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Monday, 24 March 2008 14:01

March 24 – The battle lines have been drawn, and only a miracle can prevent the constitutional crisis in Terengganu from reaching two conclusions: The dissolution of the state assembly and fresh elections -- or a lengthy court battle.

This picture will become clearer to Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail if he manages to get an audience with the Malaysian King today to clear issues on the Terengganu state constitution.

He is likely to realise that the King, Sultan Mizan of Terengganu, has a completely different understanding of the state constitution and that there is a nil-to-zero chance of him agreeing to the appointment of Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh as the Mentri Besar.

The palace position of “anyone but Idris’’ has hardened in the past 48 hours, prompted by the feeling that Barisan Nasional was using the media to paint the intervention by the state’s Regency Advisory Council as unconstitutional. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s statement that appointing anyone but Idris as the MB as unconstitutional has made the hawks in the Sultan’s camp more strident.

There are a knot of issues why the palace and Idris are as different as light and day.

The royal household feels that Idris in his first term as the MB was not respectful to the Sultan and less responsive to the needs of the family. On the flip side, Idris supporters say that his job as the state’s chief executive is to be fair to everyone. Also even after the Sultan assumed his duties as the King, he continued to brief the Regency Advisory Council on state matters. So the issue of disrespecting the Sultan did not arise.

The government’s position on the state constitution is that once the majority of the state assembly makes clear its choice of the MB, the palace has to endorse it. So now that 22 state assemblymen are backing Idris, he has to be installed as the MB.

Gani Patail said the state constitution and principles of parliamentary democracy state that a person with the majority support among elected assemblymen had to be appointed the mentri besar.

That was why the Raja of Perlis could choose to appoint Dr Mat Isa Sabu as MB of Perlis over the PM’s choice, Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim. Because Mat Isa had the support of the majority of assemblymen.

The Malaysian Insider has learnt that the palace and the advisory council are interpreting the law differently.

They believe that the question is not whether the MB has the support of elected assemblymen but of the political party he represents, and the people of Terengganu. That is why newly-appointed Mentri Besar Datuk Ahmad Isa has been stressing that he has the support of majority of Umno members in 7 of the 8 divisions.

There is no provision to call a referendum of the people and there is every chance that Ahmad Isa will not survive a motion of no confidence when the state assembly convenes. The assembly has to sit by May 13.

If a no-confidence vote is passed, Ahmad Isa could step down. This would then present the regency advisory council with two options: appoint another mentri besar or dissolve the state assembly and call for new elections.

The Malaysian Insider understands that the palace is prepared to break the impasse by appointing a compromise candidate as the MB – anyone except Idris.

But if this is not possible, the royalty believe that allowing the Terengganu people to speak through new elections may be the solution. New polls may not be advantageous to an Idris-led BN team, not with the largely-Malay electorate knowing the depth of dislike the ruler has for him. It is not likely that PAS can wrest control of the state but BN could lose their comfortable two-thirds majority.

Within the corridors of power in government, Abdullah knows that he is caught between a rock and hard place.

He knows that Umno members expect him to be their protector, and to come out strong. More so when it involves someone who has been loyal to him like Idris Jusoh.

Then there is the issue of law and royal activitism. He and other Umno leaders know that several royal households – sensing that the centre is not strong – are flexing their muscles. While this is acceptable when it falls within the confines of the law, submitting to the will of the royalty on this issue will set a dangerous precedent, they feel.

An Umno official said: “Malaysia is not an absolute monarchy. We have to respect the constitutional role of Malay rulers but they have to respect the rule of law.’’

So it looks like Abdullah will have to dig in his heels and consider going to court to make clear the limits of what the royal household can do in Terengganu. Also, Abdullah has to tread gingerly because Sultan MIzan is also the Malaysian King. Push too hard and the Malay ground may interpret it as a sign of disrespect for an institution which they respect.

What he can ill-afford when he is rebuilding his strength within Umno is a battle on another front. - THE MALAYSIAN INSIDER

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written by Kcc, March 24, 2008 14:11:21
In my personal point of view, HRH Sultan Mizan will not budge from his decision. He knows best for Terengganu. No matter what the rule of law says, BN still doesn't deserve to be respected anymore, and they shouldn't have gone against the Sultan's choice. It is still - in a way - being disrespectful to the Sultan.

If all 23 BN supporters of Idris want to resign, they have to do so quickly instead of merely threatening to resign. What could our PM do about this? Nothing much except pray.
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written by cble, March 24, 2008 14:11:43
Jika sayalah Sultan, tindakan yang akan saya ambil jika semua rundingan sudah tertutup, ialah dengan membubarkan Dewan Undangan Negeri bagi rakyaat membuat keputusan muktamat. Sama Idris Jusoh boleh bertahan atau tidak terpulang kepada rakyaat.
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written by Ranulaw, March 24, 2008 14:17:44
There are also reports of the unscrupulous use of Trengganu's wealth like the Monsoon Cup, which brings little development to the state but a lot to the cronies. The article only states of the previous MB's disrespect to the Sultan which may not be the true story. If only the royalty issue its side of the story then perhaps we can all clearer of the situation. smilies/cry.gif
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written by coolandy, March 24, 2008 14:18:54
I am from Terengganu and in this instance fully support our Sultan.

I trust the good judgement of our Sultan more than those "pirates". I am sure the rakyat of Terengganu do not want absolute monarchy, they just want the Sultan to bela nasib rakyat. Kalau tidak Sultan, siapa lagi? Lanun BN hanya memrompak dan memboroskan wang untuk kepentingan mereka. Hanya kerak yang diberi kepada rakayat.

Semua rakyat Terengganu tahu bahawa BN gave out a lot of money during PRU12 to almost everyone that ask and does not ask for it, to buy vote. This is illegal but BPR & SPR membuta to this activity.

If state elections is held again, I bet my balls that BN will end up with their tails between the legs.

Daulat Tuanku!
Daulat Tuanku!
Daulat Tuanku!


Raja Adil, Raja disembah, BN tak adil, BN disanggah!

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written by wildbil, March 24, 2008 14:19:42
Check Mate, bodohwi....

All options you also lose...

Only one option, ask forgiveness from the King.. then..the umno monkeys are too arrogant and tuan to do so...

The umno monkey had been feeling they are the "KING" for Malaysia since MM time. It is "disgrace" for the umno monkeys to "kow tau" to the Agong or Sultan.

Damm.....
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written by Rundukon, March 24, 2008 14:20:01
Ternyata kepercayaan keatas Pak Lah telah pudar, sepudar-pudarnya. Bermula dari ketidakpercayaan rakyat menerusi PRU12,sehinggalah ketidakpercayaan Duli-Duli Yang Maha Mulia yang tidak bersetuju dengan cadangan yang dibuat bagi perlantikan MB Perlis dan kini Trengganu.

Berundurlah Pak Lah, berundurlah.

Hanya dengan pengunduran Pak Lah dari arena politik maka sinar mentari akan kembali memancar di Malaysia.

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written by teohsh, March 24, 2008 14:21:05
"The Malaysian Insider understands that the palace is prepared to break the impasse by appointing a compromise candidate as the MB – anyone except Idris.

But if this is not possible, the royalty believe that allowing the Terengganu people to speak through new elections may be the solution. "

So, the royalty wants a new election. The billion RM question is will BN allow fresh elections when this is risky, or channel this through the judiciary which they still control?

If I was AAB, I will make sure there is NO fresh elections. I will invoke every law possible to prevent fresh elections, since the judiciary is a much safer bet.

Totally disgusting of course, but AAB has absolutely no choice. In the worst case scenario, the judiciary may be forced to support a call for fresh elections. I expect every single hurdle will be thrown in by AAB to prevent fresh elections. In short, don't expect BN to think about "what's best for Rakyat".
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written by est, March 24, 2008 14:21:55
Whatever it may be, I view the following events with disgust :

1. When someone other than Idris Jusoh becomes the choice, the statement of possible boycott of swearing in.

2. Also the threat that the assemblymen may resign.

What on earth is happening? These statements should not have been uttered at all in the first place. Cannot come to agreement, then seek out the Palace and discuss. Cannot seek a meeting and discussed in a civilised way is it? You guys just come out of an election trampled like never before. What causes that to happen? You don't need rocket scientist to analyse that. You don't need independent consultants. It is this kind of arrogant behaviour. So used to being doing things your way without any check and balance that now when things don't go your way, you behave so despicably. No matter what the Sultan is still the state's elder. Accord him that respect due. What happened to the Rukun Negara. Asked us all in school to hafal. And one of them is "taat kepada Raja ....." Walk the talk. Show respect. Now that you have done a wrong by making a threat to boycott swearing in and also make a threat to resign, acknowledge that it is a NO DO. Repent. Withdraw gracefully and say that we have done what we are not supposed to do and now we will accept the person you appoint. Stop the arrogance.
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written by cble, March 24, 2008 14:33:12
Kepada Paklah kita yang budiman. Berkrompromilah dengan kehendak Sultan. Jangan dengar nasihat KJ,Idris Jusoh maupun Patrick Lim. Jika pilihan raya baru diadakan saya pasti Umnoputra akan kalah teruk. Kemenangan pimilu yang berlalu pun atas penipuan undi hanti dan undi pos tajaan SPR.
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written by nafis, March 24, 2008 14:35:45
If be-end truly has the rakyat in its agenda, it wouldn't have behaved like this-so insolent and biadap to Sultan Mizan.

So, we say - "Daulat Tuanku, kami menjunjung kasih kepada Tuanku kerana cuba hendak mempertahankan hak kami mendapat seorang pemimpin negeri [mb] yang bermaruah. Dan oleh kerana itu, izinkan kami menjalani satu pilihanraya semula supaya kami dapat memilih pemimpin yang Tuanku BERKENAN" smilies/grin.gif
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written by Ben Nordin, March 24, 2008 14:41:16
HRH Sultan of Terengganu is telling AAB that he doesn't want Idris Jusoh as MB. Anyone but Idris Jusoh. IS it difficult for AAB to understand? Eventhough HRH may have a lot of reasons for not wanting Idris Jusoh, he has opted not telling it to the public. He does not need to rant and rave like some people in the BN. This could have easily been avoided if AAB had the grace to meet HRH and seek a solution. I think most Malaysians, especially the people of Terengganu, are already disgusted with the BN for showing disrespect to the King of the Country. First in Perlis and now in Terengganu.
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written by Democrats, March 24, 2008 14:46:53
I think Idris is a goner so long as the HRH Sultan Mizan doesn't want him. BN will not risk a fresh state election, knowing that now they have just piss off a huge chunk of supporters who are very fond of their ruler - the shift of votes to the opposition might just see the seats tip back into PAS favor. Many seats in Terengganu was won with less then 2000 majority. It's not hard to imagine the recent actions pissing of thousands in each constituency.

PM might just offer Idris as a sacrificial lamb to the slaughter house. Then reconsolidation of support will take place with infighting among the 22 loyal supporter of Idris, seeing each one is now "a potential MB".

Monsoon Cup is over. Now the Tsunami Cup is coming.....
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written by NickChan, March 24, 2008 14:50:53
why can't sultan of pahang be more like Dr Nazrin or Sultan Mizan
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written by ribena ice, March 24, 2008 15:09:53
why no one is demanding UMNO to apologise to Sultan Mirzan for being so rude and planning the boycott. why when lks did the similar thing, all media were reporting on him being rude, disrespect etc.

so umno and badawi are not? why boycott. u as a leader in umno and the pm should take the right step and discuss the matter with the sultan and find a solution and not encourage boycott. what kind of pm u are showing to us? more shitty govt u are.

t'gganu is the only state now with no mb yet and it is won by your majority.

even the oppo does better in this matter.
shame on you!

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written by penang1, March 24, 2008 15:26:00
written by NickChan, March 24, 2008 | 14:50:53


why can't sultan of pahang be more like Dr Nazrin or Sultan Mizan



Perhaps becoz of Najib Mongolia?


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written by Naha, March 24, 2008 15:32:38
But if this is not possible, the royalty believe that allowing the Terengganu people to speak through new elections may be the solution. New polls may not be advantageous to an Idris-led BN team, not with the largely-Malay electorate knowing the depth of dislike the ruler has for him. It is not likely that PAS can wrest control of the state but BN could lose their comfortable two-thirds majority.


Sounds good to me - but this time, why not DYMM go all the way in setting a precedent for future prime ministers: please use your authority over the Royal Malay Regiments by stationing them at the border crossings and at polling stations. Suspicious buses filled with Bangladeshi tourists should be turned back, and officers be given shoot to kill carte blanche in response to any attempt at vote rigging or voter bullying by police, regualr army or SPR.
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written by Mr Smith, March 24, 2008 15:58:55
By being adamant, UMNO and the PM is not going to win the hearts of the Trengganu folks and the palace.
All he has to do is swallow some pride and get a compromise candidate as MB. Hang that Idris fellow. Why create a greater crisis for the sake of one Idris. Isn't he indispendable?
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written by delCapo, March 24, 2008 16:39:30
Lah, better watch it....pushed hard enough, Tuanku might not just dissolve Terrenganu... maybe you sleepy ass in Parliament too.

Daulat TUANKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by zanie, March 24, 2008 16:40:07
I suggest the sultan stripped off their citizenship of the state. Declare 23 of the ADUN as traitors and forbid them from entering the soil of terengganu for life!Only by disowning them, would they know the lesson..don't ever be a rebel to the sultan!

Daulat tuanku! Daulat Tuanku! Daulat tuanku!
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written by Negarakuku, March 24, 2008 17:36:07
The sultan of T´ganu should Buang all this stupid exco´s from entering the state of T´ganu and let the rakyat of T´ganu decides since it is a deadlock!


Rakyat will call for New Election.

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written by panca, March 24, 2008 17:49:15
The Sultan's choice should be respected and adhered to and stick to it even to the last option otherwise a fresh election would be to end this who's who, let the rakyat decide a clean closely-monitored election, creating more firewall from phantom voters.

The Rakyat would be happy to assist the smooth running of a new state election.
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written by mikefonz, March 24, 2008 18:18:26
We were always reminded of the RUKUN NEGARA. Most of us will remember how to recite it by heart. Now Badawi as our PM have shown us what a true Malaysian he is by his arrogance in confronting our KING who is also the DYMM SULTAN of TERENGGANU. Why is it only Idris Jusoh? We as the Rakyats are now asking for an answer. Badawi as the PM is telling the world that he has the POWER over the KING and this is such an insult to us all Malaysians. Badawi being the head of UMNO and BN should be charged with treason. Unless some level headed party or members within the BN component have the balls to object Badawi the PM then it's too late to save Malaysia. Nobody will have RESPECT for the KING and all the Sultans and Rajas in future. DAULAT TUANKU, DAULAT TUANKU, DAULAT TUANKU
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written by Long Man, March 24, 2008 18:18:55
DAULAT TUANKU!!!
DAULAT TUANKU!!!
DAULAT TUANKU!!!

now only the pm bodola will feel the tekanan... malaysians now know it... thanks rpk...
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written by Long Man, March 24, 2008 18:19:34
sorry.... accidentally pasted...
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written by DontPlayGod, March 24, 2008 18:55:34
Maybe the better way would be to dissolve the state assembly if there is an impasse. Hold another state elections. But then again, this time that "Tun" Rashit will make sure UMNO wins again, as a last favour to UMNO. But if the Trengganu voters overwhelmingly vote for the opposition, then that is something else. No amount of rigging can do much good, even if they bring in the full force of Indonesians and Bangladesh voters(instant Malaysians/bumiputeras).
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written by keep it raw, March 24, 2008 19:21:39
It is truly a Laughing stock for PKR, PAS and DAP in Parliment smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif. Utusan published ''DAP BIADAP''.. NOW, They SHOULD published ''UMNO DURHAKA''..

DAULAT TUANKU!!
DAULAT TUANKU!!
DAULAT TUANKU!!
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written by mimag2005, March 24, 2008 21:09:52

... STRETCH THE TAUT WIRE FURTHER......!!!


Said the “ Unconcern “ while attending a multi cultural event showcasing a top performing lion dance troupe..


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written by malgal, March 24, 2008 22:27:41
Go for fresh elections. Then ppl of Trengganu must make sure the 500 busloads of fake Mycard voters stay out of the polling stations. Whoever wins, wins fair and square. Whoever forms the state exco with the new MB should conduct investigations into the whoever robbed the state coffer, like how each of the houses can cost RM1 million etc etc.
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written by Motherchell, March 25, 2008 01:53:59
I agree with Naha,
"""""This picture will become clearer to Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail if he manages to get an audience with the Malaysian King today to clear issues on the Terengganu state constitution.""""""

As what i see , Sultan Mirza has every right to give his subjects his counsel though not in prolix terms .It is wrong for AG Patail to even think the Sultan has been given wrong advice ----- when i read between the lines i see so much truth in what our Beloved King feels for his subjects . A time has come to say , Enough Is Enough!--- with the MSM churning out all the lies to win the Minds of Malaysians---- UMNO dont realize we are over that bound.

The trouble is , UMNO thinks its an open chequebook. If the Sultan had the freedom to express he will say all that we all say here , of how his subjects have been terribly taken for a ride all these years --If i was the Sultan i would do the same in all his judgments.

Another question arises , with what panache is this so called AG coming up by flipping the laws of the Land suddenly when he is so myopic to read the forwards in the basic Law books for basic crimes. Its a laugh with his string of misleading, deceitful and deceptive performances to the run up to 8thMarch.and before.

In this demeanor by UMNO , i would do the same as Sultan Mirza. The best choice would be to call for fresh elections. and get to do what Naha had expressed in his blog above .

Your Highness Sultan Mirzan , please let us know any thing we can do to help Tuanku and our beloved brothers and sisters of Trangganu to see the truth.
DAULAT TUANKU!
DAULAT TUANKU!
DAULAT TUANKU!
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written by miwaki, March 25, 2008 03:31:46
Does BN has the proof that majority of its assemblymen in Terengganu are behind Idris Jusoh ? All these while we are getting the news from mainstream media and Raja Petra was telling us these assemblymen were actually being locked up and forced to sign the declaration of support.Lets wait and see whether this is true.
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written by artchan, March 25, 2008 06:20:40
AAB is disrespectful to the Sultan..same shit as Idris. While this is happening..that wimp of a PM has no gut to seek an audience with the Sultan? Using threats via the UMNO controlled media, sending his lap dog Gani is not doing any good for AAB. HRH is the KING. AAB as PM please show is Majesty some respect.
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written by Yacob, March 26, 2008 14:32:35
Pak Lah adalah jenis manusia sombong bodoh. Baru dapat bini jin sudah fikir handal. Pak Lah memang bangang dan tidak makan ajar. Dapat nasihat dari orang bodoh dan sombong sebab itu dia jadi bodoh sombong.

Deris Jusuh seekor lagi hidupan yang tidak sama dengan manusia. Cakap tidak serupa bikin. Apa sahaja terlintas dikepalanya yang tidak berotak semuanya disebutkan. Tetap fikir dirinya pandai dan dapat sokongan walaupun dia secara diam-diam tahu yang dirinya sudah kena tipu. Nasibnya mungkin lebih teruk dari Khir Toyo.

Gani Patail bukanlah pandai sangat pasal undang-undang. Jawatan yang dipegang sekarang menjadi busuk disebabkan dirinya. Cakapnya hanya bertaraf budak chambering. Kalau bukan disebabkan pupulariti yang diperolehi dari kes Anwar dulu, si gani itu belum tentu dapat jawatan yang sebegitu hebat. Malangnya disebabkan sigani yang busuk itu, jawatan itu kini telah dianggap terlacur.

Najib, Khairy, Hisapmudim dan UMNO semuanya kini sudah hampir kepenghujung jalan. Apa yang diushakan mereka untuk terus bernafas tampak tempang. Mereka seharusnya keluar beramai-ramai dari UMNO jika tidak mahu tenggelam bersama-sama Pak Lah yang kini sudah mula menjelma menjadi Mat Jenin.
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