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Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:34
It was very pleasing for me to read yesterday about the conference titled ‘Who Needs an Islamic State: An Intellectual Discourse’. With people like Malik Imtiaz Sarwar on the panel, you can tell that the discourse will cut the issue right down to the bone. The Islamic State is a very emotive issue for Muslims, especially fundamentalists. For them, the Islamic State represents an ultimate level of the expression of Islam and will be the precipitator of an Islamic Golden age. I humbly disagree with them because of the following reasons.

 1.      The Islamic Golden Age , as can be understood by this wikipedia entry was a time where not only were science and technology probed deeply by the Muslims, but also philosophy and literature. Muslims then had no problem with reading thoughts of others and producing highly imaginative fictional works. These days, such works will be considered at best, deviating and at worst, blasphemous.

2.      Muslims never had a single unifying state for any long period of time after end of the Umayyads. By the end of the Abbasids, there were several Muslim kingdoms already. Not only that, the Abbasids after Al-Mamun were most only nominal caliphs, the real power was in the hands of the Turkish bodyguard class.

3.      The classical theorist of the Caliphate, Al-Mawardi believed that the leader of the Islamic State should be from the Quraisy clan, the clan of Muhammad. This racist concept of the caliph betrays the true face of the Islamic State, that it is an expression of Pan-Arabic Cultural Exclusivism (paceism)

For the Muslims from the newly-emerging Pakatan Rakyat (PR) who wish for an Islamic State, I would urge you to consider the following from the Quran:

1.      The Quran nowhere mandates the establishment of an Islamic State. The word ‘dawlah’ which means ‘state’ in Arabic isn’t used in the Quran at all. Rather, the Quran talks about the ummah of mankind as one ummah. (2/213) 

2.      The Quran is unsparing in its criticisms of empires that were destroyed. In 46/35, it contrasts the system of the messengers with that of the disobedient stating that only the systems of the disobedient would be destroyed. Doesn’t this show that the numerous Islamic states before were disobedient? How can they be Islamic states if they did not follow the way of the messengers?

3.      The Quran talks about the purification of one’s service for God (deeni-khaalis) and mentions establishing justice intimately with this concept (7/29). It never states that an ‘Islamic State’ is necessary before establishing justice in society.

The Islamic State is really an icon for intellectually bankrupt individuals to galvanise the Muslims to move under their own flags. In reality, Muslims do not need to focus on establishing states but rather establishing justice. This is what the Quran calls as the purest of service for God and indeed, this is what the Quran asserts will bring about the garden on this earth and the next as opposed to a totalitarian state which is contradictory to the Quranic principle of ‘no compulsion’. To the supporters of the Islamic State in the PR, I urge you, work with our fellow Malaysians and establish justice and you will see this garden emerge for yourselves in our country.

 

By Farouk A. Peru

www.peru.name

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written by Biawak, April 12, 2008 22:44:35
I have never met a Muslim in Malaysian who has the capacity to engage in a intellectual discourse for the purpose of enlightenment. I am afraid such an animal does not exist yet. So Mr. Peru you have to wait another 200 years to get a sensible response.
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written by temenggong, April 12, 2008 22:47:46
I also. No such animal!
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written by freeman, April 12, 2008 22:53:16
Well, Mr. Farouk,
Bravo, this is really an enlightenmet. Biawak, you are right but at least we have 1 who would take the trouble to enlighten us...Mr. Farouk Peru!!
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written by Daryl, April 12, 2008 23:01:23
Maybe this shouldn't be my response on this article. But, when PAS President was admitted to the hospital I only saw DSAI visit and none from DAP leaders. DAP leaders LKS, LGE or Karpal. Make a personal visit or comments publicly. Are you guys only know how to be critical but yet when a human touch is needed you guys don't know how too.
Please do not embarass me unless you did but just no one knew about it. Show the Malay and Muslims that you care at a personal level. Don't be hard headed because maybe you guys will be in power in very near future. So, show some personal touch and gain some respects at the same time. Do the right thing. If you did already put it in your personal website to show your sincerity about all PR leaders.
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written by singam, April 12, 2008 23:13:46
I too used to think there were no Muslims in Malaysia who really understood or followed the Qur'an. I was mistaken.

Let me assure you, there are many! I have met some and have read the writings of others. There is hope after all.

On another aspect, I'd like to clarify that State has more than one meaning. Like ice, water and steam are 3 different states of the same substance, state also means the condition of something.

An Islamic State can also mean a condition or circumstance that is compatible with the principles espoused in the Qur'an. Such a state is reflected by the justice, humanity, love and acceptance that can be found among the people living in that State.

Such an Islamic State, I fully support.
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written by temenggong, April 12, 2008 23:21:51
Journeyman,

We may have made a terrible mistake presumptiously. Please write an article on islam and confirm that fear!
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written by ultra, April 12, 2008 23:23:46
I believe the article written above is quite accurate. The whole issue about Islamic State being opposed in this country is due to perceived injustices and curtailing of individual rights of the non-muslims. These are the two major issues that makes it such a deal breaker.

Believe it or not, the so called 'restrictions' in an Islamic state, under most circumstances, directly involves morality issues. They are, in it's most basic form:
1) Attire
2) Gambling
3) Alcohol
4) Genre interactions
5) The hudud laws with regards to capital punishments
6) Syariah family laws, especially with regards divorce, rights to the children and apostasy
7) Pig farming

The issue is how much can the so called Islamic leaders tolerate the needs of the non-muslims with regards to these issues in an Islamic state. The other issue is how much hypocrisy can the non-muslims tolerate in an Islamic state.

Forgive me for oversimplification, but the 7 issues I put above gets recycled once every fortnight in this country and seriously, I wonder to whose advantage?

I don't care what a state is called as long as the principles of justice are seen to be held..
I don't care what a state is called as long as fair play is practiced by the society..
I don't care what a state is called as long as my family and my belongings are safe and secure..
I don't care what a state is called as long as the future for my offsprings are better and more secure than mine..
I don't care what a state is called as long as I can afford to provide a high standard of living for my family..
I don't care what a state is called as long as the future promises to be better than today..
I don't care what a state is called as long as the society has high morality standards..
I don't care what a state is called as long as environment I live in is clean, healthy and beautiful..
I don't care what a state is called as long as there is a culture that embodies all the good that I believe in..

My personal believe is, in such a state that I describe above, there will definitely be some form of restrictions on individual freedom, but those restrictions are worth adhering to ensure the society remains on a sustainable path. The education plays a very big part not only to ensure future survivability, but also to ensure everyone is deeply rooted to the principles adhered to by the society. There must be freedom of expression but the boundary of freedom must be deeply rooted to the spirit of justice and fair play. Only under these circumstances would the cultural embodiment become something that would have eternal value.

Call it whatever state, I'll be more than happy to be a part of it..
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written by Farouk, April 12, 2008 23:26:57
Mr Freeman, thanks for your comment.

Journeyman:as for the author whose name rings similar to a late, angst-laden second-rate indonesian actor, he will join the dickless club of which fft will be president as soon as an islamic state is formed in this country.

Me: No , no , no, I won't have it! Farouk Afero was not second rate.

And may I ask, why do you consider opposing the Islamic State as 'd**kless'? I think it's actually braver to oppose Islamofascism because Islamofascists , being intellectually challenged, resort to using threats.


Mr Singam:An Islamic State can also mean a condition or circumstance that is compatible with the principles espoused in the Qur'an. Such a state is reflected by the justice, humanity, love and acceptance that can be found among the people living in that State.

Sir, this is the garden on earth the Quran puts forward for the children of Adam. There will be justice for all, regardless of race. But we don't need to call it an 'islamic state' even, its simply utopia.
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written by padhma, April 12, 2008 23:37:41
A good muslim does not need an Islamic State. All he needs is the Quaran and the God given Intellect. That is a true muslim with strong Iman
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written by apasalahku, April 13, 2008 00:52:16
Every Ahmad and his dog (opps i mean cat) has his own idea about the 'ideal Islamic State'. Just ask Osama bin Laden and the Sheikh of Saudi and the Talibans.

Anyway, a theocracy can only end in an autocratic plutocracy of a few ulamaks. May be ok in Bagdad in the 12th century and Arabia in the 6th century but dudes, this is the 21st!
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written by Biawak, April 13, 2008 01:13:54
It always baffles me to hear when someone declare that Islam is beautiful or “Islam is peaceful” NOT because I am confused by original intention of the founder of this religion but in so many ways, my day to day interactions and mingling with the Muslim in Malaysian forces me to conclude, against my natural inclination, that it is odds or even diametrically opposed to spirit Koran as I understood it.

For a concrete example, the film put out by Geert Wilders, as I see it , the verses are totally out of context but the images are right on the money. It is so ironic that he can be so wrong and yet so right!

How can deny reality when it is in his face? In Malaysian it the norm!
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written by Sagaladoola, April 13, 2008 01:19:19
That is really a good writing.

I think if we are religious, we can be inspired by the values of the religion. The administration can be inspired but there should not be any State which is of religious nature. In any Religious State (be it Islam, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu etc. etc.), oftenly there will be people not of the religion get sidetracked / marginalised.

To the Muslims reading this, which one do you think would be the best choice. A person living in an Islamic State (which according to the article above not prescribed in Quran) or a person living inspired by peaceful and good Islamic values ?

I would choose the second one. That should be the root of it.

Regards,
http://sagaladoola.********.com
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written by FFT, April 13, 2008 01:25:12
written by Biawak, April 12, 2008 | 22:44:35
I have never met a Muslim in Malaysian who has the capacity to engage in a intellectual discourse for the purpose of enlightenment. I am afraid such an animal does not exist yet.


written by journeyman, April 12, 2008 | 23:04:45
as for the author whose name rings similar to a late, angst-laden second-rate indonesian actor, he will join the dickless club of which fft will be president as soon as an islamic state is formed in this country.



1 plus 1 = 2.

I like it when there is order, consistency and predictability in the universe.
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written by Spear Bing, April 13, 2008 01:44:27
padhma wrote, April 12, 2008 | 23:37:41

"A good muslim does not need an Islamic State. All he needs is the Quaran and the God given Intellect. That is a true muslim with strong Iman"
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A God given Intellect?.......... Intelligence yes, but intellect can never be given by God. Intellect is developed, bred, and nurtured. Be careful with the intellect because it still carries an iota of personal ego within it. Whenever the level of awareness is missing, the intellect will grow into an egoic monster. You can see for yourself numerous examples of such species existing in this material mundane world.

Have you not heard of the mistake of the intellect? - "Pragya Paradh"

One must listen to the intelligence of the Heart.
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written by ahmisk, April 13, 2008 03:24:44
Imagine if the European countries still called themselves CHRISTIAN STATES!

Might take some getting used to. smilies/wink.gif

(and by the way i hope nobody blurts out any nonsense about yes, the european countries ARE Christian states. If you think so you probably have never spent any reasonable length of time there. Even Tony Blair didnt dare to announce that he's a christian until after he left office)

But back on topic- I guess it wouldnt hurt for Europe to be Christian States, as long as they respected human rights.

Same goes for Malaysia. We can be an Islamic State- no problem. On the condition that universal Human Rights takes priority.
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written by RitchieLow, April 13, 2008 03:57:02
Conscience and Natural Justice
--Palden Jenkins

Unawareness is a well embedded historic institution. Living in modern society demands serious acquiescence in a fog of under-consciousness. Life's complexities work against sensitivity and empathy, instead demanding unawareness and ethical laxity. We each maintain these traits as a result of our conditioning, guilt and avoidance strategies - we stifle unconscious feelings and withhold our deeper truth.

Unawareness comes sharply into focus when we choose to cultivate awareness, ethical sensitivity and moral consistency. These clash with life's pressures, multiplying life's tensions. Spiritually- and ethically-conscious people take on doubled responsibilities in which conventional social obligations can conflict with their calling to pursue truth in their lives.

Life presents a choice to bury our moral concerns or to defy society's norms by prioritising them. Awareness-maggots eat away at us, leading us to an inescapable breaking-point that we all must sooner or later face.

Our collusive culture of unawareness is pervasive. We live a schizoid life, holding secret, privatised perceptions we don't share openly. Subscribing to a shared template of normality and convention, we reinforce it with convoluted explanations and reasons. A loaded catchphrase - 'the war against terrorism', 'the national interest' or 'the threat of unemployment' - can cause us to lock unthinkingly into step with conventions - even when we don't believe in them.
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written by ahmadbadrul40, April 13, 2008 04:00:58
Buddhist also provides love, humanity, justice, fairplay and equality to all human being. Why don't we call Malaysia Buddhist State.

A bunch of selfish Muslims who only care about themselves. Fark them.
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written by Mr Smith, April 13, 2008 08:28:34
"So Mr. Peru you have to wait another 200 years to get a sensible response."
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Actually there some very intellectual Islamic thinkers in our midst. Peru is one. And we have Faish Noor, Malik Imtiaz, Balri Musa, Azli Rahman, Haris Ibrahim and few more.
Unfortunately, they do not come from the ranks that can influence the masses. They are not in control of our education system, religious departments and the Cabinet.
Now what we have is quasi-Islamist politicians in influential positions who disseminate their own brand of Islam.
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written by rockli, April 13, 2008 09:40:28
Thanks, a great piece, well said.
If the Quran never advocate the necessity for an Islamic state, why make all the unnecessary noise and trouble and get on others nerves.

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written by padhma, April 13, 2008 13:57:33
padhma wrote, April 12, 2008 | 23:37:41

"A good muslim does not need an Islamic State. All he needs is the Quaran and the God given Intellect. That is a true muslim with strong Iman"
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A God given Intellect?.......... Intelligence yes, but intellect can never be given by God. Intellect is developed, bred, and nurtured. Be careful with the intellect because it still carries an iota of personal ego within it. Whenever the level of awareness is missing, the intellect will grow into an egoic monster. You can see for yourself numerous examples of such species existing in this material mundane world.

Have you not heard of the mistake of the intellect? - "Pragya Paradh"

One must listen to the intelligence of the Heart.

That was spear bing’s response.

Well, what I would like to say is :-

Intellect is the ability to think intelligently or understand.

Intelligence is the ability to understand and learn and make judgements or have opinions that are based on reason.

Therefore intelligence comes into play when one has sound intellect. Its only when you can think intelligently or understand can one develop the ability to understand and learn and make judgement or have an opinion that are based on reason.

What differentiates between man and primates is the intellect among others. What differentiates between man is their intelligence. Its god given intellect and it depends on your ability to develop it into intelligence.

Mistake of the intellect causes the impediment of one’s intelligence.

To think and understand Pragya Pardh is one thing(intellect). To understand and learn, and make judgements or have opinions is another thing(intelligence).

I disagree that that intellect can never be given by god. It is intelligence that is not given
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written by kooiseng, April 13, 2008 18:33:41
This sad state of affairs of the Malays is because of their prolonged state of slumber induced by the NEP. Their brains have been put on hold. No Malay is allowed to think. The government makes sure of this. Don't blame others. Look at their own attitudes. The Malays do not have anyone to wake them up from their NEP induced stupor.
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written by Spear Bing, April 14, 2008 01:12:09
Dear Padhma,

Here is an aritcle about INTELLIGENCE VS INTELLECT that may be of interest to you.:

Spirit has many descriptive names in New Thought. Divine Mind, First Cause, God, Universal Intelligence. Universal Intelligence is the everywhere-present all-knowingness of Spirit. Universal Intelligence knows all things and everything because it knows only itself, which is everything.
Because we are individualized centers of Spirit, we have that Intelligence too. Our Intelligence is our connection to Divine Mind. We are consciously and subconsciously connected to Universal Consciousness and Subconsciousness. When we think, we are connecting with Universal Consciousness. When we use our intuition, for example, we are connecting with Universal Subconsciousness. We have a "knowing" inside of us we need to take heed of. When we have decisions that need to be made, we can connect with Universal Intelligence and know that our decisions will be correct. When we do a Spiritual Mind Treatment, we are consciously connecting with Spirit, that all-knowingness of the Universe that can guide us in whatever conditions we need to address. The Intelligence that keeps the planets in alignment, that keeps the Earth rotating, that keeps the Sun shining is at our disposal.

Then there is the Intellect. Intellect is our human reasoning, limited to our five senses and our interpretation of our surroundings.

We need our intellect. It performs a very important job. It allows us to observe what is happening in our lives and deduce the cause -- which is what we are habitually thinking and feeling. Once we know the cause, we are at liberty to change our thinking (the cause) to something better for us.

The sticky part comes when we only use our intellect and not our Intelligence (which is what the human race has been doing in its evolution up until now). When we only use our intellect, we get the "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude toward life. It becomes a tether that keeps us from soaring to our highest Spiritual Growth. It keeps us limited to living a life of perception only. Reacting instead of acting.

When has the "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude ever created something or made something happen? Did the first carpenter who made the first chair say, "I'll believe there is such a thing as a chair when I see one"? Did Thomas Edison say, "I'll believe there is such a thing as the electric lightbulb, when I see it"? Nothing would ever have been invented with an attitude like that. I will go as far as to say every inventor, every artist has tapped into the Creative Mind of Spirit at those moments. We can all tap into Creative Mind. Universal Intelligence knows all potentiality.

We are at a very exciting time in our evolution. We are moving beyond our Human Intellect. We are connecting with our Spiritual Intelligence as we come to believe there is more to Life than just what we experience with our senses.

Continue your Growth, trust in your Divine Nature, be open to the guidance of Spirit.

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written by Spear Bing, April 14, 2008 01:17:58
And here is another article about INTELLIGENCE AND INTELLECT:

Training the intellect does not result in intelligence. Rather, intelligence comes into being when one acts in perfect harmony, both intellectually and emotionally. There is a vast distinction between intellect and intelligence. Intellect is merely thought functioning independently of emotion. When intellect, irrespective of emotion, is trained in any particular direction, one may have great intellect, but one does not have intelligence, because in intelligence there is the inherent capacity to feel as well as to reason; in intelligence both capacities are equally present, intensely and harmoniously.

...If you bring your emotions into business, you say, business cannot be well managed or be honest. So you divide your mind into compartments: in one compartment you keep your religious interest, in another your emotions, in a third your business interest which has nothing to do with your intellectual and emotional life. Your business mind treats life merely as a means of getting money in order to live. So this chaotic existence, this division of your life continues. If you really used your intelligence in business, that is, if your emotions and your thought were acting harmoniously, your business might fail. It probably would. And you will probably let it fail when you really feel the absurdity, the cruelty, and the exploitation that is involved in this way of living.

Until you really approach all of life with your intelligence, instead of merely with your intellect, no system in the world will save man from the ceaseless toil for bread.
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written by Spear Bing, April 14, 2008 01:34:53
Dear Padhma,

"Until you really approach all of life with your intelligence, instead of merely with your intellect, no system in the world will save man from the ceaseless toil for bread."

That is a telling and profound statement, isn't it?
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written by padhma, April 23, 2008 22:13:26
Dear Spear Bing,

Read your initial response. I think you have missed the point of my response to your initial comment. My response was based on what you have commented initially. Then read the subsequet comments that you have written.
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