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Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:08

A Thai pathologist testifies that opposition aide Teoh Beng Hock was probably thrown to his death

Teoh, she testified, was apparently alive but unconscious when he hit the roof, judging from the lack of reaction wounds that would have shown he instinctively tried to soften his fall at the last second. According to local media, she said the aide's injuries indicated he could have been strangled.

Asia Sentinel

Appearing before a coroner's court in Kuala Lumpur Wednesday, a respected Thai pathologist testified that an aide to an opposition leader whose body was found on July 16 under mysterious circumstances on a building next to the headquarters of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission probably was murdered.

Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand said the odds were about 80 per cent that the death of Teoh Beng Hock was not a suicide although two government pathologists testified earlier that he apparently had killed himself. Marks on Teoh's body indicated he was probably beaten and sodomized with an unknown instrument, she testified. Nobody has figured out why he would have killed himself, since he was expected to marry his fiancé, who was two months pregnant, on the following Saturday.

Teoh's death is not the only one that Malaysian authorities have been studiously ignoring or put on the back burner. Earlier this year, the Indian community was inflamed by the death of a youth named Kugan Ananthan who died in police custody five days after he was picked up by police for questioning in connection with a car theft case. A post-mortem indicated he had endured several severe beatings prior to his death. Other cases of extreme police brutality, visited upon Malays, Chinese and Indians alike, have been brought to public notice by families, only to have them ignored by authorities.

Dr Pornthip, 54, acknowledged that she had not examined either the site where Teoh's body was found or the body herself, but rather depended on pictures taken by Malaysian officials. She was hired by the Selangor state government, which is held by the Pakatan Rakyat opposition. That had some critics in Kuala Lumpur charging that she could be biased as a witness.

Nonetheless Pornthip, the director-general of Thailand's Central Institute of Forensic Science, is the highly respected author of textbooks on autopsies. She has carried out more than 10,000 autopsies including one on the actor David Carradine, who was found dead in a Bangkok hotel room closet earlier this year after apparently strangling himself in an act of autoeroticism. She was also involved in identifying victims of the disastrous Boxing Day tsunami in 2004. She said she has conducted more than 100 autopsies on individuals who had fallen from high places.

Although she has been called a publicity seeker by Thai police, who have clashed with her on many occasions, her work has been praised by outsiders. She was the first to go public with accusations that 80 men had died of suffocation in the southern Thai city of Thakbai five years ago after they had been trussed up and piled on top of each other in army trucks.

Teoh, she testified, was apparently alive but unconscious when he hit the roof, judging from the lack of reaction wounds that would have shown he instinctively tried to soften his fall at the last second. According to local media, she said the aide's injuries indicated he could have been strangled.

Teoh was being questioned over the use of RM2,400 (US$710) by his boss, Selangor State Executive Council Member Ean Yong Hian Wah, to buy flags for a Merdeka (freedom) Day celebration. He drove himself to the inquiry, police said, adding that he had volunteered to appear for questioning. He had been questioned continually for several hours over the night and, investigators said, had asked for time to rest before driving himself home.

The death has caused outrage across Malaysia, particularly in the Chinese community, which largely believes Teoh died in an interrogation gone wrong.

According media reports, Pornthip testified that the tear in Teoh's anus, which measured 6 cm wide and 2cm long, appeared to have been caused by an object inserted forcefully into him. She noted that pathologists Khairul Aznam Ibrahim from the Hospital Tengku Rahimah Ampuan in Klang and Prashant Naresh Samberkar from the Universiti Malaya Medical Centre in Kuala Lumpur had previously called attention to the laceration, although they testified Teoh had probably committed suicide.

Pornthip also testified that several stripes on Teoh's upper thighs just below the buttocks were inconsistent with injuries caused by a fall. The lines, she suggested, could have been the result of a beating with a stick. She also pointed out several bruises on Teoh's neck, which could have meant he had been strangled. Teoh's skull fracture, she was quoted as saying, was not typical of an injury from a fall, but more compatible with the result of blunt force applied directly to the skull.

"I found contusions on a fracture line, so the fracture could be caused by blunt force injury directly on the skull," she was quoted as saying. Khairul and Prashant previously testified that Teoh might have sustained the head injuries in the fall from the 12th floor of the MACC Selangor headquarters.

But, she said, "For transfer of force, (you) only find ring fractures at the base of the skull along (the) spinal column, not a linear fracture and not a cervical spine fracture."

She also contradicted the idea that one of Teoh's shoes might have come off from the impact, Instead, she said after inspecting the shoes, he might have been dragged to the window where he was thrown over.

Pornthip's testimony dovetails with accusations made in an anonymous letter written in Malay language on MACC stationery sent to the Teoh family's lawyer in August, charging that Hishamuddin Hashim, a top commission official, had conspired with Mohammad Khir Toyo, a leading united Malays National Organisation politician, to conduct corruption probes into opposition politicians, and that Teoh had been brought in for questioning as a part of that effort. The letter stopped short of accusing either Hishamuddin or other offices of being involved in the death.

Since that time, opposition politicians have complained that the files of seven Chinese lawmakers were confiscated by MACC investigators on allegations of misuse of their annual office allocations and so far while the MACC have left Barisan Nasional lawmakers alone.

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written by cheemengwong, October 21, 2009 21:17:11
I am terribly upset over the report that state that there was anal penetration before the fall.

I am fasting and praying for God's intervention in this case as I've lost hope, respect and trust in all the government agencies that handles this case.

I pray for God's intervention into the lives of the people who are involved in the case and acted malicioulsy or concealing the truth.

Those who support my call for fasting and praying can join me and sent me a sms (I fast n pray with you) to 017 628 0587 so that I know I am not fasting and praying alone.

Please.....
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written by rajaphillips, October 21, 2009 21:25:31
Barisan Nasional HAS TO GO at the next GE! Enough is enough, anal penetration is the lowest level, even the word pariah cannot desribe the lowliness of this act.
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written by onnetline, October 21, 2009 21:27:15
Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand said the odds were about 80 per cent that the death of Teoh Beng Hock was not a suicide although two government pathologists testified earlier that he apparently had killed himself.


............ what school or true forensic knowledge does these two government slave dogs or pricks have if they are not corrupted ? ? ?
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written by Ghifarix, October 21, 2009 21:34:27
This was not in your name nor for our “Malayu” cause.

Ya ALLAH! Please don’t let the Gomen get away with this crime - its been a crime too many.
Altantuya was passed on to be sodomized now this young father was tortured to death even sodomized by fellow Muslims.
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written by justice, October 21, 2009 21:34:30
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written by Jilo, October 21, 2009 21:52:32
Teoh Beng Hock saved Selangor from falling into the hands of UMNO.Whether it is the heavenly plan or not does not matter but the essence of this issue is that a young innocent aspirant for a brighter future Malaysia had died under torture and yet remain righteous throughout.Justice is a MUST for TBH.May HELL break loose for those responsible for his death-directly or otherwise.
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written by fredyeoh, October 21, 2009 22:04:33
The half past six goverment doctors who testified that TBH commit suicide must be sack. They are not fit even to be a JAGA KERETA. Real shame in this world.
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written by Namolos, October 21, 2009 22:27:38
Did UMNO and other BN parties really believed that we, the general public, had ever believe that it was NOT a MURDER?

Its an insult to all of us for them to think otherwise.

Worst...TORTURED BEFORE MURDER....ok..''We Will Remember''
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written by Darth Vader, October 21, 2009 22:30:42
Khunying Dr Pornthip is a very respectable figure in her field. I forgotten if it was Discovery Channel or Nat Geo had made a documentary on her personally. This is a great recognition. She speaks with authority as she is very experience in her field.

So it is almost certain that TBH was MURDERED by Dr Pornthip standard.

MACC is GUILTY as far as i am concern.

1Malaysia Murderer.
MALAYSIA SEMUA BOLEH
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written by Bloodhound, October 21, 2009 22:31:28
All is not well in the MACC.

They had been caught out contradicting each other or themselves and also outright lies and trying to suppress evidences from being introduced into the investigation.

When MACC officials starts lying, that means there are issues that MACC are trying to hide or not willing to allow to surface to enable a fully informed investigation to be carried out.

The only reasons for lying is to protect oneself from being discovered to be involved in acts that would place the person in a precarious position as to their involvement. Otherwise, there is no reason for lies and deceits in such serious investigations.

Let them try explaining why they were instructed not to report to the police regarding the "discovery" of the body - it defies all logic! Too busy?? Not concerned?? Don't want to get involved??? The reasons given are all too illogical.

Sure as day follows nights, they will refine their explanation in the near future after some hard thinking. This is like shifting the goal posts in order to keep oneself afloat!

Little did they expected that a world renowned pathologist would be introduced into the case to provide her professional opinion. Now, they will have to explain how the so called local "experts" could have arrived at the conclusions they had derived from their examinations without appearing too stupid. Yes, they played/toyed with the idea of suicide and made a big deal of it in order to create distractions thinking it's business as usual, but Dr. Pornthip presence immediately exposed their lack of knowledge/skill or worse still, unprofessional conducts (if any).

There had been too many cases of cruelty that had gone unpunished because of cover-ups. Too many deaths in custody and too many unruly and ruthless opportunists who bullies the weaker members of society just because they can and because they wears a badge of authority.

All those who involves themselves in unsavoury activities must be brought to justice and punishment must fit the crime!
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written by Larry Jay, October 21, 2009 22:36:31
Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand is a prominent & renowned pathologist. She had made name all over the world in forensic science & have appeared in various TV programs worldwide & lately in Discovery Channel. She have received various international acclaimed awards & recognition for her profession as a Pathologist & distinctively articulate in what she does. She have all this while presented her findings courageously without any fear or favour.

Here we have two bloody pariah dunggus, claiming to be pathologist (a disgrace to the profession) providing findings favorable to the Barisan/UMNO Rotweiller's. These two idiotic zombies should be demoted to Mortuary Department & re-designated as Senior Body Wrappers or Morgue Temperature Controllers.

This whole scenario really stinks & yet, there are majority of Malaysian idiots who still places Barisan/UMNO goons right up to the pedestals.


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written by raven1958, October 21, 2009 22:40:49
The Thais..for all their failings..have greater honour and integrity..

They stand up bravely to injustices. Heck they even give abode to Malaysian communists that this country keeps out reneging on agreements and promises they clearly dont intend to keep.

Now where is that pariah pathologist Prashant from UM and the government kaki ampoo pathologist that stated what was obvious from day one. You cant do anything about the Melayoo no balls pathologist...

But to the University Malaya fellow..the writing is on the wall...either you get out of this country for making us look like fools or we hound you and family down....You are a goner. I will personally write to THES today about University Malaya's complete lack of credibility.

To the Pakatan Rakyat government of Selangor....WELL DONE FOR braving and bringing this world renowned and highly credible pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand.

We Malaysians must hang our heads in shame.
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written by Bloodhound, October 21, 2009 22:43:22
It's about time those employees at the MACC who are in possession of knowledge of events or occurrences leading to Teoh's death to make a stand and come forward to provide information against any perpetrators of criminal acts amongst them (if a crime had been committed).

Otherwise, they will be considered as accessory after the fact and had therefore committed a crime by the simple fact that they knew that a crime had happened but had not reported their awareness to the police.

Come clean now to avoid any potential future charges of being an accessory to a murder (if he was indeed murdered)! Don't play around with your future unless you are willing to serve a jail term when things turn nasty.
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written by onnetline, October 21, 2009 22:44:06
Thanks to the Selangor State government who took the initiative or effort to bring in a credible and independent forensic expert into the case to shed some light on Teoh's death !
......... real interesting comments and findings indeed !

Just wondering what would the ' pride hurt ' forensic ' rookies ' from UMMC and HTAR be bullshitting next to discredit the Thai expert findings.


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written by Bryanwmc, October 21, 2009 22:49:26
only way to be truly effeective is to staff MACC with foreigner top cops maybe on loan from ICAC,SINGAPORE or any other country with top reputation of graft busting,unbiased,unswayed and not intimidated by any ruling party.Give them powers to arrest anyone powerful or not,no fear nor favour.At least till a measure of control is restored and then train up local handselected individuals brave enough and with intergity to take on the powerful elite and bring them quaking to their knees.
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written by Bruce_Lee, October 21, 2009 23:10:44
Apa sudah jadi kepada orang2 Melayu?
Ini ke 'Ketuanan Melayu' yang dijanji oleh UMNO mereka hendak?
Macam mana orang Melayu boleh pura2 tak nampak apa yang dilakukan oleh UMNO atas nama Melayu dan Islam?
Orang2 India dan Cina pun ada yang zalim dan angkuh macam ini. Tapi segelintir je bukan majoriti.

Ini ke erti 'Ketuanan Melayu'?

Saya nampak orang Melayu masih terjerat di Zaman Feudelisma i.e Sultan, Ulama, ...

Kenapa takut sangat Republik Malaysia? Terencat akal?

Ini bukan kawan2 Melayu yang saya bersekolah bersama.

Saya betul rasa terkilan dan sedih bukan takut.

Mereka perlu sedar Tuhan masih hidup.
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written by mikewang, October 21, 2009 23:15:42
80% probably actually reflects the percentage of population who believe Teoh was murdered.

The remaining 20% represents those diehard Ketuanan UMNO supporters who will never accept the truth anyway.
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written by cheekhiaw, October 21, 2009 23:17:15
That lady is calling the thieves that run this country liars and murderers!

xxx
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written by justice6, October 21, 2009 23:36:40
better hope Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand won't end up like our dear Bala.... tomorrow change her findings... and then missing from the surface of Malaysia soil...
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written by Ron, October 21, 2009 23:45:19
Utusan will say the thai pathologist got a fake degree in pathology.Utusan the UMNO proxy.1 Altantuya
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written by KotaDamansara73, October 22, 2009 00:07:18
Orang Melayu tak malu. No malays that you see on the street will agree that the MACC murdered Teoh Beng Hock.
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written by arazak, October 22, 2009 00:08:25
Dr Khairul Azman of Kelang. . ., go fcuk spiders! You have no shame, you son of a bitch, haram jadah!

You are also an accessory to the murderers. I hope they will hang you along with the real murderers!
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written by KotaDamansara73, October 22, 2009 00:10:25
MACC the defender of Ketuanan MELAYU, feudalistic race.
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written by Jajarbink, October 22, 2009 00:51:11
Rot in hell to all the scumbags who involved. Especially bloody toyol.
Wish that DR Pornthip opens A. Kugan's file as well.
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written by tenang, October 22, 2009 01:07:48
KotaDamansara73,

To turn this issue to mostly race issue, you are in support of UMNO-BN way of seeing the world. That is very unfortunate. Asking yourself, how can you get any Malays to support you statements if you trash them as a whole?
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written by Siebel, October 22, 2009 01:15:31
I hope the PR government and the lawyers know how to look after Dr. Pornthip's security.

The MACC officers and Najib are real animals of the lowest form. How can they practice their fast during the fasting month and appear "holier than thou" when behind the scene, they are the very ones who plotted TBH's death.

Why do these murderers need to pray five times a day? Sometimes, I wonder if their God can hear them and see their evil doing.

I am horrified and deepened with sadness for Teoh's wife and family. How would the feel when they hear these torturous revelations from the papers? Just when his mother's tears were drying up, these revelations will cause her sleepless nights again.

I feel so helpless......I can only curse Najis and MACC!!
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written by Bigdawg, October 22, 2009 01:38:00
Careful ! Dr. Porntip ! They C4 girls in these parts, and their visit records to this country are erased.
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written by Jbao, October 22, 2009 03:35:40
Yes the Whole Malaysian system is now on trial. Someone approach me regarding a life & death matter. As a previous QC supervisor he discovered damaging evidence of deliberate cheating and frauds. He brought it up to the management but was forced to resign. He was warned not make trouble or his family would be in danger as clearly evident from a recent accident but his son survived. He can't turn to the police (as the management has some ties to the PDRM). He lives in fear of his life as his lawyer advised he has no case until they actually kill him first. His suspicion of being tailed and watched cannot be used as proof that they want to kill him. They will probably engineer an accident at some lonely stretch of road as he has to travel in his new job. Any legal advice out there? As I said before, there are many companies (especially politically linked ones)short-changing the public. I believe there are many whistle-blowers out there but no-one to protect them or their family. We cannot ask them to expose if we cannot protect them - like what happen to Bala & family etc. The rot is already too deep and there are too few good and honest cops, judges, govt officials etc to clean up the system. So we keep quiet and live in fear.
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written by Bigdawg, October 22, 2009 04:43:00
To Teoh Beng Hock's family :

Dr. Pornthip has kindly offerred to perform a real autopsy.

Take up the offer, if only to determine the truth behind TBH's death.

Even if the BN gomen succeeds in absolving it's guilt,
someday, one day a truly just government will be in place.

Then the truth will prevail, and justice for TBH and his future child
will be done.
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written by shamadz72, October 22, 2009 09:21:59
We should have hired this Thai pathologist in the Altantuya murdered case and who knows, she can probably easily prove to us that Rosmah DNA was there at the crime scene smilies/smiley.gif

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written by johanssm, October 22, 2009 10:04:43
written by shamadz72, October 22, 2009 09:21:59
We should have hired this Thai pathologist in the Altantuya murdered case

KhunYing Dr Pornthip is not for hire but will look into special cases or difficult cases if she is invited and requested to do so.
The Altantuya murder case is very challenging to all forensic expects and the good doctor will certainly take it up as part of a challenge to find the truth.
It is up to Mr Shaaribu to make the request.

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written by alpha1, October 22, 2009 10:15:00
All Malaysian knew from day 1 that TBH did not commit suicide and was murdered by the MACC bastards! They even tried to hoodwink us by fabricating evidence and telling lies of all sorts to make it look like TBH killed himself! Such animals these MACC crooks!! Anyway, GOD will never allow those involved go unpunished, its just a matter of time! Justice for TBH!! smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by Rozlan, October 22, 2009 10:47:12
Who know the next C4 victim might be Dr Pornthip.Somebody please check her entry record at the immigration.It might have been erased.
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written by Surrhead, October 22, 2009 11:22:48
anyone, mass rally to MACC and burn the place down???? hang those motherxxxkers....anyone?? these guys don't now about people's power yet......oh..i am pissed.....
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written by Jit Dharma, October 22, 2009 12:21:26
Thanks Dr.Pornthip, we can't depend on our Coroners. They have sold their
souls and are prepared to be damned by God, rather than be advocates for the
victims, that is, for Beng Hock as well as his family. Knowing this, anyone
who supports the BN prostitutes for any reason is hereby to be considered
a TRAITOR to God and country.
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written by Jit Dharma, October 22, 2009 12:27:13
He was strangled, beaten, tortured and sodomized. I am lost
for words.Najib, this blood too is on your filthy hands.
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written by notsosmart, October 22, 2009 12:36:13
........But, she said, "For transfer of force, (you) only find ring fractures at the base of the skull along (the) spinal column, not a linear fracture and not a cervical spine fracture."..................


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Did our pathologist missed this one? Maybe our 2 useless pathologist should resign and open a CHAR KWEI TEOW or NASI LEMAK stall. Hahaha..................
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written by chuckmoore, October 22, 2009 13:54:32
"Who know the next C4 victim might be Dr Pornthip.Somebody please check her entry record at the immigration.It might have been erased."

Harm a senior Thai civil servant who heads a Thai government agency?

Do that and there will be very serious international repercussions, so the UMNO/BN goons had better not try.
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written by Bloodhound, October 24, 2009 16:59:25
".......She was hired by the Selangor state government, which is held by the Pakatan Rakyat opposition. That had some critics in Kuala Lumpur charging that she could be biased as a witness......."

Those must be some pretty stupid critics to suggest that she would venture to give any biased opinions. She is a world renowned pathologist and is qualified enough to be involved in David Carradine's case. Do you really seriously think that she would provide an opinion which is biased given her stature and reputation?? Nothing will be worth her while to be involved in any inkling of providing any biased statements or opinions least she tarnishes her hard earned position as a world authority in her area of expertise.

Seriously, how dumb can some people be? If you were in her position, do you think you would even allow any such suggestions to tarnish your hard earned reputation, let alone providing a biased opinion. People like her will never perform hara-kiri on her hard earned stature in society.

Stupid, stupid, stupid!
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written by Bloodhound, October 24, 2009 17:21:59
Remember the day the group of members of the coroner inquiry went to the building to inspect the place where the body was found?

Remember that one of the member noticed something like bloodstains on the stairways? That member should have used his hankerchief to do a swipe on the bloodstain to be used as evidence. Unfortunately, the police were asked to examine the stain and we all know what the result of the police examination were!

Are the police covering up evidences? The MACC lawyers are creating all sorts of red herrings to ensure a suicide verdict. Were there any collusions?

Luckily, Dr Pornthip is a straight shooter and a world renowned oned too! Dr Pornthip will not be susceptible to claims of providing any bias opinion because of her world renowned status and her well known character as a straight shooter with no hold barred qualities. Now, the real story will slowly filter out because it has become too big an issue to be able to cover up.

As they try to cover up, there will be more leaks and revelations and the truth will finally surface whilst those who perpetrated the crime will have sleepless nights!

Do the crime, do the time!
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