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Friday, 25 April 2008 17:17

(IANS) - Malaysia’s newly formed three-party opposition alliance Pakatan Rakyat (PR) that includes the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Parry (PAS), which is committed to an Islamic state, has said it would strive to retain a multi-racial character.

The other two parties in the alliance, which goes to the 12th parliament with an unprecedented 82 members and control of four states, are the Parti Keadalan Rakyat (PKR) and the Democratic Action Party (DAP).

“We must recognise that Islam is the country’s official religion but it is impractical to turn multiracial and multi-religious Malaysia into an Islamic state, everything must be based on the federal constitution,” the alliance’s parliamentary leader Wan Azizah Wan Ismail said in an interview to Chinese language daily Sin Chew.

Visualising a government headed by her husband and former deputy prime minister Anwar Ibrahim, Wan Azizah said it would champion the cause of ‘Ketuanan Rakyat’ (people’s supremacy) instead of shouting for ‘Ketuanan Melayu’ (Malay supremacy).

She said: “Although it is PAS’ ideology to create an Islamic state, it can only be practiced in the overwhelming Malay-majority state of Kelantan, and not the whole of Malaysia due to the country’s multiracial makeup.”

In a multiracial society, she said, PKR’s coalition partner PAS will definitely not be able to set up an Islamic state, The Sun daily said quoting the interview Friday.

“The fact is, we all accept that Islam is the official religion of Malaysia, and the three parties should cooperate within the framework of the constitution,” she said.

“The reality is that the Malaysian society is made up of Malays, Chinese, Indians and other minority races, making it impossible to establish an Islamic state.”

Anwar Ibrahim has claimed that many lawmakers of the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) want to cross over following the electoral upset last month.

He said his alliance would remove the government of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi by September.

Majority Muslim Malays, the indigenous people called ‘boomiputera’ or sons of the soil, form over 60 percent of the Malaysian population of 28 million that has significant ethnic minorities of 33 percent Chinese and eight percent Indians.

While many Chinese practice Buddhism, there are significant groups of Christians. Tamil Hindus account for over two million and there is a Sikh community of 100,000.

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written by Debbie, April 25, 2008 17:22:12
Way to go Azizah, you have my respect.Put all those people in the right perspective of building a proud Malaysian Malaysia.
Shalom
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written by KKchan, April 25, 2008 17:22:38
Clearly it is not a question of practicality. It must be more than that. Are we committed to a secular state or is PKR's stance on this very important issue based on practicality? If it is the latter, I have cause for concern.
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written by ibabonma, April 25, 2008 17:31:04
We require the approval of 2/3 of the non-Muslim MPs to agree to an ammendment to our constitution to implement Islamic law in multi-racial, multi religion Malaysia. Will they?
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written by RitchieLow, April 25, 2008 17:31:26
Better to have ONE sane voice from a leader talking than the incessant judo dance of the members of the other parties, spinned or otherwise.
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written by SamYap, April 25, 2008 17:31:54
written by KKchan, April 25, 2008 | 17:22:38

Clearly it is not a question of practicality. It must be more than that.


Agreed. Exactly my thoughts too. It has to be done based on political ideals for a nation, not for political expediency.
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written by maisur, April 25, 2008 17:33:45
KKchan... let the people decide. if 2/3 of kelantanese want an islamic state, why force secularism onto them? and if 2/3 of penangites want secularism, why force syariah on them? and if no 2/3 obtained, stay as what we are now. as simple as that. is that not compatible with democracy?
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written by little dragon, April 25, 2008 17:45:57
non-moslems r NOT against islam when d resist d idea of an islamic state. however fair, just n compassionate islamic tenets may be, d "church" n state must remain two separate entities if our nation is to survive n remain a viable one.

it is not only moslems, but this same argument cud well also apply to any christians, buddhists, hindus, bahais, rastafarians etc. trying to establish their religious laws as d laws of state. d principle shud b dat if one category does not get to establish their religious laws, then others shud also not get to do d same.
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written by temenggong, April 25, 2008 17:51:04
There you are! Yet the media will keep asking Nik Aziz and Hadi about the islamic state, and they will fall for that trap. Pas should simply let Azizah speak on behalf of PR, and refer all questions to her.

Yes, I agree its more than just practicality. For one, nobody knows that is an islamic state. Two, it must be consistent with the federal constitution. So, no islamic state, whatever that is.

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written by maisur, April 25, 2008 18:01:47
agree with KKChan... let the rakyat decide through a referendum. if 2/3 wants an islamic state, don't be a hypocrite by trying to deny the choice of the 2/3 majority (and at the same time pretending that you are the defender of democracy). so let the rakyat decide...whatever their decision is. this country belongs to the rakyat, not dua tiga kerat bloggers in this MT.
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written by mhwang, April 25, 2008 19:05:22
Hidup Azizah...we r with u all the way
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written by Jan, April 25, 2008 19:49:29
Yes we can support PAS but no we CANNOT support an Islamic state.
In fact we can support anything so long as it's not UMNO or BN.
No disrespect here for Islam by the way.
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written by Sabahfan, April 25, 2008 20:01:17
Religion, religion, religion... I am simply sick of hearing the subject especially when politicians clearly are using it to stay in power, using the ignorance of the masses to vote for them.

Someone once said to me...

"We have more than enough religion on earth to divide the people and worse too many politicians using religion to make us go at one anothers throat."

whoever coined this phrase to me is the enlightened one.

I like to see in my lifetime that Malaysia dont have any official religion and no ketuanan agama and all that rubbish. As far as I am concerned, having seen how UMNO used religion for their political benefit, it is time Malaysians outlawed RELIGION-POLITICS mixing. Period.

Until then, I will sing John Lennons "Imagine" in the next election during campaign period
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written by Negarakuku, April 25, 2008 20:53:19
Read this PAS,

Malaysians of all races supported PAS because they promised not to turn Malaysia into Islamic state. That is also the reason why they won the hearts of many voters!

The Malay, Chinese, Indian dll voted and gave PAS the chance they needed to show what they promised. In Islam, if you don´t keep your promise, Allah will send you to hell. In Malaysia, the voters will send you to Kingdom come!
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written by uzumaki naruto, April 25, 2008 21:05:55
it is not only impractical but also a stupid move that would only bring bad thing should it be implemented for this country, or any country for that matter. reason being - its a harsh, outdated, repressive and regressive system that is detrimental to present day human progress.

if it were to be implemented fully(with all that hudud crap), the people that would suffer most are the muslims (born muslim). when large majority of the people of the country are subjected to a repressive system, the community would regress. in time, this would have adverse impact on the country collectively.

it's high time for the rest of PR members to convince PAS to drop its obsolete ideological stance for good so that they can move forward in reforming the country for a better change.

If PAS truly wants to ‘memperjuangkan Islam’ the best and the only way to do it is by transforming PAS to a charity organization. Doing it politically (competing with UMNO) would only lead in making mockery out of the religion of Islam and GOD itself. and all that they both (PAS/UMNO) had achieved was make themselves look like fools.

Pas should stop wearing that hypocritical moderate mask and go for a full makeover if they truly wanted change.

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written by Kathy, April 25, 2008 21:17:39
Absolutely. I, a non-believer, accept Islam as the official religion of Malaysia whilst respecting the right of those belong to other religions to pursue their respective religious beliefs. As long as all Malaysians are willing to accept this there will be racial and religious harmony and we can forge forward to building a prosperous and just society.
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written by KotaDamansara73, April 25, 2008 21:40:24
Everybody accept ISlam as the official religion. But nobody wants and Islamic state and many Malays don't want it as well.
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written by sampalee, April 25, 2008 21:55:56
Religion[All inclusive] is the saviour of mankind,here and herafter.Religion is made up of two root words 'RE' and 'LIGIOS" meaning Return[re] to our TRUE SELF[ligious].The scripture of every single religion leads mankind to uncover his true nature which is union with Tuhan[also refer to as Yoga]
It is politics that poison religion from that of unity[oneness]to that of seperation based on differing ideology[concepts or opinions arising in the minds of man]
Leave politics aside and return to religion and there is hope yet.
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written by Naseer Ahmad, April 25, 2008 22:54:59
The recent elections were NOT about whether Malaysia ought to be an Islamic State or a Secular State. They were about correcting the MISMANAGEMENT of the country under BN. May I suggest that PR take an immediate decision that nobody in the coalition will use the words ISLAMIC STATE or SECULAR STATE for the next five years at least.
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written by miwaki, April 26, 2008 03:07:07
We have an intelligent future female Prime Minister in the making.People like Badawi has a long way to learn how to talk in order to garner support from Malaysians.Leader must be able to talk sense and not always irritate the listeners.
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written by johanssm, April 26, 2008 05:14:58
We need more rational thinking people from PR.
To be direct and straight forward here , another piece of stunt by PAS with islam this and islam that , DAP might goes solo.
PR leaders better spent time to develop Malaysia and to prepares for the big day.
Big day for the entry and to welcomes DSAI into parliament.
That is WHAT WE wanted to see , instead of islam this and islam that.
Get the priorities right.
Not here to insult any religion, keep religion at home.
This is the real feelings from a rakyat, i voted and so does my neighbours
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written by bumi non malay, April 26, 2008 05:41:19
maisur

Agree with referendrum and 2/3 majority for Islamic state.....

Don't stop there, at the same referendrum also decice to Sabah/Sarawak to leave Malaysia, also Abolish Apostasy law in all states....

How about removing Islam as the Official Religion of Malaysia, removing those special rights of Royalty, ISA.....etc

Lets go further during the referendrum....Abolish or retain the Monarchy!!

How about ALL States disband and Declare independance from Malaysia and rule on their own......the strong survive and the weak ..... you go figure.

That is democracy for Chaos.....! Don't think because at the current moment, things are going your way its so easy to talk BIG.......things can also change at the blink of an eye!! Are you mature enough to face the consequence or would you then Cry the Jihad War since things did not go your way???



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written by Hope4all, April 26, 2008 07:46:42
I see a future PM here!
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written by joeawk, April 26, 2008 09:50:02
Malaysian, speaking as a non muslim, please do not fear everything Islam. We may noy not agree with everything that is islam but we also cannot possibly disagree with everything Islam.

I do believe that we can identify with most teachings in Islam which are either identical or similar with our belief.

At the same time, there is no need for an islamic state in Malaysia. What is needed is to implement non controversial aspects of Islam values and laws.

As for those aspects which are controversial, if the authority want to implement , apply them only to the muslims, if they agree to accept. There is no need to be holier than thou and impose your belief on non believers.
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written by JFR, April 26, 2008 13:56:15
Wan Azizah
Wonderful statesmanship! Bravo.I can accept a lady PM like you.

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written by JFR, April 26, 2008 14:02:12
An Islamic state in which all are truly,truly equal,where justice and fairness and the egalitarianism of Islam are paramount,where substance and righteousness triumphs over form and externals are perfectly acceptable.BTW,please do not impose the jizya (tax) on non-Muslims if this comes to pass!
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written by AsamLaksa, April 26, 2008 17:50:52
Not practical??? This is a copout. It doesn't say you are either against it or for it. Practicality is dependent on the situation and can change; today not practical, tomorrow practical.

I urge all Malaysians to drop the fear of Islam and Islamic state and find out more about this idea of Islamic state. Only then will you be able to object or support it objectively. Otherwise it's only all talk that leads to negative sentiments and division. So, if you support an Islamic state, tell us why and how it would work. If you oppose an Islamic state, argue rationally, not just speculate. But don't come out and say it's about practicality as this can go either way depending on circumstances.

I respect Nik Aziz for making his ideals clear. He doesn't flip-flop and you know what you are dealing with. It's an uphill struggle to sell the idea of an Islamic state. I do not like Karpal Singh's talk of over his dead body on the issue of an Islamic state. Give us reasons, Karpal, not keep on giving DAP the chauvanist image.

I am anti-hudud (anti-capital punishment actually), the discrimatory practices in Islamic law, and the potential erosion of basic rights (including freedom of religion and sexual preferences) that is carried out in other Islamic countries. Thus if any Islamic state wants to introduce these practices I will oppose it.
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