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My non-Muslim friends think that an Islamic State means you will now be stoned to death and your hands cut off. Some view Islamic laws the same way. Whether it is an Islamic State or Islamic laws they narrow it down to stoning and hand cutting. The Sharia is probably the most misunderstood word today and it is probably opportune that Malaysia Today enlightens our non-Muslim readers on what is meant by the Sharia or what we would normally call ‘Islamic laws’.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Sharia is an Arabic word meaning ‘way’ or ‘path’. In Arabic, ‘Šarīʿat Allāh’ (God’s Law) is traditionally used not only by Muslims but also by Christians and Jews. The western world, however, often refers to the Sharia as an Islamic concept, meaning basically the wide body of Islamic religious law.

The Sharia deals with many aspects of day-to-day life -- politics, economics, banking, business, contracts, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues. So it is not, therefore, just about stoning or the cutting off hands which comes under Hudud, just one branch of the Sharia law. Therefore, the Sharia is more than just about Hudud or criminal law.

The Sharia is not a single code of laws but consists of four sources. The first two sources are the Quran and the Sunnah while the last two are consensus (ijma) and analogy (qiyas). For some Muslims, the Sharia consists of the Quran and Sunnah while for others it also includes classical fiqh (deep understanding), which is in turn derived from consensus and analogy. Mainstream Islam distinguishes between fiqh, which refers to the inferences drawn by scholars, and the Sharia, which refers to the principles that lie behind the fiqh.

Shi'a Muslims reject this approach and consider analogy as akin to innovations (bid'ah). They also reject consensus. So when Malaysian Muslims talk about the Sharia this does mean other Muslims accept this version as well.

The development of fiqh goes back to the time of the early Muslim communities. During this period jurists were more concerned with pragmatic issues of authority and teaching than with theory. Progress in theory happened with the coming of the early Muslim jurist, Muhammad ibn Idris ash-Shafi`i (767-820), who laid down the basic principles of Islamic jurisprudence in his book Al-Risala. This book details the four roots of Islamic law (the Qur'an, Sunnah, ijma, and qiyas) while specifying that the primary Islamic texts (the Qur'an and the hadith) be understood according to objective rules of interpretation derived from careful study of the Arabic language.

A number of important legal concepts and institutions were developed by Islamic jurists during the classical period of Islam, known as the Islamic Golden Age, dated from the 7th to 13th centuries.

According to Muslims, Sharia Law is founded on the teachings of Allah and the acts and sayings of Muhammad as found in the Qur'an and the Sunnah. However, the Sharia was not fully developed during the time of Muhammad but evolved around the various Muslim communities through which it would serve.

When the Sharia began its formation in the desert of Arabia 1,400 years ago a sense of community did not exist yet. Life in the desert was nomadic and tribal. Thus the only factor that tied people together into various tribes was through common ancestry. The Sharia was guided through its development by lifestyles of the tribes in which was initially absorbed into Islam.

After the death of Muhammad, the Sharia continued to undergo fundamental changes, beginning with the reigns of Abu Bakar (632–34) and Umar (634–44) in which many decision-making matters were brought to the attention of Muhammad's closest comrades who decided on the rulings.

In 662, during the reign of Muawiya b. Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, life ceased to be nomadic and undertook an urban transformation, which in turn raised matters not originally covered by Islamic law. Every change of Islamic societies played an active role in developing the Sharia which branches out into Fiqh and Qanun respectively.

Before the 19th century, legal theory was considered the domain of the traditional legal schools of thought. The legal schools followed by most Sunni Muslims are Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki or Shafi`i while most Shi'a Muslims follow the Ja'fari school of thought.

To conclude, I would dispute the argument that the Sharia already existed during the time of the Prophet. I stand by my argument that the Sharia developed over hundreds of years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. For example, if the Sharia is based on four sources (the Qur'an, Sunnah, ijma, and qiyas) how can the Sharia had been already fully developed at the time of the Prophet when three of the four sources came after the death of the Prophet?

References:

http://www.akacademy.eu/

http://www.islamic-sharia.org/

http://huquq.com/

http://tabsir.net/?p=844

http://www.matribunal.com/

http://www.al-mawrid.org/

Further Reading:

  1. Bakhtiar, Laleh and Kevin Reinhart (1996). Encyclopedia of Islamic Law: A Compendium of the Major Schools. Kazi Publications.
  2. Brown, Daniel W. (1996). Rethinking traditions in modern Islamic thought. Cambridge University Press, UK.
  3. Musa, A. Y. Hadith as Scripture: Discussions on The Authority Of Prophetic Traditions in Islam, New York: Palgrave, 2008.
  4. Coulson, Noel James. A history of Islamic law (Islamic surveys). Oxford: University Press, 1964.
  5. Liebesny, Majid &, and Herbert J. (Editors) Khadduri. Law in the Middle East: Volume I: Origin and Development of Islamic Law. Washington D.C.: The Middle East Institute, 1955.
  6. ash-Shafi`i, Muhammad ibn Idris (1993), Risala: Treatise on the Foundations of Islamic Jurisprudence, Islamic Texts Society.
  7. Weiss, Bernard G. (2002). Studies in Islamic Legal Theory. Boston: Brill Academic publishers.
  8. Shahin, Omar (2007), The Muslim Family in Western Society: A Study in Islamic Law (English), Cloverdale Corporation.
  9. Makdisi, John A. (June 1999), "The Islamic Origins of the Common Law", North Carolina Law Review.
  10. Mumisa, Michael (2002) Islamic Law: Theory & Interpretation, Amana Publications.

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written by Richfyf, November 06, 2009 18:55:35
Wow RPK remember the guy who made the statement of learning finance from a street bum, I wonder how will he comment now... Maybe this time he might say Highway bum... but then why would a bum be on the highway unless we is an Umno member checking his daily toll collection.

Your article have always been informative for those 'unqualified" to comment on the subject matter. But then i am not surprise at all being 'kafir' to be label 'unqualified' when a State Mufti is label 'Unqualified' on the subject matter.
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written by Nixcloud, November 06, 2009 19:03:14
What we practice has nothing to do with the Holy Book or the Great Prophet. It is call UMNOriah!
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written by mob1900, November 06, 2009 19:12:39
Little does everyone realized we're now living under AMNO's brand of Islam with condones corruption, intimidation, bigotry, racism, violence, perverting justice, murder and etc.

I don't think we should be afraid of PAS's version of islam since we've weathered shitstorm from Barisan Najis for so many decades. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by gycgocnt, November 06, 2009 19:13:54
Why Non Muslim in Malaysia misunderstanding Islam as a "Extremist Religion". This is the consequence of the ruling government planted from the day the held power.

BN always try to prevent Non-Muslim understand the true Islam. By frightening Non-Muslim is the only way to make them keep their power as long as possible.

Non Muslim know how to live under "Ketuanan Melayu", but they can't imagine how to live under "Ketuanan Islam". So they just keep voting for UMNO even UMNO practices discrimination to them.


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written by Sabahfan, November 06, 2009 19:26:41
Dear Malaysian people...

As a non moslem and kafir and unqualified to comment on the actual arguments in Koran holy book, then I wont comments on the actual teachings.

However, I have EVERY RIGHT to comment on what it means to me as one who HAS the right to practice other religion.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME as a Malaysian right now, is NOT what islam actually means, but what the govt, politicians, socalled religious leaders ARE ACTUALLY DOING IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

What good is it to me when Islam suposed to help me go to heaven, but the leaders are actually making me suffer life right NOW?

So you see, it is does not matter how good Islam is or Syarie is, BUT IT MATTERS how the leaders apply them and enforce them that is the things that affects the population of the world.

As RPK himself said and I quote "It is not the kafir or moslems that gave Islam a bad name, in fact it is the MOSLEMS themselves who gave islam a very bad name"

And because of that, guys like me not only will ever consider converting to Islam, I wont even bother to learn anything about it.

The Moslems must first of all CLEAN THEIR OWN ACTS AND HOUSES before even considering telling me about their religion.

For example, whatever happpen to the American Tourist who vowed never to come back for holiday in Malaysia because some holier than thou moslem came and raid his apartment for being accused of keeping a Malay women, where in fact is was his orang putih wife wearing a Sarong?
UNTIL today, no apoloies, what more compensation, and no lessons learnt by these bigot religious departments.

As for me, a whole lifetime being sidelined, no matter how much is my contribution to society JUST BECAUSE I am not a bumiputra moslem.

BUT I AM THE ORIGINAL SON OF THE SOIL OF SABAH. thats what matters.

Unless and Until the moslem world especially the UMNO regime and even PAS has acknowledge and corrected their actions over the 50 years of Malaysia.. how can I even consider respecting islam or syariah laws?

When I was a the university overseas, the Malay Muslim Association always come to me and accused me of being anti-malaysians just becos i do not want to convert.
THAT IS HOW SERIOUS the bigots from UMNO is.

They says, Islam is a way of life, so that gave them all the powers to impose their islam to others as if they are Gods..

So what is the answer to this from all the moslems in Malaysia?

Shouldnt you Sack the present government and review every laws regarding religion or do they have the feeling of insecurity because they may lose their political powers??

I like a straight answer to all these !!! Answers such as "you dont understand islam" is the biggest bullshit answer i ever heard.
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written by NSTPravda, November 06, 2009 19:28:09
One can explain till one becomes black and blue,
the powers that be will never listen to you
So stop preaching to the pathologically deaf, bro RPK
Nothing you say is OK except Ra$uah $ayang eh!...

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written by Super Admin, November 06, 2009 19:31:00
Dear Sabahfan, don't feel too bad about it. They also say that I don't understand Islam as well. In fact, some even accuse me of lying about Islam. Hey, even the ex-Perlis Mufti was arrested for preaching without a licence even though there is no such thing in Islam.

RPK
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written by cruzeiro, November 06, 2009 20:08:38
Sabahfan,
I wouldn't get too distressed about it if I were you.
The thing is - this attitude you complain about isn't restricted to the Muslim preachers. They exist in Christianity as well - this I say from personal experience - where they'll "threaten" hellfire, unless you live up to their expectations. They make God look real bad ....

The only difference here is, the Christians don't have enough political clout - here or in other countries.
It is what happens when the zealots insist on politicizing religion, or believe that state & religion should mix. They don't believe that politics and power have a corrupting influence on theology. They don't believe that Secularism protects people from religion or religion from itself - they think the idea of secularism is evil, so much so it is considered a "four-letter-word" among the hardcore religious dogmatists.

It will take time for the Muslim world to wake up to that fact - they'll have to go through the same cycle of events that resulted in Martin Luther in Europe, before realize that truth.
Until then, we'll just have to put up with the "revivalist" movement of zealots who'll behave holier-than-thou at every turn - more so in "Islamic" states.

Cheers.
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written by ONGJJJ, November 06, 2009 20:30:56
Misunderstandings from ignorance or propaganda can be easily straightened, however, the misguided or or "half-baked" or "holier than thou" muslims or zealots or just plain bigots are the worse lots that you need to enlighten.
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written by Sabahfan, November 06, 2009 20:34:33
cruzeiro

You are of course right, but I would remind you, that the days of crusades was long gone. The days when christian leaders or kings would chop the head of his wife, like some Henry of England, is long gone. Let someone tries that in the modern world and he will be thrown into his grave.

But hey, in Italy, the european judge even banned the cross from the school walls??

I have fought and debated with a dozen so call christian groups and they all lost. Top of my list was the Mormons whom we all know preach their brand of chritianity in order to enrich their leaders. Hey they can come and deny it or sue me, I just sent one away from my door yesterday.
I only asked him two question.

1. Who is your leader? Answer : Christ
2. Who is your second earthly leader? Answer: he walked away. (simple as that)

If anyone wanna ask you my solution to the worlds religious problem, it is simply this.

Let all the religious leaders preaches and freely competes with one another, including freedom to GO IN AND OUT of any religion.

That way, only the whole free population of earth will be the judge of which one is the correct religion to God, and NOT protected by the laws made by Politicians (top of my list) not by preachers, not by the pope, not by bishops, not by Ustaz or Mullahs, or whoever self declared messenger of god. NONE of their laws is acceptable to me.

LET THE whole of the educated population be the judge of which religious laws is the correct one.

You can say "dream on", but if I have to fight alone, so be it !!!!
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written by hellosunshine, November 06, 2009 20:48:11
Whatever religion one professes or believes in, I truly believe it's between them and their GOD. Preachers or holy men can only preach and guide. If these people want to sin, I believe their GOD will punish them in the hereafter. Over the ages, many atrocities were committed in the name of their respective GODS like the Crusade, the Moslem conquests, the Catholics vs Protestants, Sunnis vs Shia etc. Who are the real sinners? The victor or the vanquished? smilies/wink.gif
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written by sydput, November 06, 2009 20:51:44
I was a practising muslim until several years ago. i realised, religion turned us into devils.
now i serve only God. by respecting all God's creation and by trying to do good and just.
why should i listen to a mufti? were they ordained by God? I don't think so.
Why do they wish for people to embrace a particular religion? Is it to enslave the people? most likely, yes!
Many will be surprise that the 5 daily prayers and friday prayers were never mentioned in the koran. So after the prophet's death, the arabs created it by introducing the hadith, which mentioned that prophet mohamed did pray many times a day.
And the kaabah in mecca! This must be the largest pagan congregation on earth. muslims will go around condemning others for indulging in pagan ritual, or worshipping idols. But muslims do it five times daily without realising it and on the haj, they do their pagan ritual BIG TIME.
The koran, a guide to the sincere, has mentioned that God does not require anything from mankind. But in the next life, we will be judged by our deeds, and not by the number of times we pray or do religious rituals.
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written by Siapabohong, November 06, 2009 21:29:37
Dear RPK,
Very insightful article.
However one problem is not only the non-Muslims who do not really understand Islam, surely they would not understand because it is not their concern but many of the Muslims themselves who actually know very little about their own religion or just supreficial part of the religion. But then these people behave as they know very much and want to impose or to force others to strictly adhere or to compliance to what they swallowly understand.
Another problem which I gathered from my observations and experiences which the majority of the Malays over here take it as that Islam is solely belongs to them. If you were a non-Malay but a Muslim, you were still be looked upon someone outside their sphere. You would not be accepted as part of them though you were a Muslim and till you can behave like them.
Perhaps this is the reason why many look upon the non-Malay Muslims in Malaysia behave more Malay than the Malays. They have to act more Malay because they want to impress the Muslim Malay that they (the non-Malay Muslims) are part of them and want to be accepted in their community.
I remember when I was a young chap, many of my Malay friends asked to become Muslim because in Islam I can enjoy 2 times Hari Raya, can marry 4 wifes, will surely enter heaven even if I do sinful things but a kafir will surely be burned in the 'jahanam' hell and nowhere you were entitle to enter heaven. Then what about 'mesti potong anu itu' to become Muslim! How about 'potong tangan' if you were caught stealing, stone to death if you were caught 'berzina' etc... which is very supreficial in terms of the whole concept or the teaching of the religion.
How about the non-Muslim where they joked that 'your name now is Mohammad So-and-So' when you become a Muslim... and 'you don't take pork, are you a malaicai?'
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written by aeromaverick, November 06, 2009 22:17:06
Truth can have different hues & shades.
Its like different rivers meandering through different lands.
All eventually ending up in different oceans.
Different oceans are eventually one.
Hence, its all the same.
No one river is better or worse than the other.
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written by SocratesI, November 06, 2009 23:06:44

I am an Agnostic, and very proud of it ... I believe in God/ Allah, but to me all religion is either "man-made" for someone to take the reins of power over the ignorant and unenlightened, or "interpreted" by men, who may mean well, but anything that is "interpreted" is never in pristine & original condition. So what I believe is strictly between me and God/ Allah, and no one, but no one, can dictate to me otherwise, save God/ Allah.
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written by Sabahfan, November 06, 2009 23:12:29
Well said, well written socrates....

if only their are just one thousand more of you, all these damned UMNO will be dead meat !!!
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written by batsman, November 06, 2009 23:48:45
Actually cutting off the hand of a thief is not as bad as it sounds unless you are interposing modern life onto life in the Arabian peninsula around 600 AD. The Arabs were nomads, they did not have luxuries such as jails. The most appripriate punishment for a thief was to cut off one of his hands. This is not as brutal as it sounds. The (hopefully reformed) thief can still earn a living. He can tend sheep and ride camels. He can even fight with a sword in one hand although it may be difficult to ride a camel and carry a sword at the same time with only one hand. The nomadic Arabs dealt with social problems in the most efficient method they had for their conditions. Unfortunately scholars kept to the letter of the word instead of adapting to new conditions. This is not the fault original believers.
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written by batsman, November 06, 2009 23:51:40
BTW do you guys know about the conditions of English jails as recently as the time of Charles Dickens? Compared to conditions in English jails then, a man might well choose to have his hand cut off and still retain his freedom.
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written by batsman, November 06, 2009 23:57:14
How many percent of the US population are in jails. Do you know what they do to you in US jails even in modern civilised conditions of today?

Don;t talk about US jails - talk about Malaysian jails or even toilets in police stations. You can lose you life going to the toilet in Malaysian police stations and then not for any crime but just for questioning or suspicion of committing a crime.
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written by batsman, November 07, 2009 00:00:07
Arguing theory on the internet is one thing. Actual conditions on the ground is completely different affair.
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written by Fuminari, November 07, 2009 00:23:10
what the umno goos are potraiting is ...once u don't agree with their tyranny it would be branded as anti islam...it is jus as simple as that!!!to hell with umno!!!
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written by johnT, November 07, 2009 01:32:19
Why Non Muslim so afraid of Ketuanan Islam? Let me give some answer, Muslim can question and argue about Christian Religion, Hindu, Buddha and so whatever without being harm. But can non Muslim question Islam? Even I am not dare to do so cause by doing so you will be charge of insulting Islam and you may go to jail or be headed.

Even RPK as a Muslim also being send to ISA because bla bla bla....
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written by bitterzone, November 07, 2009 02:59:37
MALAYSIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE A SECULAR STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by talk2stop, November 07, 2009 08:08:57
After reading 2 paragraphs I refuse to read further. I think the less I know about religion the better person I am. My heart will show me the path even my mind may not. The world is confused enough and religion is not making it easier.
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written by DontPlayGod, November 07, 2009 09:08:27
Whatever it is, no matter how the sharia came into being by the different sects of Islam, this is something I will never subscribe to or believe in. This is because of my undying belief that we should never ever "play God", because that is what the sharia, in essence is all about, punishing people on behalf of God. And that too despite the fact that there are no punishments mentioned in the Koran for every type of crimes and sins.

For example, in Sudan recently, a woman was given 40 lashes for wearing trousers, because, in the eyes of the Islamic court, wearing trousers is obscene. This means God has communicated with the Islamic court to impose 40 lashes on the woman!! This can only be the conclusion, otherwise, why call it sharia. And, can we really be sure that every word in the Koran is direct from God? (Similarly, too, for the other mainstream religions.)
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written by KotaDamansara73, November 07, 2009 09:16:36
People's perception of Sharia law is that it is a primitive law for primitive people.

Basically RPK is a moderate and partially progressive muslim but pro Shariah law man.

Is Shariah law were to be implemented in Malaysia, no matter how good they said shariah law is, you will see an increase in emigration and money out of this country.

I will never recommend any Malaysia to stay in Malaysia if Shariah law is implemented.
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written by jaz, November 07, 2009 09:31:19
Socrates,

Agree with you 100%. I couldn't put it a better way. What I hate the most are those hypocrites who tells you to go to church, or burn in hell. I'm a good person, I harbor no ill will towards others, I did no evil deeds. Just because I didn't go to church I will burn in hell? I believe God is understanding and forgiving. Surely he would not hold grudges against me because I didn't worship him. If you tell me otherwise. I don't want a God that is 'Kecil hati.'
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written by jaz, November 07, 2009 09:33:04
Here is a quote by Homer Simpson.

"I'm not a bad guy! I work hard, and I love my kids. So why should I spend half my Sunday hearing about how I'm going to Hell?"
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written by DontPlayGod, November 07, 2009 10:01:38
Quote from KotaDamansara73,

"Is Shariah law were to be implemented in Malaysia, no matter how good they said shariah law is, you will see an increase in emigration and money out of this country.

I will never recommend any Malaysia to stay in Malaysia if Shariah law is implemented"

I think so too. The able and non-Muslims will start queuing up to leave en masse. My family will completely close down and sell whatever we have and beat the hell out of here. We don't fancy living in another Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, even with all the claims of the perfect religion and a perfect life.
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written by Siapabohong, November 07, 2009 11:41:15
Dear RPK,
From the above few postings, we can acknowledge almost all (even a few are Muslims) have negative percerption about Islam. Most of them I believe are highly educated and should be very observant of their surrounding and smart enough to read and to analyst and to come to a wise decision of what's going on. And the important part is they are believers of God (or Gods).
Surely there must something which is not right the way Islamic doctorine is practised over here or the way the power that be put it that give rise to the negative attitude of these people, and I strongly believe not because they are ignorant or whatnot. Would God punishes these people for their disobeyment of His command or punishes the power that be or the believers who have painted the negative aspect of the religion...!
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written by Wisdom above, November 07, 2009 14:08:31
Thanks RPK a million for this simple article...." if the Sharia is based on four sources (the Qur'an, Sunnah, ijma, and qiyas)".
Now I only understand WHY there are so much "animosities" and "lack of Spiritual Peace" in the Muslim World? Our problems in Malaysia were & are Man Made ?
Enlightened to note sydput comments ' Many will be surprise that the 5 daily prayers and friday prayers were never mentioned in the Koran.'.SABM.
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written by cruzeiro, November 07, 2009 16:31:44
The dragonheart said,
I say those who stay would be happy as there is a bigger cake to be shared smilies/grin.gif
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Don't start crying if you just end up with a shared cupcake .....
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written by Sabahfan, November 07, 2009 16:42:05
Dragonheart,

You are also right, they wanna those Kafir to leave the country so they can monopolise all the land and riches of this country.

BUT i am staying and fight to the last drop if they impose shariah laws in Sabah.

I only have to shoot one bastard of self-appointed god's rep, even if i have to die for it, and that would be worth it.

Here are my reasons.

1. I am the son of the soil of Sabah, who the hell are the moslems to drive me out? The original religion of Sabah was paganism, and if they are all Kafirs, so who the heck are the Ustas and Mullahs from UMNO and PAS to tell us what to do with out lives?

2. When Malaysia was formed, there is no agreement that Malaysia adalah negara ISLAM as the BTN says in their compulsory course for public servants,
It was agreed official religion is islam ONLY, not to be forced on others.

3. Lastly dragonheart and the rest, running away from Malaysia will NOT help you escape the bullshit of ISLAM.

You wanna migrate to Australia? Hey, the moslems there are already demanding the Australian govt to remove all the crosses in schools and replacing them with the moon.

So you wanna migrate to England? Have you all forgotten the moslem demonstration recently there? They even say the first country islam is gonna take over in Europe is Britain. And what about the bombings there recently?

You wanna go to america? ha ha ha... ironically, the freedom of religion Act is US is helping the moslems to take over, once their number is enough to enter parliament, they will removed the freedom of religion Act to be replaced by COMPULSORY America adalah negara ISLAM...

So why run away? better to stay behind and fight. Yes, i use the mercenary method to fight.

BUT we dont necessarily have to fight, if the moslem politicians and leaders learns to share the whole world with non-moslems instead of monopolistic and dictatorial attitude like the TALIBANS and the bin Ladins....
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written by DontPlayGod, November 07, 2009 23:13:50
sydput,

Good for you, as you still follow the essence of religion and decide for youself what you think God wants of us. I have a former classmate(a doctor), now a naturalized US citizen and an ex-Muslim(m_mak) who emphatically tells me that he is now an atheist. He doesn't believe in the existence of God anymore.

As for me, my only grouse about religion is, "why is it all prophets came to Earth thousands of years ago. So many prophets were mentioned, like Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Jews, Hindus, etc. Why has God stopped sending prophets to us. Why should Mohammad be the last prophet sent down by God? What's going to happen thousands of years after Mohammad's death, and ten's of thousands of years after his death? Are people still expected to talk of Mohammad(Jesus, Buddah, etc.) another 20,000 years down the road? Why is it that we have to adopt as a prophet someone who lived 2000 years ago? Are mankind still supposed to still accept him as a prophet 30,000 years after his death. Just imagine the progress man would have made another 30,000 years from now. People then could be flying amongst the planets like taking taxis to various destinations in K.L. now. Other more advanced civilizations from other planets would have landed on Earth thousands of years ago, and yet we are still talking of Mohammad, Jesus, etc. Are we to understand that God has no intentions to send any other prophet thousands of years from now. Why not send a prophet every century to guide and control the world and its civilizations. Yet we keep on talking of our mainstream prophets as if they are God, when we know full well that they were illiterate.

And there's absolutely no reason why God can't send prophets to us now and in the future to guide manking. Does He not care anymore?
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written by kawaafi, November 09, 2009 00:33:43
salam RPK..

During the time of Prophet Muhammad pbuh, he allow the non Muslim to decide on what rules and system they prefered to be judged on. They were required to accept Islamic rules (alQuran and him (the prophet himself) to make judgment on the non Muslim. They Jews can refer to Torah and the Christians can refer to the Church or Bible..

I believe the same shall prevail if ever Islamic laws will be implemented in Malaysia. There shall be no non muslim hand to be cut off or stone to death..
if a non Muslim had been proven to had stole something and bound to be punish, he/she can decide which rules to be used for him/her..
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