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There are many things the Indians should fight for other than for more ‘lucrative’ posts and positions. And the fight should not just focus on getting more Indians into committees. This does not work and has been proven so for more than 50 years.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

The Indians are upset. And they have every right to be upset. After all, have they not been neglected and marginalised for more than 50 years? I will be very surprised if they are not upset when even I am upset.

But these Indians appear to be upset over the wrong reasons. They are upset because Indians are not given enough posts and positions. They want more representatives here and more representatives there, in every council, committee and what-have-you. And they are upset not because not enough Indians are being given these posts and positions. They are upset because THEY are not being given these posts and positions. It makes you wonder whether they are fighting for their fellow Indians or for themselves.

Why fight for more temples? Are there not enough temples as it is now? Fight for more government land and government funds for expansion purposes for existing temples. After all, are not mosques being built on government land and with government money, which means it is our land and our money -- Malays, Chinese, Indians and ‘others’ included?

In other words, don’t talk about quantity, talk about quality.

Why fight for more Indian schools? Some Indian schools are so dilapidated and don’t even have enough students to qualify as a school. We don’t need more schools. We need to improve the existing schools. Again, quality over quantity!

Fight for the abolishment of race-based quotas in public schools, colleges and universities plus for Tamil to be part of the school curriculum as a second or third language so that Indian students can still learn Tamil if they want to.

The taxpayers are paying for the cost of public institutions of learning -- meaning you and me are paying for it. So why should only one race be allowed places in these institutions such as ITM? The Malays are not paying for these institutions. All Malaysians, non-Malays included and in particular, are paying for it. It is an open secret that the ‘other races’ are paying most of the taxes but they are denied places in public institutions of learning which depends on taxpayers to fund them.

Are posts and positions really that important? Indians have been given posts and positions since over 50 years of Merdeka. But have the lot of the Indians improved? Do these Indians holding all sorts of posts and positions really strive to improve the lot of their fellow Indians?

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad grumbled that he gave the so-called representatives of the Indian community all sorts of help. They got shares, contracts, land and whatnot. But did it filter down to the grassroots Indians or did those at the top sapu everything for themselves?

Today, the Indians might argue that MIC no longer represents the Indian community and that Mahathir should not have given all this wealth to the MIC leaders because they kept it all for themselves and never passed anything down to the people below them. Maybe, today, you say that. But, until very recently, 90% of the Indian voters voted for Barisan Nasional. The impression the Indians gave was that they regard MIC as their legitimate representative.

There are many things the Indians should fight for other than for more ‘lucrative’ posts and positions. And the fight should not just focus on getting more Indians into committees. This does not work and has been proven so for more than 50 years.

The Indians are being left behind. There are as many, or probably more, poor Indians as there are Malays. But Indians do not get special preferences when buying a home, the most important and fundamental requirement before anything else. A roof over the head is first and foremost. But a rich Malay house-buyer gets special preference because he is Malay while a poor Indian sleeps in a rented slum-house because he is Indian. Is this fair?

I support the Indian cause. But I do not support what they are asking for and the way they are going about doing it. Yes, call for the end of the New Economic Policy in spite of Najib’s warning to HINDRAF to ‘not to go to far’. It should no longer be about Malays first. It should be about poor and needy Malaysians first.

And you can demand this without asking for more places in committees. It is not about posts and positions. It is about getting other non-Indian Malaysians like the Malays and Chinese to join you and to support you in the fight to improve the lot of not only the Indians but the lot of all poor and deserving Malaysians regardless of ethnicity.







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PKR man: Pakatan not doing enough for Indians
Malaysiakini

A grassroots PKR leader today lashed out at Pakatan Rakyat and its administration in Selangor for continuing to marginalise the Indian community in the state. “The sidelining of the Indian community by the Pakatan in Selangor is not much different from what Barisan Nasional has done,” said Petaling Jaya Selatan division’s deputy chief A Thiruvenggadam today.

He alleged that all promises made by Pakatan leaders, including PKR president Anwar Ibrahim and Selangor Menteri Besar Khalid Ibrahim, before the general election in March 2008 to uplift the Indian community remained unfulfilled.

“In Selangor, the PKR-led state government has so far failed to keep up with its promise to do something for the community. No job offers have given to the Indian community. No contracts have also been allocated for the Indian businessmen in the state,” said Thiruvenggadam, who is a PKR-appointee as a councillor to the PJ city council.

“I have been asking for the past one year or so for the state government under Khalid to make it a state policy to provide jobs and business opportunities for the Indian community but to date nothing has moved,” he said in a statement. He claimed that all Pakatan leaders were repeatedly lying to the Indian community by promising them better things as compared to the neglect committed by Barisan Nasional.

“They are only cheating the community to garner support. Nothing is being done. They have done nothing for the community by giving some money for the Tamil schools in the state. They must also help the community to be economically strong,” he added.

He said that the Pakatan leadership’s argument that it should not be looking after one particular race only does not hold water. “Why do you want to neglect an already marginalised community? There is nothing wrong in helping this community to find its feet. Otherwise, it will just remain neglected,” he said.

He added that it was ironic that many Pakatan leaders in power today were human rights defenders before this and now they were not seeing the sorry plight suffered by the Indian community in the state. He also challenged the state government to come up with statistics on what it has done to uplift the Indian community in the state. Thiruvenggadam said he would be revealing more on the state government’s failure in helping the Indian community at a press conference next Monday.

Nalla: I am not surprised by this

The Indian community, for long BN voters, shifted sides to Pakatan in the last general election after complaining that they have been neglected for years. Pakatan leaders had said that they would be different from BN and would help the community gain an economic status. However many observers, including insiders like Thiruvenggadam, have complained that the plight of the community remained the same.

Commenting on this, BN-allied Malaysian Indian United Party (MIUP) leader KS Nallakaruppan said he agreed with the contention that the Pakatan state governments have done nothing for the community. Pakatan won control of five states in the general election.

“The complaints are valid. I have travelled throughout the country, including to the five states under Pakatan control and the feedback I get is that they are still in the same poor, neglected state. Apart from appointing some Indians to some high-profile posts and local councils, Pakatan had failed to deliver its promise for the Indian community,” he told Malaysiakini.

He was referring to the appointment of DAP’s P Ramasamy as the deputy chief minister 2 in Penang and V Sivakumar as the Perak assembly speaker.

“Temples are still being demolished in the Pakatan states. Tamils schools are still in the same condition. Have they reduced poverty?” he asked. “I know full well about Anwar and other PKR leaders. They have never cared about the Indian community,” he added.

He said that while BN could have been slow in reacting to the needs of the Indian community in the past, it has now learnt its lessons with the federal government implementing some policies to overturn the situation. Nallakaruppan left PKR in 2007 after a fall-out with Anwar and formed his party.

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written by RumahPanjai, May 26, 2009 03:33:04
Stereo typing Indian thinking.....me, mine, my position...leading to me, mine, my money....screw the community. With this mentality, how can the community ever benefit? Of course there are many Indians who cares for the malaysian community regardless of race.
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written by Chokma, May 26, 2009 04:10:47
I read somewhare that the Chinese Malaysians contributed 90% of tax collection. I wonder why the Chinese are called unappreciative and ungrateful Malaysians by UMNOPutras? Shouldn't the Chinese be the ones who boss them? No, the Chinese just want to be treated as Malayisans, so as the Indians. Not second or third class. If the Indians are fighting for the course of Indian Rights like UMNOPutras, they are at best will be just like the UMNOPutras if they succeed. Will that brings to a better Malsysia? I guess not.
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written by ArsenalFC, May 26, 2009 04:17:21
That's politics. Even if everything is given, it will never be enough. They will keep asking for more and more, even when there is no more to be given.

Having said that, discriminatory policy which favour one race will have adverse effects. Policies should be devised and implemented based on need. Help the poor people by teaching them to fish, rather giving them the fishes.

Arsenal FC forever!
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written by ampraxius, May 26, 2009 04:20:48
ASWB RPK,

I am for the abolishment of the NEP and while i support the idea of equality and merit some times i think these people who ask for special attentions are harming their own cause. I disagree with the allocation of funds, posts or even anything based on race. Why can't we have allocation based on merits? If you have the qualifications and you are the best then it is yours. Demanding and throwing tantrums are not helping them at all. We are not exactly a rich country with ringgits to burn.

Especially given the Federal Government's strangle hold of funds to PR states, we can't and shouldn't award contracts based on race. PR states should be more transparent and ensure that any contracts are given to those who are qualified, able and trustworthy. Not because of genetics.
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written by educationist, May 26, 2009 06:25:50
Looking at the hard facts and figures, the actual statistics for scenarios , let the UMNOputras try to spin their webs of deceit around them!!
The UMNOputras have been manipulating the reins of power for too long!
They have forgotten the boundaries of what is essntially the rakyat's money with what they perceive to be rightfully theirs to dispense and pocket at their whims and fancies!!
There is no 1Malaysia in reality - it's stillborn!!
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written by Raizzen, May 26, 2009 06:49:59
I cant help but think that all those demands such as more Indian schools and representatives are engineered by Hindraf. I mean for intellects (in Hindraf) to be fighting for such nearsighted goals are quite unthinkable. Its like they purposely mislead the Indians to further fractionate Malaysians.

Hindraf sounds less and less attractive by the day.
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written by Shimshon, May 26, 2009 06:56:36

Indians - aren't good in teamwork/working as a team. It's not in their psyche. ( Indians are very much individualistic.)

Which is good - in one perspective - as he could go do his own thing - and come up way above the rest. For example, a few months ago before the economic (collapse), few Indian billionaires were in the Top 10 world's richest. No China Man there. But India the nation - still backward/very much poorer, but China as a nation - much developed/advanced.

(Actually, India is a rather rich country - but very terrible in wealth distribution; and much of their wealth is overseas, corrupt money, like is Swiss banks, etc)


Throughout Malaysian (modern) history, you'd find some/many a lone Indian doing some great things, achieving great heights, but surrounded by other races - very much like Tony Fernandez -- OR!!!! even like Mahathir s/o Mohamed Iskandar Kutty!!

This "individualistic" side of the Indians, also explains, why the Hindus (whether here or in India) built, keep building, too many temples and shrines.
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written by Frankfurtguy, May 26, 2009 07:04:31
Each race has its own characteristics
but
only one human kind!
One human kind is to be treated as SAME
A royal, A doctor, A beggar would be the same when they all die and face the GOD
So......why not treat each other as the same, brothers and sisters
NO MORE INDIAN, MALAY OR CHINESE........BUT ONE MALAYSIAN
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written by Krepot, May 26, 2009 07:19:46
"Susah tengok org. senang" - the Indian mentality.

It really troubles an Indian to see a fellow Indian doing well - which eventually leads to one trying to sabotage the other till he fails.

In contrast, the Chinese wishes well to a fellow Chinese when he does well.

This illness has stagnated the economic growth of Indians in Malaysia.
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written by advocatusdiaboli, May 26, 2009 07:30:42
Interesting RPK Sir. Some of us try to fight for quality instead of quantity but most of the time the people we try to reach out to miss the point and are contended with short term gains. Some are just there for power and just do measly things to impress the community. Temples are powerful community centres, if used in the correct way it can uplift the community positively and educate them too. But here the so called temple president and communities are more interested in personal survivals. Even if there is an Indian who wants to do something there is always another vulture waiting in the shadows to thwart him. Rumors are the flavor of the day too and rational thinking always takes a back seat. Back stabbing is the order of the day. With this kind of mentality how to improve? I have seen many Indian Tamans go down because the people believe rumors instead of finding out things themselves. When their thinking itself is shallow, how to improve? First every Indian must be willing to change himself before there is any positive change in the community. Work as a community. And stop rumor mongering within the community and be proud of who you are. CHANGE!
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written by cocomomo, May 26, 2009 07:38:12
People like PKR Petaling Jaya Selatan division’s deputy chief A Thiruvenggadam are just like MIC leaders. Only interests in leadership posts for THEMSELVES. Just like the UMNO leaders use "in the interests of Malays", some of these narrow minded selfish Indians in Pakatan are also only interested "in the interests of Indians" for their individual pockets and glory!!
Indians should be happy to have genuine Malaysian leaders who really care for the interests and welfare of ALL Malaysians, irrespective of racial/ethnic origin, rather than Indian leaders who talk about interests but are racist in orientation and talk and only care for themselves.
Indians need to think Malaysian and work with others as Malaysians for the overall benefit of all Malaysians.
So do we need "leaders" like Petaling Jaya Selatan division’s deputy chief A Thiruvenggadam and Samy Vellu?
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written by Milo, May 26, 2009 08:13:02
What the indian leaders meant by the indians not given enough is if the BN can give us some sweet, we will vote BN again for the next 50 years! With the way Hindraf is demanding for sweets , even my cat can see what's coming soon - big trouble!
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written by GoMalaysian.********.Com, May 26, 2009 08:22:40
Wear this for a new Malaysia



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written by elims Chuang, May 26, 2009 08:26:43
The concept just like 1-stop-centre. At last it turn up to become Another-stop-centre.

This is just a different name but carrying same intention called Another-Malaysia-umNO cronies Game.
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written by batsman, May 26, 2009 08:41:40
UMNO has 4 policies for the 4 major races in Malaysia.

For the Indians, it is still the old, well used Divide and Rule

For the Chinese, it is the new (at least for Malaysia) Carrot and Stick

For the Malays, it is Dirty Tricks and Backstabbing

For the Orang Asli, Sabah and Sarawak natives, it is just plain neglect.

Welcome to 1 Malaysia!
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written by maisur, May 26, 2009 08:56:12
dear chokma 04:10:47

you said "I read somewhare that the Chinese Malaysians contributed 90% of tax collection".

errr... i don't know where you got the info from. and i noticed RPK kept saying many many times that chinese contribute 90% of tax to the goverment. i have no idea where RPK got this "open secret" from either

as far as i am concerned, in 2007, PETRONAS contributed RM52.3 billion to the government in royalty, dividends, corporate income tax, petroleum products income tax and export duty. this accounted for approximately 32% of of the government's total RM142 billion revenue.

please don't forget other contributors such as TENAGA, TELEKOM, MAYBANK ETC ETC ETC. These GLCs will easily contribute more than 50% of total tax to the government

therefore, i really would love to know where on earth do you get the "open secret" that chinese contributes 90% of tax to the government.

nevertheless, even if the community contributes 1% of tax.... they should be treated equally regardless of race or religion. NEP should be abolished in line with islamic principles.
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written by cheekymate, May 26, 2009 09:01:20
What the heck? Still talking about Indians, Chinese, Malays, Sabahans, Sarawakians?! I curse the forefathers of our country for making racial discrimination institutionalised. I curse them for their short sightedness that has made a beautiful country richly blessed in culture and traditions metaphor into an ugly race separated country. I am a true blooded son of MY Motherland, born, bred and raised in MY country Malaysia. No one nor nobody can take me away from MY birth right. Do you hear that, Najis?
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written by mvivek, May 26, 2009 09:09:48
"Mattravargalaiyum vala vidamattargal, thannaiyum thaney alithuviduvargal".....

If translated, this means: You will not let live others; and you also will not let yourself survive.

Most Indian leaders are self-centered; wanting everything for themselves and no amount is enough. They will tell the whole world that they are fighting for their race, when, in actual fact, they think only of themselves and of those close to them.

In the end, they fail themselves and bring down everybody else along including the deserving.
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written by gorshan, May 26, 2009 09:10:52
quality over quantity? Indians?

susah tu.just go see at any Indian banana leaf restaurant and you will see them piling quantity over quality of rice. too much rice in the tummy means less blood flow to the brain,hence the lethargic condition Indians are in.

honestly, Indian are no different than the Chinese or Malays or the Bumiputeras when it comes to crab mentality or back stabbing or bad mouthing, semua serupa.

a roof over the head is a basic human necessity.there should be no racial,religious discrimination over housing. to rise up socially Indians must now demand govt land for vote.

'No Land No Vote' should be the new battle cry smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by cheekymate, May 26, 2009 09:19:58
I think it is time we stop finger pointing. Afterall, remembering the way the pie is unevenly distributed, who can blame those who are getting the raw end of the deal to fight tooth and nail to keep what little they have and hope for a little more?
Please stop all in-fighting. Our enemy is not within us. It is time to truly unite against our common foe, the UMNOPUTRAS.
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written by sydput, May 26, 2009 09:25:26
Way to go RPK (Quality over quantity). That is probably why he have numerous, underutilised govenrment hospitals staffed by some very qualified and overworked doctors. But I also witness some doctors who does not seems to know how to sort out an emergency cases involving patients who are suffering from heart ailment (Kulim district hospital and HUKM cheras) and wondered if the NEP has actually allowed these underperforming guys to obtain their certs.

On the Bumi property discount issue, The person who buys a bumi lot can only sell to another bumi and not anyone else. Which means, he will not get the actual market value for his home if he decided to sell. Hence most Bumis buy non-bumi lots unless they plan to stay in that property until the end of days.

Cheers! My vote goes to the celtic PM.
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written by sydput, May 26, 2009 09:32:33
And may I add, the race with the least concern for the 1Malaysia concept are the malays. They will give any excuse just to maintain power and deny others to participate in decision making.
So the blame is not on the indians alone. Nobody listens to their plight, even if it was samy Vellu saying it.
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written by Farmer, May 26, 2009 09:34:25
Who is Nalla? To talk agreed with PKR Man and condemn Anwar Ibrahim.
Nalla pls check your background and past before you comments on something.

PKR just didnt do for past 1 year for indian community compare to BN 50 years.

Dont trust BN and Nalla.

OneMalaysia is a crap and biggest joke ever in Malaysian history. I only agree when all malaysian citizen is bumiputra status or scrap the bumiputra status. We are dump enough to accept OneMalaysia.
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written by Littlebird, May 26, 2009 09:56:19
Truth hurts. It is the British who allowed them a shrine (wrongly called a temple)for each division of the estates. It is also not uncommon the relationship of different division to be unfriendly as for the british unity of Indian labour means problem for them.

It seems they can't out live their past.

They refuse to accept that they are third class citizen due to many factors. Crime, poverty, alcoholism, wife abuse, child abuse etc etc.

During my school days, my chinese friends used to ask me why Indians are at both extreme?

If only HINDRAF start to attend to small things that can uplift the image Indians then they should start asking for better things. Clean up the street from Indian drunkard. Walk to Indian restaurant teach them cleanliness. Teach Indian parents priorities of education.

Teach them good eating habit. Teach them how to interact in the society.

All these small steps will lead HINDRAF to a better position to demand that we are the children of the country that deserve equal rights.

BUT truth hurts.
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written by myke, May 26, 2009 10:07:48
Please help copy and spread this message.
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TELL YOUR RELATIVES AND FRIENDS NOT TO VOTE FOR BN NEXT GE13.

EXTINCT BN AND VOTE PR.

NO TO BN.

VOTE PR.

PLEASE START WORKING NOW..!!!!!

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Please start by simple one person a day if possible and work towards convincing
friends/relatives to spread this message. Explain to them BN's evil deeds, corruption, abuse of
power etc and get them to spread this message.

TQ
For a better future.
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written by hkh, May 26, 2009 10:15:17
Thiruvenggadam, who is a PKR-appointee as a councillor to the PJ city council.

May I ask, what bright ideas have this councillor propose to the PJ city council to uplift the Indian community? Having being in the council and you have not done anything, you may as well sack yourself! Or was it that you are only interested in getting "jobs offer" and "business contracts" a'la handicapped negotiated, no tender style?
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written by Bigjoe99, May 26, 2009 10:22:04
Najib's whole plan with Indian is to keep them fractured while engaging all of them. But the problem is within his own party they are all fractured too, making Hindraf still the biggest voice for the Indians. They key to Hindraf galvanising grassroot support will be how much concession they can get from everyone including PR. If it play its cards wrong where it stop moving either BN or PR i.e., getting concession from either of them, it will lose support. So Hindraf need to be very careful where things are heading between BN and PR and eventually chose a side it think will win ultimately...
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written by rakyatmalaysia, May 26, 2009 10:32:37
why are you guys fighting to prove who pay tax more ? is that so important now than finding way to kick BN out from their respective seats ?
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written by arazak, May 26, 2009 10:42:50
“They got shares, contracts, land and whatnot. But did it filter down to the grassroots Indians or did those at the top sapu everything for themselves?”
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Dear Pete,

This dieses of “sapu everything for themselves” are not inherent in MIC leaders only. They have long inflicted the UMNO, MCA and Gerakan leaders (or any other BN’s component party) too! That is why this country has also poor Malays, Chinese and other races. The nation’s wealth does not filter to the grassroot. The main philosophy of the BN regime leaders is to enrich themselves and their cronies first before others (and even so, if there are leftovers).

This has been and will always be happening. . .!
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written by wongnoball, May 26, 2009 10:51:55
What Hindraf should fight for is JUSTICE, instead of just Hindu alone. The leaders still don't realize that they are actually giving free bullets to the UMNO extremists to shoot and vilify them.
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written by chrisyong, May 26, 2009 10:55:00
Still finding hard to understand Indians. Perhaps one day when we understand Samy Vellu we will understand all the Indians. Why think like a katak di bawah tempurong. If one become rich and famous he will get carried away like Samy Vellu......sigh.
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written by Henry, May 26, 2009 10:55:03
Pardon me for saying this, today umno is controlled by "indian mamaks" Many of their leaders are actually descendants of indian muslims. Maybe that is the reason a number of indians are coverting to muslim. Their future generation will be provided for.
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written by Adrian, May 26, 2009 11:14:08
Guys,
Very concern about PR leaders especially those elected ones hantam their own party especially in the open and not thru the proper channel. I am worried as these people use the "jumping frog" to black mail the party.

If these leaders can only think for their own race, than they are not leaders of Malaysian. They can not even think that to develop a country(infra development and human development) it probably needs generations.

Here, we have half past 6 leaders asking for short term gain to boost his popularity - if you are asking for contracts for your own people, what difference are you compare to the people you condemned?? You should look at the policies and systems. The policies and system have to be fair and also not neglecting the weaker races (groups).

Please look at Singapore. The Malays in Singapore do not enjoy quota system in University. If you are good and enter University, it will be free, Goverment bear most of it if not all. Hence, you see that those Malay graduates in Singapore are the top in their race and equally good if not better than other races in Singapore.

Quality over quantity.






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written by Conan Chung, May 26, 2009 11:20:17
You could say most Indians are myopic... they couldn't see the forest for the trees (i think that is how the saying goes). And all these is related to the education and culture of their community.

Educated and smart Indians are bright enough to understand how to make themselves rich; even at the expense of other Indians. Why should they make other people richer if it means losing the social status that comes with being rich and powerful? Most are not that Noble.

For those who are considered idealist, they are not realistic enough or as "crafty" as compared to smart people who do not hesitate using "dirty" methods. This means they could never get to positions of power even when their ideals are noble.(Tunku Razaleigh and Dear Pete is a good example). For those who are not educated, they usually cannot escape from the spiral of poverty. They continue doing what their parents and other "role-models" do best... boozing, drugging and maybe some other common vices or lead an unsatisfactory life. It is not in their culture to bring "fame and fortune" for the family name.

So i guess its really the "culture and norm" that dictates a community. Mahathir understands the Malaysian community very well; therefore he was able to be in control with such popular backing for 20 years. What is different from back then is there was less globalization and Americanization. Now that people had a taste of liberty, they are hungry for more. For that, UMNO will fall because it is an aristocratic club, not a people's joint.
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written by IbnAbdHalim, May 26, 2009 11:20:38
Salam Pete,

Nice air down under? (sorry, off topic)

In reality are we Malaysians or Indians? Why fight for one particular race? Shouldn't we be fighting for the poor and neglected be they Malays, Chinese, Indians, Ibans, Dayaks, Kadazans, Muruts, Bidayuhs, and so on? It seems that the Indians are missing the target. UMNO and MIC have been misusing their positions in government by neglecting the poor, Malays and Indians included.

When are we going to go out into the open and fight for justice for all? If we remain in the same area as the government does that shows we are no better. Harping on racial issues to gain support is not going to take us anywhere.

I think it's already enough of the shouting and howling of being marginalize and the result is back to a square one. If the Indians think Pakatan can bring changes overnight compared to what BN had done in umpteen years, well be my guest. One has to face reality.
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written by *********, May 26, 2009 11:21:21
The Dayaks in Sarawak have been trying in vain many times to have a political party registered. Najib it appears, has employed a divide and rule strategy on Hindraf. This strategy after all works perfectly well from peninsular Malaysia across to Sabah and Sarawak. Coincidentally, Hindraf is the organisation BN abhors most, while Makkal Sakthi represents a voice the government is most unhappy with. The almost hindrance-free establishment of this party seems to denote the "blessings" of certain people. Najib and BN/Umno know very well that they can't rely on MIC or PPP to bring in the Indian support for BN. The best way is for BN/Umno to ditch MIC and PPP which are seen as Pariah's by the Indian community and throw it's support behind the Malaysian Makkal Sakthi Party...More http://*********.********.com/...html#links
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written by SUV, May 26, 2009 11:41:44
I setuju with RPK.Indian r ruled by thier emotions and thier leaders..ayoyo..sebahagian bear langsung tak boleh pakai!!
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written by ananthprabagar, May 26, 2009 12:10:23
all races in malaysia having this same problem. even malays neglected by UMNO. but the percentage compare to the population, indian has higher graph... but come on, you it is every malaysian citizen (including malaysian indian) need to uplift their living style and level. i think this country has plenty of job oportunity, whether you wanted to work or not. i have seen so many young man not bothering to get a job. so many workshop need mechanics, but this fellow (indian boys) with their idiot dirty jeans, motorcyle racing, spending time with drinking beers and taht's it... LIFE GONE. my dear brother's please, please, please, all you need to do is simple. go find a JOB and WORK. WORK lah my friend...please...
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written by teo siew chin, May 26, 2009 12:30:52
much as i would sympathise with the victims of a corrupt unjust system,
many a time, it also boils down to personal attitudes.
dont go on a blaming spree.
focus on self-improvement.
love your neighbour as yourself.
dont depend on 'leaders or their packs' or the government.
focus on quality instead of quantity.
and of course dont get so emo lah!
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written by Jit Dharma, May 26, 2009 12:41:13
Brother RPK, One word sums up their half-wit, lame-brained and
transparently greedy attitudes. FEUDAL. Every sucker crying out for
positions and what not, is thinking about his bloody stomach. Nothing is
enough for these greedy SOB's. These bastardos don't give a rat's ass about
the plight of the under-privileged and will step on them so they can get
higher up. This feudal attitude is the bane of all Asians yet the Indian
addiction to position is where a revolutionary change must start. No one
is better than the other. Yes, some have more and some less, none is
better. Get That You Fat Heads!!!! Peria Manishan ( Big Man, Head Honcho etc)
My Big Fat Foot!!!! Bloody Idiots, the other communities spit on you,
and rightly they should, you are scum traitors.( Sorry Bro.RPK I'm
also an emotional person).
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written by Smiles21, May 26, 2009 12:46:56
Dear Brother RPK,

"And you can demand this without asking for more places in committees. It is not about posts and positions. It is about getting other non-Indian Malaysians like the Malays and Chinese to join you and to support you in the fight to improve the lot of not only the Indians but the lot of all poor and deserving Malaysians regardless of ethnicity."

Sebenarnya kemiskinan ada di mana-mana. DiIndia saya sempat melihat ada di antara mereka hidup lebih merana dan melarat daripada kaum India yang tinggal di Malaysia.

Di negara ini, belum saya terlihat orang India yang tidur di tepi jalan raya. Tetapi di benua India, mudah saya lihat. Bahkan, di India saya terasa maruah seekor lembu lebih berharga daripada maruah seorang manusia.

Namun di Malaysia, saya agak rasa kurang senang hati apabila saya melihat pemimpin Melayu yang berada dengan senang menyalahgunakan kuasa untuk kepentingan diri yang melampau.

Keadilan harus diberikan kepada yang berhak tanpa berdasarkan bangsa ataupun agama.

Salam sejahtera untuk semua rakyat Malaysia.
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written by malaysianohope, May 26, 2009 12:50:07
There is no such thing as 'Free Lunch' in life. You just have to depend on yourself to get where you want. If the Government of the day does not help you, you work twice as hard to get what you want & at the same time you get to vote against the party which short change you. That's Democracy in your face! As for those Indians who made it in life it's up to their conscience to lend a free hand to their kind. If not that's also their right.
1Malaysia!
1Umno!
1Chicken!
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written by CheGUvera, May 26, 2009 13:15:27
Semi value & co. were given all the min. post & for a long time.Wat did they do for the "real indian". If you dun have one(chinese,indians, malays etc..)who feels for "real changes" then all the worlds min. post given wun benefit the "real rakyat" but pockets of that very person.Pls. for crying out loud,we dun live in a world of just one race,one religion etc...we must fights for the right ideas to benefit the rakyat.
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written by vineeth menon, May 26, 2009 13:49:04
Thanks RPK for saying it loud, My fellow citizens just don't get it.. They like sensations & shows , not the results.They will never change.. I lost hope for my fellow Malaysians of Indian origin . The good people are doing their part in the NGO's. Try to get them involved, they can't be politicians , but they deliver better to the community and are accountable. I would say, screw the race based parties including hindraf.
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written by tlnrs, May 26, 2009 13:50:48
Thiruvenggadam is in a situation mentioned below.
His neighbor house was in fire, and what he did was just saying:
Well, I think it must the kids play around with fire...
or maybe old wiring short circuit...bla bal bla...
He would never offer himself to help his neighbor to move their belonging..I suppose.

Then, this time, his own house was in fire year, he is blaming his neighbor not helping him to move his belonging...

LOL, apparently, he commented on something which is NOT really concern him, see...giving comments is so easy, but DOING it? haha...he failed.

and let's talk about motive, apparently, when someone made a such a remark, they must be after something, or they already had something....$$$$ tons of it given...

Ok, Indian, yea I have to agree that there are many of them which are poor, so what?
What should you do? vote BN will make you rich? when it was proven not the case, then now you hope by vote PR and become rich?

Oh come on people, get real, you have to WORK...WORK REALLY hard for that....you wont get rich by simply vote for political party and hope they spoon feed you.

Or you want to get someone to kick your butt then you move an inch?
If so, you are destined to poor forever. Let me assure you, you vote not for become rich but for the right people to lead the country, when overall economy improve then our overall living standard will improved.

But, will this eventually make you rich? The answer id not necessarily! You will have to work hard...work smart...in any sequence you like.

Be it Malay, Chinese, or Indian...the equation is the same, NO DIFFERENT.
But of course, those in the cronies get more la....
And this is something we dont want, get it?
And this is want happen in our country nowadays, and we want to change that by vote for PR because they are our hope!!

Will they or are there any possibility they will become like BN? YES, there Are!
If that happen, we will kick them out every 5 year or so, get it?

Aisey....why so difficult to understand meh?

Oh by the way, they are not mant Gandhi around but 'Zombie'..do you get me?

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

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written by JIVJAGO, May 26, 2009 14:41:29
WE have another 400,000 years left for the Kali-yuga to end i.e before Brahma goes to sleep,one out of 100days of his celestial calculation.

That is when partial annihilation of the universe will occur.

The four pillars of dharma,artha,kama and moksha all have but diminished to one fourth.

The dire state that all of us are facing either by religion,economic development,sense gratification and liberation have already been predestined.

As a humanity in whole all of us will definitely face the wrath of KALI.

KALI's choosen places are prevalent and growing by numbers i.e slaughter houses, brothels, casinos and pubs.

There are few decent gentlemen or saints among us, gods fear to even step on earth.

No proper protection given to children,women,spiritual man,old folks and animals.
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written by joeawk, May 26, 2009 14:46:09
If the indians are among the poorest, what nonsense is it that they should be asking for post this and post that. They should be asking for educational and employment opportunities. It would be difficult to ask for scholarship which I do not normally agree but what about study ;loans. Housing discounts is another and skill tranining for dropouts.

I believe scholarships should be given to students for courses not available locally and where few would want to take. Not scholarships for regular courses such as medicine, law, accountancy, etc.
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written by Ashleigh, May 26, 2009 15:25:51
You expect what the BN couldn't do for the past 52 years to happen in 1 year?? These people are just selfish politicians who want instant noodle wealth for themselves!

Uplifting the livelihood of the poor needs fundamental change in policy and proper implementation and it takes time to build up economic strength... I do not expect Pakatan-ruled states to now start another "ketuanan India" by handing out contracts, projects and funds based on skin coloe (again).... What they could and have been doing is to strengthen the state government fundamental institutions... with all the sabotage by BN, I consider the Selangor PR Government to be doing a good job. Only when all the foundations are laid properly can the impact be seen on the streets.

If Pakatan-ruled states can uplift the livelihood of the marginalised (Indians, Malays, Chinese etc) and turn Selangor into a zero poverty state in 10 years time, I would say "BRAVO!".
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written by tlnrs, May 26, 2009 15:39:44
'Be it Malay, Chinese, or Indian...the equation is the same, NO DIFFERENT'

Additional note:

I should have say that, generally, the equation for all of us to get a better life is the same, Work hard would not guaranteed better life but if you sit down there and hope something good to happen to you....sorry bro....wait long long...

Also, I think we have mix up many thing that should not be mixed in the first place, Come to think about it, how does more temple or more school really help you? I also wonder...
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written by Pakyeh, May 26, 2009 15:43:19
Dey Tambi!! Itu Samy noValue juga kasi bunoh itu India worang.Dr M banyak suka sama Samy.Itu no.1. punya Mentri Jalan Raya/Toll nalarekek jugak! Bilion2 jugak ada masuk dia punya poket.You minta sama Samy lah.
Cina worang ..itu Mulphaa bisness Company banyak duit jugak.
Itu India punya business Company,Maica Holding banyak duit jugak. Tapi Samy sudah hantam, nanti habuk pun tarak. Aiyoyo kadawalek. Kasian. You punya kepala juga salah. Kenapa bodoh simpan itu Samy sebagai kapala???
Itu Samy sama Lumbu bukan Tuhan lah !!! Adipek sama dia lah.Lain worang ganti lah.
Poodah wotak belakang simpan kah ???
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written by wongpk, May 26, 2009 16:35:09
7% buying a house? I thought it is 30%... Last I saw the boucher I got from some estate agent. This will not end so soon I suppose... Totally agree that poor and needy first!
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written by Siapabohong, May 26, 2009 17:45:40
Kah kah kah kah .....
Alo Pakyeh! Lu worang India mali ka, worang Malaisia? Manyak lucu maca lu munya celita. Wa kitawa musat jugak....
Wa halap kita munya sudara worang India moleh ingat ini RPK sulah celita, mau kasi mintak MUTU munya balang mukan mintak SAMINOVALUE jali kapala munya balang. Itu miskin munya worang India musti mau kasi naik jali kuat jugak macam itu worang Mulayu dan apek Cina, mukan mau manyak lapat jali menteli, manyak jali menteli apa guna, lia munya poket punuh jugak, worang India manyak miskin jugak!
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written by carribeanking7, May 26, 2009 18:23:47
Dear Pete,

I commend you for trying to articulate this issue in so many permutations, hoping to get it into the thick skulls of some individuals.
I can understand some gullible members of the public not getting it, but not a YB who was elected on a multiracial PKR ticket, talks about Indian Issues when 50% of the constituents are Malay, UMNO sure loves these types.
I have held my tongue against Pakatan YB's thinking they are still finding their feet, but I just about had enough, case in point http://www.facebook.com/note.p...6&comments

Vijay Kumar Murugavell
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written by Aria, May 26, 2009 19:14:31
You have read the Indian gene/characteristics very well, but not all Indians have these bad traits. It is unfortunate that Indians are stereotype with people like Samy Vellu. Most Indians are good, but unfortunately good people don’t have the selfish, self-centred nature to get to the top leadership positions. Therefore stupid greedy immoral crooks are filling the top positions.
How can we change this? The answer is to choose leaders by merit - qualification, historical evidence on the person’s contribution to society and his/her morals. Only the best people must be chosen for governing jobs, for the sake of this country. At the moment there are no standards, all sorts of clowns are getting in because of power and money.
To get a job in a company there are so many stringent checks on qualification and experience, but to get a leadership position in the government all you need is to be in the circle of money, contacts in the right places or have a small army of tugs that support you.
When people go and vote for an election they have to choose which of the lesser of the evils do I choose from, and sometimes they get it wrong. There must be a committee of independent people outside PKR (call it a recruitment agency if you like) that chooses the best people in the country for the top jobs in the country. If a right person is chosen for a governing post, then a lot more people will turn up to vote. Otherwise people will just say ‘what is the difference if I vote or not, because both are equally bad’ and may not bother to vote.
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written by Wahyu, May 26, 2009 19:18:40
RAJA PETRA K.

Berjaga-jaga!! Polis tengah guna Interpol tracking you down
meraka sudah tahu anda kat brisbane!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by lynn, May 26, 2009 21:34:42
Thiru has a valid point but the way he articulated it could be "improved upon". Nevertheless the gist of it is, the Indians really need immediate attention and immediate assistance. One major area is education - Indians must help other fellow Indians to give emphasis on this aspect. Not just learn Tamil & a sprinkling of Malay words. Not enough. Another area is, help shld be given to help them get out of poverty.

It is a FACT the Indians are the poorest & most neglected among the 3 major races; the PR govt shld give this community special assistance, like helping to get them on their feet, give them training on life skills. Give them cash to start small businesses ... the Indians are not demanding for bumiputra status or 7% discounts or 1 acre of land. I think Indians just need some assistance to get a start from somewhere. (BTW, am Chinese)

Frankly the Indians shld select a leader who is not necessarily another Indian - pick a Chinese or a Punjabi - find a person who is deeply sincere to help your community. He or she doesn't have to be the same skin color. I mean look at semi tol value, for over 3 decades, as Their Indian Leader, did he do much? Did he do enough? I don't think so.

Find yourselves another Gobind Deo Singh - this man is a gem in a million like his dad.
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written by lynn, May 26, 2009 21:45:46
This was what I was told by a friend yesterday: bodohland's workforce is around 12 million, of which only 3 million are earning incomes which are taxable. But in this category, 90% of the 3 millions have Chinese-sounding names.

And yet we have that fcuk-face called ahmad said calling us pendatangs.
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written by Junglefever, May 26, 2009 22:16:15
I am a Malaysian...and I totally agree with RPK. I think there should be only a two race classification in Malaysia. A "Have race" and a " have not" race. Special assistance should be given to the have not race to succeed. I am not asking for any special privileges extra representation etc etc. If our leaders are fair minded having the interest of the nation at heart and function on a meritocracy level, then I have no complaints. It is when incapable people are placed in positions of responsibility to fulfill a certain quota that things fall apart. Unhappiness starts and this breeds dissatisfaction and animosity. There people from both sides of the political divide that I respect and appreciate because of their capabilities.We need people who can get the job done period. THE COLOUR DOES NOT MATTER. BUT all must have an equal chance of attaining the job and COLOUR SHOULD NOT MATTER.
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written by Apache3, May 27, 2009 02:59:44
Dei A Thiruvenggadam what are you barking about? I thought PKR was for all Malaysians. If this is true then go ask TS Khalid to help all Malaysians and NOT just the Indians. Are you planning to become another prostitute to jump on to the BN 25m bandwagon?
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written by raven1958, May 27, 2009 08:43:39
History has proven that.....it was the Indians who first taught the Malays the art of not doing anything but wanting to have everything for free....

They do have much in common as a result of bonding cultivated since the time of Hindu mythological Gods....you can watch the wayang all the time when one our Zoltans get married, crowned or kicks the bucket.....mau tanah, mau kereta besar, mau istana besar, mau bini 4, mau gundek 8, mau crony deal tak payah kerja, mau contract orang lain, mau bini orang lain...etc etc.....

So the Indians should not fret....for they are the same as their Malay brothers except perhaps for the skin colour.....but then if previous PMs and current illegal MBs are taken into account....they are all pretty much the same
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written by mentora, May 27, 2009 10:10:28
Really a biased posting by people for this article. Looks to me whenever RPK write about a race and their shortcomings, immediately everyone jump in the band wagon without thinking clearly what are they writing.

RumahPanjai wrote: Stereo typing Indian thinking.....me, mine, my position...leading to me, mine, my money....screw the community

Are you telling me that UMNO, MCA and other BN cronies does not think that way and only Indian politicians do? When any kind of quota are to be discussed, who is the first one to bring up issues about 'don't touch what is rightfully ours'? Any Chinese business man/women, will do business with another of their of their race rather than do business with other ethnic group. Only reason they deal with the Malay is purely for self reasons.

If you READ RPK's writtings, you would have noticed that all races in Malaysia have the same mentality. Comment's here prove that what RPK has been talking about is right. RPK once mentioned that instead of seeing ourselves as Malaysians, we still see ourselves as Indians, Malay, Chinese and etc..

If you ask me, I don't know who or which 'ethnic group' started it but it one thing for sure is that we all (Malaysians) are following it.
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written by verifunny, May 28, 2009 03:51:40
Indians, please wake up.

Stop complaining about being marginalized. Look at what shit you have elected to represent the Indian community. Look at what shit you have voted to be your MP for your constituency. Blame yourself for what you are now. Vote smartly for now onwards.

First thing to do is to stop listening to shit from all those Indian parties. They promise you heaven and earth but you get hot air in you. Let them get their acts clean up before you consider them.

Second, don't be lazy and start to read more about the political situation. If you know nuts, how do you judge?

Third, give candidates of other races a heads up. Look at the Chinese, they are giving up MCA or Gerakan and go for PAS. For now onwards, you shall vote for "ONE Malaysia" candidate and stop using phases like Indian, Chinese, Malay. Start to use "Malaysian". Without throwing your old mindset away, it is difficult for you to understand how One Malaysia is going to work and exercise your judgment accurately.

Forth, when a salesman sells you something, ask for more details. If you have more details, you will know whether if this salesman is sincere. Throw questions back at the salesman or double check the proposal against what the salesman had told you to see if the salesman is actually an actor/actress. This is the least you can do to judge accurately. Visiting the rally is important. Forget about things you hear from newspaper or news telecast.

I wish you all the best.
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written by flexus, May 28, 2009 19:31:00
RPK was absolutely right.
Indians need UNITY and thats something I stand by.
If i had the chance to see Uthaya,I will tell him we dont need
damn new schools temples land, what we need is a remedy,a change of mentality
for the indian youths between the age of 18-25 who at this stage cant get proper college entrance or jobs.I know that we should rectify this at an earlier stage but this is the reality timezone where they actually come out to the real world to explore and
do not have any sense of direction or guidance and to start from scratch.
Save them!

Indians need a leader has to make sure Education is compulsory Generating higher equity be Priority
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written by Tom n Jerry, May 29, 2009 09:59:49
In Malaysia ther can never be equality or justice or conscience whenever humans or non-Muslims are concerned;I was petrified to be force fed beef satay with fried rice on my way back t o Kota Kinabalu on the 27 May;reason given being there was no more chicken satay left;I wonder how Muslims would feel if they were to be force fed pork satay when there is no chicken satay left;it all boils down to conscience or morality or simply put humanity or humanitarian;why cant the caterers be more sensitive to the needs of all ethnic in Malaysia not only to Muslims;it has to be more liberal in thier forecast or budget of food in flight towards a more liberal & open society;not always Muslims first;other(indigenous) are the real bumiputras of this nation and hence they deserve more compassion;not forcing anything down their throats! smilies/angry.gif
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