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Yoga is in Religion. Religion is not in Yoga. PDF Print
Monday, 24 November 2008 23:35
While Yoga may be in Religions, the many Yoga practices with body, breath and mind, along with their transcendent goal of direct experience, are generally neither characteristic of Religions, nor typically practiced by the adherents of Religions.

The simple explanation

Question: Is Yoga a religion? 
Answer: No, but the question is important to consider. 

Yoga means union. It is the joining together the aspects of ourselves which were never divided in the first place.

 

What's missing with Yoga?

Here are a few of the things that are usually part of religions, but which are missing with Yoga:

Yoga has no deity to worship.
Yoga has no worship services to attend.
Yoga has no rituals to perform.
Yoga has no sacred icons.
Yoga has no creed or formal statement of religious belief.
Yoga has no requirement for a confession of faith.
Yoga has no ordained clergy or priests to lead religious services.
Yoga has no institutional structure, leader or group of overseers.
Yoga has no membership procedure.
Yoga has no congregation of members or followers.
Yoga has no system of temples or churches.

Religion can be extremely useful

To point out that Yoga is not religion, or that Yoga is in religion, but religion not in Yoga, are not facts opposed to religion. That one should or should not practice religion is not what is being described here. Religion can be extremely useful, and some would say absolutely essential. That one can practice Yoga either with or without religion is described further below.

See also the article:Philosophy, Not Religion

Respecting religious choice: Practitioners of Yoga may be very clear about Yoga not conflicting with any religion. However, there are many thousands of denominations and sects within many diverse religions. Some of these groups have religious beliefs that might seem very different to ones own.

For example, some say that certain foods should be eaten, while others say that the same food item should not be eaten. Some suggest polygamy, while others require monogamy. Some agree with medical treatment, while others say that healing is only up to God, and that modern medical treatment should not be used. Some believe in social freedoms, while others believe more in religious discipline.

So too, some consider basic practices like calming the autonomic nervous system through diaphragmatic breathing to be of a different religion, while others see this as a universal human process from which anyone can benefit. Some others consider making the body flexible to be a part of religion, while others see it is physical fitness, while still others see it as a part of systematic, non-sectarian meditation. Some of the customs of various religions may seem odd to the others, but these are the realities of the diversity of humanity.

Pointing out this diversity in this article is not intended to resolve these issues, nor to proffer a solution. However, it seems useful to accept that, to some degree, there are people who consider Yoga to be religion, even though we may know it is not. Maybe it is good to respect that choice of others.

Yoga means union

The word Yoga means union, and comes from "yuj" which means "to join," to bring together into union the various aspects of yourself that were never divided in the first place. From that comes the direct experience of yourself that is beyond the false identities stemming from the seemingly countless colorings of attraction and aversion. Another modern adaptation of this principle is the word holistic, meaning to become whole, or to realize your underlying wholeness.

Patanjali describes this in the Yoga Sutras where he defines Yoga as the mastery (nirodha) of the mind (Sutra 1.2), allowing the true Self to then come shining through (Sutra 1.3). Patanjali also explains that the purpose of Yoga is discrimination (viveka) among the inner processes (Sutras 2.26-2.29). The process of mastering and integrating the mind may be a part of religions, but that does not mean that regulating your mind in this way is, itself, a religion.

Virtues in Yoga and Religion

Yoga also recommends meditation on, and cultivation of lovingness, compassion, goodwill and acceptance, as well as non-violence, truthfulness, training the senses, non-possessiveness, and other such virtues (Yoga Sutras 1.33, 2.30-2.32). Religions also recommend cultivating such virtues. However, it is self evident that cultivating these ways of being or living are not themselves religion. When these are practiced in Yoga, the subtler, finer, truer aspects of our being are revealed, and this may or may not be seen in the context of religion. That choice rests with each individual person.

What does the dictionary say?

Four definitions of religion: Below are four definitions of religion, taken from the Encarta World English Dictionary, an online dictionary. Based on those definitions, is Yoga a religion? 
 

Definitions of religion: 

Is Yoga a religion? 

1. Beliefs and worship:
"People's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities, and divine involvement in the universe and human life"

No: Yoga does not prescribe the worship of any specific "deity or deities." The word divine is defined (in dictionaries) as coming from, or connected with God or gods. Yoga does not give specific instructions for the "existence, nature, [or] worship". Yet, Yoga acknowledges that bhakti Yoga, the path of devotion is a valid aspect of Yoga. Yoga does not tell you where to direct that devotion, or the specific methods by which you should do it. That is left to personal religious preference. (See also the note below on the fallacy of composition, in that some will argue that Yoga is a religion because some may suggest or allude to a particular name of God or deity.)

2. Particular system:  
"A particular institutionalized or personal system of beliefs and practices relating to the divine"

No: Once again, divine is defined as relating to God or gods, and Yoga itself does not prescribe to what or whom one should direct their worship, nor does Yoga require it. Again, Yoga definitely acknowledges the value of bhakti Yoga, regardless of which form that takes for an individual person. It also may be true that one uses the word divine in other ways as well. Also, Yoga itself is not institutionalized as a religious system, although some of the principles are contained within many religions or other systems (such as the principles of kindness to other people, taking care of one's body, regulating breathing, or quieting the mind). 

3. Beliefs or values:   
"A set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that somebody lives by"

Maybe, but not really: One could argue that Yoga is a religion by the definition of religion as being a set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that one lives by. On the other hand, this could also apply to many other things as well, including governmental, educational, psychological, social, cultural, or familial ways of living. Common sense tells us that these are not really what is meant by the word religion in the context of questioning whether or not Yoga is a religion. 

4. Obsession:   
"An object, practice, cause, or activity that somebody is completely devoted to or obsessed by (
The danger is that you start to make fitness a religion.)" [Italics are in the dictionary.]
 

Maybe, but not really: One could become "completely devoted to or obsessed by" Yoga, and thus this use of the word religion might apply. Once again, however, common sense tells us that this is not really the meaning of the word religion. Most people have a working, day-to-day, common language sense of the meaning of a religion, and it simply does not apply to Yoga. 

 

Yoga and ducks

An old saying: There is an old saying that, "If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck!"

Only when you commingle Yoga and Religion does Yoga appear to be Religion.

They look similar because of commingling: This is where the problem arises with Yoga and religion. Sometimes, when one encounters Yoga in particular organizations or groups of people, it can look very much like a religion. This is because some of the teachers and practitioners of Yoga and Yoga meditation commingle Yoga with religious practices. This is particularly true in the arena of bhakti Yoga, the Yoga of devotion. From the standpoint of bhakti Yoga, it is the devotion that is the point, not that a particular object is suggested for that devotion. Thus, one may practice bhakti, or devotion, from within his or her own religious preference.

Teachers presenting their own religion: When the teachers practice their own religion in the context of Yoga, and present that to their students, the students end up with a mixture of Yoga and religion. The student may know the theory (and truth) that Yoga is not a religion, while at the same time those same students are practicing the religion of their teacher in addition to practicing Yoga.

Yoga and religion get blended: Gradually, Yoga and the religious practices blend, and suddenly you have a religious duck named Yoga! This does not mean that Yoga or Yoga meditation is a religion. It does mean that a particular organization, lineage, or system may have taken on the coloring of religion, and within that sphere, there is religion being practiced.

Logical fallacy of composition: In the area of logic or deductive reasoning, one of the erroneous ways of arguing a point is the logical fallacy of composition. One version of the fallacy of composition is projecting a characteristic assumed by a part to be the characteristic assumed by the whole. For example, we might say that some people like a particular food, and then make the logical fallacy of saying that all people like that food, confusing the part and the whole. The way this happens with Yoga is that one might argue that since some teachers and aspirants, current or historical, have practiced Yoga in the context of religion, the whole of Yoga itself is therefore a religion. By understanding the fallacy of composition, it is easier to see through such arguments.

Yoga and silence

Keeping the context of your own religion: Yoga systematically deals with all levels of your being, leading you to a place of deep stillness and silence. From within this stillness and silence, you can more fully experience spirituality in the context of your own religion and personal beliefs.

World > Senses > Body > Breath > Mind > Silence

It's about removing obstacles: When we are not experiencing such a deep stillness and silence, it is because our world, senses, body, breath and mind have become obstacles to inner peace and spiritual awareness. (See Yoga Sutra 1.4)

Then comes spiritual insight: It is in the spirit of observing, accepting, understanding, and training ourselves in Yoga Meditation that these obstacles are gently, systematically removed. It is somewhat like gradually thinning out a cloud bank that is veiling the spiritual serenity that is naturally there. In this way, our world and the aspects of our own being can become tools rather than obstacles. This spiritual focus is the entire purpose of Yoga. (See the article, Modern Yoga versus Traditional Yoga.)

Feeling closer to your own religion: Through this spiritual focus of Yoga, one may come closer to their own religious roots, although the practices themselves are not necessarily religious.

Religion and mysticism

Exoteric and esoteric: One of the main reasons for the appearance of Yoga being like religion, is really a confusion between religion and mysticism. Within most religions, there are shades of gray within two poles, that are called Exoteric and Esoteric. (See the article Mysticism, Yoga, and Religion)

Each religion has both: The Exoteric, or external religious practices are what most of us see as dominant in our cultures. Within all of the Exoteric religions, there are also Esoteric practitioners that are seeking direct experience. These seekers of direct experience are often outcasts from the Exoteric organizations of their own religion. This has happened throughout human history. The examples are easy to find in books and articles, and are not presented here.

Yoga is Esoteric: Yoga is itself a mystical seeking of the direct experience of inner realities or truths. However, Yoga itself is not telling an aspirant what religion to follow. It is involved with training in the process of working with senses, body, breath, and mind, such that the inner can be experienced directly (See the description of Yoga in Yoga Sutra 1.2 and the description of the seer in Yoga Sutra 1.3). Yoga deals with the Esoteric, rather than the Exoteric. In this light, some of the practices of Yoga are contained within religions, while religion is not contained within Yoga.

Only an appearance of conflict: What appears to be conflict between a particular religion and Yoga is often not really valid, because of comparing an Exoteric religion with the Esoteric practices of Yoga. This same appearance of conflict also occurs within religions themselves, usually due to the fact that the Exoteric followers have little understanding of the Esoteric seeker. The Exoteric follower has simply not traveled far enough to feel the deep-seated Esoteric longing of the mystic and yogi to know the deeper teachings and direct experience.

The Yogis and Mystic Seekers must come to accept that they are consistently in a minority.

Seeing in front and behind: In the principle of spiritual life being like climbing the steps of a ladder, or staircase, it is easy to see the steps behind you, while it is difficult to see the steps still in front of you. Thus, in the view of the Exoteric religionist, the Esoteric seeker or Yogi is seen to have strayed from the path, to be an evil person or sinner, or to have a psychopathological problem.

Learn acceptance of being in a minority: Like it or not, the practitioners of Yoga and the mystic seekers in our modern world, like those throughout human history, must accept that there is rejection by others who do not understand the subtler path. This is not likely to change, for the simple reason that the seekers of inner experience and truth are consistently in a minority.

 

How to deal with Yoga and religion

Make a personal choice: The Yoga practices of self-awareness, self-training, and self-discovery are non-sectarian, and are compatible with all religions. If you are familiar with the differences between Yoga and religion, it is easy to keep them separate, or if you prefer, to integrate them. The choice rests with each person as an individual.

Choices about Yoga and religion

1. Keep them separate. 
If you wish to keep Yoga, religion, and spiritual matters completely separate, this is easy to do. It simply means practicing and studying your Yoga at places, and with people who share those same values and orientations of Yoga not being part of religion. Each person is free to follow their own religion in their own way. 

2. Retain and blend your religion. 
If you wish to practice Yoga, including its deeper, more authentic, so-called spiritual aspects, retaining and blending the religion of your youth, family, and culture, that too can be done quite easily (keeping in mind, however, that authentic Yoga will lead one towards the esoteric or mystic and of the spectrum of religion, as noted above). 

3. Choose a new religion. 
If you wish to integrate Yoga with a religion new to you, and you are with a teacher or organization whose values and orientations match yours, this too may be done. 

 

Have clarity about your religion, and choose: It seems most useful to have inner clarity about one's own religious preferences. Then it is easier to choose whether to practice Yoga separately from religion, in the context of religion, or with no religion at all. Then, the aspirant can attain all of the benefits of both their religion and of Yoga. The benefits of Yoga are for everyone.

Yoga is for everybody: All of these options are available to each of us in our practice of Yoga. There is a simple reason that these options are available. That is, Yoga truly is not a religion, and thus, Yoga can serve all people of all faiths or beliefs.

 

 -  Extracted from Web - Vineeth

 

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written by citizenmy, November 24, 2008 23:47:08
Thanks for this posting.
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written by Oscar Winner, November 24, 2008 23:48:42
Have they all gone gaga?
First they will ban yoga,
Next qigong and taichi juga..
Coz they say you won't go to syurga...

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written by fireduck, November 25, 2008 00:13:10
Wah, that's hardcore reading. Kinda like a whole wikipedia on Yoga.

But this caught my eye:
An old saying: There is an old saying that, "If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck!"


New version : It looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, but it can't be a lingam.

I'm a duck, I know. smilies/grin.gif

Whatever it is, I believe most yoga centres hold classes with no intention to spread the 'religion', but just to promote the benefits of yoga as a form of exercise. Even if the 'spiritual' is mentioned, there is nothing religious about connecting your mind, body and soul. Unless one is so religious that we 'just leave it to God' preferring not to have any conscious thinking on one's part. That happens in all religions.
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written by Msian Idol3, November 25, 2008 00:14:34
Muslim brothers & sisters in Msia are subject to so many this & that rules. I just don't have a brain to register all such fartwa's. Already cari makan is so diificult, I mean really hard work & these idiots in Fatwa council cannot see thru the woods whats more important in Msian daily lives. Corruption, nepotism & all ills dish out by our mentri's, judicial etc -- how come no fatwa's??? Just don't bully the honest normal guy/gal working hard for a living, we have enough headaches already.
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written by nrama, November 25, 2008 00:46:18
And Spirituality is all encompassing.
To the open minded no explanation is necessary.
To the close minded and fearful no explanation will prevail.

Blessed be,
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written by cheemengwong, November 25, 2008 00:49:48
These people have nothing more important to do lah!. Next they will come up with a Fack Gua on how to make love to your wife! Stupid Morons.
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written by nrama, November 25, 2008 00:57:09
Esoteric branch of Islam practiced yoga by other names. Still a rose.
Blessed be
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written by Simha, November 25, 2008 01:09:25
I think it is better that these group of goons better stay away from yoga. If they find it so useful later they go and hijack it and say non muslim cannot practice yoga. Well, I am going to practice silat later and learn how to chant their mantra and communicate with the spirits(ghost).
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written by Motherchell, November 25, 2008 01:21:42
Time to ban English then!- before all are converted to Christians! Maybe they could experiment a little with Esperanto!

If Yanni thinks like NFC--- then his music should be a cacophony with the various artists from around the world from Armenia to Paraguay!

http://sjsandteam.*********.com

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written by nocrid, November 25, 2008 02:06:16
While this information is useful...Those pea brain religion extremists cannot understand even the first sentences of this post ler...

And Mothercell...

They can also kiss nuclear reactor good bye because E=MC2 is discovered by Einstein who is a Jew. And they will start claiming Earth revolving around Sun because Copernicus and Galileo are not one of them...Haha
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written by NSTPravda, November 25, 2008 05:30:39
We the faithful sokong the rigorous use of Fatwa
We faithfully sokong the wisdom of the Fatwa on Yoga
Fatwa should be used against all infidel taints, we implore
Here are some suggestions to use Jakim Fatwa even more

First we think there should be a Fatwa against all foods
Since we can’t tell which are tainted, all foods be eschewed
We faithfuls should be mindful of the water we drink
A Fatwa against drinking water should really be the thing

Worst of all we share the air with unclean infidels
We should have a Fatwa against breathing as well
Until we have all these Fatwa applied right away
How can our faith be maintained as Semua-nya OK!
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written by borneoman, November 25, 2008 06:21:16
all umno muslim must use mask to prevent contaminated kafirs air from entering their body or maybe the government should provide non muslim with special equipment for filtering the air that they breathe out to prevent air pollution in bolehland.
the natives apologize for breathing out contaminated air for all umno muslim to breathe eversince the formation of the federation of malaysia.
all these stupid nonsense fatwa is driving the natives crazy.get out of our life please.
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written by Tompios, November 25, 2008 07:46:11
100 percent agree. Philosophy religion is not the same as Religion philosophy. Yoga is not religion. In this issue, anything can be a religion or as tool to misguide your faith to other things.

Big house
Big Car
Workaholic
Money oriented
Title oriented

Those are some of things that can guide people away from Islamic's faith. YOUR heart is important than your outside look.
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written by singam, November 25, 2008 08:42:47
The article says "Patanjali describes this in the Yoga Sutras where he defines Yoga as the mastery (nirodha) of the mind (Sutra 1.2), allowing the true Self to then come shining through (Sutra 1.3). Patanjali also explains that the purpose of Yoga is discrimination (viveka) among the inner processes (Sutras 2.26-2.29). The process of mastering and integrating the mind may be a part of religions, but that does not mean that regulating your mind in this way is, itself, a religion.

Herein lies the problem. While Hatha Yoga is focused on physical and mental well-being, one eventually can attain a state of stillness which can lead to introspection and self-realisation. And this is frightening for those whose raison d'etre is to tell others how to practise religion.

Of course, Islam has no problem with such inner seeking. This is exactly what Sufis do. But those who would control the religion cannot tolerate such independent paths. The faithful have to be kept content within the herd.
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written by Milo, November 25, 2008 09:45:39
This is yet another of the mindless edicts issued by JAKIM to date. That yoga can be termed haram just on the basis of some remote original link to Hinduism is as ridiculous as banning any medicinal treatment that were introduced by Christian scientists, hindu priests or buddhist monks.

The irony is Islam itself has its link to older religions, sharing many of its Prophets with other Abrahamic religions like Judaism and Christianity. In fact there were instances in the past where Muslims were converted to christianity because there were convinced by evangelists that Jesus is in fact not just a Prophet but in fact the son of God. If the line of Jakim's reasoning hold, they will soon have to ban Muslims from recognising many of the Prophets mentioned in the Koran too!
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written by Milo, November 25, 2008 09:53:48
In fact, JAKIM (being so insecure about Islam)should also make it haram from Muslim scholars to study and better understand other religions as there is an even higher chance that they may be converted. And Muslims should avoid the study of science because they may become athists!
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written by Hakim Abdullah, November 25, 2008 10:57:11
Excellent stuff..now that was great reading. Thank you....funny to note that in times of such advanced information technology, Jakim and it's religious think tank cannot access such information...or did they not switch on the main switch to their computers?...what boneheads!
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written by yapsir, November 25, 2008 11:14:30
Yoga does have a religious back root,so does Tai Chi.
so does many of the execises.
But !
most of these healthy exercise have evolved out from religions and into pure form of execise.
If not we are going to have problem in learning;
karete-Japanese Sintoism
Tae Kwan Do-Korea Taoist
Tai Chi-Wu Dang Taoistic Philosophy
Silat-mystic animism type of self-defend? (Hinduism Origin?)
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But atleast I am more clear after reading Vineeth's post.
Thanks !
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written by Futurist, November 25, 2008 12:34:20
Ever wonder why there is not much progress within the muslims? To develope, the practice is to pick the good in everything and everywhere. By trying to live within a shell, such narrow thoughts restricts the mind and never to progress.
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written by jaykay, November 25, 2008 13:11:43
Whether Yoga is religion or not it's all depends on the person who practice it.

For a Hindu, Yoga is part of religion as Hindus place religion into everything. Religion for them is a way of life. If a Hindu accidently step on a book he will immediately touch and pray and ask for forgiveness as for him a book signifies the Goddest of Knowledge Saraswathy. This applies in every espect of their life.

A non-Hindu is free to follow everything that in good in Hinduism from Yogurt to Yoga just remove the Hindu God, if that's bothering you, and put your god or believe in it as Hinduism does not force anybody to change their religion or condemn other religion as bad. Be happy the way you are!



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written by KuntaTobey, November 25, 2008 14:44:55
Can someone describe what is Surya Namaskar in Yoga Practice.
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written by Bandit, November 25, 2008 15:56:43
Surya Namaskar = Salutation to the Sun = Haram in Islam.
Chanda namaskar = Salutation to the Moon = Ok in Islam because moon is an islamic symbol. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

The Utusan Malaysia office at Seremban shifted to a new premises when they found out that the landlord was actually the Methodist Church of Seremban. So much for an idiotic newspaper run by morons. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

Very soon a new Futwah. Muslims cannot rent premises belonging to kafirs.Its haram and Allah will be furious.
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written by Simha, November 25, 2008 22:23:06
In certain schools of Buddhism they also pay salutation to the sun called "Suriyo" and the moon "Candima". Without the sun can living beings and other planets survive? Have you heard of the word 'lunatic'? Some people behavior become lunatic during the full moon. Low and high tide are from the energy of the moon. But I believe our Botak and Ahmad were both disturbed by the moon due to the weakness of their mind. Maybe our GH psychiatrics can dispense some medication for them to swallow until full recovery.
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