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For Allahâ€™s sake

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Friday, 30 January 2009 12:20

By Jacqueline Ann Surin, The Nut Graph

WHEN the Home Ministry forbids a non-Muslim group from saying "Allah", then attempts to prevent it from publishing in Malay, the government is imposing more than a ban.

In both instances, the Barisan Nasional (BN)-led government is forcefully applying exclusivity for both the pre-Islamic name for the Almighty and the national language. The BN does not seem to see that more inclusive use of "Allah" and the national language are actually opportunities to unite Malaysians.

Divisive fear

What strikes me the most about the government's insistence on restricting the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims is sharp, irrational fear.

Fear that Malay-Muslims in Malaysia may lose their faith and flock instead to other faiths that also have the same name for the Almighty. Fear that perchance, the state has one less area where it can control Malay-Muslim thought and experience about diversity and similarities in different cultures and faiths in Malaysia.

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written by RumahPanjai, January 30, 2009 12:39:04

Looks like the home ministry operates from the toilet end and only spits out shit each time it comes out with a new policy. More appropriate it should be called the Home Jesters Ministry.

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written by DreamLady, January 30, 2009 12:45:28

The home ministry's staff comprises mostly of illerates who bought their paper qualifications in the back streets. These people know next to nothing about Islamic religion, let alone its doctrine, they could not diffentiate between black colour from white, ironically they have a common obsession: MONEY!MONEY!MONEY!!!!

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written by takbolehtahan, January 30, 2009 12:45:49

It looks like somebody's mouth become the rear end ... everytime it opens, sh*t comes out. He should keep it shut forever.

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written by Tompios, January 30, 2009 12:53:42

Why we need to promote Bahasa Kebangsaaan (Bahasa Malaysia) if it is creating danger and conflict among Malaysians?

The only one language that unite all East Malaysians are Malay. If we don't use Bahasa Malaysia in East Malaysia then turmoil might be happened between them. The Easterners Malaysians have more then 30 languages with over 50 sub-languages (dialects) at least.

This stupid Hamid Albarua don't see non Christians spiritual needs. He only interested to speed reaching the make those kafir as 'saudara baru'! Is it some kinds of monopoly marketing?

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written by zam3886, January 30, 2009 13:08:49

I am getting this sense that the government will distort just about anything in whatever ways as long as the end results serve the purpose of keeping them in power. It is worrisome how freakish the sum total of all these reality-bending propaganda may become one day. Another reason why we should consider more capable parties to govern this country.

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written by johntyc, January 30, 2009 13:20:09

I think the word Allah come from ancient Aramaic language. Modern Arabic and Hebrew actually evolve from ancient Aramaic, just like modern Italian, French and Spanish evolve from ancient Latin. So, the word Allah does not belong Muslims exclusively, period.

"I love Allah, I love God", both the same! It's up to me to choose which word I want to use. So when Syed Hamid don't want me to love Allah, it mean he don't want me to love God. How dare him!

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written by Msian Idol3, January 30, 2009 13:50:50

The cult UMNO only worship the Ringgit Allah. I wonder why "Hermit" is so scared of others using the word Allah. I won't be wrong to say Hermit & his goons would want copy rights to the word Allah to make a few more ringgit.

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written by burn22, January 30, 2009 13:51:55

it does not matter who is using it... let god decide!

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written by Sabahfan, January 30, 2009 13:57:46

of course it is more than a ban.they are not playing God

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written by Heaven8402, January 30, 2009 14:16:11

ALLAH must be proud with so many crazy people fighting over HIM or shouldn't HE be proud at all. With the country is in economy downturn right now and it is best that we "fight" for a better future. We all have one brain and for God's or maybe for ALLAH's sake that we use it!!!

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written by NSTPravda, January 30, 2009 14:39:26

Jacqueline, Jacqueline, for Allahâ€™s sake
Do not question the story we are trying to bake
Whereas the faith of some Arabs may be secure
Of UMNO's believers' faith we are somewhat unsure

The objective of Home Minstry is to protect the faithfullâ€™s mind
To keep them all dozily obedient, docile and, hopefully, blind
The Almightyâ€™s name is an UMNO controlled monopoly
Whoever wishes to abuse it requires an official AP

My dear, Jacqueline, Syria is Syria
What has that gotta do with our bolehsia
We have the power to compel you whatever to do
Questioning our prerogative is definitely a taboo

We are entitled to dictate how you should behave
Because we are your masters, you are our slaves
When we dictate that we own â€œAllahâ€ youâ€™d better obey
Contradicting us with your reasons is not semua-nay OK!

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written by Agahdemo, January 30, 2009 14:46:59

Kiasu and Kiasi attitude.....insecurity, not certain about own faith..............

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written by axppin, January 30, 2009 14:53:07

Thank you. Now that you have clarified it Jac, it is time for Malaysia to amend the Rukun Negara; "Kepercayaan kepada Allah, tuhan yang Satu". No need to wait for it to be gazetted. The whole country has finally accepted it judging from the learned comments. The court can now throw out the appeal by Home Ministry. And nullify the imposed ban. Thank you, ya Allah. You are the Greatest!

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written by chanatak, January 30, 2009 14:59:13

UMNO can and will continue to make irrational decisions, spew out foaming hatred stirring statements only because there are enough stupid UMNO malays around. These stupid UMNO malays are easily stirred into banner carrying madmen and slogan shouting zombies. Or maybe they are just UMNO goons paid for the job??

The non UMNO malays however seemed to be ashamed for them. Too bad these people are generally not vocal. If only these will become more vocal and start telling the goons of their own community to shaddup. But real malays are nice people. Only the UMNO malays are raving rioting fools.

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written by PangurBan, January 30, 2009 15:01:04

written by takbolehtahan, January 30, 2009 12:45:49
It looks like somebody's mouth become the rear end ... everytime it opens, sh*t comes out. He should keep it shut forever.
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The sewer has been filling up with filth and rubbish these past 50 years, and now it's all coming back out through the toilet.

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written by Dualties, January 30, 2009 17:36:48

Dr Abdullah Md Zin :

You have an unfounded fear that Muslims will be influenced by the use of ALLAH by other religious practitioners.

It is because you have an ulterior motive of inciting religious hatred amongst the non-Muslim Raykat which actually depicts your considerably lack of understanding of your own religious practice, i.e. you have the least understanding of the virtues of ISLAMIC TEACHINGS.

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written by temenggong, January 30, 2009 17:57:41

They don't believe that 'your god is my god', therefore they believe that the names must be kept different.

In fact they don't believe in much of the rest in the quran too.

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written by Bloodhound, January 30, 2009 18:02:29

Extracted from:
http://thenutgraph.com/for-allahs-sake#comments

focussed08 Posted: 30 Jan 09 : 3.52PM

Shafiq,

I agreed with your comment until the stage where you contradicted yourself by arguing that "... because Allah is the ARABIC word for God ... besides Bahasa Malaysia?"

Your comment above indicated that you too place importance on the usage of the word Allah under the pretense of proper usage of language.

Now, please tell us if the word Allah is an Arabic word? If so, then, surely that word should not have an English language type of spelling (alphabetical). It should only be written in Arabic letterings.

The fact that the word Allah is spelled alphabetically indicates to us that the word is used by other than Arabic-speaking countries and therein lies the fact that the word Allah has been used to identify a "higher being".

Because in Malaysia, the word Allah instead of Tuhan had been widely used over a prolonged period of time, the word Allah is now identified and accepted as describing God.

Whether Tuhan or Allah is the acceptable description of God will always depend on how the community had been exposed to either of the words.

When Arabic ideas, imams or religious leaders are consistently preaching to the locals, they use their version of Tuhan to indicate the description of God - and this happens to be Allah. If those preachers had started off with using the word Tuhan, then, over a same period of indoctrination, most of the people of Malaysia would definitely only use Tuhan to describe God and not Allah..

So, please do not argue the propriety of using any words of any language without understanding the history that had generated the meaning of such words.

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written by Nyabur Gerasi, January 30, 2009 18:45:37

Allah is not God's name, the Jews in the 1st century were not calling that name neither did Jesus, they Him Yahweh, so whats the fuss of using Allah? Wasnt that the good ol book says "for those who called upon the name of Yahweh will be saved"....check the Roman book (use the Hebrew translation), checked up the history dude, cant find the word 'Allah' in the 2nd or 3rd AD.

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written by Milo, January 30, 2009 21:57:13

JUST OUT OF CURISITY: Did God said anywhere in the hadiths or Koran that ONLY MUSLIMS can call him Allah? If no, how did the government come to the conclusion that others cannot use the name Allah?

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written by Tompios, January 30, 2009 22:18:06

Because the Government which govern by UMNO want to use the 'Allah' as their tool to fool the bloodishtfool rakyat.

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written by born2reign, January 30, 2009 23:25:45

Jacqueline, Jacqueline, for Allah's sake! You are blind and gullible.

Home Minister Sh** Botak has only ONE reason for forbidding the use of name Allah for non-Muslims, and it is not because of fear of Muslims converting to Christians.

What is the role of the Home Minister? To CREATE fear and division, and these are the critical factors to rule Malaysians.

This episode of bringing the Catholic organisation to court is to create lots of arguments and dissatisfaction amongst the Muslims and Christians, causing DISUNITY (the objective of BN rule). You keep on pointing out that BN should cultivate unity, but you are not thinking as shrewdly as the serpent (enemy). BN is NOT interested in Unity, and never will.

Same as Kugan's murder, this is such a windfall for BN, because they can cause many dissent and anger amongst the Indian race, and when people are angry they will accuse the other party, and hurl angry words (or write angry blogs) that hurt the other party. A hurt person will usually defend himself by hurting the accuser back, hence a vicious cycle.

The Home Minister wins, earning brownie points with UMNO and BN masters.

And to kill two birds with one stone, we are all distracted with these scandals while the UMNOputeras are siphoning our EPF funds, under our very nose, to their secret dormant companies, the inflation, the recession, the retrenched, the brain drain, the many underskilled and overpaid workforce...

There was a time when the peoples spoke one language and they were very powerful, so much so that God had to make us speak different languages. Imagine if all Malaysians speak can speak BM and English, imagine we were no longer confused, imagine if we know the Truth...

Oh no, our Malaysian govt will do their very best to ensure Malaysians will NEVER BE UNITED. That is the most important role of our govt - to divide and rule. Malaysians must be slaved under the bondage of LIES.

So Jacqueline, think like the serpent even as you go out as a lamb. And stop advising the govt what correct actions they should undertake, it's quite a joke!

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written by Fart Fart Wah, January 31, 2009 02:11:07

"WHEN the Home Ministry forbids a non-Muslim group from saying "Allah", then attempts to prevent it from publishing in Malay, the government is imposing more than a ban."

Sasaran utama Syed AliBaba Botak adalah orang Melayu. Tujuannya bersamaan 40 pencuri yang ada di UMNO BARU ialah untuk mengepong dan mengawal mereka supaya tidak melepaskan diri mereka dari cengkaman kumpulan ini. Orang Melayu disangka dan dipandang cetek pelajaran dan lemah kepercayaan agama Islam. Jadi konon nya mereka perlu dikawal dan dijaga agar mereka tidak menyeleweng dan keluar dari kepercayaan ini. Kesimpulan nya orang Melayu perlu dikandang dan ditarek hidung ..kalau tidak mereka akan mengkafir...
Konon nya kalau kalau perkataan Allah digunakan oleh agama lain..orang Melayu akan dikelamkabutkan,akan jadi mangsa penipuan dan percaya semua agama yang mengguna perkataan Allah adalah saksama dengan Islam. Ini pasti mengakhiri dengan banyak orang Melayu hilang haluan dan mengikut agama2 tersebut membuta tuli.

Pemikiran Botak dan 40 pencuri ini kita tahu kolot..dan bodoh...tetapi ini adalah suatu sandiwara untuk menipu orang Melayu..bahawa mereka ialah wira dan bangsa. Strategi ini untuk membelenggukan orang Melayu,menghalang mereka memikir dan buat pertimbangan sendiri.

Lebih lebih lagi dia cuba memasang perangkap. Dia membesar besarkan perkara ini agar menerima pembangkangan dan penentangan kuat dari gereja Katholik. Tujuan ini untuk membakar perasaan marah dan dengki bagi pembangkang ini. Tindakan yang dia harap ialah tunjuk perasaan cara besar-besaran oleh kaum Melayu..yang diapi-apikannya dan 40 pencuri UMNO BARU.

Dengan kekacaun ini dia ingin mengukuhkan kedudukannya agar boleh memenang pengundian untuk salah satu jawatan ahli UMNO Tertinggi..dan mungkin jadi Timbalan Perdana Menteri bakal..ini lah hasrat tulin nya bagi bulan Mac.

..gila kuasa...terbukti dengan macam adegan baru baru ini.. bagi saya..dia adalah orang UMNO BARU yang terbahaya mengikuti Najis.. Orang Melayu perlu ..berjaga jaga dengan watak mabuk kuasa ini..

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written by Changes, January 31, 2009 08:36:06

Fear that Malay-Muslims in Malaysia may lose their faith? That's a 99.9 passing mark for you.
Let's give in for ALLAH and can we forbid them from using AMEN (AMIN). At least we concquer this word first. Before they say we can't use this word too.

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written by Whatif, January 31, 2009 12:56:38

Dear lokenpal,

I believe the Church has no ulterior motive in using the word Allah. They have been using the word for centuries mainly for the Malay speaking Christians especially in East Malaysia.

On the other hand, the home ministry may have many motives on banning the word. If the ban were to be pushed through, they would then ban all bibles and Christian literature with the word; then they can take action against those uttering the word during worship. The ban is indeed far-reaching and encompassing. Do you see the implications?

The Herald editor was quoted that he would stop using the word for now because he wanted to be accommodating. But the issue is now with the courts and the lawyer has advised to continue using the word until the courts decide otherwise. The reason I believe, is that any party is deemed to be innocent until proven guilty. The Herald has used the word for so many years without problems; so why stop now when ordered by the government? Do you want to be in jail while your case is pending in court?

We are living in a globalised world. Unless we want to be in an exclusive society like Saudi Arabia, we have to consider all aspects, views and scenarios. If you ban the word, how are the East Malaysians and visiting Indonesian and Arab Christians going to practise their faith? If the Arab Christians bring their Arabic bibles into Malaysia, would you allow it or still ban it because of the word?

It is not easy to ban a word. Even copyright and trademark laws have strict procedures to follow. Who has the copyright? Muslims, Christians or the Sikhs? My personal advice is for the home ministry just to issue an advisory to the other parties concerned not to use the word. There should be no compulsion as it is not practical to do so.

Hope good sense will prevail.
Peace.

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written by Qcumber, January 31, 2009 18:36:37

If the Malay are so easily convert to other faiths just by reading the word "Allah", in the books of other religions, Long time Malaysia is no more a Muslim country. Don't you think some flers in some departments in the government are actually insulting the intelligence of the Malays.

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written by Old Man, February 01, 2009 21:46:33

A number of my Malay and/or Muslim friends and relatives do not mind others using the word Allah. If fact they were proud that we know the word Allah. Only the incestous PM with Islam Hadhari forbid others to call out to Allah whenever we seek justice from his nonsense! smilies/cool.gif

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written by sang0kancil, February 02, 2009 07:23:14

Saya agak malu dengan cara penulisan komen oleh segelintir rakyat Malaysia di dalam forum Akbar onlibe â€œMalaysia Todayâ€.

Isu penggunaan â€œAllahâ€ dalam warkah terbitan Kristian ini amatlah memerlukan kita semua untuk berfikir kritikal. Bukannya dengan melemparkan perkataan â€œbodohâ€ dan sebagainya kepada kumpulan parti yang bertentangan pendapat.

Bagi penganut-penganut Islam, saya menghormati keputusan anda. Jika keputusan itu adalah yang terbaik untuk mereka, maka kita sebagai penganut-penganut Kristian (tanpa mengira mazhad/sekolah pemikiran) hendaklah menerima yang telah berlaku. Dunia tidak akan Kiamat biarpun Kristian dilarang menggunakan perkataan Allah!

Saya sudahi pendapat dengan sebuah lagu pujian Tuhan bebahasa Iban yang bertajuk:-

No. 33 Kudus, Kudus, Kudus.

Kudus, kudus, kudus, Allah ke tinggi,
Kami tiap har muji Nuan tumu;
Kudus, kudus, kudus, ke pemadua kasih,
Apai, Anak, Roh ke endang satu.

Kudus, kudus, kudus, talok samo-a,
Bebasa lalu pantun ka muji Tuhan;
Bala serga sampal tundok lalu nyembah,
Muji Tuhan ke endang satu.

Kudus, kudus, kudus, ini alah lindong,
Utang orang jai nya meda Allah;
Amai Nuan kudus, nadai baka Nuan,
Pemadu kasih, pemadu kuasa.

Kudus, kudus, kudus, Allah ke tinggi,
Di langit, tasik. Dunya sampal ke muji;
Kudus,kudus, kudus, pengasih, pengrindu,
Apai., Anak, Roh ke endang satu.

Amin

â€¢ciptaan Reginal Heber (USA), disalin L.D. Mamora (Iban), Bup Sembiang Enggau Pantun Aum Betaun Iban Sarawak (Chelak ke empat kali September 2001).

â€¢Note;- take note of the existence of the Sanskrit letterings in Iban Language. Such as Dunya, Kasih, etc.

â€¢Jika penganut Kristian ingin penggunaan perkataan â€˜Allahâ€™ kekal; taipkan lagu pujian atau sserangkap ayat-ayat Bible dalam bahasa anda terutama bahasa Native Sarawak, orang Asli dan Sabahan ke dalam Malaysia Today or your blog bagi memberi Impak bahawa â€˜Allahâ€™ itu bukan sekadar perkataan malahan pembimbing dalam doa harian anda!
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