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PKR is having a Chinese New Year gathering at the Hokkien Association in Kelang from 1.00pm to 3.00pm tomorrow (Monday). I will be going there wearing my Anti-ISA T-shirt. I invite the rest of you to join me and do the same.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

PAS to protest against Rihanna concert said The Star today (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/1/25/nation/3116247&sec=nation).

I know many of you are going to get your knickers all twisted about this. After all, you are upholders of freedom of thought, expression, assembly, association, and so on. So why is PAS, you are going to ask, not respectful towards these freedoms?

Okay, you may not agree with PAS demonstrating its opposition to ‘sexy’ concerts. I too share your view. I think this is so, so petty when we have bigger fishes to fry. It’s not like we already have a perfect society. There is much to do and many more important issues that need resolving. We really must get our priorities right here.

Nevertheless, I will not take PAS to task on their opposition to ‘sexy’ concerts. It is definitely their right to oppose anything they want to oppose. Freedom of thought, expression, assembly, association, etc., is as much the right of PAS as it is ours. So they have every right to oppose ‘sexy’ concerts -- as it is our right to disagree with their opposition to it. That is what a civil society is all about: agreeing to disagree. If we can respect PAS’s right to oppose anything they view as ‘decadent’ and ‘immoral’, then we can demand that PAS also respect our views, although they need not agree with them. If we don’t respect PAS’s views then we certainly can’t demand the same from them.

So carry on opposing, PAS. I have no problems with that. What I want is only for you to set your priorities. Concerts are not the end of the world. It is far from the ‘Big One’. There are many other issues that also need addressing and ‘sexy’ concerts are way at the bottom of the priority list.

What I want PAS to address is the issue of the Internal Security Act. Read the following to recap on what I am talking about:

5 state govts back call to free ISA detainees, Guan Eng tells Makkal Sakthi crowd

http://anilnetto.com/civil-society/5-state-govts-back-call-for-isa-detainees-release-guan-eng-tells-makkal-sakthi-crowd/

Marina Lee receives a standing ovation

http://anilnetto.com/civil-society/marina-gets-a-standing-ovation/

Tomorrow, I shall be speaking to Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to ask him to coordinate a five-state Anti-ISA Campaign. I want to see the five Pakatan Rakyat state governments putting their money where their mouths are. About 200 people have religiously participated in Anti-ISA Candlelight Vigils every Sunday since I was detained on 12 September 2008. Even when I was released on 7 November 2008 the vigils continued and a few days ago 21 people were charged for the crime of ‘illegal assembly’. These 21 were detained at the 9 November 2008 Candlelight Vigil, two days after I was released.

Incidentally, the bail for each of the 21 was RM1,500 and ten of them did not have the money to post bail. So I arranged to pay for their bail. The RM15,000 came from the money that was collected when I was sent to the Sungai Buloh Prison for three days in 2008. My own bail on the four charges that I face comes to RM7,000; so, thus far, we have spent RM22,000. We still have a balance of RM26,000, which will be used for future cases in the event there are further arrests.

Anyway, I am of the opinion we have achieved the objective of those Candlelight Vigils and maybe we need a change of strategy to get our message through to more people. After all, if we just hold the vigils in a dark car park in front of the PJ Civic Centre, only the 200 or so participants will be informed about the issue. What about the rest of the 26 million Malaysians? They too need to be exposed to the issue and the Candlelight Vigils are not achieving this.

What I want is for the five Pakatan Rakyat state governments to also join the Anti-ISA Campaign. They can do this by erecting a few signboards along the state roads just like how they do in Perak and Kelantan (like the ones that say’ Sembahyanglah sebelum kamu disembahyangkan’).

The signboards can read: ISA bertentangan dengan Islam, Islam opposes the ISA, Say NO to ISA, etc.). This will be the five state governments’ contribution to the Anti-ISA Campaign and in this way more Malaysians will get the message than what 200 people in a Candlelight Vigil can achieve.

PKR is having a Chinese New Year gathering at the Hokkien Association in Kelang from 1.00pm to 3.00pm tomorrow (Monday). I will be going there wearing my Anti-ISA T-shirt. I invite the rest of you to join me and do the same. We shall then ‘corner’ Anwar and get him to commit the five state governments to this second-level Anti-ISA Campaign. If they refuse then we will know that Pakatan Rakyat is merely paying lip service to the issue. We want them to put their money where their mouth is. There are no two ways about this.

Join me tomorrow and let’s hear what Anwar has to say about this matter. And it had better be what we want to hear. And after PAS has done with the ‘anti-sexy concert’ demonstration, maybe they can then start pressuring the five Pakatan Rakyat state governments, which they are also a part of, to do more for the Anti-ISA Campaign other than just talk.

Majlis Perayaan Tahun Baru Cina KeADILan (26 Jan) 

 

 

《毫不留情》民联,是实际行动的时候了

今天的星报报导说‘回教党抗议举行Rihanna演唱会’。 (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/1/25/nation/3116247&sec=nation)

我知道你们很多人会对此懊恼不已。你们毕竟是思想、言论、集会、结社等自由的捍卫者。所以你们会问,为何是回教党不尊敬这些自由呢?

好吧,你也许不同意回教党表达他们对这些‘性感’演唱会的不满。我也有同样看法。我觉得这只不过是很琐碎的事情,而我们还有更大的事要做呢。这不是说我们已经有一个很完美的社会。还有很多要做的事,也有很多重要的课题要解决。我们必须要搞清楚事情的优先前后。

尽管如此,我不会因此责备回教党。他们有绝对的权力去抗议任何事情。思想、言论、集会、结社等自由,是我们的权力,也是回教党的权力。所以他们有绝对的权力去抗议‘性感’演唱会 – 就如我们有绝对的权力不同意他们的看法一样。那才是一个公民社会∶异见同存。若我们能够尊敬回教党抗议他们认为是‘堕落’和‘不道德’的权力,那我们才能要求回教党尊敬我们的看法,即使他们是不同意的。若我们不尊敬回教党的看法,那我们就不能要求他们做出同样的事情。

所以,回教党就继续抗议吧。对我而言是没问题的。我只不过要你们定下你们的优先前后。演唱会并不是世界末日。这比起‘The Big One’还很遥远。还有很多其它的课题需要处理,而‘性感’演唱会是排在优先列单的最下面。

我要回教党处理的是内安法令课题。读一读以下的文章,温故一下我所说的到底是什么:

冠英告诉人民力量群众,五州政府支持释放内安法令扣留犯的呼吁

http://anilnetto.com/civil-society/5-state-govts-back-call-for-isa-detainees-release-guan-eng-tells-makkal-sakthi-crowd/ 


马丽娜李受到起立鼓掌欢迎

http://anilnetto.com/civil-society/marina-gets-a-standing-ovation/ 


明天,我将会和拿督斯里安华见面,要求他带动一个五州反内安法令运动。我要看到民联五州兑现诺言。自从我在2008年9月12日被扣留以来,共有200人在每个星期天都风雨不改得参加了反内安法令烛光会。即使我在2008年11月7日被释放之后,烛光会还是继续举行。几天前,共有21名人士被控‘非法聚会 ’之罪。这21个人在2008年11月9日被扣留。也就是我被释放后两天。
顺带一提的是,这21人,每人的保释金马币1500元。其中十人没有能力缴付保释金。所以我就为他们安排缴付有关保释金。这马币15,000元是来自大家的筹款,是我当时在2008年被送进双溪毛糯监狱的三天筹到的。我所面对的四项控状的保释金共是马币7,000元。因此我们共用了马币22,000元。我们还剩下马币26,000元。这些钱将会用在往后的同类事项。

无论如何,我觉得我们的烛光会已达到其目标。或许我们应该换一换策略来传达我们的讯息给更多的人知道。毕竟,若我们只在八打灵公民中心前面的漆黑停车场拿蜡烛的话,只有约200名参与者能够收到讯息。那么其它的2千6百万马来西亚人呢? 他们也需要接触了解有关课题,而烛光会则办不到这点。

我所要的是民联五州政府也参与反内安法令的运动。他们可以在州内道路设立告示牌,就像他们在霹雳及吉兰丹所作那样(就像那些写着‘在您未成为被祈祷的对象前,祈祷吧’的告示牌)。

告示牌可以写着: 内安法令违反回教,回教反对内安法令,对内安法令说不,等等的。这将是五州政府对反内安法令运动的贡献。这样一来,更多的马来西亚人会收到讯息,比200人的烛光会还有效。

公正党将在巴生福建会馆举行华人新年聚会。时间是明天(星期一)下午一时正至三时正。我会穿者我的反内安法令T恤出席。我邀请大家随我一起做同样的事。我们然后把安华迫至一隅,要他承诺促使五州政府参与这第二波的反内安法令运动。若他们拒绝,那我们就知道民联对这课题只是空谈不做而已。我们要他们做出实际的行动。除此之外,别无他法。

大家明天就跟着我去吧。去听听安华会怎么回应。最好是我们所要听到的。回教党在忙完他们的‘反性感演唱会’示威后,应该可以开始向民联五州政府施压了。他们也是民联五州政府的一部分,更不应该空谈不做了。



Translated by ecs283 http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/09/61909.html

Edited by Pratamad https://airkosong.com/_/

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written by ahmadneil, January 25, 2009 13:22:51
I will be there with 2 T shirts,one is 'No to ISA' and the other one is'I'm with RPK.'
And to all my chinese brothers,'Kong Hee Fatt Choi' and take care one the road if you are going back to your hometown.
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written by lawa88, January 25, 2009 13:29:23
Allah panjangkan umur penentang ISA
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written by lawa88, January 25, 2009 13:30:06
Allah hapuskan penyokong ISA
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written by ahmadneil, January 25, 2009 13:31:53
And that 'Iron Lady' stole the show! We need strong willed lady like Marina!God bless her and hope that we can all stand together, shoulder to shoulder ,and fight this together.
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written by ahmadneil, January 25, 2009 13:43:56
Anwar must speak with a strong voice on abolishing ISA.Yes,we will try to upgrade out fight.
We must also print stickers so that cars can have this stickers on.
Make scarf with ISA logo been canceled.
Cap bearing 'NO to ISA' logo .

We have to make more souvenirs becos in this way there will be funds for this campaign and the supporters can be seen physically showing their support.I will be more than happy to help to sell these items and all those who want to participate in this fight can help to sell this souvenirs.
We must bring this fight in a more effective ways and beyond the reach of those police.
Earnestly looking forward to this!
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written by onnetline, January 25, 2009 13:45:31
RPK,

Well said. DSAI ..... your call now !
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written by ahmadneil, January 25, 2009 13:55:23
RPK,
I really feel the need to highlight this fight to abolish ISA in a more effective ways.Call a meeting for those who want to join and lets hammered out some details of 'dos and don't'.Manage it like a organisation like Red Cross or 'Save the Children'.In this way we can chart out the course we want to take and how the supporters can participate in this fight.We will have a clear and effective vision.Our goal will be clearer and the police will find it hard to charge us.In this way more will join and all will have more confidence .
Let do it,RPK!
Remember with the sales of souvenirs,we can be self sufficient.If more funds are needed then we will source for it.You will be our adviser and our leader.What say you!
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written by Super Admin, January 25, 2009 14:25:10
ahmadneil, see you tomorrow in Kelang. We can talk there.
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written by anakwatanKL, January 25, 2009 14:41:54
RPK, thanx for the info.

Wishing all Malaysian Chinese brothers and sisters, "GONG XI FA CHAI".
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written by sampalee, January 25, 2009 14:43:14
I can understand the frustration of RPK for the Rakyats.In the sincere believe that PR will be somewhat different from umno-bn,lies encouraging hopes.But in reality all politicians are pretenders[munafiq]and do what they are good at pretending.First they will promise you changes,then they will give excuses that they are helpless unless the rakyat gave them Federal government.Sound very much like the proverbial arab camel.With wisdom the Five states can give federal govt hell and not just the other way round.Afterall all is Fair in love and war.Except for Pas in kelantan,the others have not done much,but talk hell of alot.
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written by ahmadneil, January 25, 2009 14:47:48
Admin,
sorry,back in Johor already to join my wife's family for their CNY.Post the meeting and will try to catch up.Count me in!Thanks!
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written by justice, January 25, 2009 14:50:36
Dear RPK,
I'll be there too, see you tomorrow!

"GONG XI FA CHAI" from Pakatan Rakyat:
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written by mikewang, January 25, 2009 14:54:44
Dear YM,

It's a damn good idea to get the 5 PR governments to show support to the anti-ISA effort by erecting billboard reminders.

Thank you !
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written by KingSolomon, January 25, 2009 14:56:26
Anwar will be a fool not to ride on the waves of public anger and disgust with the ISA. ISA must be abolish now!! Kong Hee Fatt Choy, RPK and Marina.
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written by KingSolomon, January 25, 2009 15:03:17
Hi Justice, which handsome or pretty face in the photo is yours? Kong Hee Fatt Choy to all of you!!
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written by Raja Chulan, January 25, 2009 15:26:46
Let us start a Campaign to raise funds to erect signs in all Pakatan States. I am prepared to put money where my mouth is to help in the financing of these signs in cash strapped States. I am sure many of us a willing to do our part.

Over to you Pete
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written by Apache3, January 25, 2009 15:44:22
YM RPK you are right in saying that the 5 Pakatan Ruled states should get involved in this ABOLISH ISA Campaign with PAS taking part without conditions. It would be nice to see what happens then.

To all my Malaysian Chinese brothers and sisters where ever you may be "GONG XI FA CHAI" and GOD bless you all.
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written by temenggong, January 25, 2009 15:51:33
State sponsored mega signboards is the way to go.

Gong Xi Fa Cai to all our chinese brothers and sisters!

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written by MikeChen, January 25, 2009 15:56:59
There is a call not to forget Paula Khoo of Penang. Please show solidarity with her and her vigil against ISA
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written by singam, January 25, 2009 15:57:40
Pete, brilliant move. It's about time the PR showed the rakyat that they truly represent the rakyat. There are a number of things that need to get done. But while they only control state governments, they can openly declare their support for something the people are calling in unison for.

After they take over the federal government, we can look at the bigger fish that urgently need frying.
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written by axppin, January 25, 2009 16:08:25
Janji aaah?!! Please get a clear and precise commitment. Thanks.
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written by R020998, January 25, 2009 16:34:18
I wish all MT readers who are celebrating the Lunar Calendar GONG XI FA CHAI
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written by No nonsense, January 25, 2009 17:10:59
What do you mean deliver? Take over is a better word. Long Live PR.
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written by BennyG, January 25, 2009 17:17:19
Gong Xi Fa Cai.

Excellent start for the New Year tomorrow. Show us the Pakatan Rakyat commitment. Speak out now before there is none left to speak up.
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written by rpremkumar2u, January 25, 2009 17:24:03
I am gonna be there Pete. Just to meet my idols and to breathe the same air of freedom.
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written by raven1958, January 25, 2009 18:32:22
KLang..should be made the power quarters of the PR.......money should start flowing to Klang instead of Shah Alam......
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written by densemy, January 25, 2009 18:32:35
I dont know why Malaysians get their knickers in a knot over the ridiculous comments which come from the mind of PAS

Malaysians of all races are obsessed with control, discipline and repression. So if it wasnt PAS it would be MCA or MIC or UMNO screaming for blood.

As a country your have the mental outlook of "if you dont do it my way you dont do it at all". That has ensured that your national outlook is deeply embedded somewhere between 1400 and 5000 years ago

Its no wonder you have the government you deserve
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written by bengali kunday, January 25, 2009 18:52:02
if you insist on wearing anti ISA t-shirt, wouldn't this antagonise the Pro ISA population of the country.

Kong hi fat choi to all malaysians.
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written by Debbie, January 25, 2009 19:21:43
Klang oh Klang anybody wanna send a jet over to get me there in time for lunch?
May everything move smoothly during this CNY. It is also Australia day. May God pour his wisdom over those who really need it.
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written by cahaya, January 25, 2009 20:34:42
RPK, you are indeed very passionate about anti-ISA campaign. And the vast majority of Malaysians are with you against ISA. However we cannot understand your impatience for Pakatan Rakyat to deliver.

We are puzzled by your idea to gate-crash at a festive celebration (hosted by PKR on Monday) in order to “corner Anwar”. Why are you in such a hurry? Why not arrange another appointment with DSAI, so both can sit down and discuss your good ideas with him (proposal that DSAI coordinate a five-state Anti-ISA Campaign, etc.), say on Tuesday or later this week? Why disrupt a festive event on Monday?

Your high priority on ISA is commendable, but you may have chosen the wrong method and wrong place. Perhaps you should show more respect to a highly regarded Malaysian leader, and show better manners to Malaysians who are celebrating the new lunar year with fellow Malaysians. Behaving like a bull is certainly not the way to welcome the year of the Ox.
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written by confuseus, January 25, 2009 20:41:02
Sorry, i mean " Let this be another test for PR"
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written by ksmaniam, January 25, 2009 20:46:52
I disagree on a small point RPK.
I feel that DSAI need not be cornered to agree on the anti-isa, I feel your whisper is sufficient. Corner him to form the govt. before march please.
my request.
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written by Rozlan, January 25, 2009 21:02:59
RPK,
I agreed with you.However I support PAS move but it can wait lah.Why? They should asked themselves did their children still listen to the rock,pop,heavy metal song? I believes most of them did.If their own children keep on listening to those song then they should concentrate on their family first.PAS should do is to educate the society first.Let their faith and understanding of Islam become firm first.Alchohol and tutup aurat laws came later during Prophet Muhammad SAW rule in Madinah.
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written by LucidMind, January 25, 2009 22:14:01
I'd say RPK is Malaysia's very own Obama or Ralph Nader, don't you agree? unlike them however, he's not standing for election, which is a good thing May the force be with you
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written by Wakeupmsia, January 26, 2009 01:54:15
Bro Pete, that's a brilliant move. I hope these five States do it. Yes, we will be there. Can take photo with you/Marina or not?
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written by needchg, January 26, 2009 01:57:13
Dear RPK, I am in Penang for the CNY till Wed; otherwise I will join you for sure.Damn good idea from you. Let see whether PR is is tune with us. Besides the 200 or so vigil attendees, lets gauge who are the ball-less remaining 26 million "malaysians".
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written by onnetline, January 26, 2009 02:49:33
CNY Greetings ........... May the OX year brings a bull run of joy, good health and prosperity to fellow Malaysians !!!!!
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written by talk2stop, January 26, 2009 07:32:55
I don't support ISA or against ISA. I can't see anything wrong with ISA. What I definitely can see is that ISA is abused. To me, it is the person that invoke ISA that needs educating not ISA itself which comes later. You remove ISA you don't remove the threat. You educate them (the authority) you remove all threats not just ISA.
I think ISA will be replaced with a more environment friendly act name.
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written by Raja Petra, January 26, 2009 08:25:54
talk2stop, your thoughts on the ISA apply to Hudud as well. I am glad you feel that way. Now replace 'ISA' with 'Hudud' in your statement below:

I don't support Hudud or against Hudud. I can't see anything wrong with Hudud. What I definitely can see is that Hudud is abused. To me, it is the person that invoke Hudud that needs educating not Hudud itself which comes later. You remove Hudud you don't remove the threat. You educate them (the authority) you remove all threats not just Hudud.
I think Hudud will be replaced with a more environment friendly act name.
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written by tmf, January 26, 2009 09:40:48
I was given some Anti ISA car stickers issued by SUARAM, many years ago. Whenever I changed car, I have been careful to shift the sticker too.

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written by Kopi37, January 26, 2009 11:17:55
Yes, I agree to RPK's call, if not ultimatum, to PR to get down to works and no more political histrionics! No more those goons who behave like Umno goons blocking every opinions and comments in the cyber news media, those not in favour of PR! What difference does PR has with Umno when they behaved the same stuck-up goons?! Like thugs?!

The water can float a boat, it can also sink it! If PR is not sincere to serve the rakyat as what they propagated, we will reconsider our votes to the devil which has no difference in performance but with more authority, since the chance of change is vague! Four years is what PR has to prove themselves the King or the beast, no more no less!
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written by Joe, January 26, 2009 11:22:54
Can the Pakatan states set up their very own Television Stations?
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written by yapsir, January 26, 2009 12:29:17
first justice for all anti-isa vigils Heroes.
second to all Malaysian,恭贺新喜 !
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written by DamnPekcek, January 26, 2009 23:30:02
Though i support the PR, but i think they should have done more, to fulfill their promises in the last GE, etc make the MPs & state-assemblyman to post their own financial status/properties to public, before and after each election.


Stop fighting among yourself,put your head down and work hard .. Like 'ox' !
We, the rakyat, shall expect you to lead the way!
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written by agneskhaw, January 28, 2009 22:04:29
YM RPK, I hope you did meet up with Anwar to discuss issues at hand. Looking forward to positive results. We have been waiting for too long.
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