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Sunday, 05 July 2009 01:02

I am writing this piece on lawyers not only from personal experience but from numerous comments from all walks of life. I am not going to mention names at least not in this piece though I wish I could, at some time in future.

Lawyers are a group of people with a small amount of education perhaps a mere three years. Yet they call themselves professionals. Well I give them that privilege to be referred to as professionals though I wonder if they themselves know and behave as professionals.

 

If you visit any of the courts in the country be it magistrates court, sessions court, High courts or even the Supreme court or the Federal court you will see a whole array of lawyers dressed in black. It is the black coverings that make me wonder most of the time. Why the dark coverings ? From an everyday point of view black dress is symbolic of mourning, sadness, death.  Black is the color of dirt and all things evil. It hides the unclean clothes, be it from dirt, filth or what you may.  I have often asked myself  whether the black clothes worn by lawyers make them into what they are not meant to be. Are thy hiding themselves from the unclean character or is it the black itself has molded themselves into all things wicked or bad or unclean.

 

My experience with lawyers as well as that of many people are certainly far from anything good but indeed disappointing.

 

If you take any lawyers be it the junior or the senior ones the one and only character that stands out straight on our faces is their almost desperate desire to devour us whole sale. They act like sharks in its full form. Their one and only desire in life is to see how they could trap you into their cages and then slash you, cripple you and I will go further to say they would not even mind mutilating you till you would have lost all sense of balance and rhythm of life. When I say trap you, I mean they would use all their legal tricks to charm and connive you into believing that they are their saviors of injustice and that they would even challenge any judge to prove them otherwise. When I say slash you, cripple you and mutilate you I mean it is the extent of physical harm and mental anguish they can cause by their exorbitant fees that can run into 100's of thousands of Ringgit that can spread into one's life time to settle.

 

This humpty dumpty exercise is all done in closed chambers which they rightfully call their consultation chambers. After having convinced them that they are their only savior in this world to fight for their justice then they would go on to the topic of fees. They would start with an opening salvo of  let us say RM 10,000 which gives them the room to flirt around the bargaining chip. The poor and desperate may agree to raise some of the demanded sums of money. Some may agree to raise RM3,000 or some 5,000.00 just to satisfy the unquenchable thirst for the Ringgit by the shark in the guise of the lawyer. But woe be the poor litigant's soul for he hopes he could receive his justice in the court. Little did he realize that a month or later from that day would be the beginning of his financial calamities. The litigant would then receive a call from the lawyers's office that he is wanted by the lawyer for an urgent meeting to discuss the case.  The lawyer would then breathe down a frightening scenario on the case to the frightened litigant and would then demand another, let us say, RM10,000 before he could go to court. The litigant would then plead and beg on the fees and the all powerful lawyer would refuse or may throw a small discount and the frightened litigant would then run out looking for cash from relatives, friends or from loan sharks and then go and pay the money to the lawyer.

 

The truth of the matter is that the case maybe far away before it could be even set for mention in court. But the lawyer puts to him in such a away as if it is set for full trial tomorrow morning. The truth is that he wanted to pay for the down payment to change his car to a bigger model. Or he would have ordered for a new and expensive suit to attend a banquet dinner at a five star hotel. There have been instances wherein after three months the lawyer would demand for RM30,000 when the original fee agreed by the lawyer was  RM10,000 There is an instance wherein I know personally  of a lawyer who demanded for RM150,000 after six months on taking the brief after agreeing to charge RM10,000.00 The lawyer made it sound as if he is the one and only one who could fight for justice in this country as far as that case was concerned. Of course the litigant had no choice but to use nasty language on the lawyer and dismissed him, but in the process he lost the initial sum of RM10,000 paid to the lawyer when the case was merely filed and had not been set for trial. The lawyer pocketed RM10,000 while the litigant lost that money and ended up paying more money trying to engage another lawyer.  This apparently is what happens all the time among most litigants and there is little or no hope for any from the sharking activities of lawyers. Why? I can't understand. Why have they become totally oblivious to human feelings or human care.

 

I would reckon lawyers are a desperate lot as they want to be seen living in luxurious houses, driving around in expensive cars and dining in expensive hotels. This has been a trend set by the senior lawyers and therefore any junior lawyer develops the same character devoid of any decency or conduct.  

 

As I see it the professional decorum or the professional behavior of lawyers seem to be non existent. Where is the care and the concern for a litigant looking for justice. The injustice starts from the lawyers office itself  and really not from the party that caused the injustice for which he hoped to take it to the courts.  Where is the sense of financial means of an ordinary citizen?  The country' s per capita income should be the yardstick to pay for his expenses.

 

What is per capita income?

 

Per capita income means how much each individual receives, in monetary terms, of the yearly income generated in the country. This is what each citizen is to receive if the yearly national income is divided equally among everyone. Per capita income is usually reported in units of currency per year.

 

According to Aliran Monthly 2004:2

 

Malaysian household income distribution as quoted in the Eighth Malaysia Plan, 75 per cent of Malaysian households earn below RM3,000 per month and 25 per cent of households earn below RM1,000 monthly.

 

If the per capita income of a Malaysian is RM36,000, then I would reckon that the average citizen would be earning about RM3,000 per month. How much of the RM 3000/- is left after paying for his essential payments that includes, food, clothing, car loans, housing loans , utilities etc etc  is anyone's guess. There is nothing much less. However, if the lawyer pretends to be unaware of the citizens financial means and that he expects HIS CLIENT  to go and fetch such ridiculous sums which is beyond his means then the profession is made up of inhuman creatures who call themselves lawyers. They obviously received the wrong training and they have abdicated all professional courtesies and decency.

 

What happened to their professional ethics? Has it become non existent? I would think so. I remember being told by a lawyer a few years ago that all he needs is about three cases a month and he is set for life as he knows he can continue milking them for a very long time. Believe me it was disgusting. The lawyer never solves anyone's problem. He will never do that. His intention is to keep the files open and not closed for as long as possible so that he can continue milking the clients. That is his one and only goal in life. The number of open files in his office. The question is this.  Do lawyers provide justice. The answer is absolutely no.  They don't provide any justice as that is not their duty. They merely argue in the court of law on behalf of their clients and it is left to the magistrates or the judges to decide on the issue of providing justice.  The judges or the magistrates would base their decision on the points submitted by the lawyers. 

 

How many lawyers in Malaysia truly submit correctly on behalf of their clients. The answer again is debatable. How many lawyers prepare 100% their client's defense? I personally know of lawyers who prepare their client's case two hours before the case hearing. THIS MEANS HE WOULD HAVE NEVER OPENED THE FILE TILL TWO HOURS BEFORE THE HEARING. I also know of lawyers who go to court under the influence of alcohol. Their breath stinks of alcohol as they step into the court chambers. They come out smiling as if they have done a stunning performance when all and sundry knows it was a sham performance with no proper defense submissions. The judgment pronounced by the judge is obviously against his client.

 

The point of contention here is that, to the lawyer the judgment means nothing. Nothing at all.  He has everything to gain and nothing to lose. He has already collected his money in full and plenty from his client. He has more to collect by losing the case as the client will be forced to pay more to continue with the appeals till he loses till the very end at the Federal court.

 

I hope I have explained well till now on the ridiculous state of litigants. To the litigant all he wants is just some justice from the court. Nevertheless, it is the lawyer that has sealed his fate altogether. The injustice started at the point of the lawyer taking conduct of the case in his law office. There after it is the commencement of injustice till the end of the case which may never see the light of the day.    

 

Can this sharking activities be put to an end. The answer is yes. The bar council must be prepared to undo the wrongs though it may eat into the individual lawyer's wallet in the council.

 

I suggest that lawyers should only collect a nominal fee based on the per capita income of the country. The rest of his earnings should only come from the winnings of the case. This means he can take a percentage of the winnings and a percentage of the costs granted by the courts. Right now most lawyers swallow the costs ordered by the courts. Now the court orders the costs not to be swallowed shamelessly by the representing lawyers but strictly for the litigant involved. The courts should make it mandatory that all costs are to be paid in the clients name and not in the name of the legal firm so as to arrest this gross abuse and illegality. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO TAKE SERIOUS NOTE. Right now the lawyer charges ridiculously exorbitant fees, he swallows all the costs due to the client, and he also retains a huge chunk of the awards given to the litigant. The awards could be in the form of damages ordered by the court or on the sum claimed. Most of the time the lawyer would insist on a percentage of the sum claimed. If the claim is for RM 50,000

 

he would insist for 20 to 30% of this claim if he wins. This is morally and legally wrong. Yet the lawyer would persist with these illegal actions. He will never put in writing any of the conditions at the time of taking the brief or the case at hand.  If you insist that he gives everything in writing then he will merely turn around and tell you to go and find another lawyer. How many lawyers would give you a WARRANT TO ACT ? I don't know of any that practices this but I know for sure this is what is expected of them as per the Legal Profession Act.

 

Now back to the issue of fees. I have been reliably informed that both in UK and USA lawyers take minimal fees from clients and the rest is collected from their performance in courts. In other words the harder they work the more money they earn and of course they are able to fight for justice. I have been reliably informed that in Malaysia many of the lawyers would use their influence in the newspapers to get their winning cases published in the newspapers. This means they can  charge more on their next clients.

 

The most absurd thing is that even many of our Member of Parliaments take up cases in courts where their fees are ridiculously high ranging from RM50,000 to RM100,000. When the litigant expresses his shock and disbelief guess what is his reply. The answer would be I AM A YB SO YOU HAVE TO PAY!! Personally I find these YB's pathetic and should never see the light of the Parliament again and I will personally canvass against them at the next elections. Try calling them with your genuine grievances and I bet my last dollar they will never be around as they claim they are too busy!!

 

Back to the issue of fees.

 

In lawyer contract discussions, "contingency" usually means that the lawyer's fee is contingent (dependent) on the outcome: The lawyer gets paid if the court awards and the client collects a recovery. If there is no recovery, the lawyer does not get paid .

 

The above is what is absolutely needed in Malaysia. In this way the poorest and the below average income earner as well as the average income earner can seek legal remedies in court.

 

I would also propose that PKR which is a justice based party design a legal assistance program for all Malaysians. This can be through legal insurance underwritings for bulk insurance cover for all their members. A list of lawyers be drawn from the length and breath of the country who could subscribe to their justice for all programs. In this way the mean, the sharks, the avaricious and the greedy lawyers can be weeded out of the Malaysian society.

 

My final note. Does fighting for justice involve any high costs in terms of technological equipments, cost of products in use, cost of materials etc. the answer is no. In fact there is zero cost involved as far as the lawyer client is concerned, apart from the cost of utility bills, rental of premises and of course the staff salaries which could be easily recovered from the simple and made easy initial fees collected. Please don't live your life by charging excessive and unconscionable fees from the already distressed clients whose only purpose of seeking your services is to secure some justice from courts.

A CONCERNED MALAYSIAN

 

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written by Oscar Winner, July 05, 2009 01:31:07
ho ho....dear Concerned Malaysian, you will be at the receiving end of all lawyers, the Bar Council included, who take offence of your generalization. Hope they don't sue you
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written by rajaphillips, July 05, 2009 02:18:15
Doctors,lawyers, engineers, accountants - their so-called service to humanity has taken a back seat long time ago. ALL are interested in one thing - MONEY and how to make more money out of any situation. Lawyers whack you with exorbitant fees AND quietly swallow the costs as well, doctors mercilessly suck out every bit of your personal insurance medical card and make it nonrenewable while they compete with their fellow doctors to buy the latest Mercedes/BMW, engineers collaborate with the contractors and approve shoddy work while accountants teach people how to cheat. This culture, this cheating, greedy, barbaric nature and practice became a way of life in Malaysia through Mahathir's ( a doctor) cronyism and corruption - he allowed it to flourish so that those few Umnoputeras will keep him in power. When everyone saw the Umnoputeras were getting rich overnight, the greedy and thievery culture of Mahathir Mohamed's govt gripped our society like a disease. Well, what do you expect people to do? I don't blame the people (professional or otherwise)-it is the culture introduced by the govt of the day - since 1981
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written by R020998, July 05, 2009 03:09:21
Has anyone tried to sue Bar Council?
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written by Richfyf, July 05, 2009 08:17:41
Dont need to go to court, even when you buy a house you have to sign two agreements one for loan and one for sales and purchase and you will end up paying 3 to 5 thousand ringgit. These agreements are so standard that you can even download it from the internet.

These agreements are suppose to protect your right, but what happen when the developer fail to deliver the house, After collecting the thousands in fees will the lawyer do anything on your behalf when you don't get your property???

I think lawyers fees in this country are over charged.
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written by mrbean, July 05, 2009 08:46:31
I agree with Richfyf, the documents are standard and they charge 3 to 5 thousand ringgit. I am sorry, but it is true that all lawyers in this country behave this way. they connive, get clients and charge the rates whilst their work is standard and no added value. when the developer cabut, the lawyers also cabut. Lawyers fees should be charged on a percentage of their winnings/claims, just like in the USA. The same thing with mutual funds in malaysia, before make money, they have already charge you with management fees. the law should be amended that they only get paid if they make money with the funds.
If you see a snake and a lawyer, guess who you are afraid of first?
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written by Ayoyo, July 05, 2009 09:41:54
GREAT ARTICLE !!! The problem with the lawyers and the BC is : are they willing to change the system ???? The author is only writing things which the lawyers oledi know lah......but BC don't give the impression they have the will to do anything about it. A bit like "ketam mengajar anaknya berjalan betul"?
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written by Old Man, July 05, 2009 09:51:58
Dear Concerned Malaysian, those so-called professionals out there may end up as Actors in Bollywood and Hollywood if we were to stop engaging their services!
Even Persatuan Akitek Malaysia has a standard Contract where a Contractor for a project needs to come up with Performance Bond of 5% of the Contract Sum. In case the Contractor could not perform as required, even if PAYMENTS from the Developer are not coming through, the Contractor may have to sell his arse to complete the Project otherwise the 5% will be forefeited! No payment? Engage a lawyer to sue the Developer after completion of the said Project!
You see all these so-called Profesionals seem to be sharing the same underwear and what not! Any other suggestion?
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written by tano, July 05, 2009 10:27:46
mr. bean in one of his comic scene, pretend to be lucifer and was doing some rollcalling and started segregate hell's occupants by saying, "thief...(stand over here)...murderers (stand on this side)...LAWYERS...(this side). Mind u if u go to court, they will always ask for postponement because they have another appointment at another court. They will take all case around but forgot their diary eventhough they will carry a big bag full of i dont know what. As though u cannot live without them!!!
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written by InEffective, July 05, 2009 10:54:05

If you want to fix the quality of lawyers, all clients should switch to pay-by-performance or pay-for-results scheme instead of pay-for-efforts.

Then watch these lawyers squeal and dance - and you will benefit.
(maybe we will see an end to the lawyers submissive and subservient behavior infront of our 3rd class buy-one-get-one-free judges)

(note : if you want to see a real life display of grovelling, just visit any of our malaysian courts - what you will observe will churn your stomach)
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written by InEffective, July 05, 2009 11:34:35
We should all be aware that lawyers themselves have given up hope in the judicial system. Can you blame them?

when you have judges like justice Augustine Paul and his judicial criminals fraternity controlling the justice system of malaysia, what hope of legitimate fair justice can you get ? When uncrupolous businessmen, goverment officers, and politicians can buy or influence the outcomes of judgements, don't expect the lawyers to deliver true justice?

We the rakyat are accountable - when we elect 3rd class politicians to govern us, you will get 3rd class judiciaries.

So Malaysians, you deserve what you get.3rd class lawyers, 3rd class judges, 3rd class governance, and 3rd class justice.
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written by macakmy, July 05, 2009 11:45:33
Lawyers or Lau Yeh?? A so-called "senior lawyer" in my neighbourhood refused to pay the security fees because it is his "legal rights" not to (a lousy RM 42.00 a month). He is now happily enjoying the security benefit at the expense of other residents. Ptuihh!!!!
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written by justiceseeker, July 05, 2009 12:13:29
Yes lawyers are a pathetic lot here in Malaysia. They have no shame, no decency and no dignity. They pretend that they are knowledgeable. Test them on any legal matter and their answer would be 'I will have to read up first'. Mind you their initial ignorance and their so called reading up will be followed up with a bill for payment. That is how ridiculous these breed of morons have turned out to be. Shame on them and shame on the the so called legal profession. Their only expertise is legalised thievery. Take this test. If there is a lawyer 30 feet away you can sense their stink. Follow that stink and you will finally be led to a lawyer. They are damned!!
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written by raven1958, July 05, 2009 15:19:12
Never trust a Malaysian lawyer.....

They feed well on the average Malaysian's gullibility and it's crooked legal system..
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written by justiceseeker, July 05, 2009 15:24:06
It will be a good idea if everyone can send this article to all lawyers you know. At least let them know how they stink among Malaysians
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written by hiro, July 05, 2009 18:50:02
I'm not surprised this is how a lot of people feel about lawyers in Malaysia. Unfortunately it is a poor reflection of what is happening on the ground.

Those simple documents that the writer claims should result in low fees - think again - it is not just the documents, it is the process of documentation, the inquiries, the applications, the various correspondence, the negotiations that adds to the time.

And how many rich lawyers are there in Malaysia? What the writer does is to paint the good and the bad together. The article does not do justice to those who toil for hours, staying late into the night to complete a transaction, earning reasonable fees, or most of the time just a salary.

It is most unfortunate that the writer encountered those unreasonable lawyers. There are certainly many out there. Without regard to reality and their personal aptitude, they dream of making a fortune from practice. How wrong they are. Legal profession is no longer the place to make a killing. Such lawyers are better off doing business.

Indeed the Bar Council should take heed of this. First, is the willingness of people to report - and there are people who report, and there are numerous lawyers already suspended if not disbarred from practising. The more proactive the public is, the better the profession needs to get - the more efficient the mechanism becomes to weed out the weak links.

The bigger problem actually started with the lack of meritocracy in public universities, resulting in two different standards of people entering the profession. Then it is compounded by the over-relaxation of rules pertaining to private colleges carrying law programs. Though there are established ones, there are others that are less than stellar in the students they produce.

Lawyers are suppose to be cream of the crop, and hence called professional. In most other jurisdictions, only the above average get to be lawyers. For that reason alone, people go to lawyers, and lawyers earn fees based on time cost, because they are supposed to be learned and experienced. The difficulty in Malaysia is since the entire system has been contaminated, the public is unable to separate the trees from the woods, painting all lawyers good or bad under the same light, as simply rotten apples. There are plenty of lawyers today who are no better than merely glorified secretaries or clerks, devoid of independent or smart thinking, merely following instructions from the experienced ones. Even those who claim they have many years in experience suffer from competency deficit.

The good lawyers who supervise these people naturally feel aggrieved because they drag down the profession, resulting in disparity of quality income compared with other jurisdictions. Some has already left the country seeking greener pastures elsewhere meritocracy reigns.

If the legal profession is to get back to its golden years, the Bar Council working hand in hand with the government must encourage mergers, automate the more clerical heavy transactions, and ensure that legal practice is really about giving good advice or undertaking difficult transactions. Leave the mundane to clerks and para-legals. Cut down on the number of law-graduate hires, instead of taking all of them in just because it's cheap to do so.
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written by freerpk, July 06, 2009 08:42:38
That is the reason why the legislators make the law so difficult for the common people to understand, so that you will always need the lawyers help. That is why a simple case like who actually is the Mentri Besar cannot be ascertain because the laws is made not straight forward and a YES means NO and a No means Yes depending on the judge who interprets it
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written by mei1, July 07, 2009 01:52:29
I'm no lawyer neither do I know much about the fee charges nor I’ve encountered any of the above (or yet to encounter?), what I believe is let's not judge a leopard with its spots. When I read the above article, I was like “was it really that bad?” given that the described situation was even worse than Ah Long stories. Undeniably, there must be some rotten apples in every industry that spoil the name, perhaps we can put it in this way, I think the writer, hiro & justiceseeker are right to certain extent subject to their own or others experiences. To me, it should be agree to disagree, let’s take all the negative issues & suggestions seriously. In other words, find ways to eliminate, improve and/or solve it. What's the use of finger-pointing without concrete actions taken? In politics, we used to see politicians passing buck or bickering, the ongoing Kg Buah Pala issue is a very good example.

Most of us (if not all) are some kind of “expert” now after witnessing the 308 tsunami. What's the lesson we learned from that? Simply put, it's about the will & importance of CHANGE. If we are keen to see change, we must partake it though it does not promise 100% of change. If everyone is just good at criticising & blaming but do nothing, then better forget about CHANGE, just accept the status quo & full-stop.

To digress, lawyers are one of the reasons that sparked me & influenced me to concern more about current affairs & the political goings-on in Bolehland, the most significance one was Walk for Justice. No, I didn’t join that march, in fact, I only realized in hindsight the importance & meaning of it. Also thanks to online news portals and bloggers for providing the platform for laypersons to get to know more about the dedicated lawyers that volunteer themselves to fight for human rights, promote democracy, etc.

In short, code of ethics & profession must be strictly adhered to. Should any layperson encounters the above mentioned issues, they should at least bring the issues to Bar Council. It’s similar to “scratch-and-win” fraudulent activity, should people who come across it just keep mum, refuse to reveal it or report it to the authority, it’s likely that it would have turned into an uncontrollable social disease.
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