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The show is not over till the fat lady sings, goes the popular saying. And the fat lady has not sung yet. What will the final curtain be? Your guess is as good as mine. But I predict Perak will again change hands in the not too distant future.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

This is what Ooi Kee Beng said in his article, BN may pay a high price for Perak polarisation:

The change in government in the Malaysian state of Perak carries with it great implications for a long list of actors on both sides.

The Pakatan Rakyat (PR) government of Mr Mohd Nizar Jamaluddin has been replaced by the Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition following controversial defections that left the state assembly with 28 on each side, and with three independents declaring support for the BN.

There has definitely been a shift in power and a realignment of forces has certainly taken place. However, what we are witnessing is far from being an endgame of any kind. The game goes on. Indeed, it is not even clear who the real winners actually are. A lot depends on the time frame one chooses to use.

In the short term, Premier-in-waiting Najib Abdul Razak certainly did gain an advantage — he did manage to outsmart the Pakatan Rakyat state government. He displayed to the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) that he does have leadership qualities, and that he has able advisers.

The Perak crisis undoubtedly improved Mr Najib's stature just in time for the Umno elections next month, when he is to become party president, and therefore Prime Minister of the country. But since his claim to the presidency is in no doubt, the practical advantage of his success in felling the PR government in Perak lies more in bolstering support for candidates he favours for other positions in the party than anything else.

One other person keeping an eye on the party elections is Mr Khairy Jamaluddin, the son-in-law of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. Mr Khairy is one of the three candidates trying to become the head of Umno Youth. After the trouncing that Umno received in last year's general elections, Mr Khairy had been trying to reinvent himself as a closet liberal on the verge of coming out.

Mr Khairy grasped the opportunity offered by the Perak crisis to defend a purported challenge to the Perak royal house, and called for Mr Nizar to be expelled from Perak. This return to hardline methods undid much of the hard work Mr Khairy had been putting into improving his image in the eyes of the general public.

PR's anger at losing a government caused leading members of the coalition such as Mr Nizar and Mr Karpal Singh, a Member of Parliament and a veteran of the Democratic Action Party (DAP), to express dissatisfaction at Sultan Azlan Shah. Mr Karpal went so far as to threaten to sue the monarch.

The popularity that the Perak sovereign had enjoyed before the crisis dropped sharply after he refused to dissolve the state assembly at Mr Nizar's request but instead granted the BN — which lost the state in last year's elections — to build a new government based on support from PR defectors.

The outraged Mr Karpal had also called for opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim to take responsibility for PR's defeat and resign. DAP's secretary-general Lim Guan Eng had immediately reprimanded Mr Karpal and advised him to use internal channels for expressing his dissatisfaction. Mr Karpal is under pressure from all sides to retrace his steps.

Mr Anwar is being given much of the blame for the crisis, seeing how he was the one who had been, since March 8 last year, attempting to engineer defections from the BN in order to gain federal power. Pressure on him to regain the initiative in the ongoing battle with Mr Najib is also mounting. Two upcoming by-elections will provide Mr Anwar with that chance.

In the long run though, the victors may have to pay a high price for the Perak "coup". What the four defectors in this Shakespearean drama will actually gain is not clear in any way. Aside from whatever might have been promised them by the BN, their political future looks very bleak indeed.

The two PR-defecting assemblymen were, and are, facing corruption charges. The BN offer for them to switch sides promised them some respite. But as with Mr Nasaruddin Hashim, the BN defector who triggered the drama on Jan 26 and who re-defected 10 days later, the duo cannot expect a long career in politics.

DAP's Hee Jit Foong's decision to fell the government — whether done for monetary gains, for position or to spite her party — has made her a hated person in her constituency, and it is a mystery how she imagines to continue being in the public eye after her defection.

The lesson that the PR has to learn from this is that it cannot hope to achieve stable and good governance in the long run if incompetence and a lack of commitment continue to riddle its ranks. Many of its state assemblymen gained positions beyond their ability to manage following the March 8 voter revolt. The PR will have to take on the uncomfortable task of dismissing inept loyalists and replacing them with new talents in some graceful fashion.

It will also have to imagine a life after Mr Anwar. To do that, it has to form coalitional institutions to keep dialogue and understanding alive among its members.

As for the BN, the price that it will have to pay will not be small. Further polarisation has now taken place, not least among Perakians, and much anger has been stirred up against Mr Najib's methods. This will make it practically impossible for non-Malay BN parties in the north to campaign in any effective fashion in coming elections.

The Perak crisis also reminds Malaysians that the war between the coalitions will continue for a long time to come, and where the peninsula is concerned, it will be fought in the electoral frontline states of not only Perak, but also Kedah and Negri Sembilan.

The writer is a Fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. His latest book is March 8: Eclipsing May 13 (with Johan Saravanamuttu and Lee Hock Guan, Iseas)

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On 8 March 2008, Barisan Nasional won 28 seats in the Perak State Assembly. Although Umno won 27 seats and MCA one, it was Barisan Nasional and not Umno or MCA who contested the general election. Therefore, it was Barisan Nasional and not Umno or MCA who ‘owned’ those 28 seats. The second biggest winner was DAP, who won 18 seats. PKR and PAS came in third and fourth respectively.

This means, technically, Barisan Nasional should have formed the Perak State Government as it won more seats than DAP, PKR or PAS, individually. No doubt, many will argue that Pakatan Rakyat won 31 seats against Barisan Nasional’s 28, so Pakatan Rakyat should form the government. But Pakatan Rakyat does not legally exist. It is an informal and unregistered coalition. Pakatan Rakyat did not contest the elections. Those who did were Barisan Nasional, DAP, PKR and PAS.

Yes, four parties and not two parties contested the elections. And these four parties were Barisan Nasional, DAP, PKR and PAS. And Barisan Nasional won the most number of seats, 28 in total. The next in line was DAP with 18 seats, followed by PKR and PAS that won less than ten seats each.

The Sultan of Perak should have sworn in Barisan Nasional as the new state government of Perak since it had the most number of seats. But it would have been a minority government and how long could a minority government have lasted? The first meeting of the state assembly would need to be held within six months. And if the COMBINED 31 seats of DAP, PKR and PAS pass a vote of no confidence against the 28-seat Barisan Nasional government, the government would have fallen.

Note I wrote ‘the COMBINED 31 seats of DAP, PKR and PAS’ and not ‘the 31 seats of Pakatan Rakyat’. Pakatan Rakyat does not legally exist. DAP, PKR and PAS do.

The Sultan of Perak was not being generous or was taking sides in the matter. He knew that a 28-seat state government would not last if the 31 non-Barisan Nasional State Assemblypersons passed a vote of no confidence against it in the State Assembly. So he allowed DAP, PKR and PAS to combine their seats and form the new Perak state government. The Sultan was just being practical.

But the Sultan could have sworn in Barisan Nasional as the new Perak state government if he wanted to. Then the new state government calls for the first sitting of the Perak State Assembly. Understandably, the opposition would call for a vote of no confidence.

This, however, does not mean it will be 31 opposition State Assemblypersons against 28 Barisan Nasional State Assemblypersons. We are just assuming it will be so. What if two opposition State Assemblypersons vote with Barisan Nasional? It would then be 30 against 29 and the vote of no confidence would be defeated.

The two opposition State Assemblypersons need not even resign from DAP, PKR or PAS. They can still remain in their respective parties and not join Barisan Nasional. All they need to do is vote with Barisan Nasional and the vote of no confidence would be defeated and Barisan Nasional would remain the Perak state government.

The Sultan had two choices. One would be to allow DAP, PKR and PAS to combine their seats and form a LOOSE coalition and probably see it collapse within six months due to crossovers. The second would be to allow Barisan Nasional to form the government and probably see it collapse within six months due to a vote of no confidence passed against it in the State Assembly.

Whatever it may be, both scenarios involve a possible collapse of the state government within a mere few months. But the Sultan chose the first option: to allow DAP, PKR and PAS to combine their seats and ‘outgun’ Barisan Nasional’s 28 seats by just three seats. This means a mere shift of two seats and the government of Perak will change hands.

And this did happen exactly as forecasted. And the same thing would probably have happened as well if Barisan Nasional had formed the Perak state government. And it would take just months for it to happen.

The Sultan had his reservations. Whether Barisan Nasional, or a loose coalition of DAP, PKR and PAS, formed the new Perak state government, the government would be unstable and may not be able to last. PAS held Kelantan with a one-seat majority in the Kelantan State Assembly and lasted. But PAS is different. The PAS people are more committed. We can’t say the same thing for DAP and PKR who were already quarrelling even before the government could be formed.

Note the quality of the PKR people. Even though it had more seats than PAS, it could not provide the Menteri Besar and had to pass the job over to PAS even though it had the least number of seats in the Perak State Assembly. PKR just did not have the quality people needed to become Menteri Besar of Perak. What hope can you give a party that lacks quality candidates?

The Perak situation was a crisis waiting to happen. And it would not take that long to happen. One false move and the DAP-PKR-PAS loose coalition government of Perak would collapse. And it did collapse because two of the PKR people walked into a trap and found themselves faced with corruption charges.

But the problem does not end here. What happens to the corruption charges against those two ‘independent’ State Assemblymen? Will the charges now be dropped? If the charges are dropped then it would become too obvious. But if the charges remain and they face trial, then another problem crops up.

First would be what surfaces in the trial. If the trial reveals they were fixed up, then Barisan Nasional would look bad. But if they were not fixed up and really are guilty of corruption, Barisan Nasional would also look bad. Both ways Barisan Nasional would look bad. And if they are found guilty because they really are guilty then there will be two more by-elections in Perak, which the opposition will surely win. And we will end up with 30 opposition seats against only 29 from Barisan Nasional.

This means the Perak government will again change hands like it did last week, but this time from Barisan Nasional to a loose coalition of DAP, PKR and PAS.

Then we have the problem of Hee. She is expected to resign due to the pressure she is facing. This means yet another seat will fall vacant and yet another by-election will be held.

Maybe over the 11 months since 8 March 2008, the loose coalition of DAP, PKR and PAS was running Perak with uncertainty about its future. But the new Barisan Nasional government of Perak is not on any more solid ground than the previous government. It too faces the possibility of being driven out of office.

The show is not over till the fat lady sings, goes the popular saying. And the fat lady has not sung yet. What will the final curtain be? Your guess is as good as mine. But I predict Perak will again change hands in the not too distant future. And since the Sultan of Perak has already set the trend on how governments shall change, the same formula will have to be applied once DAP, PKR and PAS, combined, have more seats than Barisan Nasional. The knife, as they say, cuts both ways.

Karpal wants Anwar Ibrahim to take the blame for the Perak fiasco. At the DAP Pandamaran Chinese New Year open house earlier this week, I said, in my speech, that I support what Karpal said. Hey, we accuse Barisan Nasional of not respecting freedom of speech. If we don’t allow Karpal to speak his mind then how better are we compared to Barisan Nasional?

Anyway, while I support what Karpal said, the blame should not be placed entirely on Anwar’s shoulders. We are not like Barisan Nasional. Barisan Nasional looks for scapegoats. We are a loose coalition called Pakatan Rakyat. In Pakatan Rakyat we practise decisions by consensus. And decisions by consensus mean there must be collective responsibility. So no one person must take the blame. The entire leadership has to take the blame.

So, while it is well and fine that Karpal wants Anwar to resign, I was of the opinion that if resignations were in order then all the top leaders of the three parties must resign. The press reported that I said all three top leaders must resign -- Anwar, Lim Kit Siang and Hadi Awang -- which is not what I said. In fact, when the press asked me whether I meant the three top leaders, I replied, “Not three. Why three? It may even be 30. All those responsible for the decision that resulted in what happened in Perak are equally responsible.”

We seem to forget that one of the major beefs we have against Barisan Nasional is that they arrest and jail us or detain us without trial when we criticise the government. We demand freedom of expression. But we only want the freedom to criticise Umno or Barisan Nasional. We do not want freedom to criticise the opposition.

You can disagree with what Karpal said. But you must respect his right to say what he wants to say. If not, then we are just like Barisan Nasional. In principle, I agree with his demand for the resignation of Anwar -- in principle only as far as his right to demand Anwar’s resignation is concerned, although I do not share the same sentiments. But I disagree that it must only be Anwar who has to resign -- that is if we want him to resign. If there are going to be any resignations then many more have to do so in the spirit of collective responsibility. We do not want to see the lynching of scapegoats a la Barisan Nasional in the opposition Pakatan Rakyat.

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written by non conformist, February 14, 2009 13:54:22
'The show is not over till the fat lady sings '

Please stuff the Fat Lady with the spiciest chilly padi so that she would sing her very best before she is incinerated and flushed down the wc with najis.
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written by AzizKadir2u, February 14, 2009 13:57:01
we all rakyat, people must wake up, have you paid enough toll ? have you pay enough taxes ? have you pay enough of AP ? everything we do even Pee, we pay. That is the govermen of Umno,BN, cronies capable, everything every malaysian, rakyat tak kira siapa, masuk highway bayar toll, pay toll everywhere ? the most toll city/capital in the world ! and jam everywhere, jam in LDP everyday !!! and yet have to pay toll. the Cheras Mahkota, kita bayar buta buta, untill heavey protest,
they make the 2km road to go out of the highway, became 7km, then charges toll every day, casing jam, rakyat have to go to protest untill the cow come home, protest with the police harassment, this is malaysia boleh ! Umno boleh, BN boleh, toll sini, toll disana, di mana mana pun ada toll, dan toll naik harga, selalu, toll tak habis habis.
we rakyat must wake up, yes we can, USA already got a new govermen, we got this kind of government that take care of cronies, goverment that very rich, very corrupt, very corect,coret,coret, yet we vote for them ? we rakyat all very poor by the day, we deserve so much better, we are so poor compared to Singapore, and HK, they dont even have any resources ????? shit when are we going to wake up ?
not enough paying Toll, stuck in the jam ? remember Bandar Mahkota Cheras ? we must demonstrate peacefully, throught the vote, we rakyat must make sure in the coming by election and every other election, we choose the alternative Pakat, pakatan we only will see a better goverment.
remember, we change the govermen, we got free water from Selangor,
we got the kedah goverment give 50% discount to our cukai tanah, cukai pintu,
we got free rice for the poor in Penang, we got free water for the hard core poor.
we got the goverment take out the toll in PJS 2, whate else ?
we must change and choose pakatan, we will see better benefit.
govermen is to work for the rakyat, not goverment that make rakyat pay, pay, pay,
BN = Bayar Never finish, Bayar Negara, bayar negeri, Bureucratik Negara,
BN = Banyak Neraka,
we rakyat must wake up. enough is enough.
this April 7th 2009, we make sure the 2 by election, we send a very powerful message to govemen, change change change,
the next general election in 2013 or 2012 March 8th we will have a new federal govermen.
we must make sure our country, is manage properly, clean govermen,
no more toll,
no more AP,
no more crime,
rakyat live happily , goverment to make sure rakyat do not suffer !
yes we can !
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written by Oscar Winner, February 14, 2009 14:01:18
When the fat lady sings, the show will be over. No more audience. Better just fart.

PR must sit down to strategise. Without DSAI, it will be a long wait for dawn of a new ara. Rakyat can't wait any longer
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written by Dominic, February 14, 2009 14:02:50
UMNO should be banished for good ! Its existence is infact to surpress the ordinary Malays to enrich only the elite few ! Yet,sad to say,thats not what the majority of them seem to believe ! Malaysia, without UMNO am sure would be so much better of ! With Najis taking over soon,this country is destine to be DOOMED !
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written by Fuminari, February 14, 2009 14:05:42
RPK has clearified n that spineless leech by the sir name of wong from 'the star' has been proven to be jus another umno be end dog,another umno be end fed liar!!!
boycott the MSM!n let them see red in no time.
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written by volkswagen, February 14, 2009 14:06:15
Keep on mounting the pressure on the fat lady until she resigns. She will have to lead a life like a fugitive, but for how long she can stand it? What is the meaning of life if she can see the world only by peeping through the key hole. She will eventually learn that money cannot buy freedom. The curse on her should go on.
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written by SCM, February 14, 2009 14:06:58
But Pete, Rosmah has already sung.
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written by AzizKadir2u, February 14, 2009 14:08:46
Rakyat Malaysia, what have we learn from the above Perak etc, we rakyat malaysia must vote for pakatan in a 2/3 majority in very Adun seats, why ? Umnocronies got money, and powerful they can buy vote, they can ask police to vote, and before the vote count, they alaredy got 5000 votes for
what else we learn ? from perak ? minority governemtn is no good. we must have pakatan with 2/3 majority. we must support our alternative, so that we dont get ISA, pay toll, pay toll, pay AP, pay taxes, coret coret coret.
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written by justinlian, February 14, 2009 14:13:23
Mind you all, Najib can still win the hearts of the people in perak and malaysia if he is willing to place the bets but I doubt he will as to him there aint much time left but for pakatan to win is not hard as the bets already there for the future.
Till the fat lady sings...................
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written by densemy, February 14, 2009 14:14:38
"He displayed to the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) that he does have leadership qualities, and that he has able advisers."

Dont you mean:

He displayed to the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) that he does have GREEDERSHIP qualities, and that he has INCAPABLE advisers.

His move has done nothing but further destabilise and already unsteady nation. Like all good UMNO members ( I hesitate to call them men) they are hell bent on tearing this Nation apart... Their only goal is self.
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written by eskay, February 14, 2009 14:17:28
Thanks RPK, this article itself will definitely help to restore back confidence in our Perak Royal family to a certain extent, at least will help to take away some of the terrible shock, grief & disappointment of the Perakians & Malaysians that the Sultan Of Perak did not desert us as perceived by most.

PR, pls waste no more precious time picking at UMNO's faults, rakyat know their weakness very well and very clearly. Pls work harder to strengthen your parties for the benefit of all Malaysians. Wish you all the best. Cheers !
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written by meswara, February 14, 2009 14:17:51
very well said ....
long live RPK.... he is a guiding light in this mess.... hope pkr, dap, pas are reading this and learn to put their differences aside and forge a formidable alliance....
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written by volkswagen, February 14, 2009 14:19:39
I have a feeling that, once Hee has reached the 'melting point', she will just resign as ADUN, either migrate or goes into hiding at distant land. She has got nothing left in her, to warrant people to call her a human being.
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written by temenggong, February 14, 2009 14:24:03
The sultan did no favour by asking the informal Pakatan to form the govt after 3/08. It is his right to choose whomever he thinks commands the majority in the house. He exercised his discretion.

However it is not his discretionary power to appoint a new MB last week. Neither is his refusal to heed the advice of the MB to dissolve the dewan lawful. Here he faulted big time for two constitutional mistakes. Neither Nizar, Anwar, Hadi or Kit Siang have faulted in any way.

This is a loss by desertions and the illegitimate doing of a wayward sultan, so I don't think any politician has to resign. On what basis is Karpal Singh calling for Anwar to resign? The DAP chairman can only advice his party to withdraw from Pakatan if they so wish.

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written by DezMalaysia, February 14, 2009 14:28:50
I do respect Karpal's rights to speak / criticize. But going to the press to bark like mad dog is not the way. If he wants to do some criticize on DSAI,Hadi,Uncle Lim or any leaders in the same ship, do it with a proper channel (Discussion Table) instead of doing a lone ranger shooting by going berserk !

I know he's a man with principle, a fearless justice, no-nonsense tiger...
If he still do it the Rambo way, I'll still be thinking, "Kapal is sinking !", ask him to go to hell.
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written by cahaya, February 14, 2009 14:29:41

We cannot agree that top PR leaders, whether 3 or 30 or whatever number, should resign to take responsibility for their collective failure to launch a pre-emptive strike. Such resignations would not be in the best interest for ‘anak bangsa Malaysia’ or a better future in Malaysia. If all the top PR leaders were to resign for their mistakes in Perak, it could take many years and another generation for Malaysia to reach 308 again. No, we cannot ask them to resign.

We should be more forgiving of their failures, and allow them to make amends. The PR leaders must learn from their mistakes. Henceforth, they should be more humble to listen to wisdom from the ground (heed of warnings from RPK and other political observers), be more patient to spend time for better strategic planning, and be more united to exercise better collective leadership.

PR leaders should also field better candidates for by-elections and general elections - - competent and honest persons who are committed to serving the rakyat with dedication for their entire term of office.

Yes, it is not over yet. We also believe that Perak will change hands soon.
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written by cahaya, February 14, 2009 14:30:36
RPK, your comments are indeed neutral. We praise you for your vision and principles. May God watch over you and your family. May God Almighty help you (and your legal team) truimph over your enemies. Warm wishes to you and Marina!
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written by mykantree, February 14, 2009 14:37:30
For what Hee has done, she should resign straightaway. Her Brutus action of stabbing DAP in the back cannot be forgiven and should never be. And I agree with volkswagen that "she has got nothing left in her, to warrant people to call her a human being." She is best left to simmer in her own juice.
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written by OVERLORD, February 14, 2009 14:39:31
RPK, thanks for the clarification concerning your quote from the idioctic Star Newspaper....On the Perak fiasco, I still disagree when you say that the King was just doing his job and being practical. The King made a mistake by shouldering the burden of appointing a reliable government...He should have given that mandate back to his subjects to make a choice between these 2 unstable entities...In the meantime, I would agree with the fact that PR has a lot of house cleaning to do,probably some weeding and mowing (getting their shit together)...at the moment, they are not even comfortable being sleeping partners....but through the devastationg loss of PR, we see a gem rising from the ashes in the form of Nizar...he brings new hope to all of us ... PR has to look deeper to uncover rough diamonds and entrust them with bigger responsibilities
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written by SL Chan, February 14, 2009 14:43:43
I FULLY AGREE WITH YM RPK MENTION "Anyway, while I support what Karpal said, the blame should not be placed entirely on Anwar’s shoulders. We are not like Barisan Nasional. Barisan Nasional looks for scapegoats. We are a loose coalition called Pakatan Rakyat. In Pakatan Rakyat we practise decisions by consensus. And decisions by consensus mean there must be collective responsibility. So no one person must take the blame. The entire leadership has to take the blame."

and ESPECIALLY THESE WAKILS ARE SUCKS ESPECIALLY FROM PKR AND DAP...TIME TO CLEANUP THE HOUSE AND FLUSH OUT THIS TYPE OF "TROJAN HORSE" QUALITY WAKILS..PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ALL THIS CRAP!!!!!!!
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written by NSTPravda, February 14, 2009 14:50:21
Wah! RPK an impressive piece of reasoning
Or as we, in UMNO would say, a piss of treasoning


But then, with all this uncertainty and confusion
Surely the best is to call for another election
Why not seek from the rakyat a new mandate?
Wouldn’t that put to rest all these noisy debate?


Surely, he has royal strategists with sound advice
Formal mandate sought and given, a much better device
Now we have battered the constitutional ship
Making the Ruler appears the stooge of Najib

Something is still rotten in the state of Perak
The unwise move is unbecoming for a respected monarch
However it’s viewed, even this explanation by RPK
The stench in Perak is not altogether semua-nya OK!

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written by hellosunshine, February 14, 2009 15:15:08
RPK, those at the top of the heap in PR should all bear the responsibility of losing Perak to UMNO but if these leaders were to resign, who can fill in their shoes in PR? Do we have any capable and charismatic leaders yet? If not, why not give these leaders a knock on the head and let them know they are now under the radar of the rakyat and they must buck up or f**k off if they screwed up again. 2 strikes and not 3 and you are out of here. smilies/wink.gif
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written by Super Admin, February 14, 2009 15:19:52
hellosunshine, which part of this you do not understand?

1) I was of the opinion that if resignations were in order then all the top leaders of the three parties must resign.

2) If there are going to be any resignations then many more have to do so in the spirit of collective responsibility.
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written by miwaki, February 14, 2009 15:21:27
Pete is right,Perak state government will change hand very soon but when it takes place,BN will not be able to take it back.Righteousness will always triumph over evil.
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written by Taiping60, February 14, 2009 15:23:39
I am not against any party but everyone must adhere to the law regardless of whether they are politicians or rulers.

Those entrusted to enforce the law have to be neutral otherwise everything else will be compromised.
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written by cruzeiro, February 14, 2009 15:29:30
Hear, hear Temenggong!

I'm with you on this, mate!

But then again, Karpal can say what he wants, as long as it doesn't infringe on anybody else's rights ...
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written by singam, February 14, 2009 15:30:38
I agree with DezMalaysia.

Freedom of speech should be a fundamental right. But with freedom comes responsibility. MT readers enjoy tremendous freedom of speech. And some have abused that freedom to the detriment of MT.

The Pakatan leaders must come to terms with three factors many of them don't appear to be familiar with...

1. No doubt they are still the opposition at Federal and in some of the states. But they have to learn to carry and present themselves like government leaders. The rhetoric that they are used to spewing as opposition leaders does not do them any good.

2. While they are officially still nothing more than a loose alliance of parties, they should begin to act like a proper coalition. If they want to wait until they are properly registered, they may not get the chance. They should have a lot more of internal discussions and come out with common positions on current issues.

3. The MSM is enemy territory. They have to understand this and never forget it. They have to be very careful about what they say. Even what is said carefully can be twisted and spun to the favour of the BN. Everything they say has to be measured and calculated, and available in writing. Of the cuff remarks can be deadly.

Even when someone as respected and well loved as RPK was misquoted, we saw how people reacted with such rabid anger, instead of trying to find out what was really said. This can be expected because freedom of speech is a new toy. So if the PR leaders want to be accepted by the people and seen as responsible, they must learn to be very careful of what they say to the press, especially to the MSM.

Yes, Karpal Singh had every right to call for Anwar's resignation. But it was bloody stupid of him to say that to the MSM! Was he seeking cheap publicity? He should instead have said that to Anwar's face. At a closed-door meeting.

That is how freedom is tempered with responsibility.
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written by cruzeiro, February 14, 2009 15:31:05
Except for the seditious part lah .... he's human, y'know.
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written by 2edgedsword, February 14, 2009 15:32:39
Our politicians, whether incumbent or opposition, are hell-bent to destabilize each other using diabolical ways than to compete with each other in serving the electorate. Grow up.
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written by MAMR, February 14, 2009 15:32:55
"The outraged Mr Karpal had also called for opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim to take responsibility for PR's defeat and resign. DAP's secretary-general Lim Guan Eng had immediately reprimanded Mr Karpal and advised him to use internal channels for expressing his dissatisfaction. Mr Karpal is under pressure from all sides to retrace his steps.
PR's anger at losing a government caused leading members of the coalition such as Mr Nizar and Mr Karpal Singh, a Member of Parliament and a veteran of the Democratic Action Party (DAP), to express dissatisfaction at Sultan Azlan Shah. Mr Karpal went so far as to threaten to sue the monarch".

Based on the above statements I am of the opinion that for somebody on the street to utter something related to his close ally or Ruler it is quite acceptable, but for somebody like Mr Karpal to ignore his ally in PR and to the extend to sue the Ruler that is unthinkable, why I say that, Msia is not a true Democratic country by practice and with Najib who is a crook to me until he is willing to be investigated of all accusations thrown against him , he will capitalise on the issue to make PR very bad and maybe in the process winning a few of Rakyat who is less open. Why do that when we are way forward in achieving a new PR as Federal Govt. It can be observed that how many seats won by oppositions previously before DSAI's involvement. I am very eager for PR to form Federal Govt because A LOT OF WRONGDOINGS done by BN had to be exposed and those concerned must be charged in court for mismanaged of MONEY WHICH BELONGS TO RAKYAT.
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written by lamakawan, February 14, 2009 15:45:57
Well done, Pete. it is only fair that we allow Karpal to express his opinion to the people. it is up to the people's decision whether they accept his ideas or not. we are in a democratic country. And all of a sudden we hear MAD DOGS FROM UMNO YOUTH CRYING FOR KARPAL TO BE EXPELLED FROM MALAYSIA AND ARRESTED. These umno people do not understand or rather prefer not to understand that we are living in a democratic country with equal rights for self expression. They always think the country belongs to their grandfather which they called datuk in malay. To be fair to Karpal, he must be one of the few people in Malaysia who displays the truth of loyaly nationalism in his blood.
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written by BennyG, February 14, 2009 15:55:21
Somehow I sense a sinister plot to discredit the Perak Royal family. Someone knew their weakness and they had used this weakness to twist the Royal family's decision to their favour. Now all the Royal families is not safe from these people.

One advice that I hope Hee will hear. Take the money (hopefully you had received the money already) and resign and move to a better place. At least, at that place, you could have some dignity left.



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written by aspiring blogger, February 14, 2009 16:18:04
Actually, the the popular saying goes "The OPERA isn't over until the fat lady sings".
Hehehehe.
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written by mikewang, February 14, 2009 16:20:10
If those top leaders resign today especially so if it is going to be DSAI, we might as well hand over the country to UMNO and BN without a fight.

The experience in Perak shows, despite initial reservations, even PAS and DAP can work together if it is for the common good of the people.
So if no one is going to resign, I think it is best the individual parties in the loose coalition of PR declare a moratorium to just shut up and focus on getting UMNO out of the way for at least 2 terms.

After that we can talk about apportioning blame and hand the country back to a truly reformed UMNO and BN.
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written by teo siew chin, February 14, 2009 16:26:14
"But I predict Perak will again change..."
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wahhhhh YM RPK - if only i can gaze at those balls of yours !!!! I mean your crystal ball. Anyways, the PR loose coalition better tighten their bolts and be ready to rumble. We so wanna have the fat lady sing "IT'S OVER!"
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written by Navigator, February 14, 2009 16:29:30
Malaysia is a country in which the politicians help the rich to rob the poor. They allow a few rich cronies to build highways at inflated prices and then charge unreasonable toll so that the cronies will never lose money. The poor are the common Malays, Chinese and Indians. So how does UMNO claim they are helping the Malays when the Malays have to pay the exorbitan tolls? Mahathir knew this was explosive and he covered everything under the Official Secrets Act. In antagonising Badawi, he shot himself in the foot when Badawi declassifued the documents.

Now BN (or UMNO) wants to review the agreements but this would never have been done if the public had not voted for PKR. We must continue voting for PKR to see a fairer deal for all Malaysian, irrespective of race.
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written by pixieface, February 14, 2009 16:32:40
What RPK advocate is true. The ONUS now is, PR should recruit more capable and
qualified candidates to stand for election.
There are qualified and capable people out there but they are the audience and not
actors. Maybe because of the perception of politics being a dirty game per se.
Methinks its now time for those qualified to volunteer themselves to lift our nation to its former glory.
Shed the ketuanan, race, colour and religion issues and focus on malaysia for ALL ANAK MALAYSIA. TAKE A STAND NOW AND NOT BE FENCE SITTERS.
Will they come forward to help their nation.
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written by rpremkumar2u, February 14, 2009 17:03:17
his is a fine example of thinking outside the box.
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written by bogeyman, February 14, 2009 17:08:34
Perak govt can change hands again provided :
1) PKR gets qualified, committed and upright candidates.. or else give the seats to PAS or DAP if they can't find any.
2)DAP stops harping on petty issues and tread carefully on sensitive ones. DAP can be as racist as BN sometimes....
3)PAS has to officially drop their agenda of an Islamic State.
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written by machitam, February 14, 2009 17:24:58
A coalition goverment e.g PR or Pakatan Rakyat does not have to be registered to exist. A coalition goverment can be a two or more political party working together(joint forcers) to form a goverment. In other democratic countries with multi party system, a coalition can be formed base on understanding between political parties that have won seats in Parlimen. This is to justify support(votes)among legislators to form a goverment. As for PR they have built the understanding that they are coalition partners in the March 8 GE. Thus PR coalition exist and the question of legality does not arise. This have been a practice in many democratic goverment throughout the world.

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written by hellosunshine, February 14, 2009 17:32:54
Hellooo RPK, which part of my comments you do not understand? I am on the same page as you on 1) and 2) but I asked if all of them were to resign, do we have capable leaders to take over. Duh!
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written by kkselvam, February 14, 2009 18:03:14
A mesmerizing article to read. Thank you RPK!
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written by malaysianohope, February 14, 2009 18:34:36
No, Abang nobody will like it if the fat lady sings, not even Paula Abdul nevermind Simon Cowe! Yes, Perakian is in for an extended matinee & C4 should wipe off his smirky grin simply because the current impass is certainly unattainable with 2 adun under corruption charge & the tenor of the infamous prostitute of Jelapang is under tremendous pressure from her constituency. Also, the issue of whether the position of the current Speaker from PKR can be removed by other an Assembly must also be taken into account. Finally, what the impact would be particulary on C4 premiership if barisan loses both the Bukit Gantang & Bukit Selambau seats.
Definitely trying time for C4 & the fat lady but they deserve it.
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written by hellosunshine, February 14, 2009 18:35:00
Some ass-kissers are so blinded by loyalty that they can't see the wood for the trees. Yeah, go ahead. Sack all the 30 odd leaders in PR and then what? Jeeez!!!! smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by AsamLaksa, February 14, 2009 19:16:00
RPK,

Many Malaysians still do not grasp politics of principles. For example the principle of freedom of speech. As you say it cuts both ways. I have so far found no wrong with what Karpal Singh said be it screaming anti-hop law like a broken record, threatening to sue the sultan or claiming Anwar should resign. It's his opinion. These opinions make me think more on the issue. Karpal Singh has consistently shown firm principles.

On the issue or party hopping, it can happen both ways and I was disappointed that many Malaysians would be ok if it went one way but not another. This led to many Malaysians preferring not to have anti-hop law before September 16 2008 hoping that a mass defection from BN to PR would happen. Now when PR aduns jumped to BN, they scream anti-hop law.

I am of the initial opinion that anti-hop law is not needed as I looked at examples in other modern democracies, especially in the West. Forgive me for my western lenses but there isn't a need for anti-hop law in democracies where the politicians are politically mature. Politicians in the West do not simply change parties or turn independent on a whim. In fact, if they have disagreement within their parties they have the opportunity to voice it out and even vote against the party. The politicians would face the wrath of the voters if they changed party for no good reason in the eyes of the voters.

But Malaysia is sadly not ready for mature modern politics, where tribalism and factionalism is strongly practised. Many politicians from both sides do not display statesmanship. They appear to have forgotten that their position is a privilege bestowed on them by the voters and they are acting on trust for the voters who put them there. Thus there should be no place for personal issues. If there is a conflict in decision, then they need to refer back to the voters because the voters are the beneficiaries. If a politician feel that he can't act for the best interest of the voters any longer, then he/she should resign, just like the Kedah adun.

For example, it is with this concept that Hee's action appears extremely petty. If she disagreed with DAP, she could leave DAP for all I care but before she decided to change any state government, she should consult her voters. She didn't and no justification from her would work. If DAP didn't want her, then it's fine. Be a professional and just leave DAP. But that doesn't mean that the voters want her to support BN and change the state government. Thus she appears petty, vindictive and care little of her voters' wishes.

Back to anti-hop law, well, because of the risk of corruption, like in India, I can see that there is a role for such a law. Otherwise, if corruption is not a problem and the politicians are principled, I see no such need for anti-hopping laws.

I also urge Malaysians in general to embrace principles in their everyday life. Don't just let personal sentiments run riot. This is so that you can see through a lot of the crap politicians throw at you from whichever direction they come from.
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written by rosso, February 14, 2009 19:19:04
TALK IS CHEAP. Allocating blame is also all too easy - especially on hindsight. Anger and disappointment paves way for emotional backlash (one wants to hit at something . . .anything). But do you know what is difficult ? BUILDING the Pakatan to what it is today. So go ahead you guys ...in your self righteousness, ask every body you know in Pakatan to resign. What then are you left with ? Sometimes I think people in MT TOK KOK like those in Barisan Najis.
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written by OutsideLookingIn, February 14, 2009 19:35:35
Malaysia may have been independent for >50 years but for much of that time, it has been run by one corrupt coalition of parties. There has not been any democracy during this time. There has not been an attempt in "education" the masses of their responsibilities under a true democracy. There has been a huge lack of capable "leaders" amongst the people - a situation perpetrated by the current administration to maintain their power. Opposition politiicians, bloggers the like of RPK etc would like to see that BN lose the next election federally and in as many states as possible but there must be more to it than winning election. As I have mentioned on previous posts, you must not win for the sake of winning lest you become another BN. It is through this blog and other similar as well many forums that Keadilan, DAP and PAS should be holding over the next 2-3 years that the following be disseminated:

Good governance in administration
Government of transparency
Honesty and integrity amongst politicians
Government by the people and for the people

There are lots more to do out there after years of neglect by successive BN governments. Concentrate on doing things that matter for the people. Concentrate ofn educating the masses so that they can never ever be fooled by any one come bearing gifts. Educate the masses as what is good governance. Educated the masses to kick which ever politician whichever government that has lost their way - irrespective of which party they belong to.

Every time I read the papers of fully able men and women dying from heart attacks I think of such waste. What has the Malaysian government been doing to save all these capable Malaysians from dying! What about infant mortality, diabetes rate, etc etc. Malaysians deserve better government. Malaysia has the capability if only the country ius governed better. The brain drain from Malaysian is enormous and the country is poorer for it. I am one of those "drained".

So, PKR - stop getting preoccupied with getting elected. Make sure you are ready to govern. You only have one chance at it.

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written by bestcoffee, February 14, 2009 19:45:54
watz the matter ? all comments are waste of time.
Najib and his gangs hv 26 days left.
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written by ylcc, February 14, 2009 19:47:23
I wonder what some of us are getting upset about? This is just a discussion/clarification. Do you see anyone resigning? Here we are discussing so intently, there our leaders are huddled in a corner to plan their next move. So, do not worry. Happy Valentine, go enjoy a candlelight dinner with your loved ones.
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written by Sabahfan, February 14, 2009 21:14:54
Stop arguing..


We should have only one objective and that is to get rid of....

UMNOcracy = govt of the corrupt, by the corrupt and for the corrupt...
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written by singam, February 14, 2009 21:35:55
AssamLaksa wrote "On the issue or party hopping, it can happen both ways and I was disappointed that many Malaysians would be ok if it went one way but not another. This led to many Malaysians preferring not to have anti-hop law before September 16 2008 hoping that a mass defection from BN to PR would happen. Now when PR aduns jumped to BN, they scream anti-hop law.

Party hopping is legal, let's make no mistake about it. Those who object to party hopping cite the fact that a particular representative only got elected because he/she stood under a particular party flag. Therefore the act of hopping to join another party is unethical. More so if the hop is for personal gain and not a reflection of a shift in political objectives.

As to the hopping from BN to PR versus the reverse, remember that the PR had openly declared that after grabbing Federal power, they would bring the matter back to the people by calling for fresh elections. Notice how the BN, during and after the coup in Perak, are desperately avoiding going back to the people?

Therein lies the difference. This is what has filled the people with loathing.
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written by Rozlan, February 14, 2009 21:39:55
RPK

We admit that everybody should be given the right to speak but Mr Karpal should not become a loose cannon at this trying time.A loose cannon hurt everybody including his own allies...
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written by tumbledore, February 14, 2009 22:19:52

PR is the only chance we have
and Mr Anwar is the only charismatic
leader at present.

PR is a coalition party as in other
democratic governments; example the
Republic of Germany. they are ruled by
a coalition of three parties, they call
themselves 'the big coalition'.

just like a drowning man who would clutch
onto anything to save his life, the
rakyat is holding onto PR. give them
some hope and not bad tidings.






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written by mendela, February 14, 2009 22:36:48
Who is the fat lady?

Is it AP Queen Rafidah?

Or C4 Rosie?
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written by truthreallyhurts, February 14, 2009 22:40:24
The show's not over until the fat lady sings.... Yes, but given UMNO's track record, the fat lady is likely to be kidnapped or detained under the ISA and the keys thrown away. So PR must keep a watchful eye on Sivakumar to ensure he doesn't suddenly disappear like Bala and Arumugam, as Sivakumar is now looked upon as the fat lady in distress!
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written by renoir, February 14, 2009 22:47:50
Excellent comments, as expected from a mature people who'd suffered much from 50 years of misrule. As I'd stated in a number of postings, Karpal has the right to say his piece, but because his comments appeared to arise at certain critical moments - such as his hudud outburst at a time when PAS was fighting at KT - others cannot be blamed for questioning his sense of timing or the direction of his loyalty. Secondly, there's such a thing as proper channels and teamwork, and using the malignant BN media to attack one's comrades just ain't proper. Nevertheless, he still has the right to say the things he said, but others too have the right to criticize him - and as in-your-face and he does to others.

I'd also mentioned the practice of party-hopping in other countries. The difference, I pointed out, lies in what appears to be the involvement of rampant bribery in our country - oftentimes, allegedly, involving millions of dollars. Given the speculations about such bribes, the least any independent ACA could do is to start investigations. Unfortunately, we don't have anything resembling independence in any of our important institutions.

LChuah
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written by RAW, February 14, 2009 23:27:44
Previously, when Anwar score a lot of victories, everone applause and urge him to change the government by all means. Hurry up. Now a little set back, already putting the blame on him and ask him to resign. What the shit!
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written by ROBERTNGTG, February 15, 2009 10:25:25
The show is not over till the fat lady sings, goes the popular saying. And the fat lady has not sung yet. What will the final curtain be? Your guess is as good as mine. But I predict Perak will again change hands in the not too distant future.

In the short term, Premier-in-waiting Najib Abdul Razak certainly did gain an advantage — he did manage to outsmart the Pakatan Rakyat state government. He displayed to the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) that he does have leadership qualities, and that he has able advisers.

BOY, I CANT TO SEE THE RED FACES OF THOSE WHO HASTILY AGREED TO THE CHANGE OF GOMEN.
AND YES, NAJIS JUST SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD THAT HE HAS
THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF CROOKS, CHEATS, LIARS, SWINDLERS ETC IN HIS STABLE TO RULE BY HOOK OR BY CROOK.
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written by carribeanking7, February 15, 2009 14:46:47
What we are seeing here is real democracy in action where a component party or individuals can freely air dissenting views, and each is an equal partner roughly holding 1/3rd the pakatan mandate,so there is no big brother syndrom like the one UMNO holds within BN. The point is there is check and balance within pakatan, for BN on the other hand UMNO pushes trough it own agenda by intimidation whether or not coalition partners agree.
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written by minime, February 15, 2009 19:11:04
The fiasco in Perak has taught us(PR) a lesson.The rakyat is not too happy about the hijack.Where ever I go, in Kedah,KL and Selangor, everybody is against the takeover.

As of now, the kinetics are on PR's hands.Use them wisely in the upcoming 2 by elections.But please stop washing dirty linen in public.Leaders in the PR camp should work closely and direct opinions in an internal forum.What the rakyat see now is disunity between the PR coalition.The rakyat would not hesitate to pull the plug if things go on this way.The rakyat does not want uncertainties.It would be better to vote for BN then, as they keep to their coalition spirit by not fighting against each other even in times of displeasure.

And PR....please filter your candidates before you field them.This is what happens when you give a postman and a clerk the assembly persons chair!

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written by Beautiful Mind, February 15, 2009 21:16:01
Thanks a million RPK for painting us a bigger picture of the current political turmoil in Perak. Many have a rough idea on what is taking place there but you put it in such clarity.

I sincerely hope that Datok Seri Nizar will claim back his position as MB very soon. He is a good man, the people's choice and still is the MB for Perak to many at heart.
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written by Yikes, February 15, 2009 23:49:23
This whole situation is tricky and yes i agree this is definitely not the end.
but in my extreme humble opinion ,(don't c4 me if you don't like it)
i think Parti Rakyat shud have a more united front.
I mean they are always bickering amongst each other.
That is just not right.

How am i to believe you can manage a country when you can't even come to
the same conclusion among few hundred in a party?

They have different ideas, different background, different modus operandi.
Yes the goal is the govern Malaysia eventually.
but if you can't agree on which highway you gonna take,
NPE, LDP, Federal, Duke, Kesas, Whtever There is,
how you gonna reach my friend?
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written by gorshan, February 16, 2009 00:27:48
the show aint over till we stuff the fat lady in the tandoori oven smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by Lyon, February 16, 2009 12:03:41
Dear RPK,

That explains it all; after the March elections, the Sultan's decision either way would have caused 'problems'. However, recently, if the Sultan had agreed to the dissolution of the assembly, a clearer picture of what the rakyat really wants could have been demonstrated - at the ballot boxes.

Cheers mate
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written by takbolehtahan, February 17, 2009 18:59:22
ROBERTNGTG, what you said about Najis' govt is true. What he has failed to realize is that the entire world knows that he will be the most hated PM (shortlived of course) of our country, not chosen by the people. Also, he has demonstrated that he is the most unworthy and incompetent person to lead our country; and that everywhere he goes, he will be sniggered upon behind his back. He will go down in our history books as the new PM with the dirtiest of souls.
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written by kedahan63, February 18, 2009 09:10:13
Pete....you sure you're not getting obssessed about fat ladies? smilies/grin.gif smilies/wink.gif Yep, agree with you that Karpal is within his rights to voice out his thoughts and that the resposibility of the debacle should rest squarely on the shoulders of the PK leaders. HRH had to choose the lesser of the two weevils..I mean...evils. BUT I still feel HRH should have given the mandate back to the people to decide. If they, the people, choose the wrong candidates again, then HRH can safely say "Told you so!" without having lawsuits thrown his way. smilies/grin.gif
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