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Monday, 05 January 2009 08:44

By Naragan 

At the outset, I would like to say that even though I offer different opinions than our erstwhile Mr. Kim Quek, I am myself a strong proponent of regime change in our country. There are significant assumptions in Mr.Kim Quek's arguments that need to be dealt with. The conclusions may be the same, but the assumptions are vastly different.

In Kim Quek’s words - Let us start our deliberation by first asking this question: Has there been a government policy to deliberately marginalize the Indian community? You say no.

Take this case – a young girl has no birth certificate through no fault of hers and gets all As in her UPSR, something she was able to attain because of some sympathetic Headmaster in one of the Tamil primary schools. She is refused admission to secondary school. Denying any human being a right to basic education is the denial of a very fundamental right in any century, in any country, let alone in the 21st century and in this up and coming Malaysia.

Mr. Kim Quek, I ask you, is this act of denying this little girl her fundamental right acceptable even in the least, because it is not deliberate policy?

Even then, if this were an isolated case, I could agree with you, that we can overlook it because it was one of those inadvertent occurrences. But if this multiplies time and time again in many similar situations where the Government bureaucracy systematically looks for opportunities to deny the poor Indians a chance to a citizen’s basic human right, is that still to be considered not deliberate policy?

The bureaucracy is an extension of UMNO, brought into existence in its present form so that the state policy of apartheid-like discrimination can be systematically applied. This is well known. Is that not deliberate policy but just the working of an incompetent and corrupt bureaucracy? Politicians will have us believe that; it is so convenient an argument. Why, Mr.Kim Quek, are you using the same argument?

Mr. Kim Quek, you are going to come running back and say, “Oh no, that is not what I meant. What I meant was that there was no deliberate policy on the part of the government to marginalize just the Indians”. Well, Mr. Kim Quek, I say to you, when the hill slopes of Bukit Antarabangsa slid down the other day, that was not because of a deliberate policy. But does it matter … the people have lost their homes. Afterwards it is academic whether it was deliberate policy or otherwise, the problem happened because the system worked to make that problem happen - the system that was deliberately created.

Likewise when there is such a large problem simmering with the marginalization of the Indians, and for so long and continues in spite of such loud feedbacks, can you still say it is not deliberate. When the powers that be continue to turn a deaf ear to the problem and provide lip service at best after all that has happened. Mr. Kim Quek, is that still not deliberate? I can only conclude from all of this that it is not that you have not understood it in this manner, you just prefer to see it the way you do. Mr.Kim Quek, this is where your underlying assumptions are exposed.

The Indians in this country have to be spoken to and not spoken with, is an implicit assumption that you make – maybe it is so commonplace for the likes of you, that you may not even recognize that you are doing it. You do not really have the facts of the working class Indians’ daily life, nor do you care, as I understand from your treatment of the issue.  For you, the Indian is needed only for his vote, and loss of it will mean rocking of the boat that is headed for change and which is going to benefit the likes of you, not the marginalized Indians themselves whom you seem to be speaking up for. So, you say the same things that have been told to the Indians for the last fifty years – be patient.

I say rubbish to all of that; time is not the issue here. Come 5 years from now, I do not see a substantial change happening, given the present drift. The issue here is the lack of will. Plain and simple – lack of will to do the things that are necessary to change the state of affairs.

There are so many things that a State government can do on a priority basis for the most marginalized. We cannot change the bureaucrats, but we can start setting up watchdog citizen committees to watch over the shoulders of the bureaucrats. We can start becoming more transparent on more issues, especially where it relates to the poor and the marginalized. State land can be more productively used by distributing it to the poor. Special scholarship schemes can be setup to pull in all the underemployed or currently unemployable youths in the 18 -25 category and places allocated to them in skills training institution, or special institutions be set up for this purpose, single mothers to be identified and treated on priority basis.

But nothing like this is happening. Only excuses are being given for maintaining the status quo. Nor do I see meaningful discussions going on. But then, it is always the numbers game after the elections. Marginalized Indians are too small a group to give priority to. What will the others say?

Mr. Kim Quek, I do not understand how you can suddenly become an apologist for the perpetrators of this regime on this issue. If you are the parent of that little Indian lass maybe you will understand. But you are not and never can be. The least you can do is not masquerade.

You insult our intelligence when you say stupid things like” What is the solution to the Indian predicament then? Would it help by giving a few more government posts or contracts to Indians by a state government? While that will make a few Indians happy, it would not alleviate the prevailing poverty of Indians, who number almost two million.”

You think this is rocket science that you are revealing here. You are not able to differentiate the symbols of the problem from the real problem. So, what is being done for the two million marginalized Indians now – you tell me, Mr.Kim Quek. Every time, this is the same stupid argument.  But nothing seems to be happening for the very poor people referred to in that argument. It is all just too convenient.

Then Mr.Kim Quek, you say “Under the circumstances, the best bet for marginalized Indians, and in fact for all Malaysians, is to work for the speedy realization of a Pakatan federal government, which will bring healing and genuine nation-building to the country.”  I tell you, Mr.Kim Quek you make a faulty assumption here – the Federal Government of the Pakatan will only be speedily and robustly realized when the poor and marginalized are truly taken care of now. Their vote is not given in the afterworld. It will be given for the here and now.

So, Mr. Kim Quek, please review your assumptions because we are all not going to get very far with your current assumptions – progressive as it may seem. We want not just a change to the names of the parties that are in power. We want true change. Not promises of change – but change that we all can feel and appreciate.

Viva la Makkal.

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written by ahmadneil, January 05, 2009 09:10:37
Mr Kim,
In malaysia,the best and the poorest are all been sidelined by the gov't.Just go to the education dept and see for yourself how many clever students with all the 'As' ,can't even get JPA scholarships.Even begging have failed!Go to the rural areas and see for yourself how the hardcore poor are been left at the mercy of harsh environment.If you have doubt,then I will tell you where to go,go to Sabah and Sarawak.If you say that I'm bluffing,then I promise to leave MT and shut my mouth for the rest of my life. Can't you see we have two sets of rules in malaysia!Everyone knows this except you!Wake up,Kim!This is 2009 already.
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written by karyeowl, January 05, 2009 09:36:08
Dear ahmadneil

I totally agreed what you have said. Yet our so-called DPM wants to help all Malays from all over the world. Why doesn't he put his heart to uplift the living standards of our own Bangsa Malaysia? his heart is also eying at IJN, where sits the pot of gold.

Go sign the petition on Najib.
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written by ahmadneil, January 05, 2009 09:44:27
The rural poor have been over looked and marginalized in ways that undermine their hopes for the future and their capacity to realize their own dreams.Shame on this corrupted gov't,for they are only interested in their pockets ,not the poor's stomach.
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written by temenggong, January 05, 2009 10:59:09
Except for the granting of land titles to the TOL and squatters in Perak new villages, the other state govts have not yet done anything substantial to eradicate the marginalisation.

It may come as a surprise but most of the marginalisation issues the rakyat are looking at are state matters rather than federal matters. Federal matters such as removal of the ISA, OSA, separation of organs or power, freedom to assemble, etc are not the issues the marginalised rakyat are looking at. For instance there has been no appreciable replacement of the the NEP policies in the 5 state govts. We don't see it. Let us have the statistics if otherwise.
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written by Shiva, January 05, 2009 11:39:00
naragan, i do agree and support your view here.
it is true that the government policy has been to give hand-outs to a few and then give publicity that we do take care of the community. this marginalization happens and will continue to happen as long as M!C is there.
basically its not samy velu along that is not relevent, its the whole bunch that is not relevent. to date - i have not seen any voice from the so-called young brigade in M!C like soup-nathan, lord-mani etc. One wonders what are these guys doing for the malaysian community.
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written by savemalaysia, January 05, 2009 11:51:38
Well said Naragan but to cut a story short and to put the perspective realistically, changes in this country will be slow even if a new govt takes over. It's not just about changing UMNO and BN politicians from the political landscape, it's the huge and thick bureaucracy of the civil service that is the bottleneck.

Just look at the lethargy and comfort zone of the civil service left over by the previous BN govt in the PR-ruled States. DAP, PAS and PKR are proposing and implementing new changes but they slow down virtually to snails' pace when these things get down to the civil servants who once were pampered and spoilt by the BN govt. Like it or not, a change in mind-set for this country may take at least two general elections or even three although I prefer it to come in less than 5 years.
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written by Democrats, January 05, 2009 12:12:28
While I agree that many Indians are marginalize, there are also many many poor Malays and Chinese as well. We should make an nationwide program in improving the livelihood of all poor citizens, regardless of race, religion or political inclination.

Malaysia is a rich country in natural resources and talent and geographical and climatic advantage. If we can eliminate corruption and "leakages" within the system, trust me, we would have eliminated 99.99% hardcore poor folks by today.
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written by fletcher, January 05, 2009 12:57:54
The will of change have to come from the top,then the rakyat will knows that the goverment means business. At present I dont see any major changes to the federal goverment, the how you expect the goverment servants to change. The goverment servants will say they only accepted Rm50 but the politicians in millons. Althought corruption is the problems of every countries but if the leaders we elect look clean and hear clean, then there will hope for the country.As for the rakyat we should not be stupid to accept scandal free leaders, then only the country can progress.We rakyat should be wise enought to create uncertainty and competition to the politician, then only they will work hards for the people. Dont believe their slogans of malay and other unity. It should be malaysian unity.
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written by exzonerator, January 05, 2009 12:59:01
There are rich Malays, Chinese and Indians and then there are the poor. It is not just a race struggle, more of a class struggle.
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written by kasee61, January 05, 2009 19:01:34
(Comment provided by Kim Quek)
To Mr. Naragan and other commentators,

1. I agree with the view that the UMNO dominated bureaucracy under its political masters have been administrating this country with racial and religious bias, resulting in considerable injustice being inflicted upon non-Malays and non-Muslims. Apart from the examples given by Mr. Naragan and others, thousands of non-Muslim citizens in Sabah have been denied citizenship status due to not having birth certificates or having lost their blue IC, as exemplified by the recent case of an old Sino-Kadazan lady in Sabah who was denied replacement of her lost blue IC. In fact, I have said in my article that all races in Malaysia other than the Umnoputras have fallen victim to UMNO/BN’s corrupt, racist and elitist rule. My statement "Indians had not been singled out for marginalisation" remains true, as other races have also suffered discrimination..

2. Regarding comments that PR state governments could have done more for the poor such as giving out land, scholarships, youth training etc, I think these are all being done - irrespective of race - within their limited financial capacities, such as land titles being given out in Perak, limited free water in Selangor and Penang, financial assistance to tertiary educational students and for families suffering their lost ones etc in Selangor, just to mention a few. One must not forget that the incomes of state governments are negligible compared to those of the federal government. As an example (as pointed out in my article), Selangor state government’s budget is not even 1% of the federal budget.

3. One reader “Temenggong”commented that “marginalization issues are state matters, rather than federal matters such as removal of ISA, OSA, separation of power, freedom to assemble, etc which are not the issues marginalised rakyat are looking at.” I beg to differ. Those issues such as ISA, OSA etc mentioned by Temenggong actual fall mainly under one ministry, which is home affairs. Besides that, there are 31 other ministries. The numerous problems complained by readers cannot possibly be solved without changing the political ideology and fundamental policy of the federal governing party. What the PR state governments can do is only to mitigate the harshness of the unjust federal rule.

Kim Quek
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written by Futurist, January 05, 2009 21:28:44
To the Govt's of all the 4 states, set policies to eradicate poverty in your respective states and crack the whip in the implementation process. There is always a begining for everything. If you do not do these, it goes to show that you are only interested in sitting in your posts rather than implementing the election manifestos that had been promised. Do not dissappoint the voters who gave you the opportunity to be the govt.
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written by temenggong, January 05, 2009 22:50:07
I thank you for the elucidation Kim Quek. Now we are having real interaction.
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written by Richfyf, January 06, 2009 02:30:52
Sorry Mr Naragan I think its not the Indian that have been marginalized, The whole country have been marginalized by UMNO, ask the chinese if they feel that they have not been marginalized... ask the Kadazan and Iban, ask the Malays in kelantan, in fact ask anyone who is not an UMNOputra if the feel that they have not been marginalized. In order for every citizen to have their basic fundmental right protected we just got to work together and get UMNO out of Putra Jaya, UMNO is just plain evil, they even marginalized malays if they malay dont sopport UMNO, we can see that clearly of what happpen to DSAI and Zaid Ibrhim and RPK,heck they are malay, so lets not talk about UMNO being racist, they are just plain EVIL, if we raise the issue of race then there will be racial conflict, If we want to "hantam" Umno the evil political party we must not Hantam Malay as not all malay support UMNO
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written by bn haramjadah, January 10, 2009 01:35:07
I ask the Indians of Malaysia, This is not an insult or anything of the sort, Since it is hard to distinguish an indian malaylee, keralan, tamil naidun, lets just compare in general, LETS compare the situation of the Inidian tamil spekers against the sikhs, Why is it the sikhs are so much futher in front than the tamilians, Is it because of culture, work ethics, relegion, education, what? are they more intelligent? do they get extras from somewhere? they don't even have a political party, though in the begining, if you look at the history of MIC, They were among the founding members. Why did they leave, WHY HAVE THE TAMIL SPEAKING indians in Malaysia remained backward while the sikhs have progressed so far ahead, not to say the sikhs are on par with the chinese but why is it.? IS IT BECAUSE OF MIC, AND ITS BAND OF ROBBERS WHO HAVE PLAYED THE umno game to keep the indians stupid and uneducated. look at one-self before crying that you are being marginalised, Don't the Sikhs face the same or even worse discrimination than the tamils? Ask yourself this question, what political party do the sikhs have to push their agenda? None but why do they continue to progress, is it they have some secret formula? This is a serious question, ANY TAKERS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
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