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Wake Up Human of the world!!!

Why threatened here and there...let him as a human being choose freely what he want for himself and his future. Let Allah punish him if he had done wrong. Why we must punish him????

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Dear Readers,

The above article is NOT about religious competition.
This artical is about Freedom of Choice. Particularly the freedom to choose any religion.

In Malaysia it is not reflected that way. The BN government has made every effort to block any Malaysian muslim from having this basic Human Right. Ie Lina Joy, etc.

However, the conversion TO Islam is very greatly encouraged with dangling incentives. Some of my non Malay friends have converted to Islam so that they can BENEFIT from the NEP... which is "somehow" extended to muslims of any race. They plainly state that they converted for the sake of a better life.... NOT because they were convinced by the GOOD TEACHINGS of Islam.

So, from my point of view, for a non malay to convert in Malaysia, is mostly not because of the teaching but just the ONLY EASY WAY OUT. This is due to imbalance of the NEP among the races.

But the rather shocking part, once coverted, you can't change your mind. I blame the BN government for hijacking Islam and manipulating it to control the votes. It is clearly stated in the Koran that a Muslim has the RIGHT to LEAVE Islam, if they wish to.... but on the other hand it also says that, Muslims have RIGHT to KILL an ex-muslim.

Contradictory verses or not, i leave it to the Readers but exercising ones right is of HIGHEST IMPORTANCE.

This is one of the SENSITIVE ISSUES that need to be addressed and all the ethic groups must be tolerent of each other.

The imbalance of religion is EVERYWHERE. In certain parts of Europe the ONLY official religion allowed is Catholicism and they practise the same controlling methods as done in Malaysia for Muslims. On the otherhand, UEA, IRAQ, IRAN, SYRIA and ect, Christianity & other religions are given liberty to be practiced. Even christian TV & Radio are allowed.


So Readers, it boils down to this.... FREEDOM OF CHOICE, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, FREEDOM OF WORSHIP and the BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.

So PAS, what is your take?

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What is important matter with this article? Sometimes, priests are also convert themselves to Islam faith. Catholic and Islam '2 x 5' if we are talking about death threat.

So, people who has a spirit of Satan will provoke this news as an issue to do Satan's works. I believe God will punish those people who are neglecting His commandments without asking anyone to take other life.

Congratulation to you Mr. Allam. You should change your life as Prophet Isa Al-Masehu after your conversion. If people spank you one your right cheek, don't forget to give the other left cheek. But, if people want to kill you because of your conversion, just say, "alhamdulila"!

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What Giovarni is true, Conversion is a personal matters..Average population Muslim are really sensitive about this issue, till their madness mind willing to take somebodies life to fullfill their pathetic arrogants and schizophrenic Fatwa. Gladly RPK is not one of them..Hence their are still moderate Muslims in the world.

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No man can guarantee another a place in Heaven, so each person has to make his/her own decision. To threaten one for changing his/her religion is akin to playing God.

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Religion and how one wishes to live one's Life should be a personal matter that does not concern anyone else, as long as he does not hurt anyone or destroy anyone's property in the process.

Basic Human Right and exercise of Free Will, and cornerstone of a mature Democracy. Whether it was done publicly or in private has no bearing on the matter itself - personal preference. Malaysia should not penalize apostate Muslims who have renounced Islam for other religions, or just gave it up to be a free thinker or an agnostic. It should be a basic human right guaranteed under the Constitution.

It is just that the Barisan Najis has made it a political weapon to wield to their advantage.

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he will not be so lucky if he is born Malaysian.

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The Vatican realized the dangers facing Allam due to his actions. I see they are contradicting themselves in their statements. Since they agreed that conversion and apostasy is a personal issue, why did they publicize Allam's conversion? Why put his life in danger? For psy-war against Muslims? Why can't Allam be baptized quietly? Millions of other people do this quietly every day around the globe. Why must you pick Allam for a headline news? I'm concerned Allam will be headline news for the wrong reasons any time now.

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Little dragon. Whats your problem?? Its ok for muslims to show to the world mass conversions to islam and not the other way round. Grow up!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19FU7Yyx4D4&feature=related

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This is a golden opportunity for Muslims to demonstrate that theirs is the religion of peace, and not go mobbing in the streets, rioting, blowing shit up, killing innocents and spewing fartwas and death threats.

But I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

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...why did they publicize Allam's conversion?

I can't hardly see this as a publicity attempt by the Vatican. If Kasee had not posted this article, i wouldn't know about this...

Anyway, it's a matter of personal choice. Let not human make any judgement... that is God's responsibility. Who are we humans... trying to carry out the punishment on behalf of the Almighty as if God is incapable of doing it.

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Religion is a personal matter between the person and his God or Lord. Why justify the conversion with negative comments on his previous religion. He would have my vote if he said why he converted to Christainity and how he felt about it. It should have been done in less publicity enviroment.

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Christianity & Islam is two of the greatest religion and I do not think such a showmanship by the Pope argue well for the peace on earth. As a Christian I welcome Allam into christianity but there is no need for all the publicity although it maybe a major coup for the pope.

We should not allow free publicity for such a gimmick which touch on something that is very personal and between man and God.

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Allam, even if you had disowned God and chose to join the Atheist Association, I will still pray that someone will shine the path as you journey through life, and that you will always be at peace with yourself. Each and everyone of us is here for a purpose, so just do it and don't blame any God for the evil perpetuated by man. Amin.

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Seekjustice? sure kah?

"I "SUSPECT" for every single Muslim like Allam that gleefully denounce Islam, 100 more non-Muslims at the same time around the world are taking on Islam. I "WONDER" why?"

Hehe seekjustice, keep your suspicion to yourself. and your wonderment of your suspicion in your fingertips, in case they need status of your condition.

seekjustice,
"If he is so convinced about that Islam is not it and Christianity is it, then he should not be even scared of death because in death, you simply just go back to The Lord in Heaven."

wow, Nice argument. No wonder so many suicide bomber believe in god.

My God!

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Little dragon. Your posting rated "lowly rated comment" speaks for itself.

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We as Malaysians must realize that there is no such thin as a good "Muslim, Christians, Hindu or Buddhist"; but only good human beings. We must strive to become that, first.

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Little dragon, don't you respect freedom of expression? Is converting a muslim to christianity by the pope so provocative? Would you also "totally condemn" the pope if he converts a buddhist to christianity? If not, why? If yes, then you may have to dedicate your entire life just to condemn everything everybody does because no matter what u do, there are bound to be people who disagree with you.

Instead of condemning the pope, I think you'll do more good by educating the radical muslims to stop their violence (think cartoons), be tolerant and respect people who don't think like them.

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what's the big deal?? a person's religion is is own affair. I converted from.. gee.. a free thinker.. to Chatolic. It's my own business.. why should it be different for a muslim? If it makes u happy.. convert... that is the freedom of believe each and everyone has been given by GOD. Otherwise live a LIE.

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i think u r missing my point. to me, this has nothing at all to do wit d freedom of expression or d freedom of choice, both of which i value.

it has more to do wit d way d vatican has chosen to respond to increasing rift between christians n moslems n d calls to violence by radicals in d islamic world.

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Megahyper

Only God knows but what I know is that I was very emotional when I posted my comments. Purely my own opinion, I may be right but then again I may not be so right. Apologies.

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Megahyper,

Let me try again (I'm less emotional now). Here is an analogy:

When a marriage fails and one of the two parties start to bad-mouth, bicker, slander, etc. the other party, you cannot but think lowly of the former. Especially when the other side of the story is not being heard.

It is a personal choice, which religion you want to go with. So leave and then live and let live!

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I remembered someone wrote in another thread earlier that the prophet Mohammad(pbuh) was at one time taking refuge(from attack) and the then Pope of that time gave Mohammad refuge. The prophet Mohammad, in gratitude, then declared that Catholics will be given the same accord as Muslims(or treated like brothers), or words to that effect.

And that is the reason that Catholics need not convert to Islam if they marry a Muslim and vice-versa, although they may choose to convert to Islam if they so wish.

So, what does this show! After all, Catholicism is just another branch of Christianity, the biggest branch.

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written by DontPlayGod, March 24, 2008 | 19:48:58
I remembered someone wrote in another thread earlier that the prophet Mohammad(pbuh) was at one time taking refuge(from attack) and the then Pope of that time gave Mohammad refuge. The prophet Mohammad, in gratitude, then declared that Catholics will be given the same accord as Muslims(or treated like brothers), or words to that effect.

And that is the reason that Catholics need not convert to Islam if they marry a Muslim and vice-versa, although they may choose to convert to Islam if they so wish.

Not really. Th real reason is that Judaism, Christianity and Islam is coming from the same root - Prophet Abraham. To be specific, Christianity and Judaism is from Prophet Ishaq, whereas Islam is from Prophet Ismail.

So to correct your mistakes, the believers of Judaism, Christinanity and Islam at that time are free to marry among the "people of the book" because those are the people who are still believe in the "oneness" of God as in the earlier book of Jesus and Moses.

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Part I
Magdi Allam Recounts His Path to Conversion

Benedict XVI Baptized the Journalist at Easter Vigil

VATICAN CITY, MARCH 23, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Here is a translation of Magdi Allam's account of his conversion to Catholicism. The Muslim journalist was baptized by Benedict XVI at Saturday's Easter Vigil Mass in St. Peter's Basilica.


An abbreviated form of this account appeared as a letter to Paolo Mieli, the director of the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera. Allam is the paper's deputy director. The Italian version of the complete text is available at magdiallam.it.

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Dear Friends,

I am particularly happy to share with you my immense joy for this Easter of Resurrection that has brought me the gift of the Christian faith. I gladly propose the letter that I sent to the director of the Corriere della Sera, Paolo Mieli, in which I tell the story of the interior journey that brought me to the choice of conversion to Catholicism. This is the complete version of the letter, which was published by the Corriere della Sera only in part.

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Dear Director,

That which I am about to relate to you concerns my choice of religious faith and personal life in which I do not wish to involve in any way the Corriere della Sera, which it has been an honor to be a part of as deputy director "ad personam" since 2003. I write you thus as protagonist of the event, as private citizen.

Yesterday evening I converted to the Christian Catholic religion, renouncing my previous Islamic faith. Thus, I finally saw the light, by divine grace -- the healthy fruit of a long, matured gestation, lived in suffering and joy, together with intimate reflection and conscious and manifest expression. I am especially grateful to his holiness Pope Benedict XVI, who imparted the sacraments of Christian initiation to me, baptism, confirmation and Eucharist, in the Basilica of St. Peter's during the course of the solemn celebration of the Easter Vigil. And I took the simplest and most explicit Christian name: "Cristiano." Since yesterday evening therefore my name is Magdi Crisitano Allam.

For me it is the most beautiful day of [my] life. To acquire the gift of the Christian faith during the commemoration of Christ's resurrection by the hand of the Holy Father is, for a believer, an incomparable and inestimable privilege. At almost 56 [], it is a historical, exceptional and unforgettable event, which marks a radical and definitive turn with respect to the past. The miracle of Christ's resurrection reverberated through my soul, liberating it from the darkness in which the preaching of hatred and intolerance in the face of the "different," uncritically condemned as "enemy," were privileged over love and respect of "neighbor," who is always, an in every case, "person"; thus, as my mind was freed from the obscurantism of an ideology that legitimates lies and deception, violent death that leads to murder and suicide, the blind submission to tyranny, I was able to adhere to the authentic religion of truth, of life and of freedom.

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Part II
On my first Easter as a Christian I not only discovered Jesus, I discovered for the first time the face of the true and only God, who is the God of faith and reason. My conversion to Catholicism is the touching down of a gradual and profound interior meditation from which I could not pull myself away, given that for five years I have been confined to a life under guard, with permanent surveillance at home and a police escort for my every movement, because of death threats and death sentences from Islamic extremists and terrorists, both those in and outside of Italy.

I had to ask myself about the attitude of those who publicly declared fatwas, Islamic juridical verdicts, against me -- I who was a Muslim -- as an "enemy of Islam," "hypocrite because he is a Coptic Christian who pretends to be a Muslim to do damage to Islam," "liar and vilifier of Islam," legitimating my death sentence in this way. I asked myself how it was possible that those who, like me, sincerely and boldly called for a "moderate Islam," assuming the responsibility of exposing themselves in the first person in denouncing Islamic extremism and terrorism, ended up being sentenced to death in the name of Islam on the basis of the Quran. I was forced to see that, beyond the contingency of the phenomenon of Islamic extremism and terrorism that has appeared on a global level, the root of evil is inherent in an Islam that is physiologically violent and historically conflictive.

At the same time providence brought me to meet practicing Catholics of good will who, in virtue of their witness and friendship, gradually became a point of reference in regard to the certainty of truth and the solidity of values. To begin with, among so many friends from Communion and Liberation, I will mention Father Juliàn Carròn; and then there were simple religious such as Father Gabriele Mangiarotti, Sister Maria Gloria Riva, Father Carlo Maurizi and Father Yohannis Lahzi Gaid; there was rediscovery of the Salesians thanks to Father Angelo Tengattini and Father Maurizio Verlezza, which culminated in a renewed friendship with major rector Father Pascual Chavez Villanueva; there was the embrace of top prelates of great humanity like Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Monsignor Luigi Negri, Giancarlo Vecerrica, Gino Romanazzi and, above all, Monsignor Rino Fisichella, who personally accompanied me in the journey of spiritual acceptance of the Christian faith.

But undoubtedly the most extraordinary and important encounter in my decision to convert was that with Pope Benedict XVI, whom I admired and defended as a Muslim for his mastery in setting down the indissoluble link between faith and reason as a basis for authentic religion and human civilization, and to whom I fully adhere as a Christian to inspire me with new light in the fulfillment of the mission God has reserved for me.

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Part III
Mine was a journey that began when at four years old, my mother Safeya -- a believing and practicing Muslim -- in the first in the series of "fortuitous events" that would prove to be not at all the product of chance but rather an integral part of a divine destiny to which all of us have been assigned -- entrusted me to the loving care of Sister Lavinia of the Comboni Missionary Sisters, convinced of the goodness of the education that would be imparted by the Catholic and Italian religious, who had come to Cairo, the city of my birth, to witness to their Christian faith through a work aimed at the common good. I thus began an experience of life in boarding school, followed by the Salesians of the Institute of Don Bosco in junior high and high school, which transmitted to me not only the science of knowledge but above all the awareness of values.

It is thanks to members of Catholic religious orders that I acquired a profoundly and essentially an ethical conception of life, in which the person created in the image and likeness of God is called to undertake a mission that inserts itself in the framework of a universal and eternal design directed toward the interior resurrection of individuals on this earth and the whole of humanity on the day of judgment, which is founded on faith in God and the primacy of values, which is based on the sense of individual responsibility and on the sense of duty toward the collective. It is in virtue of a Christian education and of the sharing of the experience of life with Catholic religious that I cultivated a profound faith in the transcendent dimension and also sought the certainty of truth in absolute and universal values.

There was a time when my mother's loving presence and religious zeal brought me closer to Islam, which I occasionally practiced at a cultural level and in which I believed at a spiritual level according to an interpretation that at the time -- it was the 1970s -- summarily corresponded to a faith respectful of persons and tolerant toward the neighbor, in a context -- that of the Nasser regime -- in which the secular principle of the separation of the religious sphere and the secular sphere prevailed.

My father Muhammad was completely secular and agreed with the opinion of the majority of Egyptians who took the West as a model in regard to individual freedom, social customs and cultural and artistic fashions, even if the political totalitarianism of Nasser and the bellicose ideology of Pan-Arabism that aimed at the physical elimination of Israel unfortunately led to disaster for Egypt and opened the way to the resumption of Pan-Islamism, to the ascent of Islamic extremists to power and the explosion of globalized Islamic terrorism.

The long years at school allowed me to know Catholicism well and up close and the women and men who dedicated their life to serve God in the womb of the Church. Already then I read the Bible and the Gospels and I was especially fascinated by the human and divine figure of Jesus. I had a way to attend Holy Mass and it also happened, only once, that I went to the altar to receive communion. It was a gesture that evidently signaled my attraction to Christianity and my desire to feel a part of the Catholic religious community.

Then, on my arrival in Italy at the beginning of the 1970s between the rivers of student revolts and the difficulties of integration, I went through a period of atheism understood as a faith, which nevertheless was also founded on absolute and universal values. I was never indifferent to the presence of God even if only now I feel that the God of love, of faith and reason reconciles himself completely with the patrimony of values that are rooted in me.

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Part IV
Dear Director, you asked me whether I fear for my life, in the awareness that conversion to Christianity will certainly procure for me yet another, and much more grave, death sentence for apostasy. You are perfectly right. I know what I am headed for but I face my destiny with my head held high, standing upright and with the interior solidity of one who has the certainty of his faith. And I will be more so after the courageous and historical gesture of the Pope, who, as soon has he knew of my desire, immediately agreed to personally impart the Christian sacraments of initiation to me. His Holiness has sent an explicit and revolutionary message to a Church that until now has been too prudent in the conversion of Muslims, abstaining from proselytizing in majority Muslim countries and keeping quiet about the reality of converts in Christian countries. Out of fear. The fear of not being able to protect converts in the face of their being condemned to death for apostasy and fear of repris

For my part, I say that it is time to put an end to the abuse and the violence of Muslims who do not respect the freedom of religious choice. In Italy there are thousands of converts to Islam who live their new faith in peace. But there are also thousands of Muslim converts to Christianity who are forced to hide their faith out of fear of being assassinated by Islamic extremists who lurk among us. By one of those "fortuitous events" that evoke the discreet hand of the Lord, the first article that I wrote for the Corriere on Sept. 3, 2003 was entitled "The new Catacombs of Islamic Converts." It was an investigation of recent Muslim converts to Christianity in Italy who decry their profound spiritual and human solitude in the face of absconding state institutions that do not protect them and the silence of the Church itself. Well, I hope that the Pope's historical gesture and my testimony will lead to the conviction that the moment has come to leave the darkness of the catacombs and to

Dear friends, let us go forward on the way of truth, of life and of freedom with my best wishes for every success and good thing.

Magdi Allam

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By supporting Israel as a Muslim Allam made himself accessory to the war of hatred between Israel and Palestine. Now in doing such a high profile conversion to become a Christian he made himself accessory to the conflicts between Muslim and Christianity.

There is already enough conflicts in the world. We don’t need people to take side in conflicts – but to stand aside and call for cooperation and tolerance for the parties involved. This is what religion is ultimately about.

I am not against Allam conversion to Christian, but the whole incident could have been handled with much more sensitivity.

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written by MasterYoda, March 24, 2008 | 10:11:24

….. It is clearly stated in the Koran that a Muslim has the RIGHT to LEAVE Islam, if they wish to.... but on the other hand it also says that, Muslims have RIGHT to KILL an ex-muslim.

Contradictory verses or not, i leave it to the Readers but exercising ones right is of HIGHEST IMPORTANCE.
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Dear MasterYoda,

You have made a SERIOUS and IRRESPONSIBLE ACCUSATION on the Quran concerning the contradictory verses. WITHOUT QUOTING THE CHAPTER AND VERSE.

As a MASTER you must be FULLY AWARE that making such sweeping statements is unlike a TRUE MASTER BUT MORE OF A FAKE.

So if you are what your name suggest then...please quote the chapters and verse of this contradiction.

Thank you.

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written by Bandit, March 24, 2008 | 13:15:48
Little dragon. Whats your problem?? Its ok for muslims to show to the world mass conversions to islam and not the other way round. Grow up!!!
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Hi Bandit,

I agree..... The choice of embracing a religion is left to the individual.

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Dear MasterYoda,

While awaiting your response.....I quote below few verses from the Holy Qur’an concerning the fate of Apostates in Islam :

Ch 2 V 217..."They ask thee (Mohammed) Concerning fighting In the Prohibited Month. Say: Fighting therein Is a grave (offence); but graver is it In the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith (Islam) and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the hereafter; they will be companions of the fire and will abide therein."

........Here in this Holy Verse we see that Allah Almighty talks about those who leave Islam, and promises them punishment in the day of judgment. Allah Almighty doesn't order the death of those people..........

Ch 5 V 54... "O ye who believe! If any from among you turn back from his faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He (Allah) will love as they will love Him lowly with the believers, Mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproachers of such as find fault. That is the Grace of Allah which He will bestow on whom He (Allah) pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things."

...Here in this Holy Verse we see again Allah Almighty strengthening the faith of the Muslims in Islam by assuring them that whenever they see Muslims leaving Islam they will also see those who join Islam with strong faith and love to Allah Almighty...

Dear MasterYoda, you are probably from one of the Christian denomination.
Let’s see what Christianity has to say about Apostasy.

I am mindful of yours and your fellow Christians feelings...As such I WILL QUOTE PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE...

Deuteronomy Chapter 13...6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;....8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God....

Deuteronomy Chapter 13...12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known......15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again...18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Well you may say this is from the Old Testament AND with coming of Jesus Christ this law is now abrogated.....So....lets see what Jesus got to say.

..Matt 5:17-18...."Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matt23:1-3.....The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.'

MaRk Ch 10 V 17/19..there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?..And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God… Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor thy father and mother.

So as Jesus himself said, you know the commandments don’t you? Keep the commandments, which included killing of apostates as well as those who try to convert you.


P/s. There are other verses in the Bible which gives same DEATH SENTENCE FOR APOSTASY..!!!


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mamig2005,
you attempt to assinate my character.

I will not apologise.

But come now friend and let us reason together.

You quoted that Jesus come the fulfill the Law. notice it Law.In Capital. But what you quoted was not the 10 commandments. One of 10 commendament says that Thou shalt not kill. So to put in perspective, Jesus never endorsed killing. infact, He said that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. So is he contracdicting? below will explain to you.

Next the quotation you gave about the order to kill the anyone who led the Isrealis away from thier religion, for specifically for the Jews.... Not Christians.

so what about the 10 Commandments?

Apparently, no one can keep the law 100% can they? They will alway break some!
So, Jesus said that he will keep the Law (Fulfill) once and for all. and by His death, grant grace to all mankind. so that when they make mistakes, they will be given the grace and mercy to repent.

My quote to your demand: Qur'an 2.256

"There is no compulsion in religion. Surely, the right way has become distinct from error; so whosoever refuses to be led by those who transgress, and believes in Allah, has surely grasped a strong handle which knows no breaking. And Allah is All-Hearing. All-Knowing."

While apostasy is sinful, but it would only be punished in the hereafter (afterlife). Muslims are not keepers over those who go astray to coerce them to accept Islam against their will. The duty of any Muslim is to convey the message and if somebody turns away, then the matter is between him and God. See also 3:20; 3:64; 3:144; 4:80; 5:92; 5:99; 5:105; 6:35; 6:66; 6:104; 6:107; 6:112; 6:149; 10:41; 10:99; 10:108; 24:54; 27:92; 30:52-53; 39:41; 50:45; 88:21-22; 109:6. There are other verses in the Quran which clearly envisage that an apostate is to be given an opportunity until his natural death to return to the fold of Islam, and if he doesn't his punishment is in the next life, not here: Quran 2:217: "…they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever-- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide." The Arabic word that is used here is "fayamut" implies a person dying on his own and not being slain. Quran makes that clear distinction in verse 3:144 which uses two words "matta" (dies) and "qutila" (slain) together [both matta and fayamuth are derived from the same word 'moth' meaning death].

Now read this: Mimag2005,

The punishment for apostasy (riddah) is well-known in Islaamic Sharee’ah. The one who leaves Islam will be asked to repent by the Sharee’ah judge in an Islamic country; if he does not repent and come back to the true religion, he will be killed as a kaafir and apostate, because of the command of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): "Whoever changes his religion, KILL him." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3017).

So Islam is contradictory? I leave it to the readers!

This is my one and only reply to your demand. I will not be replying any more demands. sorry i didn't reply earlier because i din know you wrote until i read the Lowly Rated Comments.. not my fault bro.

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