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Wednesday, 05 August 2009 14:38

Hassan Ali, Selangor PAS Commissioner

SELANGOR PAS: BAN ALCOHOL IN MUSLIM AREAS
Malaysiakini | August 4, 2009 | 1:57pm

Selangor PAS wants the Pakatan Rakyat state government to implement a blanket ban on the sale of alcohol in all Muslim-majority areas.

Speaking at a press conference in Shah Alam, Selangor PAS commissioner Hassan Ali said the proposed ban will only concern Muslims and not impinge on the right of non-Muslims to consume alcohol.

Asked if the move would be unfair to non-Muslims living in Muslim-majority areas, the PAS leader said they would just have to travel further to get the beverages.

Hasan also called on the state government to switch the portfolio of DAP exco member Ronnie Liu, who has "meddled in Islamic affairs."

He said Liu, who oversees local councils, had misunderstood the ban and therefore overstepped his jurisdiction.

"We are disappointed when certain quarters intervene in our initiatives to control the sale of alcohol among Muslims," he added. [Source: Malaysiakini]

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written by Kaneeneh, August 05, 2009 14:42:34
That nose will do well in a pussy.
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written by Zym Zym, August 05, 2009 14:48:23
This religion is full of flaws that need strict rules and laws to govern their followers. It can not be told the truth and be critical about it. If you do, the next thing you know is that your house will be burnt to ashes or your head will be resting on a chopping board. It's so pathetic!
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written by smeagrooo, August 05, 2009 14:56:03
Yes, just abit of inconvenience only. Just drive 50km out and u can get ur booze. And S/gor Pas pls dont let Umno set up any branches anymore in S/gor. bad for the youth. If any of them wanted to join umno, get them to drive 50km out. abit of inconvenience only. Not all are umno supporters anyway in S/gor.

Correct ah hASSan?
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written by Wisdom above, August 05, 2009 14:57:22
Just use a Simple Labeling Rules ?
Just place a sticker a WARNING Sign on all Liquor bottles and packages!

AMARAN: ARAK tidak boleh di jual kepada Muslim !
Muslim tidak boleh beli ARAK sebab HARAM !
Pembeli atau Penjual boleh di-DENDA RM15,000= jika disabit kesalahan !
Is this acceptable to all ?
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written by densemy, August 05, 2009 15:07:35
There is a large group of people (usually men) in this country who are incapable of logical thought, consequently they have no common sense

These same people somehow believe they have a god-given right to tell other people what to do

How they get to be in positions where anybody takes notice of them is beyond me
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written by wes wong, August 05, 2009 15:32:15
maisur: what kind of reasoning is that? Have you even read into the reasons why there have been different opinions between them? So you agree with the confiscation of the beer? I don't see how that can be a logical argument
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written by joeawk, August 05, 2009 15:32:57
His face tells me thart he should be in UMNO then In PAS. He is the very Toyol type. He will bleed Selangor dry if he becomes MB.

Let us compare cigarette smoking and beer drinking. No one die from drinking beer but they can become a nuisance after drinking beer, can but not necessary .

Whereas, smoking is a health hazard and a nuisance all the time except away from th public, which is not always the case.

I challenge him to ban smoking, call for a fatwa against smoking. Btw, does this bloke smoke?
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written by Joe, August 05, 2009 15:40:45
For those of you who insult his face, may all your children and children's children look like him.

For those of you who insult his suggestions and actions, well done and keep it up!.

Hidup PKR
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written by Romp, August 05, 2009 15:43:22
If you wanna ban the sale of alcohol in those places, then you should also ban those malays drinking in hotel lounges, karaokes and disco! Also ban yourself for doing adultery! you should also spend more effort to look into our Menteri's for cheating the rakyat's money!.. How about looking into the death of Althantuya??... WTF you wanna spend money and time to remove the sale of alcohol from convenient stores? when those people who buys the drinks should very well know that its haram or not. When some muslims cant be thought, you go around and slap everyone?..
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written by Vivarium, August 05, 2009 15:47:18
The force of faith in Islam is weaker than the force that tempts.
I don't like to watch porn DVD, but I don't prohibit people hawking such itmes in my neighbourhood because I have no right to do so.
Wonder whether this Hassan Ali guy is as pure as someone who never bonked another woman besides his wife.
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written by Ben, August 05, 2009 15:50:55
Is this another self-serving plant out to divided Pakatan? We hope the leadership will not wait for the bug to persist. Start operation debug now.
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written by rocky, August 05, 2009 15:55:35
this man was going to work with Khir 'Disney' Toyo after March,08 and become MB. so remember that. any friction in PR is good for his ambitions I guess.

Beer 10meter or 50kms away, people will go there is they really want the beer. some muslims like portray other muslims as weak.

what next, move Carslberg brewery out of S.Alam or cover the whole thing with a dome cos muslims should not see a brewery, may make them weak.
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written by dkkl, August 05, 2009 16:05:40
Only stupid ppl will follow religion strictly. It only tell us how narrow minded a religion is. If the religion tell them to go and jump from KLCC in order to get to their GOD, I am sure they will...

Did anyone ever know the prophet did drink wine they day before he found Islam? During that time all Arab Quraisy are drinkers and the wine was obviously came from Europe country like Greece.

By right every one can drink some wine, but not to the extent you can drunk and talk nonsense. Some ppl drink to warm your body, some drink for health in order to stimulate blood circulation.

I just do not know how stupid this joker is.... Looks at his face! He really look like A-HOLE
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written by mick_err_stan, August 05, 2009 16:23:54
I believe smoking for Muslim is also haram. Why no ban on cigarettes ?????

If you break the law, the law will judge you. If you go against your religious beliefs, let God judge you. No man should play God.
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written by my2cents, August 05, 2009 16:39:52
A very simple solution to this. Issue a fatwa announcing that any muslim who buys, let alone consume it, will not gain entry into heaven and instead of 72 virgins according to the hadith, they will be given 72 hairy homosexuals. That otta scare them.
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written by JohnQ, August 05, 2009 16:42:32
HOAX normally dont last long, but religion remains the longest lasting one!

Hypocrite!
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written by ragingbull, August 05, 2009 16:45:49
En Hassan Ali should know that such enforcement does not work in a multiracial society.It is better for PAS to educate Muslim on liquor consumption that to enforce a ban.

History tells that Terengganu when PAS band 4D outlet, many so called "Muslim" ( no offense intended) crossed over to the border town of Pahang to buy numbers especially those PDRM officers.

I believe through education and constant reminder through khutbah would be the best interest for everyone.

regards
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written by n2nios, August 05, 2009 16:53:33
I just laughed at the title and i think this guy is not thinking very right. If a non muslim will travel 50km to buy a beer, what will stop a muslim from doing the same...or even maybe stocking it up at their fridge? Alcohol is forbidden in Islam. Everyone knows.If a muslim wanna drink he will drink and most of the time they do it where is hidden place or closed to public eyes...I'm sure most readers will know where are these places. Best of all (rocky) Carlsberg!Shifted?
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written by Vivarium, August 05, 2009 17:20:47
Who shall likely go to heaven :
1) A man who drinks alcohol, but does not corrupt, steal, rob, cheat and kill,
OR
2) A man who does not drink alcohol, but corrupts, steals, robs, cheats and kills.
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written by BurnTan, August 05, 2009 17:39:38
I think it is healthy to have different opinion in between PR as well, rather than the "yes man" type in BN, where YB can't even speak up according to their conscience. However, Ronnie Liu should ask Nik Aziz to fix this fellow instead of "overstepped his jurisdiction" and I think that's the better way to handle this.
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written by beijing, August 05, 2009 17:49:53
If your religion is the religion of peace, you won’t come to stop people selling alcohol.
If your religion is the religions that teach people to behave well, then your follower won’t buy any alcohol no matter where it sells.
If your religion is good why there is still so many (majority) are at the nigh club?
If your religion can teach you behave well, you should well behave like tok guru.
behave yourself before teach others how to behave.
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written by renoir, August 05, 2009 18:01:05
>Hassan Ali said the proposed ban will only concern Muslims and not impinge on the right of non-Muslims to consume alcohol....Asked if the move would be unfair to non-Muslims living in Muslim-majority areas, the PAS leader said they would just have to travel further to get the beverages.]]

With the same logic Hindus and Buddhists might ask for beef to be banned in their areas - which means most parts of our biggest cities - as it would not impinge on the right of Muslims to eat beef. Muslims just have to travel further to get their beef.

What a disgrace to his real boss's slogan of 1Malaysia.
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written by maisur, August 05, 2009 18:03:16
dear beijing

thanx for your advice

FYI, tok guru restricted alcohol sale in kelantan the moment he took over the state in 1990 (only non-muslims are allowed to consume alcohol in kelantan). it has been almost 20 years since the law is implemented and i don't see any non-muslims dying from the law.

perhaps you should learn one or two things about islam from tok guru. or perhaps, you should ask him what is his opinion regarding this beer issue in shah alam. will be very interested to know his answer.

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written by nana tanjung, August 05, 2009 18:18:07
"With the same logic Hindus and Buddhists might ask for beef to be banned in their areas - which means most parts of our biggest cities - as it would not impinge on the right of Muslims to eat beef. Muslims just have to travel further to get their beef."

Too bad Hindus are not the majority in any of our cities. Perhaps we can impose the ban in areas like Brickfiled. That will be it.
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written by nana tanjung, August 05, 2009 18:20:15
Anyway, the Hindus and Buddhists can always try. Call for a referendum. If majority dislike beef at their markets, we should probably stop selling beef. A true Muslim will always respect others.

You can always try.
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written by max_crazy, August 05, 2009 18:42:33
kalau islam tidak di dalam hati,apa undang-undang pun tak guna..la,Yang salah tu...pembeli...dah tahu sendiri seorang muslim kenapa nak langgar lagi ajaran islam .Tindakan yang seharusnya adalah menangkap muslim-muslim yang degil yang hendak membeli minuman yang keras,denda dengan secukupnya atau gantung sampai mati.Bukan memaksa bangsa yang lain untuk menerimanya.
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written by astroace, August 05, 2009 18:51:29
Dear FISIM,
We are all born human but of different faith and culture. We should first understand ourselves of our strength and weakness. All religion are good, they teaches us to become a better person. The sad thing is that we as human beings makes mistakes and we want to change the world without understanding the task involved. Religion is all about our beliefs. We should not act God to impose our beliefs on others. By using force on others to accept our religious beliefs, we will create the negative impact.
This honestly is bad karma. You may think that my beliefs are different from yours, my belief is that we should all be in harmony with our environment and that includes living peacefully with nature and other beings.
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written by Susuit, August 05, 2009 18:56:29
Drive 50 Km away to get booze and come back on the way trafic police will be waiting for you for kopi 'o'.
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written by my2cents, August 05, 2009 19:04:08
Most people here are missing the point. This is not about the evils of alcohol. Its about infringing the rights of non muslims. If a non muslim wants to indulge in alcohol, he can and may do so as it is not against the law. A true muslim who believes that alcohol is evil would never touch it even if it is given free to him let alone sold in some store. Someone here mentioned something about cigarettes. Good Point. The case in point is - choice and not being force into it. Where is the test of a person's religious resolve if the temptation is not in front of him.
Guys, get your perspectives right. Its not about politics, its not about race, its not about whose religion.
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written by harrbm, August 05, 2009 19:16:08

I think the whole issue is NOT about beers, selling beers or buying beers. The issue is winning the VOTERS votes. The majority of VOTERS who are muslim doesn't like beers to be sold near them for reasons only they understood. So lets not sell beers near them. lets hope the majority of VOTERS who muslim will VOTE PAKATAN in any GE. Its all politics.
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written by storm62, August 05, 2009 19:31:54
why don't they start to close down the officer's mess at the army camp and air force camps?....how come we can still buys NAFI beers?
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written by Braino, August 05, 2009 20:00:34
Why don't they close the big beer factory in Shah Alam?...it's definitely to close for comfort?....
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written by densemy, August 05, 2009 20:17:00
In Australia, alcohol remains one of the biggest single causes of road deaths. The annual road death toll is under 1700 (pop 21 mill)

In Malaysia the annual road death toll is around 6,300 (pop 28 mill)

Perhaps PAS should call for a ban on the sale of stupidity in malay dominated communities
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written by archie, August 05, 2009 20:31:21
I don't live in Shah Alam, can someone tell me - are muslims in Shah Alam buying and consuming alcohol to the extent that its sale has to be banned?

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written by cantab, August 05, 2009 20:49:42
Penguatkuasaan undang-undang haruslah ketat. Tidak perlu ban. Misalnya, rokok tidak boleh dijual kepada pelajar-pelajar di bawah 16 tahun. Jikalau terdapat beberapa buah sekolah rendah/menengah di kawasan itu (majoriti pelajar), maka rokok di'ban' penjualan di kawasan itu?????? Setiap pagi, saya nampak pelajar-pelajar membeli sebatang dua rokok dari kedai. Pembeli dan penjual harus ditangkap; bukannya nam mem'ban' kan penjualan dan menyuruh perokok2 dewasa untuk memandu keluar dari kawasan mereka untuk membeli rokok.
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written by InEffective, August 05, 2009 21:19:14

Keep your profanity to yourself.
We already have enough filth from our politicians.

Wrt PAS raising the beer issue, its his choice and his right to raise any issues he wants. (we can agree to disagree).

However PAS may want to think how to do things effectively assuming there is genuine intent. (this approach only makes like look weak, immature, and incapable of accomplishing results of priority)
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written by onnetline, August 05, 2009 21:37:07
Racist and self centred sonofabitch ! ! !
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written by Jivathma, August 05, 2009 21:38:40
Before banning alcohol they should ban corruption, money politics, racist shits, and many which I think would be on the top list ahead of alcohol.

Hinduism too prohibits alcohol (intoxication), meat consumption, gambling, and illicit sex. Now who is following this???

I as a Hindu, would welcome the alcohol ban with open heart but first there are other priorities which comes first.
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written by Logger123, August 05, 2009 21:57:51
Come on folks, lets be reasonable. This chap is just trying to protect potentially wayward Muslims who are definitely weaker in their convictions than him in his, from being tempted by alcohol.

You know, like ensuring that Muslims will not be tempted by the delectable curves of young lissome ladies out for a stroll or out driving or riding their bikes in their shorts and mini skirts. This too has to be banned in Muslim majority areas. And going further a bit, no man and woman walking together without their marriage certificates in Muslim majority areas; you know, haramlah for a woman to talk/walk/hold hands with men who are not their brothers or husbands.

Who knows, this chap may even introduce this absolutely brilliant fatwa issued by Al-Azhar University as follows:

Head of the Al-Azhar Hadith Department: Breastfeeding Allows a Woman to Be With a Man in Private

Dr. Izzat Atiyya explained his fatwa in an interview with Al-Watani Al-Yawm, the weekly of Egypt's ruling National Democratic Front party. He said: "The religious ruling that appears in the Prophet's conduct [Sunna] confirms that breastfeeding allows a man and a woman to be together in private, even if they are not family and if the woman did not nurse the man in his infancy, before he was weaned - providing that their being together serves some purpose, religious or secular..
More on this at: http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA35507

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written by Highway16, August 05, 2009 22:04:32
Just label ever booze bottle with
"No 50 virgins for you!"

Cheers and Yam Seng!
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written by Vic, August 05, 2009 22:12:15
Well much have been said. And it is very disturbing. Now what is wrong with alcohol. Did not God creates human who in turn founded alcohol. Do you know that alcohol is also medicine? It came from plants, like rice, pineapple, grape etc. What happens if one day someone discover that alcohol can prolong your sexual desire, like some claim that tonkat ail does. Or maybe you can prolong your live by consuming them... Tigers are dangerous maneater, why now we have to lebel them as endanger species?
There must be a 'balance' in all things created. This rule applys in all creation...having too much is as bad as having too little nor do moderation is always the best.
We are barking at the wrong tree here. Get off the air you stupid fools. You are insulting my two cents worth of intelligent.
I am not supporting the ban because I encouraged the drunks...get me!
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written by mikewang, August 05, 2009 22:15:10
I am not an alcoholic but I do enjoy an occasional cold beer or whiskey on the rocks.
If you deprive me of that right I'll surely campaign again you.
As far as I am concerned, it hits my right more directly than any high level arrogance or corruption.

I am sure many non-Muslim Malaysians think like me too.
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written by Sendirimahuingat, August 05, 2009 22:23:22
if this is the case can we tell Carlberg to get out from Shah Alam........
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written by SamBall, August 05, 2009 22:45:40
ya Allah, Ali tak ada kerja lain ke, petty and mindless!

Come up with something a beyond nitty bitty iffty things, la. Jangan jadi bodoh, Ali. Don't be small minded Ali; think big boy!
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written by bumiku, August 05, 2009 22:46:57
Dear Hassan Ali,
I am not a muslim and i see alcohol sold everywhere BUT I do not consume alcohol.. Alcohol consumption is all about the individuals.. if you teach/guide them well, you would not fear them being misguided. So, instead of prevention, why do you not try education and guidance? Or are you telling me with all the religious guidance you are giving your fellow muslim, yet, they are breaching ur religion law? Then there must be something real wrong with the way you are guiding your followers, no? Instead of faulting others, I believe you religion teachs you yo look within. that is look at yourself. ask yourself what is wrong with your guidance, why are the followers not listening.

try this instead of your current high-handed ways.. try being a true muslim, like Tok Guru, pls.
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written by DontPlayGod, August 05, 2009 22:59:42
Well, folks, it's only a matter of time when Malaysia will be turned into Taliban Malaysia,from what we can already see of the fanatics from PAS. Don't forget fanatical Muslims do not exist only in PAS, but also in PKR and UMNO too.

And this is something our political analysts, including those M-T readers and writers forget. It has been written before that PAS cannot have enought MP's to make up 2/3rds of our our Parliament. I agree, but in the not too distant future, fanatical Muslims from all the parties can form more than 2/3rds of parliamentarians, and for a common cause(forming the Islamic state), these parliamentarians from the various parties can join forces to vote for an Islamic state, proposed, of course, by PAS.
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written by SiHangChai, August 05, 2009 23:06:03
If I see him, I will splash him with beer shower. What wrong with Alcohol in this religion. I believe no one can answer except blindly said the script says so. the Arabs consumed grape juice dazed with fregmented grapes for centuries which actually has turned into alcohol grape drink. So?

ANyway Malaysia has law in governing alcohol, and ADUN Teng has every rights to scold these PAS bastards for not following the laws. Alcohol can be removed, but the laws has to be respected first. We also respect the religion but let the law takes it course and not to be self-declared god. to those PAS idiots who involved in this, screw you all.
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written by jangantipu, August 05, 2009 23:29:14
Aiyoh, Hassan. Are Muslims so weak that you need to control every little thing in their lives? If a person is morally upright and very pious, he will know what is right or wrong and be able resist temptation. You must be a mole for Ameno, trying to stir shit in Pakatan. PR must stay united to win the next GE.

My family and I will never vote for you, Wee Choo Keong, Zulkifli Nordin and Ibrahim Ali if ever you come to my place to stand for election.
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written by bumiputeri, August 05, 2009 23:30:10
Encik Hassan Ali,

Seperti yang Encik sendiri dapat baca dari komen-komen di atas, encik tahu bahawa yang bukan Muslim ramai yang marah dengan cadangan encik. Walaupun orang-rang seperti saya bersetuju dengan apa sahaja cadangan daripada mana-mana pihak yang membawa kebaikan kepada umat manusia, bukan sahaja yang bergelar Islam, namun begitu, hati kami tertanya-tanya, dan ada beberapa persoalan yang sentiasa bermain dalam benak kami tentang orang Islam di Malaysia, dan di dunia seluruhnya: Kalau boleh jawablah, teringin sangat saya nak mendengar jawapannya:

1. Mengapa begitu banyak kes rogol, anak gadis hamil luar nikah dan anak gadis lari dari rumah di kelantan dan Terengganu serta dalam kalangan orang Melayu umumnya? Saya pernah menonton dokumentari di televisyen tentang pusat-pusat pemulihan akhlak untuk lelaki dan perempuan dan cerita penghuni-penghuninya yang begitu muda sungguh tak boleh percaya. Apa yang tak kena dengan ajaran Islam yang mereka dapat?

2. Lemah sangatkah lelaki Islam hingga perempuan yang lalu depan mereka kena tutup ini dan itu. Lelaki agama lain tak jadi apa-apa pun even bila ada perempuan pakai bikini lalu depan mereka?

3. Kuat sangatkah nafsu lelaki Islam hingga seorang lelaki mesti membaham empat orang perempuan untuk memuaskan nafsunya? Orang lain ok aje? Tak ade apa pun?

4. Kenapa orang Islam selalu melarang ini dan itu dan tak pernah fikirkan masalah yang mereka timbulkan kepada orang lain semata-mata kerana mereka nak mengamalkan ajaran agama mereka? Di jimnasium, mesti ada hari-hari untuk perempuan sahaja exercise so that Muslim women can go and exercise, sebetulnya, lelaki bukan Islam tak pun pusing atau pandang perempuan Islam ini kerana banyak lagi Menachi atau Ah Moi yang lagi seksi.Kalau ada keramaian dihadiri orang Islam, tak boleh masak babi, tapi banyak orang India dan Buddha dan Kristian juga pada waktu-waktu tertentu, yang tak makan daging atau makan sayur aje, tak pernah orang Islam peduli dan masak aje daging lembu dan menghina mereka dan membiarkan mereka kebuluran?

5. Adakah Islam mengajar orang Islam hanya fikirkan diri mereka dan pentingkan diri mereka dan langsung tak peduli dan menghiraukan orang lain? Dengan sikap begini, adakah orang Islam berharap orang bukan Islam akan terus menghormati mereka dan mencintai Islam?

6. Mengapa orang PAS tidak pernah bercakap atau make a big hu haah abaout other serious issues like pembunuhan, rasuah, penipuan, rompakan duit rakyat, merampas hak orang lain, kerja yang haram dari segi Islam, wanita Islam bekerja , kerja malam, menghina dan memperlekehkan orang lain, dan banyak lagi yang begitu menyiat dan mengguris hati orang bukan Islam?????

Betulkah PAS seperti Hassan Ali mengembangkan Islam atau hanya sekadar main politik????
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written by temenggong, August 06, 2009 00:12:02
Well actually, a pint of guinness stout and two raw eggs does improve the sexual performance. It is the javanese viagra. I lived there for some years, so I should know.

It works even better if the woman consumes it. Trust the ole temenggong! smilies/grin.gif
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written by advocatusdiaboli, August 06, 2009 00:26:06
temenggong you naughty fella smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif This guinness stout is really the elixir of many ailments.Thanks for the new tip. Anyway, I think this Hassan fella had one too many drinks on the sly also. He is already talking cock. There is so much to do in Selangor but this bloody fool is more concerned about beer. So what if beer is sold in Selangor? Specifically which part of your backside hurts? Maybe we can get Saifool to help you. I like to drink once in a while and i would like to just pop into 7-11 to get a few bottles or cans and drink it at my own place. Is that an offence? Hassan its better for you to migrate to Afghanistan and join the Taliban lah. If you want a drink and cannot afford it then I will gladly buy you one lah. Otherwise get on with more serious work like eradicating corruption and making Selangor a safe place and don't talk cock.
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written by Dr.bern, August 06, 2009 00:30:24
Dear readers,
Please don't make any comment which may hurt many devoted muslim readers.Please study about Islam regarding alcohol first before writing your comments.Many of the muslims who voted for pakatan rakyat wants to see that alcohol is ban in muslim majority areas.This was one of the issues where UMNO state gov't have failed to implement(you may find out, why?).Please, there should be give and take in the Pakatan Rakyat gov't. I don't think PAS is asking something which difficult to be implemented.Believe me, if the PR can implement this, many more votes from Malay community will be given to PR in the next election.(it could be from UMNO members). By doing this it shows that PR is much better than BN who just doing their lip service.(-muslim voter who voted for PR in 12 GE)
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written by amoker, August 06, 2009 00:36:19
I am a non muslim and i disagree with the labelling. Hassan Ali can make demands but we are falling into his trap.

Look at the statements here and you know that he has managed to rattle many of us. Remember, PR works in a way that all 3 parties need to agree. Hassan Ali is not PAS, is not even PAS Selangor ( until he ousted a few people ). He is the blackhand that talks to UMNO, the kind that Nasharuddin would party with. I respect tok guru but not these 2 chaps. And by coincidence, another UMNO potential called Zul Noordin came out to support. By pure coincidence?

All these are targetted at Ronnie Liew. remember , the MACC investigation is also targetted at Ronnie Liew. I smell huge rats here.
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written by BUTEK, August 06, 2009 01:26:40
INI NEGARA MAJORITY UMAT ISLAM BUKAN NEGARA RAKYAT YG MAKAN BABI LAA TONGGONG!!! ARAK TAK BULEY JUAL KAT UMAT MELAYU ISLAM... HANYA UMNO CELAKER YG HALALKAN ARAK...
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written by BUTEK, August 06, 2009 01:27:25
UNDILAH UMNO KALO MAHU ARAK DIJUAL SECARA BERLALUASA!!! UNDILAH UMNO....
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written by renoir, August 06, 2009 02:15:13
nana tanjung wrote:
>Too bad Hindus are not the majority in any of our cities. Perhaps we can impose the ban in areas like Brickfiled.]]

That exactly covers what I wrote:
"Hindus and Buddhists might ask for beef to be banned in their areas - which means most PARTS of our biggest cities..."

So yes, Brickfields would be one. Like the Hindus many Buddhists also don't take beef, especially on Fridays and special occasions. United, the two communities can really stop the sale of beef in those areas IF they want to act like that UMNO mole.

LChuah
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written by mowadoha, August 06, 2009 03:04:04
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written by macakmy, August 06, 2009 03:40:16
I am a Malay and a Muslim. I do not agree with the ban simply because it is not part of Islam. Yes, Islam forbids MUSLIMS from alcoholic consumption. But, it is strictly applicable to the MUSLIMS. And Islam do not forbid sales and consumption of alcohol by NON-MUSLIMS. Lakum Dinnukum Waliyadin. To you your religion and to me mine. Non-Muslims must be guaranteed freedom to practice their religion and live their lives as they see fit.

Ban it from the MUSLIMS and make sure it is truly enforced (if you really feel strongly about it). But, do not infringe on the rights of the Non-Muslims as Islam forbids any form of cruelty, be it on Muslims or otherwise. Truly your action does more harm to Islam than good for others shall perceive Islam as unfair. Do not attemp to do Islam and God any favour as Allah The Almighty is above that. Just follow the teachings and do not ever try to associate your "bright" ideas or actions with Islam and Allah.

To those ignorant fools, NAAFI which stands for Navy, Army & Air Force Institution was a British legacy which no longer exist in the Malaysian Armed Forces. The Malaysian Armed Forces Messes has been running "dry" since the late 80's. Consumption of alcohol is also banned in their bases, ships and aircrafts. PERNAMA which stands for Perwira Niaga Malaysia sells alcoholic beverages only to NON-MUSLIM servicemen with a certain quota.
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written by Urangsabah, August 06, 2009 09:31:53
Hassan, you got the quality of UMNO Mat Rempit, why don't you join them bring along Dzul of PKR....It better to lose you now that have you as back stabber.

Both of you are determined together with UMNO bring down the PR, leav now amybe you could be the MENTRI BESAR of Selangor.
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written by mick_err_stan, August 06, 2009 09:49:41
Malaysia is a Muslim majority area.....may as well ban alcohol in Malaysia...sic!
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written by DreamLady, August 06, 2009 10:15:45
Hassan Ali, consult those PR people before you make any decision. As a Muslim, you got to learn to respect the non-Muslims' rights, instead of throwing your weights around hiding behind the Islamic banner..

I agree with Bumiputri's statement and reasons that you should focus on the impending issues such as rapes, corruption, unemployment. I would like to add another chore for you: STOP the trojan horses from multiplying under your wing!!
and there should not be any more secret dealings with UMNO!!!

A final advice: BE LOYAL AND SINCERE TO THE PARTY YOUR HAVE PLEDGED YOUR LOYALTY TO. In short, never to double-cross those who vote you in to your present status!!!

Learn to appreciate gratitude, learn to be humble, in case you have forgotten, we are responsible for what you are having now-------------POWER!!!
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written by lamakawan, August 06, 2009 21:27:38
Dr bern, if PR bans sale of beer , you think people from UMNO will vote PR?
You must be day dreaming!!!
UMNO is only waiting for internal fights among PR members so that they will have the necessary points to fire come election campaign time.
The few votes you gain by pleasing a few people to ban sale of beer is certainly a very high price to pay. Surely the Selangor state gomen has mpore important things to do than to fight among themselves to ban the sales of beer!!!!!!!!
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written by Dr.bern, August 07, 2009 14:44:58
Dear Lamakawan,
PAS is not asking for the moon or stars,They are asking for the areas where the majority are muslim let say 90% such as SHAH ALAM and BANGI. Alcoholic shall be ban for selling.I don't thing this will hurt the non-muslims if they still want to drink at other places.At other places like PJ,Kelana jaya and other places where the majority are less than 90%, BAU(business as usual). By implementing this shows that PR gov't is really sincere in improving the social life of the people under their jurisdiction.TQ
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