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Friday, 20 February 2009 10:46

(Emedia News) - Perak Speaker V. Sivakumar's decision to suspend the menteri besar and the six executive council members is an act of treason against Sultan of Perak Sultan Azlan Shah, said state Barisan Nasional deputy chief Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

"He has defied the sultan's orders... the sultan has the absolute power to appoint and sack the menteri besar, apart from appointing the new executive councillors.

"So if the exco members and the new MB are not allowed into the state assembly, Sivakumar has commited derhaka against the sultan for disobeying his command and his authority."

Zahid warned other politicians not to court trouble with the palace.

"We in Perak, especially the Malays, feel challenged with the action taken by those who don't want to accept the fact that the sultan has the power to appoint a new MB."

Speaking after the launching of the national-level Dakwah month, Zahid, who is also the Minister in the Prime Minister's Department in charge of Islamic affairs, said Sivakumar's move reeked of political motives.

"We know that by him suspending the MB and the six exco members, the new state government would lose seven votes in the state assembly, and victory would be Pakatan Rakyat's."

He said the legal team from BN and Umno would be advising Menteri Besar Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir on the next step to take.

"We are having our discussions now, including with the state BN chief and Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak," he said.

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written by Rundukon, February 20, 2009 10:54:03
Encik Zahid, the Sultans are Constitutional Monarchs lah...mana ada Absolute monarchs lagi pada zaman ini.



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written by my oumrie, February 20, 2009 10:56:40
Oi YB don't you dare talk of derhaka to sultan when your former leader took that power away from all sultans in 1993, remember? You people are so heavily one sided that if you're not careful, you'll topple very soon.
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written by OVERLORD, February 20, 2009 10:58:47
Ahmad Zahid,who are you to speak on behalf of the ruler? That in my mind is an act of treason by itself..... Sivakumar was just carrying out his duties....By the way, which "malay" are you referring to?......UMNOputras or the rest of the population?
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written by murali, February 20, 2009 10:59:22
Here goes another moron minister using "malay" sentiment for cheap publicity and his own gain.. Are you sure u are talking on behalf of all Malays in Perak? What makes you so sure?
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written by Rundukon, February 20, 2009 11:00:39
Zahid, please define Malays? Are the likes of Javanese Toyo, Mahathir, Yemeni Albar who are all either 1st or 2nd generation migrants Malays?

Perhaps we need to be reminded that the 1st Sultan in Malaya was a Hindu Prince Parameswara. Then later came the lanuns from Sulewasi, Palembang and what note.
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written by adan, February 20, 2009 11:10:25
Call for new state election and there will be no doubt that the results will conclusively prove.
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written by IbnAbdHalim, February 20, 2009 11:10:47
Zahid, if you can't read LAW, go and fly kites!
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written by dumbfounded, February 20, 2009 11:13:06
he has forgotten that the engineer of the coup and Zambry have bowed out of their victory dinner due to safety reasons. Were they not threatened with tear gas on swearing-in day? What would they say if Siva was Malay? Weren't the PAS protestors Malay? The proof is in the pudding. Call for fresh elections and Merdeka independent polls will tell you if the Malays are with you or against you. Until then, you are speaking for your rotten self and your pack of dirty rodents. You have no right to speak for the Malays. You may go ahead and speak for the Sultan perhaps if you have his permission. But as far as we're concern, no fresh elections, no right to speak for the people be they Malays, Chinese, Indians and etc.
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written by ONGJJJ, February 20, 2009 11:15:29
Please laaa don't think we can't differentiate between constitutional monarchy and absolute monarchy (aka dictator). Podah. You UMNO scumbags have committed more & worse derhaka (treasons)...appointment of Perlis & Trengganu's MB, Mahathir's 1983 removal of royal immunity, MM Taib fiasco with Selangor's Sultan...etc the list goes on...so Podah again...Zahid Hamidi.
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written by Wudan, February 20, 2009 11:17:40
Woit Zahid, of course the Sultan has the power to appoint a MB but not when Nizar is still a MB. The 'surat watikah' issued to Nizar is still with him. Has it been revoked? The statement issued by the palace official does not amount to removal. Do you know how an MB can be removed in Perak?

Let me remind you what Tun said in 1993 before you and the rest in UMNO Baru, sikit-sikit shout 'Derhaka'.

18. Walaupun wakil rakyat bebas bercakap dalam Dewan Rakyat dan Dewan-Dewan Undangan Negeri mengenai apa juga tajuk, tetapi mereka tidak boleh menyentuh diri Raja-Raja kerana sebarang kritikan atau teguran terhadap Raja boleh ditakrif sebagai hasutan dan mereka boleh didakwa di bawah Akta Hasutan. Peruntukan ini adalah hasil pindaan yang dibuat pada tahun 1971. Sebelum ini, teguran terhadap Raja boleh dibuat di dalam dewan. Di Britain dan di negara-negara lain, ahli-ahli Parlimen bebas menegur atau mengkritik Raja.Adalah jelas bahawa menegur dan mengkritik Raja tidak menghapus kedaulatan Raja.

19. Sementara halangan ke atas teguran ini dikatakan akan memelihara kemuliaan Raja, tetapi apabila Raja tidak ditegur, maka ia tidak akan sedar akan kesalahan yang telah dilakukannya. Dengan itu, mungkin lebih banyak kesalahan akan dilakukan dan kesalahan ini mungkin akan menjadi lebih serius. Ini bukan sahaja akan mencemarkan kemuliaan Raja, bahkan juga boleh menimbulkan kebencian rakyat terhadap Raja. Tidaklah benar jika dikatakan larangan terhadap mengkritik Raja akan memelihara kemuliaan Raja. Sebenarnya kemuliaan Raja akan tercemar kerana larangan ini.

20. Dengan kemungkinan Raja menolak nasihat serta bebas daripada teguran dan sebarang tindakan keadilan, maka Raja sebenarnya bukan Raja Berperlembagaan lagi tetapi menjadi Raja mutlak. Sekali lagi Demokrasi Berparlimen tidak wujud kerana tidak ada tindakan undang-undang yang boleh diambil terhadap Raja yang tidak menerima nasihat Kerajaan rakyat dan melakukan kesalahan

(p.s. Tengku Razaleigh blog have posted a nice speech of him opposing the amendment proposed by Tun)
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written by Concerned Malaysian, February 20, 2009 11:18:59
Zahid,
your body language shows that u were lying during your press conference to TV3( shifthig ur body and figetting). If you bloke have the balls just call for fresh election dont cover urselves behind Sultan as ur defence. If it is erred just refer to the court or the people...kenapa " kecut"!
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written by Midvalley, February 20, 2009 11:23:20
Zahid and the unmo gang make use of the Sultan for their selfish gain.
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written by zonefinder, February 20, 2009 11:28:06
Zahid,
don't main main with us Malaysians, especially the Perakians. You and your Umno cronies have no credibility in the eyes of the common Rakyat. We can see thru your games and crooked ways to cling on to power. You could have gang bang our way using the Sultan this time round but the will of the Rakyat will not be denied. Think about it..even the USSR has fallen. You think you are invincible??
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written by Concerned_Citizen, February 20, 2009 11:38:57
Another good dog of AmNo. What say you when the EC overwrite Siva power when he ordered the EC to start a by election for the three posts? What say you? Silly goon of Najix!

Anything happens, you say PR derhaka kepada Sultan and start playing the Ketuanan Melayu game. Botox, that's an old rule and it does not work now. Nevertheless they say old dog can never learn new tricks.
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written by chronos, February 20, 2009 11:41:33
Zahid is an opportunist and a SHIT STIRRER. He's got no integrity, one of the many UMNO leaders of authority with no responsiblity. Licked his way back from almost obscurity, his tongue is shorter by 1 1/2 inch, and the shit stain can still be seen, hold your breath when he speaks, cos the breath odour of shit will overwhelm you.
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written by Wahyu, February 20, 2009 11:44:21
Zahid ini sengaja nak hubungkaitkan perbuatan Speaker sivakumar kononnya dia derhaka pada Sultan Perak. Dia cuba nak mengheret pihak sultan ke dalam arena politik.
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written by scottiebabie, February 20, 2009 11:44:35
why is it everytime these ppl dont like what happening or what they hear, they dish out little items like traitor, treason, sedition, threat to national security?

granted that they're suffering from VDF (Vocab Deficiency Syndrome) besides the standard IDF(Intelligence Deficiency Syndrome)diseases, couldnt they come with anything slightly new for a change?

or perhaps its the it-takes-thief-to-see-a-thief syndrome
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written by Man In Black, February 20, 2009 11:46:27
Zahid..'NATANG' is not treason is it...Bloddy dogg!!! UMNO doggs have got nothing better to do....DAMN!!!!!!!!!!1
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written by educationist, February 20, 2009 11:47:39
It is to a higher ideal we hold our allegiance not to someone who has betrayed the people's trust and responsibilities to the rakyat.
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written by Goostee, February 20, 2009 12:08:50
Zahid,

"Treason" itu kah dakwah yang ingin diketengahkan oleh kamu sebagai orang yang bertanggung-jawab dengan hal-ehwal Islam di Negara ini ? Dimana letaknya prinsip musyawarah yang dipandang tinggi dalam Islam dalam menangani perkara ini ? Janganlah memutar-belitkan perkara yang jelas. Harus diakui bahawa Sultan hanya berhak melantik MB tapi tiada hak melucutkan kedudukannya. Kedudukan ini jelas dalam Perlembagaan untuk menentukan Sultan tidak sewenang-wenangnya menukar MBnya sesuka hati. Umat Islam dipandu untuk menggunakan kewarasan masing-masing, tapi sayang sekali pemimpin seperti awak hanya berminat memesongkan cara mereka berfikir untuk kepentingan awak sendiri !!!
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written by CheGUvera, February 20, 2009 12:15:05
yea sultan has right to appoint & sack the Mb, But the MB is not sacked, just suspended. Do you know the diff. between sacked & suspended,meathead!!(dead from the neck above)
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written by Mik, February 20, 2009 12:15:11
Oi. dun drag sultan into this la.
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written by savemalaysia, February 20, 2009 12:19:27
Don't twist facts and show off your stupidity, blinking Zahid. Taking the Perak State Govt through the back door is treason and not suspending Zambry and the six Excos. They are all illegally constituted and by sheer arrogance, refused to give any reasons for their power grab. By not reverting the State Govt back to PR is treason because BN has now lost its majority. And for low IQ scums like Zahid, don't you understand that the speaker is the head of the State Legislature and that his disciplinary actions on errant Excos and the MB can't be challenged.
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written by NSTPravda, February 20, 2009 12:20:37
strange, the last time I check I am sure we are still a constitutional monarchy (at least norminally), unless the constitution has been changed unilaterally by UMNO to suit its purpose.

Our Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi have yet learnt to read.... trampling on the existing Constitution is more treasonous, don't you think so Datuk Seri Dr Shid?
Or Dr. Shid's brain is so stuff with self importance that there is no room for a modicum of common sense?
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written by Apek, February 20, 2009 12:21:24
Dear Dr. Ahmad Zahid Hamidi,

You are seriously challenged in the faculty of thought and right reasoning.

Do not use the name of the Sultan in vain. Do not flog the issue of Derhaka when it is UMNO/BN that have been all this while Derhaka and even Biadap towards the Raja-raja Melayu. There will be no end to the tussle for power in Perak as long as you do not get the mandate of the People. As long as you refuse to seek the mandate of the people, there will be legal challenges being filed one after the other. It is no point using the Sultan to "defend" this government or the next as they both stand on sand.

It is the mandate of the people of Perak that must put an end to all this rubbish.

You in UMNO/BN seriously think that Zambry can govern a state when his authority is in question - especially since you have flogged the Derhaka issue, you now cannot even get the views of the Court. If Zambry stands as MB without the colour of law, how can he bind the state to any administrative, policy or even contractual decision on the Peoples behalf? Aren't you even thinking about the legal repercussions of all Zambry's (illegal) acts (because Zambry's position is itself in question) on the State of Perak?
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written by Adely, February 20, 2009 12:30:13
Zahid, Zahid... I am appalled with your action trying to be a hero in Perak debacle. Well, may be you need to position yourself as a hero, as I feel that u have failed to be one in Bagan Datoh. Why you have failed? Since you took over as the Ketua Bahagian, the socio-economy of Bagan Datoh folks are getting worst. There is no economic enhancement for the folks of Bagan Datoh.

In areas along Jalan Simpang Tiga to Pekan Rungkup, the houses are in deplorable state. Have u ever ask yourself why? And the only house that is build like a mansion in Bagan Datoh area is your house in Sungai Nipah Darat. For the 20 years or more, the sole income generator in Bagan Datoh is coconut. Do you know how much they earn? Selling coconut, net income is around RM0.15 per coconut. If they work as dried coconut peeler, they are paid around RM3.00 per 100kg sack. A person can finish at most 3 sacks a day, giving them around RM9 a day. What can you do with RM9 a day for a family of 5 (average). And here you are trying championing the course. where is your conscience? By the way how do I know all this, Bagan Datoh is my dad hometown, and one of the kampong road is named after my grand-father – Tebok Hj Kiram. So Zahid, pi la balik kampong, and help the kampong folks to elevate their economic standing.

P/S this is one jawa kampong yang sudah lupa asal usul
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written by tanwi, February 20, 2009 12:35:08
this issue is overly politicised by UMNO. this is a legal and morality issue and stop bringin royalty into the fray.Thats the whole problem why UMNO is just dead in everyones eyes. FOCUS on development and well being of your citizens and not all this petty non-productive issues.
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written by johntyc, February 20, 2009 13:10:08
This Ahmad Zahid is trying to get all the attention he can get, like putting up 5 giant poster of his face behind 3 Ustaz during an Islamic talk show on TV1. There's nothing wrong with Perak Speaker's action because 1.it's part of his rights, 2.he got supports from majority of Perak people. don't believe me? call for a new snap election to prove me wrong!
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written by Msian Idol3, February 20, 2009 13:35:05
Rightfully this Zahid should be thrown into the dungeons. But hold on, this moron is from UMNO. There is no need for him to understand the truth & the meaning of treason. He blames everyone that does not agree with UMNO's actions. He definitely lack faith of the rakyat. If he has the guts, he would say hey brothers & sisters, lets go to the polls. But like any 2 headed snake & slimeball, he chose to stamp his low level intelligence by blaming others. Go to the polls & let the voices of the people be heard. Why so chicken???
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written by apa jadi, February 20, 2009 13:42:11
Make it simple. Anything that is not in BN's favour will be considered treason to the Sultan. Anything that is in their favour is no treason.

Remember whom they called Natang in Trengannu?

The monarchs in Malaysia are now mere tools to the BN machinery.
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written by renoir, February 20, 2009 13:57:04
> the sultan has the absolute power to appoint and sack the menteri besar, apart from appointing the new executive councillors....So if the exco members and the new MB are not allowed into the state assembly, Sivakumar has commited derhaka against the sultan for disobeying his command and his authority.]]

This is the kind of idiotic reasoning we can expect from the BN-spawned education system. The Sultan's powers regarding the appointment of MB and exec councillors do not stretch into penalties incurred by these people when they infringed state assembly rules and regulations.

The coup detat is seen as illegitimate not merely because of legal reasons, but also because the forces that supported the new group are unable to say or do things which meet the basic criteria of logic and common sense. No one could tolerate idiots in government and the present ruling party seems to be full of them.

LChuah
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written by BGs, February 20, 2009 14:01:36
Dr. ShaftIt is just another Ameno Goon jumping on the bandwagon Wasn't he the AmenoWolf head who abandoned Anwar soon after finding it too heavy going against MahalShit?
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written by asguard, February 20, 2009 14:19:06
UMNO always love to make the public believe that whatever they is right while whatever the opposition do is wrong!
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written by NeoMalaysian, February 20, 2009 14:42:07
Sivakumar is demonstrating PR can still maintain control through the devices of law... and not some cheap coup made by cheap scumbags who think they're so smart when all we see and say is.. "so stupid!" All they can threaten people with is treason, supremacy of race... bla bla bla bullshit. take de cerita lain ke?
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written by macanhitam, February 20, 2009 14:43:28
i am perakian and zahid hamidi doesnt sound like a perakian. he sounded more like an anak baruah stupid cow. i am defacing his facebook account now.

zahid hamidi's facebook - http://www.facebook.com/addfri...1515680686
and http://www.facebook.com/addfri...183957563.

add him and deface him. this racist retarded malay-faced pig doesnt deserve to live.
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written by Rundukon, February 20, 2009 14:56:23
When Ahmad Zahidi was still BSN Chairman, and when he visited Sabah...he smuggled call girls into his room at Jesselton Hotel. Now...he is de facto Islam Religious Minister? And he is championing someone who can differentiate between a genuine brandy/whisky from a fake one.
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written by uxzee, February 20, 2009 15:34:02
More Malays demonstrated against the Sultan's decision in Kuala Kangsar than the UMNO organised demonstartion for the Sultan in Ipoh.
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written by harmanamri, February 20, 2009 15:38:34
Yang derhaka sebenarnya di Perak ialah UMNO/BN yang sengaja melibatkan DYMM Sultan dalam permainan politik kotor mereka. Kita tidak tahu apa cara yang telah dilakukan mereka untuk "memaksa" Sultan mengambil langkah yang bertentangan dengan undang-undang serta konvensyen seperti yang pernah diungkapkan oleh Baginda sendiri dalam buku dan ucapan-ucapan Baginda dan anakanda Baginda sebelum ini. Jelas, kalau sekiranya krisis ini dibiarkan berterusan, imej institusi Kesultanan akan semakin terjejas. Saya setuju bahawa sistem Constitutional Monarchy perlu dipertahankan. Tetapi ini hanya boleh dilakukan setelah kepercayaan dan hormat pada sistem itu dipulihkan semula. Kini ia terjejas teruk. Apa yang perlu dilakukan di Perak sekarang? Saya rasa penyelesaiannya terpulang pada badan yang bernama Dewan Negara Perak, menurut peruntukan Perkara 21 (1) Bahagian Kedua Undang-undang Tubuh Kerajaan Perak. Demi kesejahteraan sistem Raja Berperlembagaan di Perak, diharap Dewan Negara Perak akan mengambil langkah yang sewajarnya dengan seberapa segera.
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written by budakindia, February 20, 2009 15:44:49
zahid are you living in the present or 500 years ago? There's no more absolute monarchy anymore you know. We are in a constitutional monarchy lar!
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written by joeawk, February 20, 2009 15:49:38
Zahid is anak derhaka. Against his own parents, his ancestors and the sultan. Was not him, who play the leaqd role in bribing the 2 bqarua from PKR and the tramp fromm DAP?

Zahid, the derhaka, should stop pointing fingers at others.
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written by carribeanking7, February 20, 2009 15:58:36
Zahid Hamidi, let me educate you on the terms

Treason - waging war against the yang dipertuan agung - as the Al-maunah armed group did.

Lese majeste - insulting royalty as Idris supporters did in Terennganu, when they carried banners calling the sultan "natang".

Exercising rights under the constitition and law cannot be considered treasomous nor lese majeste.

Talking about law, since you are de facto Minister for religion, and JAIS comes under your purview.....

Minister in charge of Islamic affairs Zahid Hamidi (also the architect of the Perak coup d'etat) says Eli Wong's ex-boyfriend
can be charged in the Syariah Court for Zina (adultery) if proven,makes one think why Zahid and the sanctimonious people at
the religious affairs department do not take action against Abdul Razak Baginda, since he is a self confessed adulterer.
who clearly said that he did not murder Altantuya but admits having an affair with her.
Yes, no incriminating pictures needed, we have a confession.
It does not help that the whole country knows that he is a close friend of the current deputy prime minister.
The DPM has yet to deny the sms exchange between himself and Razak Baginda's counsel that raise suspicion of interfering with the judiciary
and prisons department.

What has the religious affairs department have to say about this ? Oh and while they are at it they should also investigate pictures
purportedly showing Hishamuddin and Khairy partaking in alcohol.
Otherwise the government of the day should just stop the boorishly telling the citizens not to speculate.
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written by Goostee, February 20, 2009 16:06:30
CheGuevera,

It's in your interest to read the state constitution before making further fool of yourself and misleading your supporters into circles of your kind. The Sultan has the power to appoint and dismiss the EXCO members, but in respect of the MB he merely has the clout to appoint him. He has no power to dismiss the MB. This limitation was done on purpose by the UMNO goons to protect themselves. They envisaged that they were the only people filling the MB seat, and such provision was necessary to perpetuate their interests.
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written by peter, February 20, 2009 16:12:03
And these are not treason.





I've never seen a more despicable group of people than the umNO goons. There is just no word to describe these pariahs.

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written by sorosapril, February 20, 2009 16:23:10
I think UMNO should also ask the Sultan to give instruction to all Pakatan elected MP and State Assemblymen to resign from PAS,DAP and Keadilan and become independent, failure to do so will be treated as Treason, since those elected representatives will surely go against the order, this will really save millions as alleged.
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written by rpremkumar2u, February 20, 2009 16:53:16
Zahid, got the balls to file a compalint against the Speaker? Treason what? So only talk ah? Ya lah what else?
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written by Futurist, February 20, 2009 18:51:05
"in my opinion", "seditious", "derhaka","I think",
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All these words are just plain empty. What has been done by the speaker is within the legal framework.

The BN goons should state the rules and regulations where the speaker has gone wrong. Otherwise don't use the empty words of the above.
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written by Tompios, February 20, 2009 20:00:55
Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, I think you should change your title as Datuk Seri Dungu Dr. Ahmand Zahid HAMidi!

Next time you have better use your mouth to talk and brain to think then using your 'buasir' to talk and stool brain to think.
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written by Qcumber, February 20, 2009 21:44:51
He tried hard to drag in the Sultan. His words did not articulate well, could see clearly he was trying to associate the two non related matters, made him so stupid.
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written by hiro, February 20, 2009 22:53:10
I really hate this bunch of UMNO politicians. Unlike TDM who was at least more polished in his arguments (his arguments may be flawed but they are flawless within his microcosm or macrocosm as the case may be), these guys make really poor arguments.

The Sultan appoints the exco who are assemblypersons. The Speaker did not suspend the exco from their functions - that's the role of the constitutional action taken by Nizar. What the Speaker does is to prevent the assemblypersons appointed as exco from appearing in the Perak legislative chambers because of contept of the assembly. The excos will de facto be running the executive branch of the government, but they will not be able to attend the assembly.

These are clearly two separate things. The people, not the Sultan, appointed those excos to the assembly. To say that it is disrespect to the Sultan is to say that the Sultan's power overides that of the people.

What UMNO does is to drag the Sultan through mud, reduce the Sultan as another government department beholden to UMNO, incurring the extreme wrath of the people, and ensuring that the voices for a republic will grow louder by the day.
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written by Fart Fart Wah, February 21, 2009 00:53:10
UMNO DI MINTA SIASAT RAJA2 ...SO THIS IS NOT TREASON???

MAHATHIR CLIPPED THE WINGS OF THE SULTANS..NOT TREASON..

IN TRENGGANU RECENTLY UMNO WENT AGAINST THE SULTAN..NOT TREASON


HOWEVER SIVAKUMAR..IS TREASON..KARPAL IS TREASON..

YOU POOFTERS ARE THE SAME PLAYING ONE ANOTHER'S BACK...
...YELLOW BELLIED POOFTERS WHO DO NOT HAVE PRINCIPLES..

PODAH ZAHID...INI SATU SANDIWARA MAU CAKAP PADA ORANG MELAYU...
LIHATLAH ..SAYA WIRA ORANG MELAYU MEMPERTAHANKAN..HAK KERABAT DIRAJA..
SAYA WIRA ORNAG MELAYU....PODAH...TALAM DUA MUKA..

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written by 4country, February 21, 2009 01:01:43
Tak Usah Panjang cerita........

Orang ini ialah Orang yang diminati Najis, Kononnya, Dia akan jadi MB perak, Zambry Mamaaaak sekadar tempoh pendek saje..........

Kan ini dah menjelaskan segala-galanya?


Mampus P-lah Zahid!!

Berani kalau, sila masuk gelanggang Bukit Gantang! Jangan asyik nak main bahasa!
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