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Thursday, 31 January 2008 07:51

Last minute conversion while a patient is dying is not an uncommon phenomenon.

{mosgoogle right} Ask anyone who has worked in a hospital before, they will tell you this. Sometimes when a person is very ill, there will be certain religious workers (not from the dying man’s faith) coming to visit him , comforting him and perhaps even praying for him . Sometimes the dying person is asked to pray together with them. Often this is done when the dying man’s relatives are not around.

SO when the person dies, a dispute can sometimes occur. Those workers will come forward and claim that the dead man has embraced their faith at the last minute, and very often it is their words against the relatives words.

When a person is very ill, he might not be in the right frame of mind to decide whether he should stick to the faith that he has believed all his life, or changed to the faith that those preachers are preaching. Very often he would allow these people to pray for him out of courtesy , out of apprehension of death or,  simply,  he is so ill he does not know what is really going on around him.

 It is really inconceivable to think that a person will abandon something that he has believed all his life all of a sudden and embraced the new religion. It is also inconceivable that he can understand and believe in something within such a short time.

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written by Chaptokam, January 31, 2008 09:31:56
Last minute conversion while a patient is dying is not an uncommon phenomenon. It happens all the time especially those so call Christians . By doing so they have caused or bring unwanted problems to the deceased families and they think they are doing others a great service .When in that situation I think the bereaved family should just put their foot down and ask them to get lost . Also I wonder what Jabatan Agama Islam would do if the dead person who is supposed to be a Muslim consumed pork and died and pig oil is rubbed over the body ????
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written by Bill Gates, January 31, 2008 10:07:39
These (the body snatcher and dying patience waiting vulture) are the poeple who will be sent to hell disobeying God's order of giving people their last human rights. Only satan will ask these vultures to influence the weak when they are dying.

What they should do is to pray for their recovery and not predict their death.
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written by EYFF, January 31, 2008 10:27:49
The 101 economics of terminal “conversion” !! Or the Ghouls that rob the dead and living and disgraced Islam!

The Public Trustee under the British were in charge of quite a few estates, where the principals died without leaving any will, by arrangement or in disputes.

On independence, the Pejabat Ugama Islam (PUI) took over its function and to sort out all the unsettled or unclaimed estates of Muslims! However the PUI officers were usually rather obstructive and reluctant in the settling of the estate to the heirs! Among which was the very lucrative estate of the late Kaptain Kerling in Penang with its numerous shophouses and land located at the middle of the city: which to date had not been sorted out in spite of the many claims submitted by the administrator of the estate.

Why?? Well generally the officers in charge of the estates would be collecting rents (above and under table) and other benefits. If the estates remain unclaimed (through frustration, duress etc of the heirs) they would become wakaf and with the USI (officers) having the right to administrate and dispose of them. The sales proceeding would be retained for charity and for the welfare of Muslim’s windows and orphans. Generally you have the real and official rentals and sales prices: where the officers would pocket the substantial differences.

However many of these officers are getting rather greedy and daring. They rig up the body snatching scam to “NEP” the estate of the dead of other races and religions!

So the first step would be to “convert” the dead or dying and “process” them into Islam which would then justify/legalize the snatching of the bodies and planting them in a Muslim cemetery “to establish ownerships”. After that, the heirs that are not Muslims will not be able to claim their (dead converted “muslims”) estates.

BECAUSE IN THE COUNTRY'S RELIGIOUS LAWS FOR MUSLIMS, A NON-MUSLIM CANNOT CLAIM INHERITANCE FROM A MUSLIM.. ( But a muslim can inherit from a non-muslim!!)

In time the un-claimable estates would be wakaf-ed and the administrative officers would then get (under table from the markdowns) shares of the spoils in their’s disposal for charity!

Hell is empty! All the devils are here!

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written by temenggong, January 31, 2008 13:25:26
The converter and the converted are both idiots who know nothing of god, who is closer to you than your jugular vein, who was already within you all the time. There was no need go anywhere.

Death bed conversions are the rapacious wolves taking advantage of the situation. Devious deception! There is an unkind word for this. Cannibalism and necrophilia does fit the physical counterpart description though. These are the practices of the dark forces!
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