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It seems Malaysia's Muslims are easily confused. And our equally 'confused' government are out to make thing right.

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MAIS doesn't have jurisdiction over non-Muslims so this is more like a "syok sendiri" ruling

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This is outrageous!
So, now Christian's aren't even allowed to sing?
ALLAH is a free-word, whoever wishes to use it, they're allowed to use it!
Why must everything be yours!?

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Allah Jesus?

That's a new one!

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MAIS does seem to be trying very hard to make the Khalid Ibrahim administration look bad.

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its so sad where so closed-minded people still exist.

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Stupid MAIS! Indon has more muslims than M'sia. They are never afraid that the song is a threat to Islam. They don't even consider the word Allah is exclusively for muslims. Where are your brains, UMNO muslims?? Pls say out loud Indon muslims are not true muslims. If you do that I will have my dick cut off

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Close minded or deliberate political sabotage?

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They should ban YouTube too! Everybody can play it there!...so how?

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Does this mean that we can only play the Negara Ku during Christmas?

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This song is already about three/four months old in indonesia. I have mentioned about this song and used it as a comparison between indonesia and Malaysia about the use of the word "Allah".
MAIS cannot introduce "fatwa" or islamic law as they are not God. I suggest MAIS repent and live a life like ordinary human beings.

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Grow up Malaysia

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Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Mais) chairman Datuk Setia Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa was appointed by the previous Barisan Nasional state government.

To replace him, the state government must need the agreement of His Royal Highness, the Sultan of Selangor.

I hope everyone is not confused over the role of the State government or PAS in this.

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Should BAN The Selangor Islamic Religious Council (MAIS). They shouldn't be allowed to have an ENGLISH name or any other language. MAIS should also change their acronym to MAIN since they've been 'toying' with peoples' minds since day one.

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By the way, this is a very old piece of news, first reported on the internet on March 14, 2009.

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No man of God will make threats and speak of death and destruction of others. Their long beards, robes, prayer beads and turbans only hide the Evil that dwells within them...More http://*********.********.com/...html#links

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Dear Mawi,

I don't know the part about despicable homosexual acts in the song.
However, all Christians believe Jesus is God.
If "Allah Jesus" is used, it is theologically right for the Christians.

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"Tak akan pernah dibiarkannya ku bergumul sendiri sebab Allah Yeses ku mengerti" .. confused?

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"written by mawi, June 22, 2009 14:52:03
Mikewang,

Every Muslim knows that christians treats Jesus as God" AND

written by mikewang, June 22, 2009 14:33:21
Dear Mawi,

However, all Christians believe Jesus is God.


Seems someone has been rewriting the Bible since I havent been watching. Jesus is the SON OF GOD .... in the fairytale called the Bible

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Good! Malaysian Muslim Authority go ahead banning Christians entity in Malaysia. Go ahead! Yes, Islam, you are doing right things to ban Christians for Armageddon!

Now, Christians countries...go and ban all Muslim in your country. Cut any diplomacy with Muslim countries. And, wait whether Allah can give them peace or more trouble.

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Brother Pete,
I feel it is the time that somebody or some religious body to have a meeting together and have a discussion about this problem......Indonesian is the biggest Muslim Country and yet they allowed the word Allah to be used widely by the Christians in their country.....And they even recognised the marriage between Muslim and Christian without the need to convert either one of the couple.....But as we known later on.....the problem will arise when they have their children, during dividing their family wealth, or during their sickness and death.....Since Malaysian is a Secular Country like Indonesian (although both claimed to be a Islamic Country) then it is no harm to find a solution for this matter once and for all, so that there will be no more disruption and misunderstanding between religion....Which means no more argument between our people again.....If I were allowed to suggest.....I would prefer the word Christian to be added to the word Allah in any Christian Publications, Cassettes, Tapes etc so the Muslim could differentiate which religions the items refers to.....You know, my father in laws still feel gross at me due to all this Muslim-Christian bickering which is originally caused by the Squandering Opportunist and Power Crazy Politicians in Malaysia....I feel I should sue these Bigots for making the people from inter marriage and interreligious background like me lives in a difficult times.....And yet they claim they are the championed for 1 Malaysian to every Malaysian in this country......What a Shithead

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"The Selangor Islamic Religious Council (MAIS) has banned an Indonesian song which contains the word "Allah" to "prevent Muslims from being confused".

This statement is so revealing.
Are the Muslims so very untaught by their religious leaders that they can be confused so easily! What a shame! What an indictment upon ALL the Islamic religious teachers.

The solution is not: to ban the song, and deprives the right and liberty of others. This just shows the arrogance and STEW-PIG-DITY of those running the MAIS.

The solution is: issue a FAT-WA that requires the Muslim religious teachers to do their job of educating and instructing the Muslims under their charge, on pain of being flogged for their negligence. If the Muslims are confused, the fault lies squarely upon the shoulders of their religious leaders who fail their duty.

Let these religious teachers learn something from an Apostle of Jesus Christ:

" 4:1 ¶ I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry."

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Dear Mawi,

Keep mumbling about "Jesus son of God" and soon or later, you will just syok sendiri compare to Christian or Bible students here. The more you mumbling about Jesus the son of God the more you "syok sendiri"! Christians accept those people who are underestimating or insulting Jesus as Son of God. The Christians do not have problem at all. You need to read the Taurat, Zabur, and Gospel in order to understand Christian minds setting. If you do not read them then you will syok sendiri.

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Well so much for Halal Christmas turkey that we have in Malaysia, Might even be qualified for Guiness Book of Record.

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densemy; This being the case and if you are interested to find out why, then you should study both BOOKS, and find out the truth.

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"The Selangor Islamic Religious Council (MAIS) has banned an Indonesian song which contains the word "Allah" to "prevent Muslims from being confused".

What if the Religious Council of another religious think and act the same way?

Would there be a lot of banning to do?

I bet only the Islamic Religious Council enjoys the right and liberty to MURDER and RAPE the freedom of others.

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Hey, all these JAKIM, MAKIM and what have you wants to deal. Pre Pay them the fine, and you can sing all you want. They have a package deal too, pay RM10,000 and you can sing all you want for a year. Another scam to earn more illicit income, if you ask me.

Now, you cannot even sing the State's anthem as most contain 'Allah'.

Shalom

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MAIPP Chairman, why do muslims, or should that be only some muslims are sensitive? Why can't muslims and non-muslims discuss and form our own conclusions without being sensitive. The word is merely an excuse. Most Malaysians are aware of it.

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I think this is another Amno ploy. They are luring out Pas to comment on this and then when Pas says they are for the ban, then Wham!

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I disagree with MAIS that Muslims should be made to look so ignorant or stupid not knowing how to different things ?

And I believe that they are capable enough not to be spoon fed either ! !

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Hi All,

This is how racial problems come and this is what they want to be happen here.
Be more matured la my dear bro and sis. To be honest, for me religious is just the way of life.
All the religious want the good thing only to be happen.
Now, why are we arguing?

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will MAIS also filter the Internet?

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Ok. If that's how you wanna play it.

Then I'm gonna ask the members of the Hindu faith to sue Proton for using the word "Iswara".

"Iswara" means God/Deity in Hindu.

Amacam MAIS? Boleh ka?

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What is wrong with this peoples We believe and have faith in, if muslim don't believe it then is their problem not we(Christians)problem.

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I think they should ban Christmas, Wesak, Deepavali in Malaysia, since the muslims here will be confused.

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If Indo's did not BAN this song.... Does this mean, Malaysia Muslim are less open mind then Indo's??

Such a shame.... How can u tell others you are leading the Muslim and yet, doing a Close door concept?

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written by mikewang, June 22, 2009 14:17:29
Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Mais) chairman Datuk Setia Mohamad adzib Mohd Isa was appointed by the previous Barisan Nasional state government.

To replace him, the state government must need the agreement of His Royal Highness, the Sultan of Selangor.
Beside been appointed by the federal gomen, who pays them? The mosque? Who pays the mosque? Religious institutions should only be funded by their congregation. NOT from TAX payers money.

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There are some brainless people who argue without.. without using the brain Allah gave them. I met an ulama who said Allah is capable of anything. He can make trees appear, rivers, and make human beings out even stones and as believed from the earth.

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majority in sabah n sarawak are christian. so..the next general election iwonder if they r still vote for BN

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I had been to Church, but I am not a Christian. I have no problem singing or listening to christian hymns. I enjoy the serene voices as much as a buddhist ones. My mind is at peace with the surroundings and the universe when I indulge myself into it. There is no boundary of religion in this context. These are the hymns nature provide us and created by man, not God.

Again, we have man creating religion and try dividing one from another. I wonder if God will in future only make one race his representative.

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I really pity such people who come up with such rulings. What you have so effectively and efficiently done is harm yourself. You are saying that it only takes something very minor to confuse you. Oh you poor thing. Let us all make a pledge to stop confusing these people.

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This is a case of people who are so stupid admitting it themselves that they are.

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Come on lah you people. Don't you know that it takes only so little to confuse some people. They are born like that. Excuse them. Stop confusing them.

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Dont get mad with others. Mad with yourself for not making use of our votes wisely.

So in the next general election, make sure you vote for those who are moderate, not corrupted, pasionnate, honest and non racist politicians to be the MP and State Assemblymen. After that we expect them reform everything and get rid of corruption or/and racism. It should start with reform MAIS and sack people like Datuk Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa

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MAIS banned the song to "prevent Muslims from being confused". What a huge insult to all Muslims.

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To Mawi and anyone who support the ban, show me a Muslim who gets confused between Quranic Allah and Biblical Jesus and I will show you an ignorant in name only Muslim.

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now we are really progressing. Another Malaysia Boleh! As an anak Selangor, I now have to wonder whether I can still use the colloquial 'Alamak' --- does it mean the mother of God? Maybe not, but with our extraordinary interpreters of religion like MAIS, hey, you never know. Malaysia Boleh!

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Let us not react to such a futile act with any actions out of our anger for that is what these people expect of us (to do/ to feel).

Let us respond to it by doing the right thing in quietness, in hard work, in making our people aware of the act of our current gov.

When the next general election come, we shall see these people flee from all Malaysians or foreigners who wants to see harmony, peace, just and freedom in this land.

regards,
Kenny Lin

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Are these Muslim administrators/priests amongst the most intellectual of the Muslims? If not, how come they are allowed to make rules/laws on behalf of God?

To these Muslims, only Islam is the one and true religion. All others are false. But it is written that God sent hundreds of prophets throughout the ages to all corners of the Earth to guide the people. And if one prophet were to found one religion, then it would mean that there would be hundreds of religions. Moses and Abraham are termed as prophets, even in the Koran, but where is their religion and holy scriptures by them? And even in the Koran, it is stated that "to your religion, to me mine". But if we are to hear the spin from the mosques, there is only one religion and only one prophet.

And I have asked this question much earlier, why have God stopped sending prophets to guide us? Especially now when there are so many questions and controversies everywhere, when there are so many conflicts involving religion? I have always thought now is the best time to send down another prophet, what with satellite TV that can be beamed across the whole globe, an TV channel can be specially dedicated to this prophet, and with the international telephones and internet, people can phone in or write in(e-mails) live to HIM. He is able to communicate and spread HIS word all across the globe and to every corner of the world, right from his TV studio. Answers, anybody?

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Confused people led by confused champions ... nak jadi jaguh Islam tapi memalukan Islam pulak ...

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Allah! There is no god but he:-

To refute the Muhammadan (Arab religionist) assertion that Allah is GOD, the reader should be made aware of the following. Allah is NOT GOD; Allah is only the NAME of a god. Allah was the name of the supreme pagan god of the Ka'ba centuries before the Quran. In Quran, GOD is called ILAH, not Allah. There are numerous verses in different Suras that prove this point.

2:163; 3:18, 216; 4:87; 6:39, 102, 206; 7:65, 73, 85, 158, 159; 9:31, 129; 11: 14, 50, 61, 84; 13: 27, 30; 16:2; 20: 8, 14, 98; 23:3, 32; 24:25; 27:26; 28:70, 88; 35:3; 38:65; 40: 3, 62, 65; 44:8; 47:19; 64:13; 73:9.

2:163 - And your god [ilahakum] is one god [ilahan wahid] ; there is no god [ilah] but He [hooa] Most Gracious Most Merciful [al Rahman al Rahim].

3:18 - There is no god [Ilah] but He: that is the witness of Allah [Allah] His angels and those endued with knowledge standing firm on justice. There is no god [ilah] but He the Exalted in Power the Wise.

27:26 "Allah [Allah]! there is no god [Ilah] but He! Lord of the Throne Supreme!"

First Pillar of the Arab Religion:"There is no god [ilah] worthy of worship except ALLAH [Allah] and Muhammad is his messenger". "La Ilah [god] Illa' [except] Allah, wa [and] Muhammad Rasool' [messenger of] Allah"

This declaration of faith is called the Shahada, a simple formula which all the faithful of the Arab Religion pronounces. This is the first stage of the corruption by the Arabs.

*** Contrary to all the deliberate falsifications by Muhammadan scholars, as can be seen from the Arabic of the Shahada, and other numerous Quranic verses, Allah is NOT GOD but the NAME of a god, just like Jove, Zeus, Venus, etc are names of pagan gods and goddesses in the Greek and Roman pantheon, so was the name Allah who was the supreme deity of the pagan Ka'ba pantheon. Muhammad's pagan father, after all, was called Abd Allah [Slave of Allah], long before Muhammad's 'revelations' ***

In Quran, what is mentioned are Adjectives "Muhammadun", "Muhammadin" and "Ahmad" that the disbelieving Arabs, in their translation changed to become 'Muhammad" a proper Noun. In actual fact, Muhammadun - the Praised One, remains unknown till this day. This is another corruption by the disbelieving Arabs to sell their desert religion to the whole world as what coca cola has done. Imagine that there are more Arab wannabes outside Saudi than in Saudi. A very successful branding exercise, if you like coke that is.

So MAIS, please do not bullshit us Muslims, as you do not have any relevance in ISLAM as per Quran. Quran says that you MAIS are disbelievers and bullshitters. No other way of putting it.

Shalom

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Selangor did not ban Christian songs and Allah word. It is MAIS under the UMNO DOG, doing the very things that put shame to Islam and muslim brethrens. without MAIS and UMNO DOG, then there won't be so much of rubbish about banning and sowing discord amongst people from different races and religions.

MCA, GERAKAN, SUPP, SABAH Parties and Sarawak Parties, SHAME on you those are there agreeing with UMNO and MAIS to bully the minorities of Christian faith.

The very leaders from BN component parties are Christians (or self proclaimed) and working together with UMNO to spite your own LORD Jesus. Don't you remember what the bible says when you deny and don't defend your own God? (this is to Christian leaders in BN)

Sabah and Sarawak people, wake up and see how your leaders are embarassing the very Jesus that you believe. If your leaders are zealous and know what is the right thing and wrong things to do, they won't allow UMNO to persecute your faith/belief.

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Jesus Christ!!!!! Now I also cannot sing the Selangor state anthem because one phrase of it sings - 'Allah lanjutkan usia tuanku'. So how? should non muslim sing the state anthem or not? MAIS

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GREAT! Lets BAN our Selangor Anthem too as is contains ALLAH!!!

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Good people help others heaven bound.
A greater sin is stumbling block unto others.

These people are doing Allah a disservice; it is like a blind teaching others to avoid using the switch (to turn on the lights at night).

They are living in the dark; they are lost. I feel so sorry for them.

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In other words --

It is like a blind banning others who are not blind to use the switch...

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Aiya...everyone's up in arms yet again because of Allah. What do you say if I tell you that ALELUYAH means Oh Allah....... Alelu is Allah and Yah is only an exclamation.

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Abosolutely narrow minded! How to achive 1Malaysia?
Najib better change it to 1Muslim!

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islam are more superior than a jewish n christian..any other religious are never accepted!

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The true colors of malay moslem UMNO leaders..

1 MALAYSIA equals.... ONE MALAY, ONE ISLAM

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