
It's called PROGRESS. Deal with it.

Downloading sounds better than muat turun anyways.

If Malaysians are to be competitive in the global arena we have to face the facts that Bahasa Malaysia has absolutely no position nor future in business dealings. In fact, Mandarin is fast replacing English as an important business language and if you racist egocentric xenophobic narrow minded bigots can see past your small dicks, you will encourage the use of English AND Mandarin as well.

I'm sorry if I hurt by saying the truth which EVERYONE knows already.

Actually, I'm more embarrassed that this so called Presiden (isn't this word from ENGLISH?) is too stupid to recognize this fact. I mean, come on, you're representing a university and you're discouraging the adoption of a GLOBAL AND UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE?

Remember, PRESIDEN itu asalnya perkataan INGGERIS. Or is that colonialism as well?

Stupid numbnut.
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written by patlu, May 16, 2008 01:05:40
Towards a Pragmatic Language Policy

For effective acquisition and transmission of knowledge, we advocate review based on language best suited in each specific field. If English serves the teachers and students best in the fields of science, mathematics, engineering, medicine, information technology, economics and business, let’s make it the medium of instruction. For other fields, we should allow for choice in the medium of instruction, respecting the students’ other language skills.

The fact of the matter is, basic proficiency of various languages only get us past the door. It is not an adequate tool to mine the mountains of knowledge or equip us to set sail onto new geographical and intellectual frontiers.

Face this reality squarely – Through our education system in the last two decades, we have created one whole generation of people who are extremely weak in their overall language skills.



The ability to think, the depth and breadth of thinking, calls for a certain level of language mastery. If there isn’t an adequate vocabulary, in whatever language the thinker chooses, he or she simply can’t articulate his or her thoughts, explore the interconnection of ideas, participate in dialogues or persuade others of one’s ideas. Period. Put all these in the context of Malaysians going global and trying to find a place in the new economy!

- Pahlawan Volunteers

Full story, http://www.pahlawan.com.my/voice/language.shtml
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written by mystally, May 16, 2008 01:06:00
Ajar sains dalam bahasa US sebab teknologi US paling tinggi.
Ajar matematik dalam bahasa Arab sebab (isi sendiri).
Ajar sejarah dalam bahasa melayu sebab bm sudah jadi sejarah.
Ajar geografi dalam bahasa cina sbb populasi dan tanah cina paling besar.
Tidak rugi belajar lebih bahasa.
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written by Arubin, May 16, 2008 01:38:07
Presiden Universiti Terbuka yang mempunyai minda yang tertutup...
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written by Chuan, May 16, 2008 02:09:58
I strongly disagree with the author.

With the world opening up and Internet becoming a very important communication medium, a good command in English will give you a very important edge. I am not saying that BM is not important, but I am asking you to open your eyes and be in touch with the progress of the world.

For your consideration, there's really nothing wrong with either using BM, English, Chinese, Tamil to teach all the subjects at the moment. The choice should be obvious actually, the MOE should use the most commonly used language of the world to stay competitive. You can always make BM the National Language. No problem with that, but by having the nation educated with the world's most competitive languages is the only way to fast forward the nation. This I feel is the best in the nation's interest. Learning English or any other languages doesn't make you less patriotic.

And of course, the medium used should not be an issue in our country. Our entire education system is at stake. If there's no proper restructuring to our flawed system, no matter what language we use to teach, we will not get anywhere...

Oh yeah...just for the author's information, there are many poor countries who take English very seriously, because they know it's a tool for survival. Hence, your statement where you relate wealth status with the choice of language doens't make much sense.
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written by AsamLaksa, May 16, 2008 02:46:18
Ainon, orang kaya = pro-Inggeris, orang miskin = pro-BM??? Sejak bila jadi isu. Isu bahasa bukan sebab kaya atau miskin. Ia isu apakah bahasa paling effektif untuk menyampaikan maklumat kepada semua lapisan masyarakat. Itulah keperluan and kegunaan bahasa kebangsaan sebagai bahasa perantaraan terunggul. Dalam konteks Malaysia, BM adalah bahasa kebangsaan dan seharusnya digunakan untuk semua mata pelajaran yang tidak berkaitan dengan bahasa. Saya faham sentimen kau tapi hujah kamu tak berasaskan apa-apa logik ataupun fakta.

Maths and science in English help improve English? Are you serious??? The language standard required for science and maths is very very low. So yes they can use the correct terminologies but to say it will improve their language proficiency is very far fetched just like saying using BM in these subjects help improve their BM proficiency. If you want better English language proficiency, then teach better English language syllabus. Don't use science and maths to fix the failure of the English syllabus. It's s sorry excuse to improve English proficiency by teaching them in science and maths without improving the English syllabus.

Forcing them to use English in science and maths may help as part of an instrument for practising the use of it but again, the standard required is very low and may lead to worsening of the language skill as these subjects are not meant to teach English. As long as you have a poor English language syllabus whatever other subject you force English on will not help the problem.

Bottom line... you want better English proficiency in Malaysia, pay more attention to the English language syllabus!!!



Mrbean, did it ever occur to you that Spore had an effective English language syllabus to begin with that's why they can effectively teach science and maths in Egnlish? Not only science and maths but every other subject they want to teach in English can work because they build up on the foundation of the language. It's not what language you use that makes the kids good at science or maths but how well you teach the language that allows them to explore whatever concept they want be it BM, English, Mandarin, Japanese, Bahasa Indonesia, etc..



Fernz, sure maths and science may be a good way to pick up the language. Heck, I think entertainment in English like watching movies, cartoons, sitcoms, listen to music, read comics, read books, etc. are even better to pick up the language what more a school subject. But if you want to develop proficiency, then they all fail. (Of course there are English language educational programmes but this is not another issue.) They are tools to help exposure and to allow the students to practice their language knowledge and that's about all they can do. Do you expect science and maths teachers to correct grammar and sentence construction or even expand vocabulory? It won't. Leave the language proficiency to the specific language subject, so fix the English syllabus. Just obtaining cukup makan skills from using it in science and maths is not something you should aim for.

Learning English in the English subject is of course a challenge because it's one of the tougher language to learn in terms of grammar, construction, pronunciation, etc.. Even whose with English as their mother tongue find them difficult and English as second language users still laugh at them. George Bush is one fine example with his Bushism. (In fact, it's easier to pick up BM with less difficult grammar and construct rules.) English literature easy? I dunno how many English Lit. major you want to offend. The stories may be fixed argument only works if you study the subject in a rote manner which is not how you should study or teach English Lit..

Similarly science and maths should not be taught in a rote manner as you will only get students who are good in memorising formulas and answering direct questions but bad in applying them in a less well-defined environment such as application in problem type questions.



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written by AsamLaksa, May 16, 2008 02:47:22
cont.



I agree with Patlu, choose the most pragmatic language. My contention here then would be how do you decide what is pragmatic? My stand is that what is most pragmatic is what would be best suited to communicate with all level of Malaysian society, not a global society. Why not global? Because global society is too large to fall under the pragmatic notion. Remember this is within the context of a national education system, not a global education system.

However you may argue that it's a globalised world and that borders are disappearing. Sure, but unless you live completely within this so-called globalised environment all the time then it's fine... but please do not forget your everyday activities in your local environment. Even multinational companies will tell you that they aim global but still shape their local operation policies based on specific local markets.

So, what is pragmatic? Teaching of English is pragmatic, so go ahead with it. Teach them well in English so that they can be 'globalised' but don't neglect local needs. However, is teaching of science and maths in English pragmatic?



Lastly, I oppose the switch of the medium of teaching from BM to English but now when you want to change it back to BM, I have strong reservations. I believe they've already made a mistake but switching it back may not necessarily correct the mistake or make things better. I have yet to see any results to say one way or the other is better as it's been a few years now. Changing back for the sake of changing back is pointless. I urge the Education Ministry to have a better review and don't fall for blind sentiments or politicking to decide what would be best for national education. As much as I urge others not to mess with science and maths in promoting a particular language, I also place the same call onto the ministry.


P.S. for more points I have not covered here, I am too lazy to repeat them and they can be found on other similar articles in MT such as in:
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/7388/1/
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written by 4country, May 16, 2008 03:11:07
Ainon Mohd
Presiden, Universiti Terbuka PTS

Pada pendapat saya, kalau seorang penulis tidak berfikiran rasional, hasil tulisannya hanya sekadar "sembang kosong".

Kalau golongan kaya dipersalahkan, bagaimana pula dengan golongan di sebaliknya?

"Golongan kaya adalah golongan yang terputus hubungan daripada golongan miskin dalam bandar, dan dengan penduduk di luar bandar"
Sebagai presiden, kamu tahu tak apa yang kamu katakan?
Kata-kata sebegini boleh dikatagorikan "BODOH" dan "OTAK TAK WARAS"!
Kamu yang memutuskan hubungan golongan kaya dan miskin, gelagat kamu sungguh menjijikkan, ini adalah 100% seperti kata-kata BN.

Persoalan Kamu harus dijawab oleh Hisapputing dan bukan rakyat.Dia ialah punca kepada sistem pendidikan dan pengajaran!
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written by SammyC, May 16, 2008 04:50:00
guys!!if you comment in english, the presiden U terbuka wont understand. he is also struggling with the language, and he thinks that malaysia should not struggle. we made a mistake 30 years ago by reverting to BM as a teaching medium, and these ultras are making the same mistake again.the problem, is that these teachers are not qualified to teach in english, esp the presiden. Our standard of teachers in the last 10 years are something to be worried about. they lack confidence, lack commitment, lack seriousness to be in the teaching profession. Well, if they drag our young souls back to the 19th century, i will personally make sure my kids continue with private education. What a dissapointment. But you cannot help it if our education authorities arent committed and treat education as a playtoy.
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written by Food Thought, May 16, 2008 04:55:54
I agree with all the readers. Our MoE is basically useless and treats us like an experiment. They should just stick to one policy and practice it. Yang ni tak, sekejap tu, sekejap ni. Memang takade kualiti langsung. It's like a domino effects, kualiti Uni jatuh produces graduan tak berkualiti, lepas tu tak dapat kerja jadi penganggur, ekonomi Malaysia pun jatuh! Think about it, tak kira bahasa apa yang diguna, yang penting tukar OTAK dulu. JANGAN HARAP SUBSIDI & HAND-OUT!!
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written by bn haramjadah, May 16, 2008 05:04:10
äinon mohd president of the university of dropouts get out from under you katak di bawah tempurung mentality, another apologist for a bunch of loosers jaguh kampungs.

I speak 8 international languages, thanks to our malaysian culture and 70's education system. I can read another 4 whlist understanding them but not very fluent in them, thats the malaysian education system I graduated from, which opened my mind and also made facing challenges quite exciting. but when you have those morons who due to political reasons starting to mess up our education system, this is the end product, a bunch of dungus whose idea of reading would be the gila gila and lat not that lat bad mind you but their thinking becomes so limited. well if you want to remain as morons and backwards, so be it. but leave our education system alone,
"Dasar yang memaksa budak-budak miskin belajar bahasa Inggeris sambil belajar matematik dan sains adalah ibarat memaksa budak-budak miskin itu belajar berenang sambil memanjat pokok kepala." what has miskin got to do with your brains, what a dungu another graduate of ketuanan melayu mara or utm graduate. Another professorri mud-ya at work
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written by rahzabob, May 16, 2008 05:22:06
Do not point English is not worthwhile learning. It is a medium that is widely used in the business world. If you want our kids to excel, let them learn but what's wrong here is the mentality of people and the current education system itself plus of course, the teachers. The concept of learning now is just homework, exam, homework, exam, homework without much focus on understanding the language. By letting the kids to understand and not pressured for exams through activities and discussions, the kids are able to grasp the language.

I remembered during our pre-diploma years, there was 3 subjects, Islamic Studies, Typing and English. And all the results does not reflect on the CGPA. There I see Kampung Girls and Boys by end of the semester be able to converse in English plus their writing skills improved. The focus was understanding the language and making everyone to be able to converse comfortably among peers in a foreign language, English that is. So, why can't this be applied. Make the kids understand the language first lah.

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written by hanzz, May 16, 2008 06:11:42
budak miskin datangnyer dari keluarga miskin...keluarga miskin biasanya tidak fasih dalam bahasa inggeris. jadi, amatlah sukar bagi mereka sendiri untuk mengajar sendiri anak mereka sendiri...apa nak buat?...upah tutor?... hantar tusyen?...banyak duit hang! korang yang bising2 ni nak bagi ker?....ingatlah...kalau fikir sendiri, memang senang...kene fikir pasal orang lain...kalau kita senang, ingatlah ada yang lagi senang dan kalau kita susah, ingatlah ada yang lagi susah...vice versa. sepertimana yang diperkatakan artikel di atas...kita semua patut ada OPTION untuk belajar bahasa2 lain selain inggeris dan malaysia. walau apa pun berlaku....bahasa utama ialah DUIT...semua orang paham kalau cakap bahasa DUIT...semua benda kalau takda DUIT...mesti tak jalan, samalah dengan IDEA nak tuka atau nak mengekalkan bahasa inggeris sebagai bahasa sains & matematik.
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written by power2u, May 16, 2008 06:22:18
Please don't look down on Malay kampung folks n say they can't learn Maths n Sains in English.This is discrimination n SEDITIOUS.Can we charge these idiots under SEDITION ACT??
If you deny these poor kampung folks the right to learn English for Maths n Sains it means you are NOT giving them level playing field.
MUST sack Kerismuddin if he decide to scrap Sains n Maths in English
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written by hanzz, May 16, 2008 06:29:53
denial is not the issue....thats why we should have OPTIONS
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written by Hope4all, May 16, 2008 07:00:00
Budak-budak miskin ataupun kaya tak ada masalah dengan bahasa penghantar Inggeris dalam Sains dan Matematik.

Sebenarnya, Kementerian Pelajaran kita tak mampu latih cikgu-cikgu ni saja.. Kalau cikgu tak tahu guna bahasa penghantar Inggeris, apatah lagi dengan murid-muridnya, kaya atau miskin?
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written by Catharsis, May 16, 2008 07:15:31
WHEN YOU HAVE PEA BRAINED INDIVIDUALS AS POLICIES MAKERS...THIS IS WHAT YOU EXPECT- CHANGING POLICIES LIKE CHANGING UNDERWEARS WITHOUT REFLECTION AND FORETHOUGHTS- AND IT ONLY HAPPEN IN MORONLAND
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written by Catharsis, May 16, 2008 07:19:21
AND MIND YOU.................... THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM MORONLAND PERCEIVE THEMSELVES TO BE OF THE FIRST WORLD ORDERP- THEY ARE IN DREAMLAND LIKE MJ IN NEVERLAND AND THEY ARE SO SHAMELESS THIS IS ONE THING i DON'T BUY.............
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written by JUST, May 16, 2008 08:03:56
http://www.pahlawan.com.my/voice/language2.shtml
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written by Arubin, May 16, 2008 08:35:44
'Pengamiran'... takde lojik dalam perkataan tu..


Siapa kata takde? Tak baca berita ka?

Pengamiran
1. Menteri yang tiada kebolehan sendiri untuk menjawab soalan.
2. Sejenis burung gagak.
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written by kangkbkeat, May 16, 2008 08:47:38
English and mandarin Is and will be the important languages now and in future.....and i don see any wrong in learning to have better future for our younger generations.I did studied in 'luar bandar' before and i can tell u,,,,by stressing the importance of good english command,we are doing more good and almost no harm to the kids....pepatah mengatakan,,,hendak seribu daya tak hendak seribu dalih.....Jgn mempolitikkan penggunaan bahasa english la......and jgn dipolarisasikan org bandar dan org luar bandar.....stereotype like this wont help us and we will see a more serious drops in quality of education if 'naive' opinion like this prevails smilies/wink.gif
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written by chaiksyn, May 16, 2008 08:57:45
Ms. Ainon,

I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU!

Orang kaya atau orang miskin tidak ada kena-mengena dengan bahasa pembelajaran! Puan sabagi Presiden Universiti Terbuka PTS should know better!

Inggeris adalah lingua franca dunia! Ms. Ainon pernah pergi ke China? Mereka semua bermati-matian hendak belajar bahasa Inggeris!

Hai, Ainon, I don't know what happen to you! Salah makan kot!
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written by cicakman, May 16, 2008 09:08:50
Our "so called" Education Minister- Kerismudin should think about to have more english teachers. Not to scrap the Sains n Maths in English. This issue nothing to do with poor or rich family. The Education ministry should plan before introduce or scrap the English ( Sains n Maths ).Future our children need english to compete with the world not with among themself. we dont want this kind of education minister who only think about his cronisssssssss.
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written by peace lover, May 16, 2008 09:10:50
I know of one Science teacher that most willingly offer his service as trainer in the NS, just to gain extra income and also to escape his teaching responsibilities. When his students' performance (in Science 'cos he is a Science teacher) is not to expectation, he starts blaming it on the children for not being attentive or focus in class. He is the only qualified Science teacher in the whole school (I mean majoring in Science); the rest are those who cannot even speak proper English and yet always being picked (by our brainless Jabatan Pendidikan) to attend "Khusus" without proper substitute or replacement arranged. "Cikgu ganti" that comes into the class would either tell the kids to "buat kerja sendiri" or " teach some other subject. At times, those stupid teachers also cannot get facts right. Parents have to correct them and yet they try to argue. One occasion, I had to show them encyclopedias and secondary textbooks to confirm my claim and guess what they said initially. They said those encyclopedias were printed in foreign country and cannot be accepted; so I took the Form 3 textbooks and reference books to show them. Even after that they were not happy but after i took up the case to the principal with a very very sacarstic letter to the school, then those "teachers" had to relent to facts. What stupid teachers we have; cannot even be "of level to the the Form 3 textbook"!!

Top students in that school performs well simply not from the effort of the school but from the effort of either the kids themselves (who do self studies) or parents (who can afford) that sent their kids to private tuition classes. As for my son, his results was from the dedicated attention and time that my sister had contributed in coaching him.

Here, there are 2 issues arising: 1. why the approval was given the teacher to volunteer? 2. for the Science and Maths (being taught in English, it will be very very good if our education minister is able to explain in detials what did your Ministry do to ensure the success of the 2 subjects being taught in English. It was a good move to change the teaching medium to English but by just switching and miserably giving "khusus" to your under-qualified teachers, do not just open your bloody mouth and say it is not successful and need to switch it back to Malays medium. Don't main main with the future of our children (future pillars of the nation).
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written by drabdulwahid, May 16, 2008 09:21:09
saya sokong math ngn sains diajar dlm bahasa malaysia.

cerita dia mcm ni. bukannya nk masuk bab racial atau patriotisma. isu sebenar ialah sejauh mana medium bahasa yang digunakan itu efektif dlm mendidik rakyat terbanyak. murid2 miskin dan luar bandar menghadapi masalah dalam mempelajari math dan sains dalam bahasa inggeris. bukan murid2 saja. cikgu pon bermasalah juga.

org cakap senang, bagi training. berapa banyak cikgu yg perlu training?ni serupala macam bg cikgu2 ni masuk uni balik. masa, pelatih yang diperlukan, dah amik kira? cukup?boleh berjaya ke?masa math ngn sains diajar dlm bm dulu pon cikgu dh kena pegi byk kursus. skrg bg lagi kursus. masa bila dia nk ajar student? masa bila dia nk practice ajar dlm english?

isu bersaing di peringkat global bukannya diatasi dgn mengajar sains dan matematik dlm BI. ajar je la english dgn intensif. hasilkan lg banyak cikgu english. carila method yang lagi baik nk ajar student english. kan professor byk kat malaysia ni. tanya diorg macam mana.

kita nk ajar student, semua skali supaya boleh sains dgn math.kaya dan miskin. yang kaya bolehkla bercakap pasal nk pegi europe, nk anak diorg pegi kerja kt luar negara. boleh pergi tuisyen. 4-5 sujek pegi tuisyen. boleh belanja beli buku latihan byk2. mak bapak pon reti ckp omputih. jiran2 pon reti ckp matsaleh. pegi sekolah bandar. semua kwn2 anak dr, anak lawyer, anak engineer.

mcm mana pulak anak org kg? mak bapak reti baca saja.duduk kat hulu banat mana xtau. cikgu pon xcukup.itu pon low grade punya cikgu.graduate 2nd class.nk pi tuisyen? nk makan pon duit cukup2. buku latihan? mana ada kedai buku. kedai runcit adala. bahasa omputih sepatah pon xpernah dgr. tup2 nk ajar dlm bahasa omputih.mampuihla nk adapt.
sama la yg duduk kt city pon. klau miskin mana ada duit nk bersaing ngn yg kaya2. yg kaya2 bolehla ckp, ooooo...kena usaha kuat. kepala hotak hangpa. zaman skrg semua kena ada duit. nk reti english pon kena ada duit.klau xdak duit mcm mana nk lg pandai drpd anak org kaya.

jgnla terlalu individualistik. awat, klau anak hg blajar math ngn sains dlm bm, dia jadi bodo english ka? member saya cina blaka, blajar sains ngn math dlm bm, anak dato' pon ada, ok ja study kat overseas. xdak apa pon.

english ni mmgla kelebihan bg yg kaya. tapi yang miskin macam mana?

nk suruh student belajar bahasa lain pon xpa. belajarla. apa salahnya.

punyala koman rakyat malaysia ni, mengaku malaysian malaysia, tapi bahasa kebangsaan sendiri xmau.
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written by cwy, May 16, 2008 09:26:56
As Malaysians, we ought to know Bahasa Malaysia.
The problem is that many Malaysians, esp. those who are just educated
in English are complacent of knowing this language, without realising
the importance of other languages.
It looks awkward that a Chinese knows not Chinese, a Malay knows not Bahasa,
and an Indian knows not tamil in this country!
The writer is right in presenting her view in this world of globalisation, and in suggesting the approprite ways of teaching language and scientific subjects.
Please don't simply 'hentam' her or even me, a Chinese, if you are not trained in education.
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written by asguard, May 16, 2008 09:27:39
Ada setengah orang...masih lagi tidur...setakat ini kemana anda pergi terutamanya di luar negeri....orang asing akan bercakap dalam bahasa Inggeris dan bukan bahasa Malaysia atau Indonesia.... jikalau belajar di luar negara ...bahasa pengantaran adalah Bahasa Inggeris bukannya bahasa Malaysia. Lagi pun... kebanyakan peluang perkerjaan diluar negara boleh dapat kerja jikakalau faham dan bertutar dalam bahasa Inggeris.... kalau enggan nak belajar bahasa inggeris makna ...katak dibawah tempurung untuk selamanya... tak payah nak untuk memajukan diri sendiri....
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written by Florance, May 16, 2008 09:27:59
Cik Puan Ainon,
Hope you are not single. If you are not, then please check your, dressing, speaking and style of living. If it is traditional Melayu or campur campur style barat. Are your children studying in Malaysia in Sekolah agama with tudung or in Colleges and International Schools with jeans and t-shirt. Please don't preach for the sake of preaching.
Language does not matters, what matters is the culture and traditional that we
are thought and brought up with by each religion.
Respect, Love, Care and Concern is same in all language. Learning an extra language is only an advantage. It will benefit our children some how where ever they are, in Malaysia or Overseas. Miskin atau Kaya is not important.
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written by drabdulwahid, May 16, 2008 09:30:23
isu segalanya berkaitan ngn yang kaya ng miskin. ekonomi ngn pendidikan goes together.

mmg hishamuddin tu politik ja lebih.saya pon setuju. mampuih pi la kat dia nk jadi apa pon. pendidikan dibawah mamat ni, ngn bm ka ngn english ka serupa saja. teruk situla.

tapi klau PR naik jadi kerajaan nanti saya harap math ngn sains diajar dlm BM. sebab kelebihan dia lagi byk.

yang kaya2 ni klau xpercaya, cuba pi tgk sendiri sekolah2 2nd klas. toksahla kira yang 1st klas. tgk klas yg rendah2.yang belakang2. lepa ni bukannya cerdik sgt. cikgu2 pon serupa la. kat malaysia ni klau cikgu cerdik xdakla dia jadi cik. dia jadi engineer ka, lawyer ka, doktor ka.

tapi sbb keputusan periksa dia gitu2 saja, dia jadi cikgu. ramai yang cekap dlm bahasa malaysia, xbrapa boleh english. klau lepa ajar dlm bm kan senang. lepa senang ajar. senang bagi student paham. ini BI pon tersengguk2. student xpaham cikgu sendiri pon xpaham apa yg lepa cakap.
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written by red1, May 16, 2008 09:30:58
Blame Dewan Bahasa & Pustaka. It is not the fault of the class divide or damning the rural poor that we finally have to switch from a poorly supported scientifi Bahasa.

DBP was entrusted the task to translate Science and Maths to bahasa and they faired so badly that the whole education system suffered. Our students since the bahasa switch became unemployable nor competent at the world class level.

Neither was DBP becoming better during Anwar Ibrahim's 17 years tenure in govt. I must say that there is something really rotten with the system there. Give a big kick and shock. Lob of a head. Few heads. Cut something to shake it out of its dreamstate.

I read some time ago that even our renowned poet A. Samad Said has to cry for his sweat wage. If a nation cannot appreciate its own literature laurette it cannot be fit to be called a nation.

Redhuan D. Oon
http://padi-malaysia.********.com/
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written by nafis, May 16, 2008 09:32:39
alamak, now it's the golongan kaya to be blamed?

i thought those making the policies [gomen] that's to be blamed...in fact, they change policies to their whims, suka buat, tak suka ubah
yang jadi biol ialah anak2 [sebab kena switch brains] dan yang jadi bengang ialah makbapak [sebab kena cari buku lagi]
yang kenyang dan kaya ialah publisher buku
yang dapat nama ialah ketua kementerian pendidikan

someone said, the poor cannot afford private tuition for helping the children with coping in english...hello, that's why i said if the gomen is really sincere in implementing english as to "improving" the standard of english in its citizens, then provide good quality teachers in sekolah lar!

bukan tugas makbapak pun in the first place to ensure the kids learn good english, it's the gomen's part to do it!!

this ainon blaming the rich of wanting english and making the poor suffer is highly unreasonable and doesn't make sense at all

i have one ustazah who teaches Quran to my two special needs kids, she and her husband do not speak a word of english, but they strife hard to make extra income in order to send their two little girls to Smart Reader school...how's that, ainon?


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written by joemss, May 16, 2008 09:36:18
What kind of low mentality as the President of Universiti Terbuka PTS. The reason that our english is now so bad is as a result of these people holding positions in the local universities. Look at our bahasa malaysia for that matter, can we really have our own languange in total without changing the spelling of other languanges and call it bahasa malaysia? Even the word university is translated as pusat pengajaran tinggi or in short universiti (derived from english). How far can we go with the mentality in Dewan Bahasa & Pustaka? They can paid by changing the spelling of other languages and call it bahasa. I think my kids can do better than that. I do not for once ridicule our own bahasa malaysia but if we want to do it, please do it it professionally. It looks like when we write professional bahasa, it will consist of more words (spelling changed into bahasa) than our own words in bahasa. I personally like the word "Papan Mak" and "Batang Gembira".

Wake up so called President.
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written by drabdulwahid, May 16, 2008 09:40:58
ni bukan crita nk salahkan golongan kaya.

tapi golongan kaya xpaham kenapa math dan sains perlu diajar dlm BM.

nk habaq sikit kat golongan kaya, org miskin susah nk maju dan keluar dr kemiskinan mereka klau math dan sains diajar dlm bahasa inggeris.

salah hishamuddin la yg buat dasar tu. tapi yang dok sokong dulu bukan org miskin. yang sokong dulu, yang dh sedia pandai ngn yang mmg dh reti english.
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written by fishhook, May 16, 2008 09:47:44
It's not a matter of golongan kaya or miskin, it is the proficiency of the language that is the problem. In science and maths, the concepts and theories can be thought in any language as long as it is in a language that the student has adequate proficiency. For those who have mastered both English and Malay it's just a matter of vocabulary.

For those with poor English proficiency, it is no different from trying to get a university science professor who cannot read mandarin to tackle a standard one chinese school science paper. He'll fail miserably because although he may have the knowledge, he cannot understand what's being asked.
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written by smpadayachi, May 16, 2008 09:51:07
I don't what this person is trying to say, but I think I get the jest of it as though this person really have some sort of hangups with the English language. Accept the fact that English has taken over this planet earth, and the remaining known languages that are coming neck to neck are the following. Spanish, French, Hindi, Mandarin and Arabic. These following languages are here to stay and this per this person does not want to see this happen should be thinking many different ways to make a living on this planet earth in the future.

In fact Indians in Malaysia must take this as precautionary, and idealistic movement to introduce Hindi as an elective subject in vernacular Tamil stream rightaway. This will enable for the future generations to seek a very closer relationship with Bharat (India). This may sound like someone is trying to shove something that is foreign, but in the bigger picture, Indians in Malaysia who are of Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam, Punjabi descend will have an added advantage to be more flexible and marketable in terms of the modern century. Nonetheless, the Indians of Tamil descend particularly Indians from Malaysia have a very strong resentment and a sort of inferiority complex towards Hindi which is predominantly used in Bharat (India). The strong anger that displays from someone watching Hindi movies, and imitating Bollywood is already evident among Indians in Malaysia. This is not what we're talking about learning how to say Yes, No, I and You in Hindi, and we don't want that sort of characters to infilter future generations who're going to be tested on making a living can be quiet a challenging feat if you don't speak Hindi. Tamil has strong roots from Sanskrit and it's wise attempt for the future generations to take better advantage to master Hindi. This is just an opinion and not someone from a Tamil descend person like myself has been infactuated or burning desire to give up Tamil.
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written by uzumaki naruto, May 16, 2008 10:13:54
this lady is a publisher lah. she sells books of all types and all of them are in malay language. so that figure why she promotes/lobby the use of BM in all subject.
it's bread and butter issue for her and for the future of her book empire.

hopefully the Edu. MIn are smart enuff not to listen to her suggestion.
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written by ONGJJJ, May 16, 2008 10:19:30
I have a better suggestion to the author here...go back to cave language since you logic is caveman like...what has city/English got to do with village/Malay language. Wake up laa, the world is globalising ...going borderless...and to communicate and compete or just to be relevant, we, our children and our children's children must learn and communicate in English...the lingua fraca of the world...unless you subscribe to Jim Roger's prognosis...21st century is the era of Mandarin.
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written by goldmine, May 16, 2008 10:54:04
My daughter is now in standard 4, I really pity her because she still cannot catch-up with the English language terms used on Science especially. I also find the language is too advance for malay pupils to understand. I'm using Malay language at home, because I'm A MALAY, so English is not my mother tongue language. It's easy for Chinese, Indians or Western minded Malays to say that it's ok these subjects are taught in English because they worship this language and use it in their everyday's life. Well, not for me! I against it right from the start.

My daughter is struggling to conquer the English subject, so it's really a heavy burden for her to study two extra subjects in English with terms. And I'm turning out just find with English just by learning English subject only at my malay medium school.

Oh yes, we live right in the heart of Kuala Lumpur City in a luxury condo with the maintenance fee of RM400 a month. So guys, what are you talking about? If it is a struggle for rich people like us, it is definitely harder for poor people in kampung area. Teaching these two subjects in English is just not right!
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written by matkreko, May 16, 2008 11:10:15
"Dasar yang memaksa budak-budak miskin belajar bahasa Inggeris sambil belajar matematik dan sains adalah ibarat memaksa budak-budak miskin itu belajar berenang sambil memanjat pokok kepala."

Terlalu dangkal hujahmu, wahai Ainon! Budak-budak miskin atau kaya tiada kena mengena dengan bahasa atau yang seumpamanya, malah penguasaan bahasa selain dari bahasa ibunda mereka seumpama membuka pintu-pintu peluang yang boleh mengubah hidup mereka; peluang yang selama ini tertutup akibat kejahilan atau pemikiran sempit orang-orang seperti kamu!

Pernahkah dengar pepatah melayu "Hendak seribu daya, tak hendak seribu dalih", atau bahasa inggerisnya "When there's a need, there's a way"? Yang penting dan sepatutnya diberikan tumpuan di sini ialah mewujudkan situasi "hendak" itu sendiri... bukannya mencipta berbagai-bagai "dalih" untuk memenuhi tujuan "tak hendak".

Funny isn't it, to think that the same proverb in English does not have the negative statement as equivalent in the Malay language? Something to ponder...

Kalau benarpun hendak menggunakan Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa pengantar kepada pengajaran Sains dan Ilmu Hisab (Matematik), usaha sepatutnya digembeleng terlebih dahulu dalam mewujudkan istilah-istilah yang bersesuaian untuk tujuan pengajaran dan juga menambah jumlah bahan-bahan rujukan dalam kedua-dua mata pelajaran tersebut dalam Bahasa Melayu. Inilah yang dilakukan oleh orang-orang Jepun sebelum mereka berjaya menjadi sebuah negara yang maju.

Adalah satu tindakan yang bodoh, andainya kembali menggunakan Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa pengantar, sementelahan tiada usaha untuk mengembangkan pengetahuan mereka dalam menyediakan rujukan tambahan seumpama membiarkan mereka kehausan menimba perigi yang kering.

[MatKreko]
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written by Bluechip, May 16, 2008 11:20:29
Gunakanlah bahasa kebangsaan kita dalam apa-apa kepenggunaan. Tetapi mempelajari atau menggunakan bahasa lain didalam apa-apa perkara perlu dipandang pada sudut yang positif dan bukannya negatif. Dengan mempelajari bahasa inggeris, kita dapat selaut ilmu. Kita boleh menggunakan bahasa Melayu atau Malaysia didalam pencarian selaut ilmu tetapi Malaysia mengalami kekurangan penterjemah bahasa asing ke bahasa Melayu, tidak seperti Indonesia yang memiliki banyak penterjemah bahasa asing, maka tidak hairanlah Indonesia ada Pak Habibie yang boleh mencipta kapal tebang.

Kita boleh ikut seperti orang jepun yang menggunakan bahasa kebangsaan dalam pencarin ilmu terutamnya ilmu sains dan matematik tetapi konsep pemikiran dan set minda orang melayu masih lagi berada pada tahap statik dan memerlukan masa yang agak lama untuk berada pada tahap yang sama.

Malaysia mengamalkan sistem pendidikan British tetapi adakah rakyatnya terutamanya orang melayu mengamalkan konsep pemikiran orang british ?, PM Abdullah pun tidak berfikiran seperti orang british.
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written by hardworking_taxpayer, May 16, 2008 11:33:01
Whatever language that the Gomen going to use is NO USE! Why?! This is because of all the lousy teachers they employ. Everything quota. How many teachers do you think got 3rd or 2nd grade in their SPM?
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written by Commonsenses, May 16, 2008 12:21:45
ainon = Rahman yaaacob, teruskan dan korbankan orang melayulah. Yang tak tahu BI tu berkerja dengan gomen. Berapa banyak lagi nak masuk gomen servis macam Ainon tu. nak berhubong dengan orang luar takda konfident dan tak paham. Hoi malaysia boleh!
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written by harryo, May 16, 2008 13:55:59
Ini semua bodoh punya Kerajaan dan menteri berkenaan. Sudah menetap satu bahasa pengantara, biarlah digunakan selama-lamanya sama ada BM atau BI. Masalahnya buku-buku rujukanpun tak cukup dalam BM. Penterjemahan lambat, terma sains yang digunakan dalam penterjemahan terlalu baru. Guru-guru tak faham walaupun dalam BM. Bagaimanakah boleh kita maju dan capai negara maju kalau bahasa pengantarapun kita pertikaikan sudah beberapa tahun dilaksanakan. Adohai ... Tuhanlah tolong kami.
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written by citizen eye, May 16, 2008 16:26:12
Even our stupid ministers cannot even speak good English,
Its the Education System that has been the BIGGEST FLOP.
Its all political.
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written by SeriousLy, May 16, 2008 17:42:13
How about French, German, Russian class in Schools! I support! Because in developed countries you can take up more language! smilies/grin.gif
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written by SeriousLy, May 16, 2008 17:48:06
My child Standard 2 have to study Computer in Malay! I couldn't care how many points she get in that subject! When I read the computer books, I laughed! smilies/grin.gif
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written by sukinong, May 16, 2008 17:55:19
"Koblok" is a word in rumpun bahasa kepulauan melayu?
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written by Watcheyes1, May 16, 2008 20:11:46
I think this is Mx2 punya idea sebab dia punya English KO!!!
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written by AsamLaksa, May 16, 2008 22:39:15
Ainon dan orang-orang lain yang masih nak berdebat pasal kaya lawan miskin, masih tak faham, kah? Orang kaya, orang miskin tak jadi isu. Ada peraturan semua budak-budak wajib menerima pelarajan in sekolah dan sekolah kebangsaan semuanya percuma. Jadi kaya miskin semuanya boleh masuk sekolah. Tak perlu tuisyen pun budak-budak kaya dan miskin pun boleh jadi pandai. Tak ada duit beli buku Inggeris? Tak ada perpustakaan, kah? Budak-budak miskin pun terima bantuan buku teks.

Masalahnya kualiti pengajaran di sekolah-sekolah kebangsaan tidak memuaskan. Semuanya tak betul.
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written by hibiscus22, May 16, 2008 22:52:52
Keep the issues simple. Persevere and learn English from young is important. Let's look our neighbour Thailand and Indonesia, they begin to realise their education policies failures in national language makes them losing out to ASEAN country that encouraged English such as Malaysia and Singapore in term of competency in most aspects. Pls my dear fellow Malaysian, persevere learn English.
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written by bmrat, May 17, 2008 00:57:04
Ainon, why you're so narrow minded.

Just check the web, how many websites are in Bahasa Melayu?
Now is the information age & internet age.
We get the latest & best info in English.

Moreover, most of the best books are written in English.
If you're hungry for latest knowledge and good knowledge, you definitely get English books.

In business world, the standard language will be English. Can you expect to speak to a potential Japanese customer for the first time in Bahasa? Come on, let's get realistic.

Let's not listen to this katak too much.
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written by Fernz, May 17, 2008 02:35:11
"Fernz, sure maths and science may be a good way to pick up the language. Heck, I think entertainment in English like watching movies, cartoons, sitcoms, listen to music, read comics, read books, etc. are even better to pick up the language what more a school subject," writes AsamLaksa.

AsamLaksa, the language in all the material that you mentioned above keeps changing and that would not be good for beginners in the English language. They need something fixed. I am not promoting rote learning. It's just for a start. Codification must follow democratisation of education to cater to the lowest common denominator.

Re English literature, I stand by what I stated before. It's very much easier for those struggling to study the English language, compared with doing summaries and essays etc. There's no great mystery in studying English literature at the school level. English Lit majors should know that. It's all about characters and values.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.


http://fernzjoefernandez.********.com
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written by Leon, May 17, 2008 03:45:21
Malay or English, the victims ultimately are the students, i.e. our children. Why don't add another language into the equation, Chinese, perhaps Japanese? Aren't Chinese and Japanese at the forefront of the scientific world today? Don't schoolchildren from ethnic-Chinese countries regularly lead the world in terms of achievements in mathematics? Don't be silly. Teaching any subject in a foreign tongue unfamiliar to the students is stupid, plain stupid. Reverting it back to Bahasa Melayu is the best decision. The switch to English should not have happened in the first place. Meanwhile, those blokes in DBP must get their arses to prepare Bahasa Melayu in order for it to be tech-friendly. Update your glossaries, especially in science and mathematics. But remember do not take short cuts as in borrowing from English whole-sale. Bahasa Melayu has many obscure terms that carry the same meaning as many tech-words from the English language. Do your research. That's what you are paid for by the rakyat!
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written by Leon, May 17, 2008 03:46:21
English literature is the correct subject/avenue to learn the English language.
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written by 1351, May 17, 2008 05:26:27
Somebody, anybody with time in hand, please help talk sense into commentator above ie goldmine. Her attitude is a threat to the daughter's well being.

Many thanks
Casper
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written by kavidibaku, May 17, 2008 23:06:23
I do not agree with this lady. Is she against rich people or what? What is the association between rich and medium of instruction? Does she think that all rich people are good at english?

Madam Ainon,
How many courses at your"U" being offered in malay, anyway?
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