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I personally think that woman's voice will never be taken seriously in this particular 'circle of belief'. However, do not stop. Keep on voicing your displeasure. I am in agreement with you.

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How good can one be if you have to force your followers to follow the rules? Many Indian become a vegetarian on their own free will on certain days of the month. The Chinese also did the same same thing on the ninth moon of the chinese calendar. Nobody force them, no laws that says they must do it. No enforcers to catch anyone who don't follow. YET THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE DO IT.

How good can one be if force has to be used? It is either you are no good or no confidence on the followers. Why should I believe in you if you don't believe in me?

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At the same time this yoga fatwa was announced, there was also reported in the press the lavish opening of the resort Atlantis in Dubai, UAE. I cannot help thinking of the irony that while, Dubai, on the Arabian peninsula and the bastion of Islam, is moving towards joining the modern world, in Malaysia here we are moving backwards. I am not qualified to comment who is wrong or right but I will wonder how can we expect the Arabs to invest in Malaysia. The Arabs from UAE are among the most business savvy people from the Middle East and the support for Atlantis clearly demonstrates their thinking, which is opposite to what Malaysia is promoting at the moment with this fatwa and the tomboy issues.

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Jeffersonian ideals in Malaysia...

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I am not a Muslim and I will not comment on this. Orders from the IGP. So the non-Muslim will also stay out. But I think I see enough disgust amongst the Muslims on this fatwa that they will surely vote the UMNOputras out of power in the next election. Will they?

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When the women march there will be no stopping them? Hahaha, of course not...march to the kitchen and prepare your men their favourite food. Go ahead make my day. There are more of you in higher institutions of learning, top jobs, etc.etc. and yet you let them lead you by the nose.

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Hahahahaha! Practicing Yoga will lead to deviation of fate.It is this backward thinking that makes a rape victim the instigator, whilst the rapist a victim of consequences. In the old days many religions has this flawed thinking on dos and donts with example of the Spanish inquisition, the boxer rebellion in China, people are led to believe and not taught to think. However today they have moved on. Using sound rationale and reasoning to distinguish the good from the bad and to adopt the good is the way forward.

If this gets out to the international community, Malaysia will be a laughing stock. How can this help boost FDI. If I'm a foreign investor, with choice of countries in this region to invest in. Fatwa on Yoga may just sway my decision in selecting Malaysia.

Incredible that UMNO stand by this fatwa. Anyway it's no lost to the non-muslim, but to all my yoga loving muslim friends, time to look for an alternative exercise!

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What fatwa council said is true. Muslims must accept it.

Muslims can still continue practising it without elements of hinduism.

Xerxes : "Dubai, on the Arabian peninsula and the bastion of Islam"
Muslims cannot deny Dubai is very un-islamic city. They even treat muslims labourer 2nd class with highly arpatheid-like laws.

Fatwas on tomboys or drags are not neccessary, as it is already an Islam teaching.

This is a muslim matter that in NO WAY affect non-muslims.

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This fatwa will affect non-muslims for sure. think about those Sabahan in East Malaysia. Most of the time, one family with so many religions inside. do not say that it will never affect me if my sister (convert to Islam while study in the local university) get caught by the police for acting Tomboy-ism. do you think, non-moslems are not affect my this fatwa? Bullshit!

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I support your noble cause all the way.
It is good to see someone stand up to those goons who kept Muslim women oppressed and under their control.
An awareness must be created to the Muslim women at large not to follow blindly but to exercise sufficient discretion towards logic to differentiate between God's will and the wishes/wants of their men masters. There shall not be any master-slave relationship amongst us all.
Otherwise you shall not have people to march with as they will only march to the sound of their men's voice.

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Yep!..a bunch of moronic uber male chauvinistic crap group finally burned the 'kelambu' because of a 'nyamuk'...won't be long before those bunch of idiots decree that we should all go live in a cave or on top of the tree...Funny how Islam is supposed to progress forward but instead in todays reality it actually retrogaded. Thanks to this moronic decisions, they succeeded in making the rest of us Muslims looked pretty retarded to the rest of civilisation with their warped minded solutions to simple misconceptions. There was a time not too long ago when Muslim Scholars and Muslim intellectuals astounded the world with their brilliant creations and forward thinking mentality. They were admired then... but today?

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Hajjah Marina Yusof,

Sorry corect version below.

It is not the size of the letters that made those blindmen from the dark ages blind. Their blindness is deep within their arrogant and worthless brains.

We can only defeat them by educating the younger generations and instilling in them the ability to think critically.

The Europeans took 1,500 years to get rid of their idiots but some like Bush are still bossing around.

Just like these idiots in Malaysia...

xxx

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The shocking part of the rule of Law in this Country is -- the govt gives a free hand to the little Talibans here to decide the future of this Nation. Its time for all the educated and aware True Malays to help their fellow brothers and sisters who are less fortunate. We are dealing now with Religious Studies dropouts who carry fancy DR and Phd's with their names.

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I am very lucky to be born a non muslim women. This is my first tought when I read of this JAKIM act. They are the least educated, stupid, and are agents for BN. They have no mercy on anything (including the choice of excercise). Is'nt it lucky that I am not under the muslims faith which controls everything. They call themselves religious groups BUT in actual fact the are political groups hiding at JAKIM.

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It is nothing to do with islam. it is all about your mlays race brain of thinking..

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I need to speak up here for women.

1) National Fatwa council should be head by a respectful, educated and smart Muslim woman like Marina Mahathir. This is to avoid fatwa that is biased to women.

2) National Fatwa council should be sue for giving misleading statement that Singapore also have similiar fatwa on yoga as it is not true. How can a high body religious lied to Muslims in Malaysia.

3) National Fatwa should give specfic details on the tomboy dressing fatwa as it is confusing. If dressing a bit more manly is tomboy, then I think we need to ask all the Muslim policewomen to wears skirts or robe and have long hair to run after offenders. The last time I was at city or police station, the female policewoman are wearing pants and having short hair like policeman.

4) In Saudi Arabia, the Muslim men wears robe like dress and turban decorate with flowers. When are we having the same fatwa for Muslim men in Malaysia?

5) PM, you said u wanna introduce moderate Islam by the name Islam Hadari or something like that? Is National Fatwa council try to make a fool out of you?

6) Did National Fatwa get the approval or consent of Conference of Rulers as the last time I check, our Sultans and Agong is the leader of Islam in this country. I guess not since Sultan Selangor said he yet to be consulted. How come National Fatwa council being so disrespectful to our Sultans, the ruler of Islam of Malaysia?

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Rozlan, instead of asking an intelligent, proven personality like Hajjah Marina about what is wrong with her, why don't you go and take a long, a reallly long look at yourself and your ideals, pitiful as they must be, and ask yourself what is wrong with you??

You do not have to resort to insults and snide insinuations to get a point across. But when you do resort to such cheap tactics, they only reveal your inner core which at best seems to be riddled with insecurities and pitiful chauvanism.

And, truly, don't you yourself have better things to do than to show the world how pathetic you really are??

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If I remember correctly, some years ago, a fatwa was passed banning the smoking of cigerettes. What happened to that fatwa? Why was it never enforced??????????????????????????????????????

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FEAR IS AN ARTICLE OF RELIGION!!!
Battlestar Galatica

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I make a comment on fatwa but the admin deleted it. Anyway, on what ground was yoga ban? So later on the fatwa should ban on 'bersanding' because its hindu culture and pelita panjut before aidil fitri, another hindu culture. Shame on you, fatwa!!!

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lets all the Muslims first read and research into yoga and then think and decide if the ruling is done without basis, if you believe in Islam and its emphasis on the unity (tauhid) of God the Creator. Too many people on both sides are 'barking' and most of them don't even know what they're talking about.

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I found this in "Does yoga conflict with Christianity"

David Life runs the Jivamukti Yoga Center in New York City. In his article, Life tells about his guru's visit to New York. The religious role of the guru for Life is established immediately. Life tells us, "I pray to a picture of Pattabhi Jois every day," and he points out that the guru "backs up everything with Sanskrit scripture" (73). According to Life, Pattabhi Jois "pulsates with the auru of a true siddha, one who has acquired unusual powers through dedication to yoga practice and teaching for more than 70 years" (74). Heady stuff, and Life admits that being around his guru makes him nervous.

Each day after class the guru's followers lined up to take turns bowing down to Guruji, touching the guru's feet and then touching their own heads. When one of Life's students expressed uneasiness about bowing down to the guru, Life told him, "Don't bow down to just a man ... instead bow down to your own Self that you recognize inside him. Then bowing down to him is no different than bowing down before your own higher nature" (76). The student complied, apparently deciding that he didn't have a problem worshiping himself. After all, according to the pantheistic philosophy he was taught, we are all one divine Self.
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This is what the writer summarises:

Does yoga conflict with my religion? You betcha. Anything that tells people that God cannot bring them ultimate happiness (as Robert Thurman argued) conflicts with my belief that the chief end of human beings is to love God and enjoy him forever. Anything that encourages people to worship their yoga master (as David Life attested) conflicts with my belief that the Lord is God and there is no other. Anything that encourages people to believe that spiritual fulfillment can be attained in any religion (as Alan Reder claims) conflicts with my belief that without Jesus Christ people of all religions (even Christianity!) are lost.

source: http://www.irr.org/yoga&christianity.html

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That is what a Christian thinks about yoga. What about us Muslims?

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This is what a Mulsim says about yoga:

. Metaphysical Doctrine.
Since the metaphysic of Advaita Vedanta is in agreement with the tawhîd (doctrine of oneness) of Islam, there is perfect compatibility between Islam and yoga on the highest level. All traditional esoterisms agree that everything in manifestation has its origin in the Supernal. The manifestations on the material plane are derived from the ideational realm of archetypes (known as al-a‘yân al-thâbitah in the metaphysics of Ibn al-‘Arabî). This world, limited as it is, is just an expression of the ultimate Reality, and will ultimately be reabsorbed in its supernal Origin. Advaita Vedanta and Islamic esoteric metaphysics are agreed that God is the only absolutely real, eternal Reality; all else is contingent and therefore transitory. The unitary view of reality in Advaita Vedanta accords well with the tawhîd (divine oneness) of Islam, and the Oneness of Being in the Sufi doctrine of Ibn al-‘Arabî.

source: http://www.crescentlife.com/we...d_yoga.htm

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Zikir in Islam is a form of meditation. Like this writer says: "In fact I believe that one of the deadliest problem in the Islamic world now that we don't practice meditation like before in our golden age"


I don't see anything in Islam against Yoga and its practice , because the main thing in Yoga is meditation and Islam doesn't prohibit meditation on the contrary ,Prophets Ibrahim "Abraham" and Mohamed "PBUH" both of them reached to God through the meditation , yes of course the holy spirit angel "Gabriel" came down to earth to them , but they thought in the world around and them , thinking in God's creation and the Universe I think is some kind of an order in the holy Quran, it is mentioned several times. For Instance when I used to practice Yoga ,I used to close my eyes ,trying not to think in anything at first and just say "Sobhan Allah" and similar praises inside me , of course I could not stay more than 20 minutes in the same place on one position doing nothing . Yes Yoga is the product of the Hinduism but in the end of the day I worship Allah and I pray to the Mecca's direction not lighting up candles for Shiva with all my respects to the Hindus

In fact I believe that one of the deadliest problem in the Islamic world now that we don't practice meditation like before in our golden age

source: http://egyptianchronicles.vox....iracy.html

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Awwww Marina Yusoff I feel your pain. You are absolutely right. Come on gather the religiously sound muslims and fight for Islam. These half baked religious people have been misusing their power for a long,long time. They totally enjoy bullying women also.The religious authority in this country NEEDS HELP URGENTLY. THEY ARE MENTALLY SICK. RELIGION,GOD,RELIGIOUS JOURNEY IS ALL TOO PERSONAL AND NO ONE SHOULD DICTATE ANOTHER ON THESE THINGS

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This is a bunch of syok sendiri flers who've lost their way in the real world and are now gropping in the dark in trying to create their syok sendiri world whilst trying to make sense of a new syok sendiri system by formulating their syok sendiri and sporadic policies...err..err..now where am I?? Oo me gosh..err I'm lost, I give up...Can anyone help??

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Too may 'fiqh' (rituals) ulama. All they know is halal and haram and that too based on what they think and what they fear. When question in depth they ask people not to question. You know why?..They themselves don't know how to explain. They treat the 'non-ulama' like children. In the first place, they are the ones who elevate themselves as 'ulama' or 'scholar' ... in the academic sense, thas all. The greatest ulama, Prohet Muhammad S.A.W. never had any doctorate or passed any exam or go to university. His exemplary behaviour and conduct and his God-given inspiration from God was genuine. Dare these people claim that they are the inheritors of Rasulullah?... Ask them to muhasabah diri (look and study their own selves)..they are the ones who need it most.

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