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Tuesday, 23 December 2008 08:48

(The Star) DAP leaders have reacted strongly against PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa’s statement that Pakatan Rakyat would have introduced hudud laws if they had formed the Government on Sept 16.

DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said he was surprised by Husam’s statement as hudud laws had never been part of the Pakatan manifesto.

“I am also unsure if the news report is correct. If it is true, then I will contact (Opposition Leader) Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim for clarification,” he told newsmen here yesterday.

Lim, who is Penang Chief Minister, said

the DAP had never agreed to the implementation of hudud laws or the forming of an Islamic state.

DAP chairman Karpal Singh said: “The statement cannot and will not get any support from the DAP.” Karpal said PAS should not sacrifice the unity of Pakatan on the altar of political expediency.

“The time has come for PAS to discard myopic political considerations and try to appreciate the larger political landscape which is a necessity for the continued existence of Pakatan,” he said.

In Petaling Jaya, DAP adviser Lim Kit Siang said Husam must clarify his statement otherwise it would create unease, anxiety and opposition among Chinese voters in the Kuala Terengganu by-election, as well as Malays and other non-Malays.

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written by Rashid, December 23, 2008 08:52:36
“I am also unsure if the news report is correct. If it is true, then I will contact (Opposition Leader) Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim for clarification,” he told newsmen here yesterday.


Husam made a "forced" statement to answer a question, but berUMNO (bernama) chose to manipulate his statement and leave kera jantan (KJ) statement out. This nefarious work shouldn't cause any anxiety and divide the people.
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written by ahmadneil, December 23, 2008 09:06:28
DAP,let them implement this Hudud becos Hadi will give me the job of 'Hand Chopper'. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by Milo, December 23, 2008 10:19:44
The trouble is not Hudud Laws per se. It is the intended imposition of Hudud laws on non-muslims that the people are having issue with. It is so arrogant of Pas to assume otherwise, that is others would have no problem with the adoption of the ancient Hudud Laws as federal laws that will affect them.

The unbelievably myopic views of PAS and the lack of common sense in making such statement itself should be a great cause for concern for those who support Pakatan Rakyat. Throughout history we have seen how dogmatic religions have created problems and suffering for people when they drive how people lives.
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written by KotaDamansara73, December 23, 2008 12:17:43
DAP, please kick PAS out of pakatan rakyat.

PAS is a stupid party to care more about life after death. STupid PAS people.
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written by asguard, December 23, 2008 12:59:53
Like before i have already said it... people will watch what you folks at PAS say or do...
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written by Newkidonblog, December 23, 2008 13:57:28
PAS champions Ketuanan Islam
UMNO champions Ketuanan Melayu

Hello non-muslim,non-Malay and non-Malay bumiputera whom we are proud to be called MALAYSIANS, what say you?

S.C.R.E.W. them!
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written by KotaDamansara73, December 23, 2008 16:39:46
Mawi,

Islamic and shariah law is inhumanne and backward. Chopping off people's hand is inhumanne. And requiring 4 witness to prosecute a rapist is illogical.

what about foreinsic science. What about applying science and logic in investigation.

Mawi, why don't you leave Islam. We chinese already left Buddhism. We got no religious affiliations and we learn English and Malay to survive and advance.

Why don't you stop being stupid. Nobody is taking away your stupid Malay rights. We buy land from the CM of the State and develop the state. You and your Malay goverment always come and rob our business that we build.

Mawi,

why don;t you be more progressive in your thinking. You want to practice your ISlam, go ahead and practice. But please don't simply park your car everywhere and block the tracffic. Don't impose your islamic laws onto us.

If you don't like the Chinese and Indians to have Malaysian citizenship, then revoke our citizenship and deport us. Don't just talk and talk and talk and talk.
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written by The Hammer, December 23, 2008 16:40:47
If PAS insist on having the HUDUD laws implemented by all means go ahead; but first implement in your Kelantan stste for 5 years. During these 5 years PAS must out weed out those Muslims who are corrupted and chop off their limbs, chop of their head if they committed murder, impale if they commit adultery , etc etc. After 5 years, we the rakyat will assess whether HUDUD laws works or not in solving evil! Then we the rakyat will give the mandate by voting for you.
Questions to ponder.
Why is PAS is so keen to have blood on their clean clean hand and their white "juba"?
Do they get points for convicting Muslims or non Muslims for not being upto their standard?
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written by renoir, December 23, 2008 17:10:59
Husam was ill-advised to have made such a statement. Clearly he's copying UMNO's tactic of playing to the gallery. However, in a choice between two sides playing to the same gallery, PAS is still preferable to UMNO (think what actually happens in Kelantan, or for that matter, Perak).

Continue to support PAS, which as RPK noted cannot implement anything without PKR or DAP anyway.

LChuah
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written by panca, December 23, 2008 19:09:45
written by KotaDamansara73, December 23, 2008 16:39:46 Mawi,We chinese already left Buddhism


Yeah we can leave Buddhism anytime. There is no such thing in Buddhism as a religion. It's your life and you shape your own life, shape your own karma! We don't need Buddhism and in reality, Buddhism does not need anyone to believe either. It is not a belief and there is nothing to believe and no need conversion, no need at all. We are free to leave. There is nothing to convert and there is nothing to believe. There is only one important thing in Buddhism and do not rely on belief. It is superstitious to believe as with believers(even some Buddhist).

Buddhism is about the transformation of a untrained mind to a mind on clarity. Never get converted, the only conversion is the exchange rates!
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written by mawi, December 23, 2008 21:24:40
Kota Damansara

You must be overtly shallow when you quoted Islamic law and syariah law as there is no distinction between the two. Syariah Law are laws that are confined within the Islamic jurisprudence hence there is no such thing as Islamic law and Syariah law. It is as stupid as saying that the laws for drug trafficking and criminal laws are two separate laws. With the most basic fact already twisted, only blatantly primitive or ignorant people can conclude that Islamic law is inhuman and backward.

If chopping off people's hand is inhuman, then based on your analogy, electrocuting another human or hanging a person by the neck must make progressive people like you worst than a gorrilla. In fact, putting people in cages and making them do hard labour without any pay must be unthinkable.

Where have you been ? Punitive repercussion are always for a crime committed no matter what it is being called. Hudud, civil, criminal or even Kota Damansara's law. Just can't imagine, the person who maimed and burnt Canny Ong or the person who stuffed Nurin's frail body in a sports bag be showered with roses and fragrance. Only perverts, who reach triple orgasm to these horrific acts will condone this, But you are not one or are you?

You mention the use of the word science and forensic investigation where you dismissed the fact that those who does this investigation are humans. I guess you must be too naive or plain stupid to know that in Islam, the four witnesses to the crime could also be those that does this investigation and you are too dumb to know that in Islam, the witnesses must be of credible witness. To make it simple for you to understand, even if the investigating person is a specialist in his line of forensic investigation, his findings are not credible if he is closely related, in whatsoever way, to the person accused. Hope that's not too complicated for you to comprehend (understand, if you do not know what comprehend means).

I don't give two hoot about you leaving Buddhism but sorry, I'm not leaving something that does not require me to stringently learn English and Malay to survive and advance. My life also goes way beyond these mere 60 or 70 years of living in this mortal world . My idea of surviving is also for the infinite life and not your concept of this mediocre temporary existence in this planet earth.

If you don't understand my earlier message looking at the way you, rave and rant, I'm not talking about Malay rights but rather , I'm talking about how one cannot infringe one's way into others especially when the other person's way is more legitimate than yours. What is more hypocritical is when you shout and hail freedom for one to exercise his or her own faith then suddenly you turn around and demand that people who does not belong to your faith can't do what their faith requires them to do and worst persistently insist that they must do it your way. Sorry, if this is too difficult for you since you are .... emmmh not clever.

Kota Damansara, I know you have been in some other planet or maybe you could have been a donkey or a dodo in your past life which reasoned why you say that I am imposing Islamic law on to you. If you see living as an agnostic atheist or practice homosexuality as being progressive, so be it. To us Surah Al Kafirun applies and that also answer your question on this thing you called imposition.

By the way, I have Chinese, Bugis, Javanese and Dutch ancestral and if I can revoke citizenships , I guess you and your attitude would be extremely on my wish list and to be revoked into oblivion. We definitely do not need sorry ass people who do not understand simple things. BUT SORRY, my Chinese and Indian citizens are for keeps . After all, that is what was commanded to us by Allah in one of his verse to mankind but he does make exception to the ones that must have been born as donkeys with a mule’s brain in their past life. Oh, is that why you left Buddhism?
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written by Msahibul56, December 23, 2008 22:27:26
Whether you believe in God and His laws or not, you are all going to die one day. Then you will certainly find out whether heaven and hell exist. The choice is yours. There is no compulsion in religion. That is what His law states.
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