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Saturday, 12 April 2008 11:54

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Let us pray that these MCA agent provocateurs rot in hell for seven generations. And if anything adverse does happen, let us hang the MCA people from the highest tree and leave their bodies to rot in the sun.

THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Barisan Nasional has finally recovered from the shock of the 8 March 2008 general election. Okay, it took one month, but at least they finally recovered, whatever it may be.

As soon as the full results of the general election came in, I remarked that the earthquake has hit Malaysia (some call it a Tsunami but it was actually more than that). My wife, wise as she always is, commented that the earthquake is not what brings the building down. The aftershocks will. So wait for the aftershocks, said my wife.

The last few days, we have been seeing the aftershocks and I told my wife that she was right. Now we are seeing the real damage of 8 March 2008. Again, in her wisdom, my wife remarked that we are yet to see the full blast of the aftershocks. This is only the quivering. The crash is yet to come. Wait for it, she said, Aiyah, susahlah married to such a smart wife.

Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has been making his rounds to meet Umno and Barisan Nasional leaders on the ground. Two days ago he was in Penang and Kedah. Before that he went to Sarawak and Sabah. Yesterday he was in Johor. And currently, even as you read this, he is in Selangor. And the message he received from the ground is all the same. He has to personally take responsibility for the general election debacle and must resign his post.

The people up north told Abdullah in no uncertain terms that he must go and the government has to be handed over to his Deputy, Najib Tun Razak, with Muhyiddin Yassin as the new Deputy. Heavens! In that case I would rather have Khairy Jamaluddin as Prime Minister. At least he is young, brilliant, and has a vision for this country. I mean, if it is going to be just replacing one Umno slimeball for another, then it might as well be an Umno slimeball who has brains (unless we can kick out Umno altogether and put the lovely Dr Wan Azizah as the new Prime Minister).

Mahathir once remarked that his richest Minister is Muhyiddin, who was then the Menteri Besar of Johor. Muhyiddin? I thought the richest Minister would be the then Minister of Finance, Daim Zainuddin. Apparently, Mahathir did not think so. One Umno leader then quipped that Daim may have a lot of money, but all that money belongs to Umno. Daim is just Umno’s trustee. So that would make Muhyiddin richer than Daim.

Anyway, that has now changed. Through a sleight of hand, Umno’s RM42 billion became Daim’s personal wealth when he quietly transferred all the money overseas during the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis. Daim ended up owning ten banks or so in Africa and Eastern Europe and Umno ended up broke. That made Mahathir mad as hell and this was the main reason for the fallout between Mahathir and Daim.

Aiyah, whose fault is it all? What do you expect when you ask the fox to guard the henhouse? For sure the fox will whack all the chickens. And then, when the chickens are all gone, you get angry. But is this not the job of the fox, to eat the chickens?

Enough digressing. Let us get back to the story of Abdullah’s roadshow. Umno Johor told Abdullah that he has to go. There are no two ways about it. Again, my wise wife said the night before that that Johor will be the real test for Abdullah. Johor is Umno’s kubu (fortress). If Umno Johor stands behind Abdullah, then he has a good chance of fighting his detractors. But if Umno Johor too turns on Abdullah, then he is finished.

And yesterday Umno Johor told Abdullah that they want him to officially announce his resignation. They left it to him when he will do that. They gave him an ultimatum but did not insist on a timeline. However, it should not be too long into the future. That’s it. Umno Johor has abandoned Abdullah. And, without Johor, Abdullah is dead meat. There is no way he can continue clinging onto power. Umno Johor wants him to openly declare his exit plan with a succession plan attached.

In the meantime, Umno and MCA have embarked on a psy-war campaign. Gerakan and MIC are running around like headless chickens and have yet to decide what to do. There is a good chance Gerakan, together with a couple more Barisan Nasional component members, might consider leaving the ruling coalition and join Pakatan Rakyat. But talk is still ongoing and no decision has been made yet. Gerakan, just like PPP and MIC, were practically demolished in the recent general election so they really have nothing to offer the opposition. At least MCA has 15 Parliament seats -- and that is half the 30 that Pakatan Rakyat needs to form the new federal government.

Okay, back to Umno’s and MCA’s psy-war campaign. Umno is going around telling the Malays that ‘Malay states have fallen to Chinese governments’. This is meant to play on the sentiments and raise the anger of the Malays. Umno even went so far as to say that the March 2008 general election is a repeat of the May 1969 general election -- so maybe a similar aftermath of the May 1969 is required this time around as well.

Aiyah, why is Umno talking about May 1969 being the same as March 2008 and that the same aftermath is needed. Okay, this statement may be veiled or disguised. But is it not dangerous to put ideas like ‘same as May 1969’, ‘same aftermath required’, and so on, into the heads of the Malays? Is all this ‘same as May 1969’ talk aimed at provoking the Malays to rise or is it meant to put fear into the hearts of the Chinese?

At first I thought this was merely meant to get the Malays to rise up in anger. But then the Malays of today are not even close to the Malays of the 1960s. So I did not think the instigation would work. Then it came to me. All this loose talk is not targeted at just the Malays. It is aimed at the Chinese as well. And this convinced me even more when MCA started talking about Islam.

Whatever Umno says will no longer work. They can talk about May 1969 and whatnot. But as long as it is the Malays who are doing the talking, Malays tak peduli and will remain calm. But if it is the Chinese who whack the Malays, in particular whack Islam, then that is another thing altogether. That can make the Malays angry.

Barisan Nasional realises that Umno can keep talking but the Malays will just turn a deaf ear. So now they are getting MCA to do the talking. And MCA is touching on an issue worse than race. They are talking about Islam. Religion is worse than race. Religion can even make people of the same race kill each other like in India, the UK, etc. So it would be more effective to whack Islam than to raise the issue of race. And if it is non-Muslims who whack Islam, then be ready for blood on the streets.

MCA is the true running dog of Umno. Sabah and Sarawak won 54 Parliament seats but they were offered only seven Cabinet posts, five mere Deputy Ministers on top of that. MCA, however, won only 15 Parliament seats but they were given 13 Cabinet positions. Another two and all the MCA Parliamentarians would be in the government. So MCA has almost as much to lose as Umno and they would be very prepared to assist Umno in this race-religious divide game just to protect their positions in the government and to remain the deputy taiko of Barisan Nasional.

Yes, we can see Umno’s sins. We can see how Umno plays the race card. We can see how Umno plays the dangerous game of racial politics. But what we don’t see is MCA also playing the more dangerous game of Islam whacking.

If there is one thing Muslims will not tolerate is insults to their religion. All you need to do is draw some cartoons of the Prophet and millions of Muslims all over the world will kill and burn. Hundreds of lives will be lost and hundreds of millions worth of property destroyed. Religion is certainly more volatile than race.

MCA had better get a grip on things. If Umno wants to talk about March 2008 being the same as May 1969, let them. Even if they want to suggest that the same ‘remedies’ as May 1969 are needed for March 2008, also let them. Malays can handle this. Malays can remain calm. Malays will not bite the bait. But stay off Islam. Whacking Islam is utmost dangerous. The Malays are capable of losing their minds and will go berserk, as Muslims all over the world have proven whenever their religion is challenged.

Okay, call the Malays irrational. Label Muslims as unreasonable. Never mind. I will agree with all that and will not dispute or rebut it. However, if you know all that, then why jolok sarang tembuan? There is no reason to whack Islam. PAS has already dropped the Islamic State issue. They have declared it is no longer on the agenda. They have stopped talking about it for four years now since the fiasco of the 2004 general election. PAS needs to keep talking about Islam to their own supporters to rebut what Umno is saying about them: that PAS has ‘betrayed’ Islam. So let them talk to their own supporters or else Umno will be ‘proven’ right and PAS’ relevance will be questioned. But MCA should not raise this as if an Islamic State equates to a Pariah State, which they very well know will rub the Malays the wrong way.

The Chinese should speak up. The Chinese should tell MCA to shut the fuck up. The Chinese should tell MCA that they trust PAS and are confident that PAS will not betray this trust. The Chinese should scream at MCA and tell that party that fights for Chinese rights that with a mere 23 seats in Parliament there is no way PAS can turn this country into an Islamic State when even Umno can’t with almost 80 seats.

Yes, Umno can’t get the Malays onto the streets. Umno can’t trigger a May 1969 ‘solution’ to the March 2008 election. So now MCA is trying to do that. Let us pray that these MCA agent provocateurs rot in hell for seven generations. And if anything adverse does happen, let us hang the MCA people from the highest tree and leave their bodies to rot in the sun.

I, for one, do not want a May 1969 ‘solution’. Most Malays, if not all, don’t as well. And we Malays curse those MCA Chinese who are prepared to see this country burn and lives sacrificed just so that they can win back ground they lost on 8 March 2008.

FOOTNOTE

By the way, today’s article is not as long as my normal pieces, which would run into five-seven pages. Many readers posted complaints in the blogs saying that my pieces are too long and touch on too many issues at the same time; so they find it very hard to comprehend what my message is.

Many blame the writer, meaning me, for not being able to transmit the ‘right’ message, although I would rather blame the Malaysian education system -- because we had to write pages upon pages of comprehension pieces when we were in lower secondary school. The English teacher would give us one incomplete sentence of one line and we would have to complete that sentence with 1,800 words. So I suppose, since the age of 13, we had been ‘trained’ to take just one word or one sentence and make a thesis out of it.

Anyway, for the sake of those who are not able to juggle many issues in their head at the same time, dissect all the many issues, deliberate the pros and cons of each issue, and then come their own conclusions based on the arguments presented, maybe they should stick to reading this column, THE CORRIDORS OF POWER. Those who enjoy being provoked, love playing the Devil’s Advocate, and get a turn on with debating (I don’t mean insult, scold, rant or rave), then they can continue reading NO HOLDS BARRED, which will tear into issues, rip your brains apart, and result in you pulling your hair out.

I understand that there are many types of Malaysians and that MALAYSIA TODAY must cater to all levels of the population. We have the preset minds -- people who have already formed an opinion even before they start reading anything. Then there are the open minds -- people who are prepared to listen to all sides of the argument. We also have the ‘fence-sitters’ -- people who would rather wait-and-see and make a decision based on who can offer the best argument. Then we have the setuju group -- people who will agree to everything that a writer says even if the writer says one thing one day and the opposite another day (which I sometimes deviously do) because they do not have a mind of their own. We also have the tak setuju group -- people who will disagree with everything the writer says because they just love disagreeing or because they don’t like the writer so they will simply disagree regardless whether the writer is right or wrong. 

I suppose this should be taken as positive and therefore a reflection that MALAYSIA TODAY has a very wide and diverse readership. But it can of course also be very difficult when preparing a ‘single item menu’ as some love certain things while others may not.

Anyway, debate on readers.

(See, even the footnote is almost a thesis).

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written by Heikal, April 12, 2008 12:10:01
This MCA have to be dumped into the trashcan of Malysian society.
They are the real danger to our multi-cultural and multi religious demographic.
Remeber during the campaign period? "Vote MCA and MIC out and Chinese and Indians will pay the price" "Will be left out of the government with no representation."

So what if there is Malaysian Islamic state? It is just a name. Non-muslims will be protected, non muslims will not be forced to wear headscarves and pork will be banned, hudud law only apply to muslims, why need to worry?

Because the MCA and MIC had failed the chinese and INdians, the comunity they claimed to represent abandon them and even become campaign volunteers for PAS, which is percieved to be a religious fanatic party. That is why MCA need to invoke such sentiments, they are losing their relvance.
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written by KUMON, April 12, 2008 12:10:47
Yes Pete, A more concise article does help. Then again, it is sometimes not possible to 'nail' an issue or make a point in precision without strenghtening an argument with so many words.

All the same, I still enjoy your articles. Can't make me pull my hair out with some of your 'info', I aint got any hair, just like you smilies/grin.gif Cheers matey!
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written by malsia1206, April 12, 2008 12:13:45
The rot in MCA started as far back when Ling Liong Sik took the helm. The cancerous cells multiply many folds during his time and Ong Ka Ting became the end victim when MCA never undergo the required surgery at thre critical period. The majority of the Chinese are now smart enough to cast them out, hopefully for perpetuity. They had not been called the 'running dogs' for nothing. The same could be said for SUPP in Sarawak. If not for the foochow factor, that Party too is as good as dead with George Chan clinging desperately as the President. MCA has never shown to be an intelligent Party. Neither do the Ex-Co. They bark when UMNO ask them too. They sit when UMNO ordered them too. And every now and then they could only meow meow to make themselves seen to be heard. The majority of the Chinese would not be sorry to see their demise. A weak leadership is no better than no leadership at all.
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written by PakPandir, April 12, 2008 12:14:28
Rakyat has made it clear they firmly reject politicians with past skeletons in the closet.
With Najis and Muhyiddin with all these questions unanswered, there it goes again. AAB is just not able to understand .. is'nt he ... or is he also dreaming about skeletons himself ?

MCA can be thrown into the rubbish bin , period.
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written by qitaro, April 12, 2008 12:15:25
Good article Pete.

Those MCA sorhai are still in denial mode. Why can't they just accept the simple fact that we don't need losers like them to represent us.

What is wrong with the Chinese community supporting PAS? At least we know PAS is more reliable and trustworthy than them.

As far as the urban voters are concerned, MCA is passe.

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written by hiryu, April 12, 2008 12:17:55
Good one RPK!! The Chinese must learn to trust PAS, heck, they've been trusting those UMNO/MCA bunch for the past 50 years! If the Chinese (or Indian) community wanted to have some reservation on trusting PAS, it's fine but just give them benefit of the doubt for now and decide on the next GE. Rally behind the PR and tell those MCA scum off!! I'm very sure that current PAS is a more open bunch (blame it on the years of bad portraying by MSM as a fanatic party) and they are more than able to be a good partner in PR for the sake of all Malaysians.

Lets stop all this religion bashing, be it Islam or other religions in Malaysia. Sit down, listen to the real explanation (not from ppl who are more than willing to cause trouble for their own sake) instead of jolok ANY sarang tebuan!! Go on guys, tell those bastards off and and show that politic of fear is over!!
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written by James Loh, April 12, 2008 12:24:07
http://www.mca.org.my/MCA/ContactUs.aspx

This is the link for MCA. I've send my complaint to MCA already. Now is your turn to complaint MCA. Do ask all your friend complaint them through this link.
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written by heavenwrites, April 12, 2008 12:24:48
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written by doggone, April 12, 2008 12:25:05
MCA has been feeding off the grave train for so long they have lost the ability to think. Just like their counterparts in the BN coalition. All the leaders have only gravy in their head literally speaking. They shat their brains a long time ago.

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written by CCChuah, April 12, 2008 12:25:15
MCA, MIC, Gerakan not relevent anymore. Not worth mentioning at all ever since 8 March 2008. A matter of time before they close shop for good
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written by malaysianohope, April 12, 2008 12:29:13
I am a Chinese and I do not consider MCA as representing me for they represent selfish scumbags who only know how to make money at the expense of others, just like their big taiko UMNO. If they use Islam bashing as a tool to stir troubles I will personally hold them responsible and to call them to account including the main culprits, the Ong brothers. I hope other past MCA leaders can get them out coz they do not represent the Chinese but themselves.

Btw Abang Pete please continue with your style of writing for I've no problem with it. Anyevent if anyone has problems just ask them to go elsewhere.

Have a nice dirty weekend (just joking)!
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written by Raja Chulan, April 12, 2008 12:33:01
Why blame just AA Badawi, every level of leadership with the component BN are jointly and severally liable for failing to fulfil the just expectation of the rakyat.

In 2004 the rakyat gave the mandate to each and every leader of the BN component parties and not just AA Badawi to bring about positive changes to Malaysia.

As they have failed the constituents, I therefore urge every Malaysian to call for the resignation all Exco leaders of each component party of BN.

May Allah Bless Malaysia

Manusia Merancang Tuhan Menentukan
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written by sampalee, April 12, 2008 12:33:05
Critical time require drastic actions and all the bn dogs and trojan horses will be responding flat out as umno pull out all plug.Now it is pretty obvious why mca and karpal are singing in chorus 'when is the cockeral going to declare it is not going to lay egg'[asking the impossible just for sensation,often call shit stirring]
All the Rakyat especially the chineses understood the simple logic put over by RPK on MT and at the various cheramah,often to tunderous applause never seen on malaysian scene.
The chinese will not just mca to shut up,but also individual the like of karpal to swollow their own shit.
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written by kksam, April 12, 2008 12:35:32
When Umno speaks, no malays listen. When MCA speaks no chinese listen. Now MCA speaks to malays and Umno speaks to chinese. But i had abandon BN altogether, said whatever **** they want, but it's just useless.
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written by kksam, April 12, 2008 12:36:34
No worries Pete, that ******* Ong dynasty will tumble down soon, very soon.
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written by hiro, April 12, 2008 12:36:45
My response:

1) I urge all my friends in MCA to quit the party

2) I urge bloggers and all netizens to step up our vigilance, and continue spreading the message that UMNO/MCA is trying to stir up racial strive in Malaysia in order to win back power

3) I urge right thinking BN MPs to seriously consider defecting to Pakatan Rakyat without condition - there is only once in a lifetime opportunity to do something according to your conscience - don't screw the chance

4) I think the opposition should stop looking inwards as in trying to build up the economy and development of the opposition held states - don't give BN the chance to go on the offensive - I think this is as important as any other time for the opposition to keep whacking BN. If you like to have Pak Lah around because at least he is carrying out certain reforms, then you must whack the others like MCA - especially OKT and OKC - they are now the biggest liability in the country to secure peace and harmony. At least Gerakan has the objectivity to come out and say what is right for the moment, negating punishments that UMNO Penang and Azalina is trying to do against opposition held states. But MCA is a lost cause, taking their vindictiveness to another dangerous level.
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written by Robin Goodfellow, April 12, 2008 12:39:45
Dear YM RPK.

Haven't you heard? MCA has a new Party Song to revive the morale of MCA party members.

It has already been approved by UMNO.

It goes like this :

FRISKIE Dogs Are Full Of Tricks

Hop Hop Hop Fetchin A Stick!


You might want to get a cat, ya know? smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by kksam, April 12, 2008 12:39:52
one more thing, MCA had lost the chinese confidence, so whatever **** they said was their own opinion, it does not represents the view of the chinese community. If there's solution like May 13, then please go and target the MCA men, not us on the road who shouted Makkal Sakthi and BERSIH BERSIH!!!!!
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written by Tan FM, April 12, 2008 12:50:09
Dear YM RPK, et al
Know full well what u mean about our 'Training' in Sec school. Et tu, Brute ??

Indeed, they (canines of the worst,pariah,kind)are digging a potential Grave for the rest of us 'innocent' Malaysians; let's Hope & Pray that they themselves will fall into this grave, not us ??

TQ
PT
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written by orangmsia, April 12, 2008 12:50:42
Dear PRK,

MCA are the 'black hand' behind the bail out of all the four chinese newspaper: Sinchew, Nanyang, Chinepress, Kwang Ming. So now we can have headlines on PAS and islamic states everyday in Sinchew (Maybe they wanna cover the news of Badawi going down in UMNO?). While UMNO keep using Utusan/Berita Harian/TV3 to spread news about pig farms in Selangor. They are too clever. But just wanna tell you both UMNO/MCA the people are fed up with your old tactics.

So RPK when are you going to talk about MIC?
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written by Kuku Burung, April 12, 2008 12:51:42
MCA has always held the Chinese at ransom, meaning, they claim to represent the Chinese. Without the MCA, they say, the Chinese are doomed. They fight for the Chinese; they speak for the Chinese; they serve the Chinese; they are the sovereign heads of the Chinese... They can fool some Chinese for sometimes, but they cannot fool all the Chinese all the times. They are the rotten fish-head, to the core. I am ashame that they refer themselves as "Malaysian Chinese Association" -- well, they are not, period. They are partners in crime with UMNO. Hang them, like RPK said, even better hang them upside down.
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written by andywongkch, April 12, 2008 12:52:54
We all know MCA is simply he runnign dog of UMNO even before march 8, 2008. If UMNO and MCA are thinking that they can have a repeat of may 13, 1969, think again! There is no chance coz if it were to happen, it would have happened right after the election result.

Again I need to remind all the readers May 13, 1969 didnt happen by accident. It was SET UP and Staged by the shameless Umno leaders. Majority of the Malaysa didnt even that to happen at all.

I urge the current 5 state govt of PR to work harder and show the commoners that can run the show better with accountability and efficiency. Lets NOT be distracted by getting into UMNO or BN internal struggle. They have to sort out the garbage themselves and we should play any part on it. In reality, most of the umno members care less about the current political instability. They are more concerned as to how best they can run away with the ill-gotten wealth outside malaysia.

When it comes time for PR to run the federal govt, it is my hope that we shall prosecute all these skunks and recover the wealth.
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written by micon02, April 12, 2008 12:54:00
OKT, NST UMNO would be held responsible & accountable should anything happen to the rakyats of such bashing on Islam.

Yes, they are the biggest liability in the country.
Can someone do something?
PDRM can't do much, or may be refer the matter to the Agong or Sultan of Perak, Raja Nazrin

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written by DezMalaysia, April 12, 2008 12:56:22
God bless Malaysia, god damn UMNO & MCA to Hell ! Wish them all HAM KAR CHAN !
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written by novrising, April 12, 2008 12:57:03
IDIOTIC, IGNORANT, THICK FACE BOMBARDMENT.

Every word uttered and action taken by this so called leaders is out of sheer stupidity and ignorance. And they go on the defensive by saying gibberish with a full thick face.

Well, "so called leaders" I have news for you, WE ARE NOT IDIOTS, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IGNORANT, WE SURELY DON'T HAVE A THICK FACE. So, stop all this nonsense, buck up and accept reality. Study and learn from the situation and move on. This is basic leadership qualities.

BN, if you still don't get it, get tips from DSAI.

P.S. For MCA, on the article above, it is suggested that the Chinese should tell off MCA. But, my personal view, since we are and have been moving towards a truly united voice, lets start pissing at this bastards regardless of race and religion.


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written by Wisdom above, April 12, 2008 12:59:30
All 4 BN components below still promote using racial platforms.

MCA, MIC, Gerakan not relevant anymore.

PPP simply vanished & lost its appeal .

I am not sure whether PBB,SUPP,PBS ,& other east Malaysia parties still promote racial platforms ?

Those still preach race based views are living in the Past.

Like Old Soldiers, they will just 'fade away'.

Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

United Malaysian.

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written by Don Corleone, April 12, 2008 13:00:57
MCA is merely playing on the sentiments expressed in several blogs by DAP supporters that cooperating with PAS is akin to cooperating with the devil. DAP hardline extremists are going round saying that they would rather give up the state administrations in Perak and Selangor back to BN that have coalition governments.

With "friends" like these in Pakatan, who needs enemies ?
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written by Don Corleone, April 12, 2008 13:03:06
These are the same idiots who say that it is a cardinal sin to attract crossovers from BN parties. They say it is the end of democracy. They say it is OK for BN to attract crossovers from the Opposition, but not the other way round. They say that it is sinful to try to wrest control of the federal government this way. Bunch of losers - hopefully they are in the minority.
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written by archie, April 12, 2008 13:21:41
MCA needs a diversion from its internal power struggle. Still, it's good to warn them not to play with fire.
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written by megahyper, April 12, 2008 13:24:21
"In that case I would rather have Khairy Jamaluddin as Prime Minister."

Aye RPK. Replacing a doozer with a more corrupted sub-mariner opportunist is even worse for the nation. May Allah save Malaysia.

"Let us pray that these MCA agent provocateurs rot in hell for seven generations"

Buddhism believe on "what goes around comes around" and it serves them right. These ****ers dont do any good except keep bashing Islam for their selfish sakes.

PAS Perak MB can grant land titles to long term villagers in less than 2 weeks in power while all these MCA jokers dont do shit except provoke, divide and rule (with AMNO), as well as barking nonsense for 50 years.

Hello MCA and OKT, if you have some humanity left in you, please dont stir shit to provoke an already muddled situation.

I would suggest dissolve the party as a better option.
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written by Huador, April 12, 2008 13:31:49
Dollah's problem is our problem. His days is numbered. He will step down and enjoying his honeymoon and catch up with sleep. He can enjoy his hobby after his retirement.

However, when Dollah is going to enjoy his sleep we will have Najib or Mahyuddin managing the virgin. One guy will rape and kill the virgin for his lust while the other guy will prostitute the virgin for money. Either way we are ****ed.
MCA, MIC and PPP will be the barking dogs making sure that their bosses are free to torn the country apart.MCA is now taking over the job of UMNO hitting PAS on Hudud Law. This is what a good dog normally do. They just follow their master.

Unless wisdom people in UMNO like Tengku Razaleigh doing something Malaysians will be ****ed big time this round. The othe roptions is for Pakatan Rakyat taking over the Federal Government. We the rakyat must help to chase the dogs like MCA and MIC from barking and creating disharmony. WE DONT WANT BLOODBATH JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE DOGS BARKING WITH THEIR TAILS UNDER THEIR BALLs.
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written by JaguhKampung, April 12, 2008 13:36:36
Dear RPK,

What's your view on MCA's proposal for Mualaf Keluar Islam?
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written by bananachinese, April 12, 2008 13:37:24
Sir,

How come my brother (who is in the know) do not know about this nefarious plan?

I asked him about this and he practically rolled on the floor laughing. He told me that MCA has always been clearly against hudud and its natural to continue the stand. He said pity those people who always see conspiracy in whatever MCA tried to do, role of MCA has always been the "woh si low" (the bridgebuilder) between whoever fighting/got issues.

Let me check somemore when he's recovered...
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written by sheppardlight, April 12, 2008 13:39:59
I spoke to some malay and chinese friends (in their twenties)recently on the current situation of the country, and to some of my fathers friends as well. My malay friends seems very concerned and believe that the chinese are going to take control of the country. My chinese friends, most of them are not really bothered of whats happening. My fathers friends both the malays and chinese are just very concern about two things. First, the stability of the economy, especially some of them are in bussiness, because they cant afford to loose few years before things get settled down as they are not as young as i am. They, i suppose are much comfortable with the already established situations and network they are in although they know that many things are not right and they dont agree.

I guess what RPK wrote in this article is quite accurate. That the MCA will play on the issue of islam to provoke the malays and to the chinese community, very concern about money.

RPK, i personally think that having long articles is ok. Its what you write and the way you write makes me want to read and always feel its too litle. What i dont like is when i see the article is going to end.
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written by temenggong, April 12, 2008 13:40:15
Panglima RPK,

If only you knew the internal fights going on in MCA. I won't be surprised if there are clashes involving gangsters.

Something is bound to happen within a month. Lets just sit back and watch. No need for us to get involved.

My advice to MCA and MIC representatives is DON'T visit the chinese and indians respectively now. Haven't they noticed the cold stares already? Chairs and shoes will be thrown at them. It is waiting to explode!

Malays should just lay back and see whats happening.
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written by anallu, April 12, 2008 13:40:16
Dear YM RPK,

Please continue writing in your own style. Your writing is erudite and quite persuasive. But please change your format to a more computer friendly system. I am an 89 year old man and it makes me dizzy to read your pages! I have requested you many times for this change. I hope you will show mercy on aged fellows like me!
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written by Thomas47, April 12, 2008 13:44:50
Remember the day when we were first taught to memorize certain word like 'A' is for apple and 'B' is for ball. That day is long gone and dead. For me anyway. Now we have advanced further from there to A for ampuh, angkuh, antagonized etc.

My point is we have to be able to use that piece lumpy meat we have up there inside our 'tengkorak' called 'otak', then we only can consider ourselves matured and hopefully the government will give us their due respect.. smilies/angry.gif
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written by dieselngan, April 12, 2008 13:58:40
Many blame the writer, meaning me, for not being able to transmit the ‘right’ message, although I would rather blame the Malaysian education system -- because we had to write pages upon pages of comprehension pieces when we were in lower secondary school.
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RPK, I would not blame the Malaysian education system "during your time", but the current Malaysia Education system which was somehow screw up, especially on the English subject. smilies/cry.gif
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written by middlepath, April 12, 2008 14:12:45
Yes, we must put those racial politician into the burning fire, like the BBQ pig, no matter who are they. Malaysia do not have place for racial politic. The Paklah, better start to abolish the racial "forms" do away with those forms that require us to fill up what "race", we will just fill up the name, citizenship, do not fill up about race and also religion. Best still, if the officer insist that we fill up that column, we should make sure we fill up as the main race, and the main religion.
We all malaysian, must start to do that :
1) whenever we fill up any application forms, Do not fill up the column "race", just put the citizenship as Malaysian, ignore the "race" and ignore the "religion", they dont need to know what is our race and religion, that has nothing to do with the government office, the bank, and etc.
2) As we continue to boycott the MSM media, due to their biased reporting,
3) we continue to stop eating the nasi kandar for many good reasons, such as : expensive, high cholestrol that lead to the diabetes and cardio heart problem, or kidney failure
4)must continue to stop people from going to the MCA function, MIC, Gerakan, Umno function, but we can accept their money and aids, they are the arrogant bunch with greedy money politic
5)should start to join the PR and help them to be successful, so that they dont lost their identity like the Umno,BN politicians
6) MCA running dog and the Umno will start to go back to communal politicking, and incite hatred for racial problem, we must make sure all malaysian remain cool and caring towards each other, prepare to put a helping hand as human will help human, do away and shy away from racial way of hatred or Umno way of doing things. Please get into the habit of humane, humility that help each other as fellow human being, we must start to help raise our kids to be colorless. no more, no more racial base policy or way of looking at each other, please help all human being irregardless of race !!! Please !
god bless Malaysia, and lets move forward with new frontier,
PR is the way going forward ! stick together we will have new vision and future, so much better, we have to pay a price to get it, we have wasted and lost 50 years under the umno dominated BN, useless, communal non universal value ideology ! we are not competitive, and we must move away to the merit base, colorless policy !
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written by turun padang, April 12, 2008 14:21:06
Many blame the writer, meaning me, for not being able to transmit the ‘right’ message, although I would rather blame the Malaysian education system

I understand that there are many types of Malaysians and that MALAYSIA TODAY must cater to all levels of the population. We have the preset minds -- people who have already formed an opinion even before they start reading anything. Then there are the open minds -- people who are prepared to listen to all sides of the argument. We also have the ‘fence-sitters’ -- people who would rather wait-and-see and make a decision based on who can offer the best argument. Then we have the setuju group -- people who will agree to everything that a writer says even if the writer says one thing one day and the opposite another day (which I sometimes deviously do) because they do not have a mind of their own. We also have the tak setuju group -- people who will disagree with everything the writer says because they just love disagreeing or because they don’t like the writer so they will simply disagree regardless whether the writer is right or wrong.
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RPK,

Great understanding on your customer need and level of mentality.

Indeed i agree with you that MALAYSIA Education System is not helping at all in producing rakyat that know how to think & question.

By writing in a way that an average joe will understand really help.

Once, my ninang (who's the dean of La salle University) told me:
You can educate a person to the highest level possible, they could be learned and smart BUT still not WISE.

So lucky you, to have a wise wife.

-BE YET WISER-
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written by PakPandir, April 12, 2008 14:25:58
How can anyone trust "More-Hidden" ?
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written by ibabonma, April 12, 2008 14:30:55
During our school days, we were trained to write long essays, in them we displayed our proficiency in juggling with words seldom being spoken or written. We were practically forced to put on show of our dynamism and strength in our vocabulary - ‘as strong as the banyan tree’.

Even in punishments, I recalled, upon my deliberate nonattendance ‘tuang’ of my science class, I was forced to fill up the whole of my exercise book with a citation, “A catalyst is a substance which hastened the speed of a chemical reaction” … sampai hendak tercabut tangan ..sampai sekarang pun masih fresh in my memory (I hated then that skinny, anak dara tua, Miss Lee! I pray she still is alive and in good health!).

Just like RPK, I have the habit of lengthy writings so that I can simplify matters for the benefit of my readers.


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written by densemy, April 12, 2008 14:31:48
Is it too much to ask them to come up with something new and positive about the future of Malaysia. Is it too much to ask them to inspire Malaysians to think of the future instead of living in fear of the past

All the time they dwell in the past, reliving old "glories" and falling back on the tried and proven weaknesses ... race and religion

... and meanwhile PR is busy planning and working for the future
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written by liliwg, April 12, 2008 14:46:51
Just proven that behind a great man there is a wise woman.
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written by liliwg, April 12, 2008 14:49:16
Now I understand what politiks is all about.
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written by Navigator, April 12, 2008 14:49:28
RPK,

You are very far sighted. Hats off to you. Today, the government announced that it will try to recover the student loans - obviously from Malays, who else. It wants to punish them for voting against UMNO. This will antagonise the educated Malays even further.

One more thing: Can Karpal Singh shut his big mouth? Whether we like it or not, the Malays are the majority race and sooner or later, it is the Malays who decide if they want a Muslin state or not. Karpal will not be around to see it and there is nothing he can do about it. He is the one who is going to make the Malays mad by his stupid speeches. He is as bad as Mahathir. Maybe Mahathir paid him to start this anti-Islam thing.
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written by cwy, April 12, 2008 16:29:37
I enjoy reading most articles presented here and I don’t miss reading each and every
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written by cwy, April 12, 2008 16:32:58
I enjoy reading most articles presented here and I don’t miss each and every article under ‘no holds barred’ and ‘corridors of power’.
It is interesting to note that some comments, here and there, not necessarily under these two headings, are just too long, perhaps the commentators want to outshine the writers.( And it could be the reason that RPK tend to write longer and longer article .)
RPK, you are a great thinker and writer! And you are a good speaker too! ( I’m not flattering you and I know you are not easily flattered too!)
I agree with many ‘constructive’ complaints that you are writing too long and too many
in a short period and a little space.
Why not those excellent commentators write some articles too so as to relieve RPK who is so productive ,and maybe overloaded?
Cheers!
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written by wiltda13, April 12, 2008 16:52:31
Hehe.. They scared shaite. One by one from them walk out from the party.

When the PAS finish about Islamic State and concentrated on Charities State, the other party will sing the RACE & RELIGION song. Wtf should I say.

Read on in the paper edition of Harakah BIL 1357 16-30 April 2008 in Mohamad Sabu column, he reported that Guan Eng said that he will rule in which it will took on Khalifah Umar Abdul Aziz example during meeting with contractor.

"Pada malam itu, saya berbual agak panjang dengannya sambil menikmati nasi kandar. Saya menyebut pemerintahan Khalifah Abdul Aziz tentang keadilan sosial yang diwujudkan oleh beliau. Falsafah keadilan sosial Umar Abdul Aziz dibawa ke Eropah dan dilaksanakan di sana - Mohd Sabu".

"Alangkah terkejutnya saya, semasa Guan Eng bertemu denga para kontraktor (majlis taklimat), beliau menyebut akan memerintah seperti Umar Abdul Aziz. Beliau akan cuba memberi layanan yang adil kepada semua penduduk Pulau Pinang - Mohd Sabu".

Now. What MCA will say about this? smilies/wink.gif
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written by lampard, April 12, 2008 17:35:42
RAJA PET,

CHINESE ARE NOT FOND OF SHOUTING AND SCREAMING OR TAKE TO THE STREET... MCA IS ALREADY A LONG, LONG GONE HISTORY TO CHINESE. MCA HAS NEVER BEEN A LOVE LOSS TO THE CHINESE CLANS. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TROUBLE TO INFORM THE MALAYS THAT 99% CHINESE RESPECT ISLAM AND INSYALLAH WE ALL WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND CAN LIVE IN HARMONY AND THE OTHER 1% IN MCA RESPECT ONLY UMNO.

WALAIKUMSALAM
CHINESE LADY.
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written by defendermalaysia, April 12, 2008 18:03:48
As until todays, all leaders of BN refuse to admit the reason why chinese, poor malays,indians, lawyers,christians, buddhists, hindus,ordinary people, hawkers,Mathair supporters,frustrated UMNO members,frustred MCA members voted for PR. All of BN leaders are still in denial mode. Anybody on the streets can tell you arragont UMNO bastards why we vote for PR. MCA and Gerakan are both trying to outwit each other into trying to bodek UMNO. That makes UMNO more arragont. Up to such a point that even UMNO youth president and his deputy can warn and hantam both MCA and Gerakan president. My advise to MCA, you can close shop in Penang and Perak as you are no longer revelent in these 2 states. PR govt in Perak has already solve the new village title problem within 50 days in power whereby you cannot solve this problem with BN durng the 50 years partnership with UMNO in the BN govt. So the people in Perak cannot be con by you again.As for Gerakan, you will end up like PPP.
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written by Raja Petra, April 12, 2008 18:16:15
Dear Chaptokam, I know exactly how you feel. I too many times feel exactly the same way when MT readers whack Malays and the NEP because of what 100 top Umno people do though there are 3.5 million Umno members and 16 million other Malays who do not benefit from all this raping and plundering disguised as the NEP.
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written by Raja Petra, April 12, 2008 18:51:32
Dear freeman, I agree wholeheartedly. And the police use their positions to make money illegally and the Parliamentarians/State Assemblymen use their postions to make money illegally and I propose that we also abolish the police, Parliament and State Assemblies and just let the Sultans with their private armies run this country.
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written by bananachinese, April 12, 2008 18:54:17
{Ahem, I am typing this out because my friend is dictating to me to reply to YM Raja Petra:}

Dear sir,

I am a friend of bananachinese.
I totally don't agree YM RPK scolding and cursing MCA.
Reason: DS Ong KT is repeating MCA's stand (secular, monarchy constitutional country) in his speech in response to PAS deputy spiritual leader Datuk Dr Haron Din's statement in the party's mouthpiece, Harakah Daily that PAS would amend the constitution and turn Malaysia into an Islamic state if it held control of the federal government. Aren't you aware MCA today starts talking like what you demand of a politician to do?
Why should there be issue of MCA being use by UMNO? Why, they have been quarreling over the same issue before. It has nothing to do with kowtow to UMNO! It is just MCA more more out spoken today over this issue. Do you think MCA like to see Malaysia in chaos ? No ! Some more you always said Chinese always kiasu....
YM, Ong's speech is purely to bring out party stand - Nothing against Islam, no disrespect to Islam (full respect to all Malaysians, all religions) and to reiterate Federal Constitution. Not linked with UMNO's May 13.

Thank you.
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written by choong, April 12, 2008 19:45:52
Dear YM RPK,

I have no love for MCA or BN. However, I believe they are entitled to their opinions so long as they realise they are responsible for all the statements they made. Hence if these expressed opinions threaten the national security, I believe the Govt should not hesitate to arrest these agent provocateurs. In fact, why it has not been done since yesterday is something that still bogs me until now.
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written by adisi, April 12, 2008 20:48:20
Ok now boys and girls.

You've heard it, seen it and know to what extend this ugly situation can turn into.

I call upon all responsible citizen of Malaysia to act. Act now. Talk only will not do any good. Blogging, well, to some extend may help but is still not good enough.

Engage... Talk... Reach out... to all your loved ones, family members, friends those that are close and afar... calm them down... ensure that whatever these selfish bastards' messages do not infiltrate their minds.

For those going back to your kampungs or hometown, please do the same.

Act what is within our power i.e. to talk to those close to you. That’s how people’s power work. I've done my part, how about you readers here?

Talking alone will not work. Act. Do it peacefully. We are all peaceful creatures. They can't scare us anymore. Act now!

Ameen.
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written by pillars, April 12, 2008 21:37:39
Dear RPK,



What happened on March 8 is phenomenal. And I think MT and you had a big part of it. Congrats. I beg you to continue writing, dun give up on us, as I am sure one day people will be 'deaf' anway, meaning unable to hear anymore any dogs barking. Or .. it will be good if people are able to take any dogs barking as a lullaby. We need to tune our ears when listen to BNs crappy songs.



Or people just dun react anymore to sensitives subjects (race, religion). That would be a dream come true.



Why waste time to argue about pig farm, khalwat, or other unbelievable matters when there are more important things, like education or global warming.



BTW, when the world leaders talking about global warming, I dun see any leaders from here take this subject seriously. Or I missed it ???



Enjoy your writing as always.

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written by apasalahku, April 12, 2008 22:04:04
very clever RPK but i see through your writing even though all the idiots here don't.

1)MCA didn't whack Islam. Ong Ka Ting whacked PAS, as many have done. But you created the impression that it did, and scared the beezesus out of your guillible readers
2) PAS did not drop its Islamic State from its agenda. Never did. Hadi Awang just publicly resigned to the fact that they won't get the majority to implement it.

I guess you've achieved your goal of promoting PAS, the PR underdog. Now that so many have fallen for it, i hope you can now respond to this. smilies/cool.gif
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written by bogeyman, April 12, 2008 22:24:47
RPK,

If i may digress a bit here, some sources claim that the CM of Sarawak is the richest.
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written by bogeyman, April 12, 2008 23:04:08
Then we have the setuju group -- people who will agree to everything that a writer says even if the writer says one thing one day and the opposite another day (which I sometimes deviously do) because they do not have a mind of their own.


RPK, i call them your fart-sniffers in your column ' The brains sees what it wants to see. And you can see them again in this column. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

bananachinese,you may have something there, but i think gyshow has the better argument.

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written by Raja Petra, April 12, 2008 23:50:38
Dear bananachinese, your explanation, justification, or whatever, would be valid if:

1) MCA did not challange PKR and DAP to take a stand on the Islamic State issue giving the impression that MCA is trying to trap or provoke PKR and DAP into entering the fray so that they fight among themselves.

2) MCA challenged Umno when Mahathir announced on 29 September 2001 that Malaysia is already an Islamic State and remind Mahathir-Umno the same way it is trying to remind PAS.

3) MCA objected to the plan to merge the common law and syariah courts.

4) MCA opposed the ban on the Bahasa Malaysia Bibles.

5) MCA opposed the ban on the building of churches.

6) MCA opposed the demolition of the Orang Asli churches and Hindu temples.

7) MCA spoke up on the Umno statement condemning Malaysian Indians and Chinese who entered Masjid Negara because they are considered 'unclean' whereas non-Muslim foreign tourists who are equally 'unclean' are allowed to enter the mosque.

smilies/cool.gif ......and so on and so forth...... (really want me to go on?)
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written by ahmisk, April 12, 2008 23:56:51
I'm not sure what's so new about MCA's moves.

UMNO tries to make the Malays hate the Chinese.

MCA tries to make the Chinese fear the Malays.

Its been going on forever.

I dont think MCA is esclating their rhetoric. They've always talked this way anyway.

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written by romerz, April 13, 2008 00:27:09
RPK,

I refer to Chaptokam’s post and agree with him fully that don’t be surprised when another ‘tsunami’ hits UMNO.

Please advise your readers that there are many within the party and previously apolitical Malaysians of Chinese descent who are working silently and furiously to replace the present leadership of MCA and Gerakan and bring them out of the BN.

It would go a long way if you could direct your criticisms at those who uttered such foolish and insensitive comments rather than the silent membership at large. The top leadership is desperately trying to drum up support from the older uneducated grassroots members in a desperate bid to retain their relevance.

Like Chaptokam alluded to, there are many of us who will not stand for MCA or Gerakan to continue pandering to UMNO to our own detriment. We hear the rakyat.

Maybe we are not prepared yet to throw our weight behind the PR but we’re trying to offer an alternative to the many who are caught between ‘a stone and a hard place’. We are trying to create an independent 3rd alternative as a first step.

Even this 1st step is already fraught with difficulties because ‘fear’ is so ingrained after 50 years of communal politics.

We also want the same things for Malaysia; peace, justice and equal opportunities for ALL Malaysians.
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written by Milo, April 13, 2008 00:45:15
One reason why the Malaysian chinese talk more of UMNO than MCA is probably because, the MCA has became a non-entity in their mind. (I can't speak for the Indians or on MIC, as I am not qualified) In some way, and ironically, that spared the MCA from being whacked as hard as if they were a party counted. The majority of the Malaysian chinese today will believe more in PRK (a party is headed by a malay muslim, and will probably always will be) than MCA anythime of the day. They have no issue of a Muslim malay leading the country.

As for Islam, the Malaysian chinese is not really concern of its dominance at all. They are so used to living near a mosque and hearing the prayers 5 times a day that it is already part of daily life. On the ground, they will have no complain if muslim employees take time off to pray, even though they are not given the same priviledge of special time off to pray to theirs. No chinese boss will ever think of preventing even the lowest of muslim staff to perform their religious duties. They will even go all the way to ensure their fellow muslim colleagues have assess to halal food in functions and even in their own home if visited by non-muslims - 10 out of 10 times! Many took "muslim" food on a daily basis, eating in Malay restorans and Mamak stalls without a wince or habouring a single thought tof why can't the muslims do the same. In other words, the dominance of Islam in malaysia was never an issue with the chinese and probably others.

But UMNO actually spoiled Islam not only in the minds of the chinese, but also all others, not because they built more mosques or give the religion more prominance. It was because UMNO began to increasingly impose by force their religious faith and values on others. And non-muslims saw MCA and MIC were powerless to stop the erosion of their sacred right. So they hated UMNO and downgrade the MCA & MIC (both non-muslim BN parties) to non-entity status. It is so bad at the ground level, the chinese do not even want to waste time complaining about the MCA.

Pete was right when he said malays can run riot if they perceived Islam were attacked. But Islam was never hated nor attacked, and never will be in the daily lives of Malaysians. It is the UMNO-led BN who was hated and attacked because they unnecessarily violate others' religious rights in the name of Islam. The court decisions, the body snatching incidence, rights, destruction of temples are but some we can watch daily.

If a leader of another country were to impose the values of say Christinity on Muslims in the slightest way, you can expect an even worse reaction. Why do you think there is constant violence in Southern Thailand, Philippines and Tibet? It is about religion! Why are muslims killing muslims in Iraq? It is about religion! Religion is so sensitive because it is concerned about living in eternity. Everyone knows he can only live here for up to around 80 years. For many religious people, it is worth it to cut short some years for the sake of their eternal life. Why do you think there are suicide bombers? The action of UMNO destroyed the Image of Islam in the minds of others. They won the battle exteriorly, but war, which is the war of the minds. They reacted to UMNO because the party already "acted" and "acted unfairly, blantantly and unconstitutionally", but the same people are merely "weary" of PAS national Islamic state because it is still a "concept" in the leaders' mind and in Kelantan they have not impose the religion harshly.

Look at Perak, which is not a declared Islamic state. In one strategic move of giving out land titles to the deserving, the Muslim-MB of PAS probably won more fans for Islam than all forcing put together in the last 50 years! The BN leaders never learn, do they?...sigh...
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written by Raja Petra, April 13, 2008 00:49:53
Dear romerz, thank you and sorry for targetting the silent majority of MCA. I take back my statement. Yes, I too know many of the MCA people and am actually friends with them. I hope in that same spirit others too will not whack all Malays or all the 1 million PAS members because of 1 or 2 stupid members/leaders of PAS who are still living in the past and have not woken up to the political realities of the present day. I think I have whacked Malays, Muslims and PAS more times than I have whacked Chinese and MCA in my pieces since the last 4 years so I certainly do know that there are many Malays who need a hard hit on the head as well.
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written by Milo, April 13, 2008 00:52:57
correction: ...They won the battle exteriorly, but lost where it counts, which is the war of the minds....
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Did UMNO won any conversion for all their effots? None! (except some perhaps who probably convert because of economic or other reasons) And they still carry on doing the same thing, but expecting a different result. For that alone, they qualify the title of "STUPID"!
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written by romerz, April 13, 2008 01:01:43
RPK,

No apologies needed. We too are at fault for remaining silent all this time whilst MCA and Gerakan morphed into what they are today.

All we ask now is a little understanding for us to make right our failings of the past.
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written by Raja Petra, April 13, 2008 01:01:43
Dear cartman26, let us do a little quiz. But no prize for the right answers though.

There are 222 Parliament seats. How many seats must PAS win to get two-thirds?

PAS contested 65 seats. How many % is that?

PAS won 23 seats. How many % is that?
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written by miwaki, April 12, 2008 | 13:41:21
"So all Malaysians whether chinese,malay and indian please bear in mind,if MCA were to whack Islam,all of us should know where to go.MCA building first,let burn the building and then look out for Ka Ting and Ka Chuan and let have both of their balls hanged on the roof top of that building and their bodies to be thrown into Klang river."

written by krising1, April 12, 2008 | 13:24:47
"Let s get the Chinese to take are of MCA. First tell all your friends in MCA to quit and join PR. Spit on those who continue to stay with MCA. Send a wreath to the home of any MCA member who runs down Islam. Harass them until they give up politics."


miwaki, you sure sounded like them terrorists who give bad image and indirectly make peaceful religion look bad to everybody else. You also reminded me of somebody who wanted to burn down Chinese Assembly Hall. Your bad intention is very clear to peaceloving people.

krising1, I wonder if you have heard of Article 8 (freedom of association). Your suggestion to hound and harrass those intent to exercise their personal rights is reminiscent of the KKK.

Pity whichever political party if they have both of you as members.

Debate, people. Not sow hate and burn bridges to achieve your personal agenda. Please do not misuse this platform Raja Petra loan to us.
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written by romerz, April 13, 2008 01:43:56
If I may be allowed to post a link to a blog from the 'other side' to reinforce that there are people asking questions of Gerakan's immediate response to the rakyats' voice.

http://amatterofchoice.*********.com/2008/04/10/business-as-usual-email-from-a-concerned-member/#comments
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written by bananachinese, April 13, 2008 02:19:00
{ahem, just got my friend and this is his reply:}


Dear Raja Petra,

Appreciate your response. I am aware of the engagement problems of MCA - just as Dr. Bridget Welsh has pointed out in her interview. Yes, am pushing hard for reform. Tough work working on culture and expanding paradigms. But all is not lost. MCA whether we like it or not is still the 'better' party within BN that has the clout to speak and act (unfortunately its style is to get things solved quietly behind close doors and brought out in cabinet meetings - got to preserve the dignity, according to some confucius thought, but this practice is not as we modern people can accept). And I totally emphatise with what you are doing for Malaysians. But enough about my tough task.

MCA's style has never been to take issues to public if they can solve it quietly. (In appearance, seen as not fighting among the family members). On negara Islam, there is the matter of language terminology (check out the confusion in 'state', 'country' 'nation' and its application in Malay, English and Mandarin) then you see headache of MCA when it took up the issue with Najib. Yes, MCA took the lead in the memo. The rest joined the caravan ride.

This is same like DAP isn't it? DAP also dead set against negara Islam, that's why Karpal insisting PAS declare now to avoid problems later. As we all know, politics always is never static and today's bedfellows can be foes tomorrow.

RPK, how can we be sure PAS has really discarded their Negara Islam document? If yes, why their members act like it still exists? Can we blame MCA, DAP if they are uncomfortable with this?

On your questions for other issues, will need to write a thesis smilies/smiley.gif

On another matter, your choice of topic has certainly succeeded to bring out the beasts in us. Reading your response to romerz is refreshing (I like both your civil conversation) Its as different as day and night as compared with the various hate/irresponsible postings by commentators, I am forced to arrive at the conclusion that debate or progressive ideas is futile with hard heads made up of the setuju and tak setuju fighting for attention of the fence sitters. Would I be correct to say Malaysia's politics is in its early infancy? Until such a time we have created a substantial number of the open minds, Malaysia politics journey hereon infancy will be bumpy and very noisy.

Just look at Malaysia political parties - they sure cannot reign in their juniors/members from making statements that jeopardise/conflicted their party's position/stand. We cannot fault other political parties from responding to these statements as each has their political stand and right to response. Meanwhile, the setuju and tak setuju just happily jump in to shout their hate.

How can politics advance when the people themselves are not?

I apologise not able to address the topic on running dog directly now, will do later. But I do hope to see more open mind debate for it if Malaysians intend to continue more conversations.
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written by RitchieLow, April 13, 2008 03:34:05

Moral authenticity
--Palden Jenkins

A nation is in a sorry state when it resorts to dishonesty to progress its cause.

The psyches of most nations have authenticity problems. The world needs a psychological shake-down, a cleansing of hidden agendas. This will allow things to progress.

Hidden agendas are usually fought out through conflict and manipulation of power, but this cannot continue.

Avoidance of truth and cooperation will, as the years roll on, charge an ever-increasing price: geopolitical games are becoming increasingly transparent.

If a nation mistreats other nations, or its own people, it dishonours and shames itself. It becomes unbelieved and disrespected, ultimately risking making itself a pariah state.
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written by Negarakuku, April 13, 2008 06:01:32
Uncle Pete, well said! I am always impressed with your article.

The people in MT can run the govt. better and you as the PM. smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/smiley.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/smiley.gif smilies/kiss.gif
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written by mei yen, April 13, 2008 08:01:14
Just great! Good job all of you! If you are looking for the 15 seats from MCA, you can kiss it goodbye! Do you think they will prostitute themselves after being called every foul name on this earth? Wow! And not forgetting the thousands of Chinese members, do you think they enjoyed watching MCA being screwed by all of you? If you’re thinking of acquiring these Chinese votes forget, forget, forget it! They do not want to be labeled as prostitutes later!

As one of your readers commented, MCA still has the clout to speak and act in the interest of the Chinese and they still have thousands of supporters who are watching and reading in disbelieve all that is being said about MCA their party which they have been part and parcel of for decades.

Call it anyway you want but this is blatant indoctrination and brainwashing of people especially the Chinese. Just blame everything on UMNO and MCA, day after day, hour after hour and the weak of mind will eventually lose themselves and start to prostitute themselves, losing their pride and dignity in the process. Keep it up the more you swear and rant, the more the silent majority will empathize with the running dogs and will all the more feel sorry for them and want to give them a home, a shelter from all the rocks and stones.

I applaud and admire Karpal Singh for his courage, his integrity, for being so vocal on PAS and their dream of an Islamic state and country. No matter what anyone says it will always be an agenda for PAS and don’t anyone forget that!

Malaysian Chinese!
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written by megahyper, April 13, 2008 08:01:19
ahmadbadrul40,
"If this rule comes true, I will be the first Malay to renounce Islam. Islam has not bring me and my family any benefit."

Another cybertrooper out to provoke.

Yes Ahmad or Badrul. It's your own choice, don't have to declare it through loudspeaker and "conteng" others. Whether you r religious type at all, who cares?

But I see more malicious intent behind it.
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written by mrgoh, April 13, 2008 08:03:18
I highly suggest you rename the column 'No Holds Barred' to 'Frustration/Insult/Criticism of the Day'.

Referring to:
Let us pray that these MCA agent provocateurs rot in hell for seven generations. And if anything adverse does happen, let us hang the MCA people from the highest tree and leave their bodies to rot in the sun.

Raja Petra, I advice you to with hold some extreme use of tirades in your article - it does attract readers to your article but the use of tirades in an analysis article would wrung your credibility in the article dry.

It just does not exude unbiased analysis - but just die hard malice on BN. Just my advice so that your articles does not come across like an 'In your face' and 'take it or leave' propaganda.

Love the rest of your analysis of your article and I you have made your arguments fair and just besides what I mentioned above.
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written by mei yen, April 13, 2008 09:24:27
mrgoh, I agree. You left out the word "ham kar chan" used by some which is the worst that you can say to a Chinese. Where did these people get their education from? Petaling Street? Coffee shops and hawker centers?
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written by Raja Petra, April 13, 2008 09:49:43
Dear mei yen, I agree, but I wish you would say the same thing when it comes to the Malays. When it is MCA or Chinese bashing, the arguments you offer is applied. When it is Umno or Malays bashing, then it is a blanket bash for all 3.5 million Umno members and 16 million Malays.

The government is a Malay government. The NEP benefits Malays. And so on and so forth.

Why when it is MCA or Chinese we must bash only the Ong Brothers but when it is Umno or Malay it is okay to stereotype and bash every single brown skin in Malaysia?
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written by Raja Petra, April 13, 2008 09:55:00
Dear mrgoh, what I said about MCA is tame and mild compared to what I have been saying about Umno, the Malays and Muslims these last 4 years. You are demonstrating a typical response we have been getting from Chinese these last 4 years.

When it is Umno, Malay or Muslim bashing, Raja Petra is a great guy, he is a towering Malay, he should be made Prime Minister, and much more. When I just slightly touch on the Chinese, Raja Petra is not fair, he is stereotyping, only 1 or 2 Chinese are like that, etc, etc, etc.
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written by Raja Petra, April 13, 2008 10:03:36
Dear bananachinese, I was at the demonstration when they wanted to close down Sekolah Damansara. See the photos in www.freeanwar.com. Yes, I, a Malay, opposed the closing down of the Chinese school even when the police threatened to arrest us. And some of us were in fact arrested.

As damage control, the government quickly announced that they are setting up a new school at Tropicana to 'replace' this school although it was an afterthought.

Why did they close down this Chinese school? Because some MCA people wanted the very valuable and prime land to make money.

So don't talk about MCA 'fighting' for Chinese education 'behind closed doors'. This Melayu named Raja Petra was there and he never saw any MCA Chinese there. The only reason the government relented and replaced the school is because we organised demonstration after demonstration and suffered arrest after arrest until the government 'surrendered'.
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written by SBennit, April 13, 2008 13:49:15
Have you all noticed how the MCA owned Star newspaper has been reporting news since the elections ...... They seem to be sitting on the sharpe edge of the fence, just waiting to switch over to any winning side..........thats why lately we are seeing somewhat balanced news about Anwar, Ku Li and Mahathir, while keeping a respectable distance from Badawi........typical of the way gangstas behave.



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written by bananachinese, April 13, 2008 16:21:46
{ahem, just got my friend and this is his reply:}

Dear Raja Petra,

I see we have some commonalities.

I too, have my share of demos, but our paths did not cross. Perhaps of age difference. I've organise for MCA members to join quite a few demonstrations together with the opposition members, in line with MCA's stand. Yes, demonstrated against 'bocor', sat many off days with experts to help with the Constitutional thingy, amendment to the Islamic family law, listened to JAG, etc. Helped the memo. Joined lawyers march, on the watch with concern for safety of our brothers in Bersih and Hindraf. fyi, the top leaders did not punish our members for sharing concerns of Malaysians nor stop us from dialogues with everybody.

On the Sek. Damansara issue, RPK, I urge you to do the right thing if any criminal elements or mala fide facts exist. I would too.

I'm sorry to burst setuju or tak setuju's bubble, MCA generally is not as black handed nor as moronic as it is made out to be by some of the unknowing, unthinking and the 'don't wanna know'. Most MCA leaders and members are sane, caring and as concerned for the future of Malaysia as most Malaysians.

P/S: To all commentators who cursed, villified MCA and their leaders - guess which political party worked hard to get Nat free? Sorry, will not further divulge details to keep up with culture of humility.
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written by bananachinese, April 13, 2008 16:25:12
megahyper,

Exactly, as in "many apples in a barrel" take from Tengku Faris, where the hell is MCA? Where the hell is PKR or DAP or PAS or the Pakatan Rakyat?

He's saying non Malays are less than equal. He's saying only Malay is the true citizen. chinese, indian, kadazan, iban and whatnot are here on their grace. What is Pakatan Rakyat doing to do about this? What is Pakatan Rakyat, the government of 5 states going to do about this?

Grab the ball, megahyper.
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written by cancan, April 13, 2008 18:42:46
Why Now? Why Not Before?

Link: http://www.kingsmary.********.com/
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written by Apek SK, April 14, 2008 00:10:54
Hi YM RPK,
Another good article.

i have read what BananaChinese'friend comments on MCA, what his comments is the issue of OKT statement is not related to any UMNO plot. Others issue/statement maybe, not this one.Banana C is not telling what has MCA doing good for Chinese. I can sure you MCA will repeat the same statement even if UMNO declare ISLAMIC STATE.( never happen during the previous MCA leadership)
YM , should YM remind the Pakatan specially PAS not to touch the religeon issue at this time?
I have read a lot news from PAS and Harakah, PAS did pushing the Islamic state as soon as taking over centre goverment, also supported by 5 states of PAS youth. Even though PAS captured less then half of Parliament seats, but combine with other muslims MPs from other party can
change the constitution any time.

We always belive the MCA is behave like dogs...etc. Not my concern, but if PAS
has started telling all muslims "their plan finally will be" at this time can make more fire then MCA. DAP may joint in also.
We have heared the what have Kelantan's Prince said yesterday, and the Prince is surrounded by UMNO. YM should touch on this next article.
Thanks.
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written by bananachinese, April 14, 2008 00:29:56
Dear Raja Petra,

Suddenly, I've been elevated to become a trusted postman. Please see below a comment from another MCA member. Tks!
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Dear Raja Petra,

Your observation is noted. An old adage has it that factual intent less verification equates to observation. One tells other how they should see something – the something you have vividly demonstrated over the past years…and like the letter on ‘running dogs’.

To the many letters you have written and the wonderful thoughts illustrated by yourself, I enjoyed reading these well crafted illustrations which are generally fascinating and at times startling…. However, this particular piece amongst two or three others I have read, I chose to differ.

Personally, I am not too aware of the plan UMNO intend to articulate and if they do so along your observation, they’d definitely lost it before the battle. I believe be it Malay, Chinese, Indian or other fellow Msians, the past which serves as warden to our irrational move since has little influence on us moving forward and more so those whom (like myself) were born after the regretful 1969. As to the linkage you made your observations to some senior MCAians’ recent commentary, may I suggest those observations shall remain as observation, carries not future truth and the comments were made in isolation.

MCA today has it personal dilemma and to use old tactics to incite unwarranted annoyance will have my first vote of non-confidence. My brief engagement with them recently seemed to provide me the idea of reform and working towards a paradigm shift which hopefully will not be just solving matters behind close door/ quietly but rather address the matter head-on in cabinet, medias,NGos or on appropriate forums. Hardwork aside, unless this suggestion is taken seriously, many more of Petra’ observations will made and broadcasted.

Psy-war or no psy-war will more likely be the last thing MCA will try attempting. To that, I believe the leaders would have focus on many more matters to address unity and more importantly to make available a blueprint strategy to avoid future annihilation. But what appalling to me was your choice of provocation even matter which occurred in isolation and remains only as observation has unwarrantedly drew undesirable damnation.

My apologise if my reply which carries no malice intention offended you but I do hope to see more open mind debates to come.

Redchip, Bangsar Branch

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written by bananachinese, April 14, 2008 02:30:57
megahyper and Victory or Death,

Kids, you be the death of any political party that have the misfortune to have you both on their membership roll because your words speak of unthinkingness and disrespect for human rights. When you shout allegience for a party and shout disrespect for others not of your party, you demean your allegience in the eyes of bystander. You've got to learn to stop hounding or harrassing anybody else for exercising their rights for freedom of association, even if they prefer to go to dodoland if their hearts so desire.

Please be considerate and not make this platform cheap as Raja Petra has a heavy yoke with people like you populating his blog. Please stay silent if debate is not your strength.

P/S: I have my friends from all political allegience and denominations, and I have many whom I can talk politics/debate with no resorting to your type of behaviour.
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written by Wisdom above, April 14, 2008 02:40:08
To bananachinese and all MCA leaders ,

Will MCA drop the word ' Chinese' & be renamed as 'Malaysian Association' (MA) in the near future ?

Will your party become a multi-racial party in future?

'Race based political party' will fade away like an old soldier.

I hope both Chua Jui Meng ,Chua Soi Lek, Ting Chew Peh, are reading this.

Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.
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written by Apek SK, April 14, 2008 09:36:20
megahyper and Victory or Death ,

Your comments show no value but only lalang. Multiracial party is also a racial
formular party......what are your talking?
Pakatan did not win majority in 12th GE. Why are your saying MCA Gerakan MIC is
gone. The winning of 5 states' government is yet to show best or better then BN.
Of course i hope so.
Yet Pakatan to prove they fullfill what have they promised to rakyat. Dont tell
others what to do but help to make your dream(pakatan) come true!!

Wisdom,
We agree PAS has it own agenda. All party has his own agenda.
MCA has the right to stand up for secular state Malaysia by their own initialtive and it is their party agenda from day one.

Find out yourself last week what have media reported on PAS senior members' statement and Harakah news. Have they said something against PAS agenda??????

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written by mat, April 14, 2008 11:32:16
Ha! Ha!

First everyone chanting "We are Malaysians!". Next here and there chanting "We Chinese/Malays/Indians/Muslims/Christians/Jews/Pariah/Satan Worshippers etc". Make up your minds lah! Don't be hypocrites. Either practice what you preach or accept the fact we are nowhere near "Malaysian Malaysia". I've accepted it and still haven't lost any sleep over it. I'm best buddies with people not of my race & religion and I still don't give a hoot about how different he is from me. If everyone the same then life would be boring wouldn't it? We (my non-Muslim & non-Malay friends) openly agree that if the Chinese or Indians were in power the same thing would happen only with a different race. Look at what happened in Sabah when PBS (the opposition) took over. All the govt posts went to their people. They call for interview just as formality and in the end it all went to their guys. Even labourer post went to them! And I bet the same would happen here if PR won the federal seat. It's all about the money lah! Takkan itu pun tak nampak lagi?

Support a strong opposition. Buts thats all lah. Never let anyone be in total control.
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written by Silence is not consent, April 14, 2008 11:34:10
I agree with much that has been written about the (un)suitability of MCA leaders to lead the Chinese community. Majority are in the "business" for the money.

I feel, however, that the bigger issue for MCA now is that they are getting to be irrelevant in the context of a multiracial Malaysia today. How does one champion Chinese "rights" without compromising the rights of others? If the leadership sees this anomaly, how do they change? MCA cannot change. Their raison d'etre has evaporated. Hence the headless chicken syndrome. And in trying to avoid looking like a headless chicken, they will raise other irrelevant matters as distraction - a well proven strategy that served well in the past to all sorts of leaders all over the world. It is really up to us as a people to see through this poor smokescreen, and to discuss these matters openly to share our feelings with others who may be lost in the haze.
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written by bogeyman, April 14, 2008 11:39:38
written by Wisdom above, April 14, 2008 | 02:40:08

To bananachinese and all MCA leaders ,

Will MCA drop the word ' Chinese' & be renamed as 'Malaysian Association' (MA) in the near future ?

Will your party become a multi-racial party in future?


Hi Wisdom,

The day MCA will drop the word "Chinese" is when UMNO drops "Malay" and replace it with "Malaysian". But then again MCA would then be redundant and would have merged with all the other parties under the umbrella of UMNO - United Malaysian National Organisation.

I don't see it coming anytime soon if the party leadership in BN don't reinvent themselves.

cheers
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written by Apek SK, April 14, 2008 14:54:54
Megahyper the young kid.

Open your eye and dont be one of the setuju group first.
You can said thousands of bad things done by Bn or MCA will not help.What have
RPK title is, nothing work for you to add fire.

Sure RPK has more facts and pratical experience on many issue to prove MCA and others are running dogs. This is what we are discuss why this statement by OKT
from MCA is marked as a plot to bring down Pakatan, to link to May13....etc Get
it? I am more happy to hear OKT is only president of MCA dare to stand up what
their party stand for all along compare to the previous leadership.
Banana C is not protecting MCA wrong doing. I think is what he means.
Dont see too far young kid, i know you dont need cermin mata. Talk and write point by point and issue by issue.
I agree all the points list by RPK to Banana C. need not to answer that. Me and banana C who you call old man like to hear RPK to tell us why he saying so?

YM RPK,

The list YM answer to Banana C is true but not quite really link to OKT statement or more worry about.
OKT is, maybe taking chance to wack PAS, since PAS members started the campange all over Malaysia again.
Today The president of PAS also open his mouth reminded something quite closely to that.
I'm taking note of their movement, get more concern it affect Pakatan Rakyat then OKT speechs and those running dogs as claimed.

thanks
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written by Camillus, April 14, 2008 18:52:20
Hmmm...

And these are the very same MCA and UMNO candidates that you want to come over to PR?

Now, do you see why I trust neither?
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written by cartman26, April 14, 2008 20:55:57
Dear RPK

Here are d answers...

PAS contested 65 seats. How many % is that?
29.279% (sorry can't resist not putting d decimals in...I'm a bit nerdy..haha)

PAS won 23 seats. How many % is that?
10.36%

# of seats needed to obtain 2/3 in the parliament
66.67% - 10.36% = 56.31% = 125 seats

It's barely 10% and PAS needs another 125 seats to amend the constitution. So ppl don't be fooled by false accusations, there is no way that PAS can change the constitution, even with minority votes they only managed 10.36%. Anyway RPK, love you work man...u r d man....

ps. darn...no prizes man....

warm regards
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written by loko Ono, April 14, 2008 22:29:11
Nobody wants the ugly May 1969 riots. But if u chinese and indian wankers keep insulting islam and malays (as u have through out this website), watch out...I notice a very disturbing trend amongst chinese and indian posters in this blog..they can dish it but certainly cant take it back! Morons..Macam bagus..baik korang pi mampus!
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written by bananachinese, April 15, 2008 00:50:34
Beg your pardon Raja Petra, my friend just could not tolerate kids with bad behaviour; please excuse me, his message for:


Dear megahyper,

You seem to suffer from a huge misconception that debate is all about argument; it is not.

Normally the purpose of a 'comment' section is for readers to respond to the blog owner's post. Your challenge to a duel with me is insolent, abusing the owner's indulgence and sadly exposed to all and sundry your serious lack in basic sense of propriety.

Debate with me? Brush up your manners and civility first. Goodbye.


mountainking,

Go brush up your basic understanding of English. You seem to have difficulty with reading. Me stealing taxpayers' money? Back up with facts or get ready for a letter from my lawyer. I give you 2 days.


Malaysiaku,

Do you mean ISA for UMNO, MCA and MIC people is ok and ISA for PAS, PKR, DAP people is not ok? Yourself a hypocrite who support double standards, yes?


P/S:
No need to reply as this civil platform is not appropriate for you who do not know how to respect freedom of association.

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written by NancyL, April 15, 2008 03:31:41
Hi Alarka,

Dont be like that maaaaaaahhhhh.....haven't you heard of this impression...."Dont judge the book by its cover".....poor Ong...if you want to cela him cela lah...but dont put his worst picture in here...biase lah.....I bet you there are other nice pictures of him...but you didnt pick that one isnt it?????...haiyaaaa....... smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif
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written by Camillus, April 15, 2008 07:45:07
written by Surind Raj, April 15, 2008 | 07:29:22
Watch this! Especially, Moderate & Liberal Muslims!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOCUuILJIg


Hi Surind,
Reminds me of that incident where Richard Gere planted a kiss on Shilpa Shetty's cheek (or something to this effect). Indians and Hindu fundamentalists alike were enraged and started rioting, burning effigies, etc. smilies/wink.gif
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written by Apek SK, April 15, 2008 10:07:14
Dear BananaChinese,

If you ask me to invite victory of death to debate, i rather not if i have a choice.
Because his mind have not get over the steam of victory of PR and stop at the
March of 8th 2008. Dont lah turn victory of PR become victory of death.

victory of death,
i wont mark your word, Ahhhhhh.....maybe i can mark your dream!!!!


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written by bananachinese, April 15, 2008 13:33:09
Dear Wisdom above,

In response to your comment
of April 14, 2008 | 02:40:08
To bananachinese and all MCA leaders ,

Will MCA drop the word ' Chinese' & be renamed as 'Malaysian Association' (MA) in the near future ? Dropping of 'Chinese' or renaming of party involves constitution change, therefore will require EGM to get consent of delegates. If approved by delegates so desire and calls for EGM, it will be conducted. Then, next step is to file the request with ROS. The question of renaming remains in the hands of MCA delegates.


Will your party become a multi-racial party in future? Again, it remains in the powers of MCA delegates if MCA delegates wants to become multi-racial. That's why OKT is doing his duty to find out what delegates wants in roadshows/dialogues. That is duty of President to check with delegates what they want.

'Race based political party' will fade away like an old soldier. Transition is welcomed, but in meantime because of historical establishment and furthermore delegates not pushing yet for change to constitution, the President cannot unilaterally announce this change as he is only able to do this after mandate received by delegates. You will appreciate that the powers of delegates is supreme in this matter. Currently, the party constitution of MCA is the most liberal in Malaysia as it put the Federal Constitution and respect for rights as supreme.

I hope both Chua Jui Meng ,Chua Soi Lek, Ting Chew Peh, are reading this. Maybe. But rest assured that many, many more younger, brighter, liberal minded MCA members share your concerns too. These new blood would be better bets to lead MCA ahead as their mindsets are not encumbered with burden of history and self imposed limitations. See my friend Redchip's comment.

Syabas. Barisan Rakyat. Yes syabas for Barisan Rakyat surpassed themselves in this GE results. Syabas to all for sportmanship of all political denomination, as at the end of the day, we only want the best for our country.
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written by Apek SK, April 15, 2008 16:04:33
Dear Megahyper,

"If you cant find true meaning in your struggle, come to papa. I will instill some vision and just cause for your struggle.But if you are still in denial mode……bye bye and don’t come back!We already had too many sore loser."

Just to know you, Are you representing Keadilan? Dap? Pas? Try to be RPK fans? Why are you talking like you have won the election. Are you active in politic? or you are just member of the NATO?
Tell us more about you, otherwise what in your scolding at others make no sense.

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written by daliman, April 15, 2008 16:27:36
a good post indeed RPK.

i see it differently after the 12th GE altogether.

What the people need is the utmost of all, whatever the struggle cooked-up there is. What failed the controlling govt is the mechanism to reached the common people's need. Worst when the PM himself is not strong enough to apprehend the back-log grievances the people endured all these years.

The people had given the majority trust in 2004 GE to change but to no vail. The power bestowed by the people was not practically enforced due to short-sighted planning to remain in power, and thats a fact. What more to retained members that is considered rotten eggs in the eye of the people.

Whats was practiced is a dismay to the likings of the peoples views. Thats the basic reasons the reps are there so to speak. Manifestos by each component party has yet to be seen logical once they are in office. Why? even after GE, situations are still at a stale mode. From the economic point of views, nothing is moving, investors are monitoring intensely to a wait n see strategy and arent these revenues to the country and jobs to the people?

What comes into the politician minds are the controlling factors. Why is that so? If every transaction is accountable for and being transparents, business is then should be as usual let be whom ever comes to power right?

Let us see the demands that won by the majority, more seats in the parliament, in the federal govt or even in the states. More demands here and there in time to come. ( ya-lah democracy so to speak )

And now for the very reason at stake is for the present controlling party to transfer, to give or to keep and not to let go at all. Worst situation are for us to see is the creations of unrest amongst the people so that whatever at stake will be delayed or not given at all. Especially when comes to monies.

We the people should know whether the funds being channelled back for the benefits of the people or what not in the long run and a big no to sloppy or sub-standard results in terms of public facilities, utilities, amenities etc. They are the ones should go to the gallows FIRST. What angers them most to my opinion is the distributions of wealth amongst close parties. Forget about the commoners like us. Worst still if you are not even registered in their books(as members). Strange thing is, the ratio of the non-members is far more greater than registered members. What went wrong here? ( please dont ever think of socialist agenda here, its just a comparative ratios)

What is mentioned in this article in an eye opener to us all. Dont just forget the kris wielding, the so called justice demands by certain minority group and now the heating up of racial tensions.

I for sure shall never ever want those negative events to ever occurs again. peroid. now, who is going to get them buggers? the fear amongst us people are:

- maybe them people out there are well-connected, timun and durian situations?
- info/report given to trusted enforcement could back-fire?
- mana ada public informer gomen jaga? parlemen sendiri pun reject.
- komplen pun tak guna, komplener selalu subject kena interrogate dulu, a scary mode where nobody wants to be in such a situation.
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written by bananachinese, April 15, 2008 17:21:16
{my friend redchip reply to mountainking below:}


Dear mountainking,

Appreciate your point of view. Certainly i do not have the concise answers to your matter raised, however, do allow me to be candid to support claims.

"why didn't the deputy home minister (i supposed the previous round from MCA) do something about ISA law. you talk about the right to talk, why not ask your leaders (stupid and corrupted) to challenge ISA, did Dato Lee Hwa Beng challenge the govt on the banning of malay bibles?

[Like what was being discussed of late, the silent protest employed the by the leaders of MCA has certainly gone unnoticed. He would have (i cannot speak for the individual but I presume MCA-ians would have attempted to address the matter numerous times ie. resulted in MCA leading the pack to forward the inter-faith 'whitepaper' to the PM) attempted too. Unfortunately, we bury ourselves for not being vocal enough and chose to resort to silent protest and to border our coalition spirit. Like you may have alluded, MCA is govern by spirit of coalition which i reckoned should be re-examine now and fast in order to provide flexibility to speak while seeking the truth]

"did you speak up for things concerning the national policy?"

[we did. the question raised should perhaps be more pertinent to who the actual mandate holder is - UMNO. We can raise questions and hope to implement the needful policy but it is unfortunate that the last 50 years of no change have resulted in the largest component party having the last say. So what now? The immediate stance is to have flexibilities in-built and re-examine the coalition pack in order to all of us to be relevant]


"did you join the Bersih rally as that's not about race issue but a VERY BIG issue "judiciary"?"
[Physically i was not there. But if you believe me that i wore yellow T shirt on that memorable morning, then i presume it can be considered supporting the movement and motion right?]

"why did MCA voted for another year of extension the EC chairman? wasn't the EC chairman is to ensure victory for MCA but backfired? did you go all out "violently" protest the cancellation of the use of indellible ink?"
[If memory served me correctly, you do noticed that MCA was quiet through out this period as we were more concern of what may be require to assist BN candidates to run their successful campaigns. LIke yourself, we took note of that importance of the means to our campaigns than to dwell on deliberating on the tool itself. We are aware the poor sentiment and undercurrent rakyat has due to partly our silent protest and more so the arrangance of the govt. To that, focus was to ensure the best campaign possible and to help out where possible]


" well, if you did, not only BN going to lose 5 states but will definitely lose more states. did you ever ask your leaders to request for no more "postal votes? if you did not, please go and ask MCA to fix themselves up. i am more than happy to listen to you and mca members for constructive comments/criticisms if MCA has started on the right platform. why only do all these little acts when MCA is reduced to only 15 parliamentary seats? why did MCA ask all their JKKK members to resign and to be re-assign federal JKKK? hey, redchip and mca member..... it is our money that you are using to pay your MCA JKKK. "
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[well, i wish in life we have all the solutions. Certainly, this election has thought us one important thing besides re-examine our relevancy, be vigilent. For the start, i second Raja Nazrin's call for the live telecasting the parlimentary debates, and cabinet meetings where possible]

regards,
Redchip
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written by bananachinese, April 16, 2008 00:37:54
orangutan,

Our MCA members (all below the age of 50) comments' are directly responding to the writer Raja Petra on the article he has written. Our purpose is engage civilly with the writer on the topic.

As rakyat Malaysia, MCA young members do not condemn fellow Malaysians who holds different political affiliation from ours. We respect protocols of sportsmanship and do not hold hate in our hearts for people who insisted on condemning MCA. Debate without protocols are anarchic, if you understand parliamentary procedure you will appreciate this fact.

If you wish to engage with MCA members directly, we can arrange for the session.

(Please notice that we do not practice usage of derogatory words as we understand the bad effects of agitation with purpose to inflame hateful emotions)
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written by bananachinese, April 16, 2008 01:17:02
{Doing my postman duty again:}

MCA knows better than to 'whack' Islam. MCA will never insult any religion and has never done so. OKT was only seeking clarification if PAS has already dropped the Islamic State issue.

In politics, a political stand is important for forward planning in national advancement and as aid to citizenry.

MCA respects all religions and submits to the supremacy of the Federal Constitution. All constitutional experts consulted advised that our Federal Constitution never stated that Malaysia is an Islamic State. Please consult the Reid Commission for rationale why Article 3 was put in.
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written by Taiping60, April 16, 2008 08:05:50
Dear Malaysian,

March 8,2008 marked an important milestone for all of us. It is a day where moderate Malaysian stood up and say NO TO RACIAL politiking. It is a message which is loud a clear and don't let anybody to do otherwise.

As long as Malaysia has racial parties, there will be politician championing their own race and in doing so they are likely to offend the other races. We have seen this happened in the past before and how they provoked the general public at large. Similarly, politically parties should also dissociate from religion. Religion is a very sensitive matter. Many countries are still at war mainly because of religion. This has gone in thousand of years. So all politicians, please stay out of religion. To me religion is a very personal and private matter. It is between us and GOD, so everybody else stay out. Everyone is free to practise whatever religion they believe and the others should respect that choice.

While it is easy to blame others, it is not easy to control others especially if those people have ulterior motives. So I would like borrow the famous quotes from JFK's "Ask not what the country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your country". So fellow Malaysian, this is what we should do;

1) Never vote a person or party that represent a race against,
2) Never vote a person or party that preach for a religion,
3) Never vote a person or party that is corrupted,
4) Never vote a person or party that encourage violent,
5) Never vote a person or party that divide us,
6) Vote for a person or party that unite us,
7) Vote for a person or party that do good for this country,
smilies/cool.gif Vote for a person or party that care for peace and safety of fellow Malaysian
9) Vote for a person or party that enrich us.

So fellow Malaysian, since we have started the change, don't let anyone derail us. If we ourselves do not support violent then violent cannot happen. So if there is someone whether they are from the government or opposition parties that attempted to talk racial....it is time for us to tell the person.. SHUTUP. and if he or she don't....make sure we vote them OUT. We are against violent so don't involve in violent act. Use the peaceful way as it is more powerful. March 8 is a testimony to that.
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written by Ken Liew, April 16, 2008 09:02:02
Dear RPK,

I didn't walkthrough all the message. But one thing is sure. Your beloved wife, has more juice in her brain then all BNs leaders added up together.

But I surely hope with new mixture of government, we Malaysia are now moving forward.
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written by bananachinese, April 17, 2008 01:55:48
Dear Raja Petra,

I've checked with Bangsar members and they are more than happy to meet with your members who want to discuss issues with MCA members.

Please could you advise as face to face meeting is prefered.

Thank you.

NB: For virtual discussion, we are now talking to a friend about hosting on his website a real time meeting.
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written by mei yen, April 17, 2008 07:05:09
bananachinese, I wouldn't think of a face to face discussion with members especially from you know where. Until and unless members learn to have civil discussion, without being abusive, then it is better to keep talking on the web. Alternative is, meet face to face but everyone tie your hand behind your backs for safety reasons. Mmmmh ... now what about the legs?? smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by StevenMax, April 18, 2008 10:39:15
MCA will never change and will eventually fail and fall. WHY? I was at wisma MCA a moment ago for a meeting with my clients (not MCA lah but one of the corporate tennant of the building). I was sitting in the ground floor kopitiam having my breakfast with my clients. There, a group of MCA Youth in their uniform as usual was having a chat including one YB Timbalan Menteri (Youth member). It was overheard, all of them condemn Pakatan Rakyat and every one of them also condemn the other group of ex-MCA leaders led by one datuk TB asking for removal of the MCA top leadership. They show absolutely no respect for their ex-leaders and what the other group (anti-OKT) is doing. It was overheard that they are also asking for seats in the next election. The way they talk absolutely very arrogant especially one chap whom the others call Han from KL. If MCA have this kind of Youth members attempting to be leaders of this country, I guess MCA will be called Malaysia Corpse Association in the next election. Even if MCA leaves BN, which they will never do, I would never vote for them because they are not humble and arrogant to the max!!!!
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written by StevenMax, April 19, 2008 07:26:14
There has been quite a few Press Statement made by MCA recently. Why didn't they do it all this while and why only after GE12? This, no doubt, speaks of their acknowledgement that they have not done enough. Further, I do not believe MCA will be able to live up to rakyat's dream because paying lip service will not do. I would like to see MCA, if they are still relevant, speak up in Cabinet, Parliament and openly condemn whatever wrongs that BN and UMNO has done and not just keep quiet. Maybe is too late but better late than never. If MCA stand by what they said, the President OKT should say it openly and not let proxies do all the barking, ok?
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written by bananachinese, April 19, 2008 13:24:02
Dear StevenMax,

Thank you for your reporting of the overheard conversation. Boys will be boys (the exuberance of Youth, always care less) Noted and I have channeled your observation to higher level. As long as words/actions are not unlawful, we cannot stop people from expressing their affiliation or thoughts/words. However, you have a point there, we will make effort to info members to take care of utterances but we have no legal rights to curtail their right to expression.

On your remarks on the Press statements, all the while MCA have made them. Its only that newspapers chose not to publish them. You might find it hard to believe, but its a fact that newspapers will not entertain each and every one of press statements from everybody. MCA has to fight for space to send their message on the media too. So far, we have direct complaints from people that MCA has been doing too much of 'longkang' servicing and they want MCA to talk more in the open.

If you look at the Parliament, all MCA MPs submitted their questions as compared with others. MCA have been talking of important national issues, but it has not been picked up by the media. For evidence, you can check the Hansard, it does not lie. MCA has been talking in cabinet to get things done, but cannot revealed to public because cabinet talk is under OSA.

What would you recommend, if you are in President OKT's shoes?
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written by bananachinese, April 21, 2008 14:24:24

I just came in here to see if StevenMax have further queries. And am amazed....

Why does Malaysia-today have so many unsportsmanlike members who make a lot of noise complaining about this or that...

Never heard of existence of 'MCA cybertroops' hahahaa.
fyi, MCA members I know of have jobs and lots of productive things to do. Not just sitting behind the computer and doing only voting up or down.

Please, calm down and use them grey cells more. And while trying to exercise control over your mind, do please control your blind hate too. Everybody can see it in words used by you. How can one claim to stand up for justice, truth, etc when one threatens others with headhunting knife, derogatory words or unleash unreasonable hate all the time?

Me am a pacifist and will never threaten bodily harm or unleash hate on fellow Malaysians.
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written by orangutan, April 21, 2008 17:25:12
bananachinese
Thank you for your contributions to this blog....
All the Hidup PR makes dull reading.
But take this statement with an open mind :
Badawi said 'lessen learned and message received.'
How did the BN learn the lesson and receive the message ?
MT commentors used their passion to send the message.
The rakyat converted their hatred for BN into VOTES.
No physical violence is used and no bodily harm done.
Its only in your fertile imagination that words could kill.
BTW .. we headhunt using sword not knife like UMNO.
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written by Apek SK, April 23, 2008 12:58:17
Dear victory of death,

Now you can call him(Lee Kah Choon) as a running dog for DAP.
What you say....?
To improve the image of a running dog, he should resign and joint DAP.

That is not a good picture ..agree?
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written by Apek SK, April 23, 2008 21:23:30
Dear victory of death,

You have answered to yourself, whoever wish to serve which ever side should
not be called as running dog, unless he betray the people and the party wishes.
Lee Kah Choon cannot wear a Gerakan uniform and serving at DAP camp. Just like
MU player wearing MU jersey and scoring for Liverpool.

Moreover LKC has problem with the party, he should leave, nothing to do with PR.

By the way, i am Apek not BananaChinese , Not MCA members.
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written by Victory or Death, April 30, 2008 00:25:38
Dear Apek,

Can you please explain why you said Datuk Lee Kah Choon has a problem when he was touted as one of the three possible candidates to succeed Tan Sri Koh Tsu Koon as CM of Penang by the ex-CM Tan Sri Koh himsef?


Also why was he selected to stand as a candidate at the last GE if he had a problem with the party?

Have not heard anything from you for days?

Cannot reply based on reasons or what?

I am still here waiting for an answer.

But you are nowhere to be seen!

I repeat:
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That's the resolve of one Penangite.What happens when all the Penangite's resolve are combined.Just imagine!!!!!!

My name is not Victory or Death for nothing!!!!!
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Although we may have different political inclinations, I still wish you God's blessings!

Another wish is that I wish you will answer my question.

If you concede you are unable to answer my question, then the topic is closed.

Again, God bless and good night and sweet dreams.
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