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We must not only read the letter of the law but also look at what was behind the spirit of the law. And the spirit of the law would have to be considered against the backdrop of the prevailing conditions at that time, say 1,200 years ago.

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Raja Petra Kamarudin

(Bernama) -- The Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim), in collaboration with the Islamic Science University of Malaysia (Usim), will introduce the "Permata Ilmu" programme for Muslim students from next year.

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Jamil Khir Baharom said the programme would be offered to smart students aged between eight and 18 years.

The programme is modelled after the "Permata Negara" programme mooted by the prime minister's wife Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor.

"These smart students will be identified by the school or parents and they will be required to sit for tests which cover religious knowledge as well as science and technology," he told reporters after attending a convocation of Kemas kindergartens in Guar Chempedak division, here today.

For a start, the Permata Ilmu programme would be offered to 100 students, he said.

"Through this programme the government hopes to create a pool of future leaders who are well-versed in religious matters as well as in science and technology," he said.

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Knowledge (ilmu), as we were taught in school in the 1960s, is not about what you know, but about your ability of being able to find information when you need to know. 20 years on and Malaysia’s education system changed. From objective it became subjective. No longer were students taught how to think. They were taught how to memorise. Memorising does not require thinking. You can even memorise Greek and Latin, even if that is not your mother tongue, although that does not mean you know what you are memorising.

And that is how religious education is being perpetuated. Muslims are made to memorise verses of the Quran, sometimes the entire Quran. But that does not mean they understand what these verses mean.

The Qadi or court officials between the mid-600s to the mid-900s took pains to research and interpret the law as laid down by the Quran. By the year 1000, though, they were no longer allowed to use discretion, as in the 300 years before that. Their job was merely to rule based on earlier research and interpretation, although some of those rulings may no longer be applicable to the current situation of that time.

Okay, let us move away from Islamic laws for the meantime and instead look at Malaysia’s secular laws. We have a law called the Internal Security Act. This law was passed by parliament in 1960.

When they tabled this law in parliament it was hotly debated. The opposition leader in parliament then, Darma Raja Seenivasagam, who was also the leader of the People's Progressive Party (PPP), asked the Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister, Tun Abdul Razak, why the need for such a draconian law that allows for detention without trial -- which is a violation of the Federal Constitution of Malaya?

Tun Razak explained that they need this law to combat the communist insurgency. There are about 800 or so communist terrorists operating in the Pahang jungles and along the Malaysian-Thai border and the ISA, if approved by parliament, will be specifically used to combat this problem. Tun Razak assured parliament that the ISA will be used for no other purpose other than to combat the communist insurgency in Malaya.

And with that assurance the ISA was passed into law with the support of the opposition as well.

In 1979, Malaysia signed a peace treaty with the Communist Party of Malaya and, technically, the Emergency was officially declared over. But the ISA was never abrogated or rescinded. The law remained and later was used against political dissidents, currency and passport forgerers, and whatnot. This is a violation of the very purpose of the law as approved by parliament and which also goes against what Tun Razak had promised parliament.

If we go by the letter of the law, no harm has been done because the ISA does not specify that ‘this law is only applicable to communist terrorists and to combat the communist insurgency and for no other purposes’. But if we go by the spirit of the law, then the ISA has been wrongly used.

This would therefore raise the issue of legal and moral. While it may be legally right to use the ISA against those who oppose Umno and Barisan Nasional (since the ISA does not say that it CAN’T be used against those who oppose Umno or Barisan Nasional), is it morally right to do so? So, what may be legal may not be moral. And therefore the morality issue also needs to be looked into. And this means just looking at the letter of the law is not enough. We also need to look into the spirit of the law and if it is legal, but at the same time immoral, then the law needs to be abrogated or rescinded.

And to use the argument that some Umno people use, in that the ISA is required to protect Malay interests, is both illegal as well as immoral. How can the ISA be good for the Malays when more than 90% of those detained under the ISA are Malays?

Even if we want to extend the use of the ISA -- from combating terrorism or the communist insurgency to anything under the sun that threatens national security -- detaining people who question Ketuanan Melayu can never be viewed as threatening national security.

And this brings us back to the laws passed by the Muslim Qadi more than 1,000 years ago. Then, they needed to interpret the law as they saw fit, taking into consideration the social, economic, and security conditions, say, in the year 700. In other words, the Qadi used discretion in applying the laws as the application or punishment for certain crimes was not always specified.

To sum up, the Qadi ruled according to what they thought best at that time but which may no longer apply today.

And this is not only the case for Islamic laws. Even the west had laws that would never be accepted today but which, say in the year 1200, were considered suitable. For example, if you kill a deer, you would be put to death. If you speak against the Monarch, your ears would be cut off. If you refuse to accept that Jesus was the Son of God, you would be burned alive at the stake. If you oppose the state, you would be put to death and your wife and children sold into slavery. And so on and so forth. Those laws were legal then, but, today, such laws would never pass the morality test.

And the same should apply to Islamic laws that may still be considered legal -- since they have never been abrogated or rescinded since they were passed -- but would never pass the morality test today.

Islam has never outlawed slavery. Technically, I can still buy a slave and no one can stop me from doing so. And if it is a female slave then I am permitted to have sex with her. I will never be subjected to the 100 lashes punishment for adultery.

But will society, today, tolerate me buying slaves from a slave market and using the female slaves for my sexual pleasure? It is legal, so what are the police going to do about it? They can’t do a damn thing.

Take the 80 lashes for drinking that I wrote about earlier. If you really want to punish a Muslim for drinking then it must be 80 lashes and not six lashes and a RM5,000 fine. Either you apply Islamic law or you don’t. You can modify it any way you want.

But the Shariah court in Pahang saw fit to modify the law from 80 lashes to only six lashes and a further fine of RM5,000. Why six lashes and a fine of RM5,000? Why not 80 lashes as what earlier Qadi had ruled?

This is because the punishment for drinking is not mentioned in the Quran. The 80 lashes was what Zayd ruled and which was accepted as valid. And Zayd’s ruling was based on the fact that 80 lashes is also the punishment for false allegation of adultery and he considered drinking the same as the crime for false allegation of adultery. That was Zayd’s take on the matter and that was his ruling, not the Quran’s ruling.

So maybe the Pahang judge thought that six lashes and a fine of RM5,000 is good enough for today’s environment. That is why he reduced it from 80 lashes to six lashes and a fine of RM5,000. And this means laws are not carved in stone. They can be changed, if change is necessary, even Islamic laws.

So, while I welcome the move, as reported by Bernama above, to better educate Muslims, it must be an education system based on research and critical thinking. We must not only read the letter of the law but also look at what was behind the spirit of the law. And the spirit of the law would have to be considered against the backdrop of the prevailing conditions at that time, say 1,200 years ago.

Have these conditions changed? Would, therefore, the spirit also have changed? And in that case, does the letter of the law also need to change?

This is what we must teach the young and impressionable minds so that Islam is made a dynamic religion that does not fear change whenever change is due. And if we stick hard and fast to the rule that only the Prophet’s way is the correct way and that any Muslim who apes the non-Muslims becomes an apostate (as some Muslim scholars are of the view), then we would have to sell our cars and buy horses and camels as the motorcar is a non-Muslim invention and certainly not something that the Prophet ever moved around in.

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written by Rainbowseahorse, October 18, 2009 20:06:27
Yes, for better or for worst, change we need and change we must have in order to progress!

ISA & other draconian laws? Sad to say, the power of the day will never let go of that. Why should they when that law is most useful to them! It's like asking a wealthy man to give up all his wealth for the sake of the poorer community.
Or for AP Queen to advocate abolishing the AP system in Malaysia so that cars can be made cheaper for ordinary Malaysians.

Which government in power does not desire a law of "Detention without trial", when that law gives them the absolute right to detain whoever they wishes?? That's a law made in heaven for them...and hell for those who becomes victim because of it.

It takes a very matured and educated people to compel their government to scrap that law....but most Malaysians are deliberately kept in limbo and will continue to be kept that way for sometime to come.
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written by takbolehtahan, October 18, 2009 20:09:52
Yes, we must fight and vote for change. But if we all vote for change, we CAN get rid of ISA, we CAN get rid of the AP system and we CAN bring justice back to Malaysia. So, if we want all these, we have to and must vote for change in the next GE.
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written by rajaphillips, October 18, 2009 20:10:27
If Umno can distinguish between the "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law", it will be Umno 1946 and not Umno Baru as it is today. Thanks to Mahathir a/l Mohamen Iskandar Kutty a new generation has emerged (both in Umno and the nation) that does not and will never understand the power in the doctrine of "the rule of law" and the great need to have responsible lawmakers (Members of Parliment). It is a generation that cannot see the connection between the two.
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written by bobdylan, October 18, 2009 20:23:56
Dearest Uncle Pete,

There are many late bloomers, what if an Einstein was born and doesn't get into the Permata Programme. In malaysia you have to be good from the word go or u'll just miss the boat.
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written by Rainbowseahorse, October 18, 2009 20:29:16
Yes, we must all fight and vote for change!

A very noble, and most worthy one at that too, war cry indeed! Which brings to mind exactly how many of our Malaysian Indians & Chinese voted UMNO in the just concluded Bagan Pinang by-election? Didn't these voters hear the 'war cry' enough times? If this is an indication of how united none-Malay Malaysians are, then we can expect a long2 rocky road before a change in government can materialize.

And, we can be all assured, that in the event that the PKR do become the next government, the first agenda on their table will be to outlaw the ISA law immediately which, as they are now in power, gives them the absolute right to throw any BN politicians into the slammer. Right?? smilies/grin.gif
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written by malsia1206, October 18, 2009 20:37:08
No letter nor spirit of the laws would make any difference when these laws are only applied selectively. The Malaysian Polis and the AG are both reputed, notoriously rather, in this respect in the eyes of the rakyat. All else is academic.
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written by imanj, October 18, 2009 20:56:09
Dear Raja Petra,

While having a shower earlier,I couldn't help but think of what Butek,s comments where in another article,where he didn't hesitate to refer the chinese as pigs..

What came to my mind was,how does any have the odesity to critise when over many years civilisation has evolved not through just one tribe or race,not by one culture or tradition and certainly not by one religion?

Just during the ramadhan,browsing at 'buka puasa' stalls,I came across 'char siew pau and dim sum' stall.The sign said a franchise with owner being Malay..
So with that,does people like Butek think to call chinese pigs,when now they eat what is originally chinese and making it theirs for the next generation of Malays thinking now even our food is copied by the chinese.Same goes for other things like Valentines,birthday celebration or even pastillage/fondant iced tiered wedding cakes,light decorations,firecrackes/fireworks,ang paus and the list is endless.

While anyone chooses to critise another race,they still indulge on another race's concept and invention,some riding on the succes of it while others become slave to the many indulges life has to offer..

If Butek and many others who think to support men in Armani suits,possesing luxurious cars and homes,beautiful expensive offices and these same people act with supremacy when many inventions or creations never began with them in the first place then they ought to know how they live a contradicting life.

I thank you again for another article to gain information with and I do hope it strikes in chord for people to have another minute of realisation...

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written by ONGJJJ, October 18, 2009 21:14:02
No Man is perfect. No Man is infallible. Only God is infallible (if you believe in God). All laws are written (or spoken) by Man (some would claim divinely inspired or even God breathed, so be it). As we know written words (or spoken language) have changed (or a more apt word evolved) with the passage of time, along with Man's progress. So you either change, evolve and adapt or get weeded out & ceased to exist or to be of relevance in due time.
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written by EUGTAN, October 18, 2009 21:31:49
The proposal is a gifted programme for smart students which Rosmah is copying from Singapore. She displayed a lot of interest on her visit to Singapore and on LKY's visit to Malaysia. The difference between the Malaysia and Singapore programme is that the Malaysian one is reserved for Muslims.
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written by hellosunshine, October 18, 2009 21:59:19
Sounds like the umnoputras are trying to set up a Hitler UMNO Youth pre-adolescent league by catching the smart ones young and thus easier to brainwash. As for interpretation of the law, heck, the umnoputras practically raped the Constitution in Perak. smilies/tongue.gif
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written by onnetline, October 18, 2009 22:06:43
(Bernama) -- The Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim), in collaboration with the Islamic Science University of Malaysia (Usim), will introduce the "Permata Ilmu" programme for Muslim students from next year.

Fcukking racist government ............ why nothing for all smart Malaysian students ? ? ?
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written by storm62, October 18, 2009 22:09:18
As far as we know, Malaysia have 2 sets of law...one Islamic (as they claim) and the other British. I'm just wondering if the ISA law was an Islamic one?

when a Muslim raped another Muslim underage girl in Melaka (Malaysia)and a non Muslim who defended the Muslim (underage) victim was jailed, which law did they apply?

can somebody enlightened me please?
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written by Rainbowseahorse, October 18, 2009 22:22:44
Two sets of laws; yah? Hmmmmmmmm......I thought there is only the Laws of UMNOin Malaysia!

If your guys happens to be the perpetrator, and a big durian too at that, then UMNO's laws kicks in and the victim is portrayed as the baddie and the guilty the poor victimized party.

Also in UMNO's Laws, you pay someone or make some poor sod to take the fall for you by manufacturing evidence and changing sworn testimonies to confuse the court into a mistrial.

In the worst case scenario, get your guy out of the country and let the situation cools down and the public to loss interest.

If that still fails to get their guys off the hook, push that poor sucker out of a window somewhere and lied like hell that it was a suicide. Works every time!

Are we clear on the two sets of laws here? Confusing? Me too! smilies/grin.gif
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written by Wisdom above, October 18, 2009 22:47:03
(a)I beg to differ on this para ?...the ISA does not specify that ‘this law is only applicable to communist terrorists and to combat the communist insurgency and for no other purposes’.."Any PERSON " is defined in preamble of ISA as refer to " TERRORIST" and those who bear fire arms and explosive for its selfish intentions... Most ISA civilian detentions were NULL & VOID !Most appeals wrongly filed and wrongly decided? But JUDGES chose best to create PRECEDENTS even it violate the Federal Constitution.
(b)On "the laws passed by the Muslim Qadi more than 1,000 years ago".Since these are Human Laws,I rest my case. And the punishment for drinking is not mentioned in the Quran. The 80 lashes was what Zayd ruled.Now I know why there were so many PROBLEMS in the Real World.FAILURE to OBSERVE "the spirit of the law would have to be considered against the backdrop of the prevailing conditions at that time" will bring much negative consequences as we see today.Laws are meant to correct & nurture life and not to snuff out a LIFE FORM ! SABM
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written by hanisma, October 18, 2009 23:09:25
Does that'Permata Ilmu' programme justify 1Malaysia? Najib bin Rosmah, please answer!
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written by storm62, October 18, 2009 23:13:05
good one hanisma....thats just half Malaysia!
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written by OVERLORD, October 18, 2009 23:23:52
Great!!Go ahead and brainwash our youth with propaganda...breed more incompetent oxford-wannabe has-been!!.....the question of inculcating "The spirit of the law" doesn't even need to be brought up here because we know the so-called perpetrators of "the enlightened" students are a bunch of monkeys themselves! as I see it, UMNO is grooming / investing in it's own twisted future.

Save your breath Pete....firstly, the programme is a blatant discrimination against the general population of students.why help the privileged few when more can be done to help other struggling students?.Secondly,..why must race and religion come into the picture? I find it racially biased towards other minority races. why not create a nationwide programmed for others as well?...
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written by panca, October 18, 2009 23:31:40
Look at Dubai, if ever one day oil runs dry, the economical climate for such a country will stay on to boost in many other ways, a metropolitan city with huge investment from international communities.

But Malaysia with its old folk lore mentality perpetrated by a hegemony government that rule these lost souls/unwakened folks(no questions asked - go-straight-and-die-do-as-I-say by these politikus) we are sure back-tracked 10 years every one leap year by our neighbour. Look at Vietnam and the most obvious, China. Even dealing corruption is a no-nonsense for a communist country. PKFZ is a total blank cheque that the Rakyat will suffer for a long time yet those damned idiotic fools voted a corrupted official and government!

Padan Muka if your livelihood is cursed while you shout Ketuanan Melayu UMNO!
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written by johnT, October 18, 2009 23:33:03
Indirectly ISA is still needed to arrest any non bumiputra who question the privilege of ketuanan M. But they can't say it so direct. And ISA is also needed to arrest the personal enemy of Powerful Ruler.
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written by DontPlayGod, October 18, 2009 23:46:43
If the "rulers" of Islam try interpreting and implementing their rules and judgement where such is not found in the Koran, then it is no longer God(Allah)'s laws, but men's laws. In other words, secular laws. By virture of the definition, syariah means from Allah(God), otherwise it would not be syariah. If, as what RPK wrote, Muslim elders start making their own rules/laws, implementing punishments which are not stated in the Koran, then it is no longer syariah, but secular, as these laws are made by men, and not God.

In the first case, why make laws, and ascribe it to God? Is it because it is easier to implement man-made laws and ascribe it to God? People would find it difficult, nay impossible, to oppose God's laws. A brilliant idea, don't you think so?

Let's face it, the Koran does not prescribe punishment for every crime committed by humankind. So wither the syariah?
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written by onnetline, October 19, 2009 00:18:21
In 1979, Malaysia signed a peace treaty with the Communist Party of Malaya and, technically, the Emergency was officially declared over. But the ISA was never abrogated or rescinded. The law remained and later was used against political dissidents, currency and passport forgerers, and whatnot. This is a violation of the very purpose of the law as approved by parliament and which also goes against what Tun Razak had promised parliament.


Like father like son ......... both racist and shameless hypocrites !
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written by Super Admin, October 19, 2009 00:40:09
Dear Rock, and herein lies the problem. Your view is I have said 'bad things' about Islam. Another reader in an earlier post said I have written 'lies' about Islam. Whenever someone gives a view that is different from yours it is 'bad things' and 'lies'.

Have you not heard of the word 'opinion'? And do you know what opinion means? The fact that we have different opinions is why Islam has been divided into various sects and schools of thought. But that does not mean all the other sects and schools are lying. It is their opinion, which would certainly be different from yours.

RPK
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written by educationist, October 19, 2009 05:01:49
Change, we must.
Change, we can.
But i despair to think of who will lead the charge towards the change that is hope for, change towards a more civil, fair , just and democractic society.
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written by Admiral Tojo, October 19, 2009 10:47:32
And that is why the Quran called the Arabs HYPOCRITES and DISBELIEVERS (9:97-100). One correction Pete, ISLAM is NOT a religion but a state of being, being at peace with all that is around you. No rituals nor dogmas.

The Syariah Law is nothing more than the Arab tribal law that is full of injustices. This law has no place in the evolution of the Human species. Those that hang on to it will end up in turmoil, as it goes against the law of Nature (Sunnatullah - GOD's law).

Those who follow these Arab Laws end up being HYPOCRITES as what the Quran profess. Such is the case of UMNO, PAS and all those confused people out there, going in circles and not progressing anywhere. Look around you and we can see these people performing idiotic acts, day in day out. Their minds have been usurped and shackled by their GODs in fancy garb, unable to THINK and REASON, and lacking common sense. The commentator Rock is one such person.

Wake Up!

Shalom
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written by teo siew chin, October 19, 2009 12:38:24
"....many friends of mine (good muslims) have left this blog...."
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Dear Rock - you and your friends should not leave becos of differences of opinions! Stay. Share your knowledge, your faith. Let us know the goodness of Islam thru you and your friends' eyes and minds.

YM RPK exposes and fights corruption and injustice, just as a good Muslim should do. Surely you support such a fight, no?
On that premise, how can anyone accuse YM RPK of being a bad Muslim!

And are you suggesting that the Muslims who read this blog are bad Muslims?
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written by 98PercentPrimate, October 19, 2009 13:58:04
The project will not be effective.
REAL science and theistic-religion is like oil to water.
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written by 98PercentPrimate, October 19, 2009 13:58:39
Those who want to know about islamic laws please refer it to established institution like syar'iah faculty in IIU (UIA)or many other Islamic institutions found in Malaysia. -Rock

If above, then,
Those who want to know about democracy please refer to USA.
Those who want to know about communist laws please refer to Russia, China or North Korea.
Those who want to know about Nazist laws please refer to Nazists.

To a certain extent, we need to know the specifics of a subject that we are studying, and I believe RPK is very well versed with the said subject of this article.

However, to get an objective meta-view of issues that are contentious within humanity, we need to analyse it from outside the ‘box’ which RPK is doing.
To rely totally on those who are inside the ‘box’, in general, we would only obtain self-interest and bias views.
To obtain a proper understanding and objective view of theistic religions, the last people or institution we need to consult are the believers themselves, for religious matters are very emotionally bound, subliminally based on monstrous primal fears and worst still, are not based on proofs.

In this article, RPK had gone outside the box with reference to the eternal rule, that change is the only constant, everything else is in flux.
The first laws that should have changed, as humans are progressing to be more humane, are the ‘barbaric’ ones like chopping of hand, eye for an eye, and the likes for minor offences.

Using simple intelligence, it would be ridiculous to insist that such ‘barbaric’ laws are god’s (no proof it exists) immutable law that should be kept for 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1million, I billion, I trillion years….. till forever, whence humans will still be chopping hands for minor thefts.
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written by sydput, October 19, 2009 14:41:15
permata programme to search for future leaders who are well versed in religion and scinece and technology

Are they joking. Religion and science and tecnology doesn't mix. By introducing islamic law in institute of higher learning like IIU, IuTM and now, islamic science university of malaysia, it seems like the authorities are actually propagating syariah law full scale.
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written by Rainbowseahorse, October 19, 2009 20:02:44
Remember the once powerful Muslim Ottoman empire? They got to the point where they spent more time fussing over whether their soldiers’ helmet was Islamic enough and neglecting science, which they were once great in, that they were brought down by more developed European weapons.
Religion & Politics just do not mix. Period!
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written by Fart Fart Wah, October 20, 2009 01:14:06
The programme is modelled after the "Permata Negara" programme mooted by the prime minister's wife Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor.


and if nothing works " we can use them to blow people up with c4"
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written by Aria, October 20, 2009 08:00:23
Is education is Malaysia just about memorising!…. after some research and critical thinking the answer is YES! Why can’t we follow the British education system in our malay language?. Our education system is too taxing on our children who have to spend many hours a day memorizing things in order to pass exams. To make it worse, Indian and Chinese children have to study much harder to get into universities due to an unfair quota system which is immoral and therefore unlawful. If university quotas are there because of insufficient government University seats, then why don’t we build more Universities?
This BN government is racist, unfair, wicked and a bunch of morons who fill only their own pockets. The path BN is taking will destroy Malaysia and a change of government is our only hope for survival.
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written by temanmu, October 20, 2009 21:20:06
The Malaysian citizenry is encouraged to go back to the Dark Ages, so that the UMNOistas can rob them blind, live above the Law, and indeed live Paradise on Earth ...

Heaven can Wait!
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written by Tompios, October 20, 2009 22:53:27
I don't know why so many Malaysians are living under palm-shell still. Yes, we need to change indeed! Memorizing without understanding means "brainwash"! La'ilaha'ilala repeated for 7,000 times will create brain's estacy.
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written by PresleyP, October 23, 2009 23:48:25
I guess I know what they gonna teach in the special class. First they will try to brainwash these young genius how the non-Malays had robbed the riches of this country. Make them hate the Chinese Pigs and Indian Cows. Make them the future leader and lead this country into dark age.

Actually there had been such brainwashing schemes in Malaysia since Mahathir era. Ask those Muslim friends of yours who had been on government scholarship to overseas.

Whether we like PKR or PAS or DAP, we need to vote for them for a change. That is the best way to get rid of the rotten system.

We can see a big improvement in the country ever since PR win 1/3 of the seats. We will see more improvement if the PR win over 1/2 of the seats.

To all Malaysians, this is the best option for the country. Our enemy is the rotten government and rotten system. Our enemy is not the other race or our own race. Vote for a better future for Malaysia; vote for a better country for your children.
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