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Monday, 21 January 2008 14:35

Mr Tommy Thomas took me to see Mr Karpal Singh who was then counsel acting for him in the defamation suit filed by Dato V K Lingam. Mr Karpal Singh wanted to see the documents but refused to see me.

WITNESS STATEMENT

BACKGROUND

I, THIRUNAMA KARASU A/L KANDAR VELUPILLAI (NRIC NO. 571107-10-5021) residing at No. 122, Jalan SS5A/2, Kelana Jaya, 47301 Petaling Jaya hereby make the following statement:-

1. I am the 6th sibling in the family of five (5) boys and two (2) girls.

2. The other siblings are as follows:-

a. Dato’ Kanagalingam Velupillai (brother)

b. Miss Kanakalashimi Velupillai (sister)

c. Dato’ Sivaparanjothi Velupillai (brother)

d. Mr. Panjaratnam Velupillai (brother)

e. Ms. Chinmaya Devi (sister)

f. Mr Rajendram Velupillai (brother)

3. I am the second youngest in the family and having been educated up to Form Three. I studied in Sekolah Menengah Sultan Abdul Samad, Petaling Jaya.

4. I joined Lembaga Letrik Negara (LLN) in Bangsar in 1981 as a labourer. I was maintaining the Kilat Club grounds.

5. Then I was transferred to Consumer Testing Department in Jalan Imbi.

6. My scope of work involves installing meters and check wiring both domestic and industrial.

7. Then I was sent to do an electrician’s course by TNB. I went to Bangi to do this course. This was around 1991.

8. After completing the course, I continued working in TNB as a electrician around 1991/1992.

9. On or about January 1995, my brother Dato’ V K Lingam asked me to resign from TNB as my salary is “chicken-feed” and join his firm to “run errands” for him.

10. Since I did not want to resign, he then offered to make me Equipment Manager for his company in British Guyana, South America.

11. From July 1995, I started to work in Dato’ V K Lingam’s house. At about this time I was served with a disciplinary notice from TNB but I was not concerned as I had made up my mind to join Dato V K Lingam.

12. In December 1995, I resigned from TNB and in January 1996, I joined Dato V K Lingam’s firm with a paid salary of RM1,250.00.

13. I set forth the incidences in which Dato V K Lingam used me to deal with the judges.

1. Sending files to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house

On or around early 1995, Dato V K Lingam told me to come to his house to follow him to his friend’s house. I went to Dato V K Lingam’s house at 11.00 pm. Little did I know then that his friend was Tun Eusoff Chin. Dato V K Lingam brought a few files and we drove to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. Upon arriving there, Dato V K Lingam told me to come and pick him up later when he calls me in my house. I went back to my house. Dato V K Lingam called me around 12.30 to 1.00 am and I drove Dato V K Lingam’s BMW to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house to pick him up there. When I arrived at Tun Eusoff Chin’s, I saw Dato V K Lingam talking to Tun Eusoff Chin and telling Tun Eusoff Chin, “Thank you My Lord, Thank you My Lord”. Only then I realised that this was Tun Eusoff Chin’s house.

On several other occasions from 1995 to 1996 , I had driven Dato V K Lingam to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house using different cars. On one occasion Dato V K Lingam told me that the reason he is using different cars to go to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house is because he does not want to be noticed by other people.

On one occasion, when the Perwaja incident was being investigated, I was present in Dato V K Lingam’s house. His wife Datin Dr Gnanajothy shouted at Dato V K Lingam asking him to stop all these nonsense with the judges because there will be another investigation. Following this, I too once advised Dato V K Lingam to stop going to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house but Dato V K Lingam told me not to worry as he knows what he was doing.

2. Sending poison pen letters

My first assignment given to me by Dato V K Lingam was in 1995 when I was asked to deliver a set of poison pen letters to the house of the following judges:-

a. Tun Eusoff Chin’s house at No. 21, Jalan 3/78, University Garden, Petaling Jaya.

b. Dato Low Hop Bing at No. 22, Jalan 3/88, University Garden, Petaling Jaya.

c. Dato K L Rekhraj at SS2/74A, Petaling Jaya.

d. Dato Mokhtar Sidin at Jalan Gurney, Kuala Lumpur

e. The former Attorney General, the late Tan Sri Mokhtar Abdullah at Jalan SS7/2,Kelana Jaya, 47301 Petaling Jaya.

3. Sending magazines to judges house

Around 1995, I was asked to deliver the magazine entitled “Commercial Litigation – Malaysian Justice on Trial” by Euromoney to all the persons named above.

4. The Dinner in Dato V K Lingam’s house

Around April/May 1995, Dato V K Lingam had a dinner party in his house where he invited Tun Eusoff Chin, his wife Puan Sri Rosaini, their two children. Tan Sri Lamin Yunus and his wife were also present. Dato V Sivaparanjothi, Mr Panjaratnam was also present. The others who were present were as follows:-

a. Ramli – Bodyguard cum driver

b. Budiman Bahadur – the present bodyguard ( a Nepalese)

c. A Malay Security Guard employed by Dato V K Lingam.

5. Intended purchase of house for Tun Eusoff Chin

On or around October 1995, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to bring the house keys for the house No. 2, SS1/38, Kg. Tunku, Petaling Jaya. I accordingly went there to Dato V K Lingam’s house and I met Tun Eusoff Chin and his wife at Dato V K Lingam’s house. Subsequently I followed Dato V K Lingam in his BMW (Registration No. WDN 788). Tun Eusoff Chin and his wife followed our car in their Mercedes Benz. At the back of Tun Eusoff Chin’s car, Dato V K Lingam’s bodyguards namely Ramli and Budiman were following in a car bearing registration number WCN 8981.

In the car, Dato V K Lingam told me that he wants to give the house at No. 2, SS1/38, Kg Tunku, Petaling Jaya to Tun Eusoff Chin as a gift. Upon arriving at this house, I showed Tun Eusoff Chin and his wife the house in the presence of Dato’ V K Lingam. However, from the conversation between Dato V K Lingam and Tun Eusoff Chin, I gathered that Tun Eusoff Chin and his wife were not happy. I heard Tun Eusoff Chin telling Dato V K Lingam he wants a bigger land to build a house of his own choice.

In the car, on our way back, Dato V K Lingam told me to look for two plots of land as Tan Sri Vincent Tan and Dato V K Lingam want to buy the land for Tun Eusoff Chin. I contacted Mr P M Vijendran who was then working for Reapfields Sdn Bhd. Dato V K Lingam also told me to tell Dato Sivaparanjothi and Mr Panjaratnam to look for the two plots of land.

6. Delivering cakes to Tun Eusoff Chin

On or around 1995, I was also asked by Dato V K Lingam to deliver cakes from Angel Cake House situated to SS2 (which I had shown the ACA officers when I was held under remand by the ACA sometime in 1998), to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house for functions such as Hari Raya, Children’s Birthday, Wife’s Birthday.

7. Sending telephone application forms to judges houses

In January 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to send Mutiara Telecommunications batch of application forms to Dato Low Hop Bing’s house. I sent the forms there. Then sometime in January/February 1996 Dato V K Lingam instructed me to go to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house to collect the signed application form. So I went to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. His wife handed over the forms to me. I noticed that Tun Eusoff’s wife had signed the form. I gave the form to Dato V K Lingam. I also went to Dato K L Rekhraj’s house to collect the forms.

 

8. Handbag and Wallet given to Tun Eusoff Chin

On or about 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to go to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house to deliver a briefcase with a brown envelope in it. There were some documents in it. Together with this briefcase, I also delivered a ladies handbag and a man’s wallet. Dato V K Lingam told me that these items were from Italy. I personally gave it to Tun Eusoff Chin.

9. Three (3) bowls of soup

On or about 1996, I was in Dato K L Rekhraj’s house with Dato V K Lingam. The two of them were talking something about Dato Gopal Sri Ram. They referred to Tun Eusoff Chin as Y.C. Dato V K Lingam told Dato K L Rekhraj that Tun Eusoff Chin’s wife was ill. At that juncture, Dato V K Lingam told me to ask my brother, Panjaratnam’s wife to make soup and deliver it to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. The following night, I went to see Rebecca who is Panjaratnam’s wife and Panjaratnam and I collected 3 bowls of soup from the house. We drove Panjaratnam’s car, Proton Wira BDV 1862 belonging to Panjaratnam, to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. Both of us went into the compound of Tun Eusoff Chin’s house to deliver the 3 bowls of soup.

The following day, I went to collect the three empty bowls from Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. To my surprise, Tun Eusoff Chin’s maid gave me four empty bowls. I told the maid that one brown bowl which was given to me was not the one that I had brought the previous day. The maid said that she knows but this additional bowl was the bowl which was sent by Datin Dr Gnanajothy (Dato V K Lingam’s wife) earlier when Datin Dr Gnanajothy had delivered a bowl of curry.

I took the bowl to Datin Dr Gnanajothy’s house to give it her but she said she had already collected all her bowls back and it must be Panjaratnam’s wife’s bowl. So I took it to Panjaratnam’s house, but Rebecca (Panjaratnam’s wife), also said that it was not her bowl. So I took this bowl back to my house and kept it there until March 1998. When I held in remand by ACA, the ACA officers came to my house and took this bowl away from my wife, Jansrani a/p A Ramasamy.

9. Purchase of handphones

On or about January to March 1996, I was given cash sum of RM1,200.00 by Dato V K Lingam to purchase a handphone from Mutiara Telecommunication at Lot 1, Level 1, Shahzan Prudential Tower, No. 30, Jalan Sultan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur for Tun Eusoff Chin. I bought the handphone and brought to Dato V K Lingam’s office.

Then one day in 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to go to Dato K L Rekhraj’s house to collect the completed application form from the former judge. I went personally to Dato K L Rekhraj’s house. Dato K L Rekhraj had filled up his wife’s particulars but he signed his name on the application form. Then he told me that he wants a special telephone number for his wife. I told him to call Dato V K Lingam. Dato K L Rekhraj called Dato V K Lingam and told Dato V K Lingam that he wants a special number for his wife bearing her year of birth as the last four digit in the telephone number. Dato K L Rekhraj then told me that Dato V K Lingam had agreed. Dato K L Rekhraj then told me to ask Dato V K Lingam to purchase for him two additional batteries.

I went back to Dato V K Lingam’s office and gave him the application form. I asked for the money to purchase the handphone. This is when Dato V K Lingam shouted at me and told me that he cannot be buying handphones for all the judges and ask Jothi (Dato Sivaparanjothi) to pay for Dato K L Rekhraj’s telephone.

10. Delivering a brief case to Dato Low Hop Bing

On or about 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to send an old heavy dark brown briefcase to Dato Low Hop Bing’s house. Dato V K Lingam explained to me that Dato Low Hop Bing had accidentally left the briefcase in Dato V K Lingam’s car (Registration No. CAF 45 Volvo 740). I drove to Dato Low Hop Bing’s house and personally delivered and Dato Low Hop Bing was waiting for me.

11. Delivering documents and handphones to Dato Mokhtar Sidin

On or about 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to drive him to Dato Mokhtar Sidin’s house. He was carrying some documents. I waited outside the house while Dato V K Lingam went inside the house to discuss with Dato Mokhtar Sidin. About 30 minutes later, Dato V K Lingam came back empty handed.

Sometime in 1996, I was instructed to deliver a new handphone which was purchased from Mutiara Telecommunication to Mokhtar’s house. I asked him if it was Tan Sri Mokhtar Abdullah. Dato V K Lingam lost his cool and yelled at me and told me that he had already delivered the handphone to Tan Sri Mokhtar Abdullah and this handphone is for Dato Mokhtar Sidin in Jalan Gurney.

On or about this time, Dato V K Lingam told me to go to Francis Kok Chee Khoon’s house at Section 17, Petaling Jaya. As instructed I went to Francis house. We drove to Dato Mokhtar Sidin’s house. We delivered another two handphones to Dato Mokhtar Sidin’s house. Francis told that he had already delivered two handphones earlier. Altogether Dato Mokhtar Sidin was given five handphones by Dato V K Lingam.

12. Settling handphone bills for the former IGP

On or about March 1996, I was instructed by Dato V K Lingam to settle the former IGP Tan Sri Rahim Noor’s handphone bill. Dato V K Lingam gave me the cash sum.

 

13. Perwaja Investigation

When Dato V K Lingam knew about ACA’s intended raid on his office through Mr Perin Cumarasamy, Dato V K Lingam instructed me to go the Oriental Bank Bhd at Jalan Bukit Bintang to collect five trunches of bank draft each amounting 60,000.00 pounds. I went to the bank, saw the manager and collected the bank drafts. The Manager asked me why are we withdrawing large sums of money all of a sudden. I told him that we are going overseas. A further sum of RM275,000.00 was withdrawn from Dato V K Lingam’s account. I then opened a new account under my name in Public Bank Bhd (Jalan Raja Chulan) and banked this money into the account.

The five bank drafts were made in the name of the following persons:-

a. Mr K Suppiah – Dato V K Lingam’s father in law.

b. Datin Gnanajothy – Dato V K Lingam’s wife.

c. Mr Rajandram Velupillai – Dato V K Lingam’s brother

d. Dato V K Lingam

e. Myself, Thirunamakarasu Velupillai.

All five of us went to London with the bank drafts. In London both Dato V K Lingam and myself opened an account in Scotia Bank and banked in the sum of 60,000.00 pounds into each of the account. As for my account, 55,000 pounds was placed under fixed deposit and 5,000.00 pound was placed under current account.

Leaving Dato V K Lingam’s firm

On or about June 1996, Tan Sri Vincent Tan’s secretary came to Dato V K Lingam’s office and asked him to acknowledge a payment cheque for RM500,000.00. Dato V K Lingam did not have a pen on him. He then asked my sister Chinmaya Devi to get him a pen. She got him a pen and gave it to Dato V K Lingam. When Dato V K Lingam used the pen, it so happened that the pen did not write. Dato V K Lingam became angry and threw the pen at my sister. I was there. I quietly gave him my pen and looked at him in the eye. Though I was angry I remained silent as it had happened a number times.

That night I went to Dato V K Lingam’s house. I spoke to Dato V K Lingam about his mistreatment of my sister. Dato V K Lingam became angry. He told me that is the way he operates and no one can question him. He then told me not to come to his office again. So I left and never went back to his office. I was there only for a period six (6) months.

About 1 am he came to my house with Dato Sivaparanjothi and asked me to return the Perwaja files which was kept in my house since 1995. I told him that I would not give him the files. He then promised to allow me to keep the 60,000 pounds which was banked into my account in Scotia bank in London. I did not agree. The next morning my brother Dato Sivaparanjothi and my sister Kanakalashimi came to my house and asked me for the files. I refused to give them and I told them that I would speak to Dato V K Lingam.

Dato V K Lingam gave a call to my house and told me that 60,000 pounds which was already in my account in Scotia Bank, London is for me if I return the files. I then agreed. Dato Sivaparanjothi and Panjaratnam came to my house in the afternoon and collected all the files ie about 140 files.

Three days later Dato Sivaparanjothi and Kanakalashimi came to my house and told me that Tan Sri Vincent Tan is asking back the 60,000.00 pounds or else he will send some gangsters. I insisted that Dato V K Lingam had already given me the money. Dato Sivaparanjothi then threatened me that the police would arrest me if Tan Sri Vincent Tan makes a report. I was frightened and I told them I would speak to Dato V K Lingam. I then called Dato V K Lingam. Then Dato V K Lingam also told me that it was Tan Sri Vincent Tan’s money.

He then wanted me to go with Kanakalashimi to Nova Scotia Bank in Jalan Raja Chulan to withdraw the money. On 4 July 1996, Kanakalashimi gave me a letter which required me to transfer the 60,000.00 pounds to Dato V K Lingam’s account.

In December 1996, when I went to check if the money is still in my account, I found out that it was transferred out of my account.

Subsequent events

My encounter with Malaysian Lawyers

Sometime in March/April 1997, I went to see Mr Tommy Thomas at the Bar Council when he was then the Honorary Secretary of the Bar Council. I told him the full details of the corrupt practices and corruption practiced by Dato V K Lingam with the judges and the then Attorney General the late Tan Sri Mokhtar Abdullah. I spent many hours with Mr Tommy Thomas relating my six (6) months experience with Dato V K Lingam.

Mr Tommy Thomas took me to see Mr Karpal Singh who was then counsel acting for him in the defamation suit filed by Dato V K Lingam. Mr Karpal Singh wanted to see the documents but refused to see me.

In mid 1997, I met Dato Param Cumaraswamy who was then with United Nations and I related to him all the corrupt practices and corruption by Dato V K Lingam and the judges.

Around October/November 1997, Mr Tommy Thomas referred me to see Raphael Pura of Asian Wall Street Journal and I also related to Raphael Pura all the corrupt practices and corruption by Dato V K Lingam and the judges. Raphael Pura brought me to see Dato Shafee Abdullah at his house in Jalan Duta.

My encounter with Dato’ Shafee

I once again related to Dato’ Shafee all the corrupt practices and corruption by Dato V K Lingam and the judges and told him that I knew about the New Zealand holiday trip between Dato V K Lingam and Tun Eusoff Chin and their respective family. I also showed Dato Shafee the travel manifest (which is now marked as C54) which was together with the Perwaja file. I also informed Dato Shafee that I have seen the infamous photograph of Dato V K Lingam with Tun Eusoff Chin. Although I did not have a copy, I knew that it was in Dato V K Lingam’s album kept in his master bedroom. I told Dato Shafee about this. A few months later this photograph surfaced in the internet.

Dato Shafee took a statement from me in the presence of Tuan Haji Sulaiman Abdullah and En Mohd Ariff.

I had some documents with me which Dato Shafee had wanted. I refused to give him this documents but instead I sent the documents to a mail box in London.

My intention was to give these document to Dato Shafee after he resolved my 60,000.00 pounds.

My trip to London

Sometime on 11 December 1997, Dato Shafee bought a plane ticket for my younger brother and myself to travel to London. Dato Shafee came with us. Dato Shafee told me that we are all going to London to resolve the issue on 60,000.00 pounds in Scotia Bank, London. We stayed in Howard Hotel at The Strand in London. The following day, Dato Shafee brought me for breakfast and I met two lawyers namely Mr Stuart Karle ( lawyer for Dow Jones) and Mr Robert Sachs (a USA lawyer and author of book entitled “Defamation Suit”). Dato Shafee told me that he would handle my 60,000.00 pounds issue, if I gave a statement to the lawyers in another hotel. I told Dato Shafee that he had promised to handle the banking matter in London first and thereafter I would sign a statement.

We then went to Station Hotel at London Bridge where I was introduced to Mr Geoffrey Robertson, Mr Mark Stephson and Mr Louis Bloom-Cooper and some unknown reporters. Mr Robertson told me to repeat, in London, whatever I have told Dato Shafee in Malaysia with regards to Dato V K Lingam and the judiciary in Malaysia. I did not give a statement on the advice of Rajandran, my younger brother, though I had wanted to give the statement.

Events after I came back from London

When I came back from London, Dato Sivaparanjothi asked me to come and see him. To my surprise all my siblings (excluding Rajandran) were there. Dato V K Lingam started crying and said he wanted to hang himself because I revealed his activities with the judges. Dato V K Lingam promised to give me back the 60,000.00 pounds including settling my housing loan with TNB in full and he also agreed to pay me my backdated salary and he also told me he would pay for my services in taking care of his house at No. 2, Jalan SS 1/38, Kg. Tunku, if I don’t go and see Dato Shafee and the other lawyers again. He also threatened me that Tan Sri Vincent Tan would send his gangsters but that he had reassured Tan Sri Vincent Tan not to “touch” me because this is a family problem.

Dato V K Lingam’s trip with me to London

Dato V K Lingam took me to London to get the documents. One of the documents Dato V K Lingam was interested in was the travel manifest. In this travel document the name of Tan Sri Eusoff Chin, Puan Sri Rosaini and V K Lingam was there. I then came back to Malaysia.

Signing of Statutory Declaration

On 22/23 December 1997, I was told by my brother Dato Sivaparanjothi that Dato Shafee is coming after me and I need to be kept in a safe place. He also said my family is in danger. He drove me to Dato V K Lingam’s house. Dato V K Lingam repeated the threat. Dato Sivaparanjothi took me to Hotel Value Inn (Klang) as they wanted me to sign a Statutory Declaration saying that whatever I told Dato Shafee, Tommy Thomas, Raphael Pura and Dato’ Param Cumarasamy is not true.

Dato Sivaparanjothi and Dato V K Lingam forced me to go and see Dato Seri Mahadevan and asked me to pretend that I am mentally ill. I was made to stay in this hotel for three days. Then I was forced to sign a Statutory Declaration. I was taken to a Commissioner for Oaths one Mr Singam. I did not want to sign as I had not read it. Mr Satchianandan prevented me from reading the Statutory Declaration. The Commissioner of Oaths was paid RM500.00 by Mr Satchianandan.

I requested for a copy from Mr Satchianandan but he refused to give me the copy. Till today I do not know what is the contents of the Statutory Declaration. I understand that Dato Sivaparanjothi has two copies of this Statutory Declaration but he refused to give me.

Dato V K Lingam’s threat

In early January 1998., I was in the midst of preparing my own Statutory Declaration as I did not know the contents of the Statutory Declaration which I was forced to sign earlier. My brother, Rajandran, helped me to prepare the Statutory Declaration ( the second statutory declaration).

I was frightened to go and see any lawyers about the Statutory Declaration because of Dato V K Lingam’s influence in the legal circle.

Around 23 February 1998, Dato Sivaparanjothi and Panjaratnam came to my house. They told me that people are looking for me and that Dato Shafee has made a report against me. They told me to be careful as my family is in danger.

Around late February / early March 1998, Dato V K Lingam came to my house and picked me up and on the way he asked me whether I was the one who had given Dato Shafee the pictures of the New Zealand trip. I denied giving the pictures and that is the truth.

I was taken to a restaurant in Sea Park. In that restaurant Kanakalashimi was present. I was threatened by Dato V K Lingam that the ACA would be coming to my house. I was warned by Dato V K Lingam not to tell the ACA anything and I do something would happen to me. He told that Dato Shafee had informed the ACA about my statement given to Dato Shafee earlier. Dato V K Lingam wanted to send me to India to hide there. Kanakalashimi asked me to grow a beard and be a hermit in India. I told them I can’t leave my family. My brother Dato V K Lingam told me to go and see Dato Seri Dr Mahadevan, the psychiatrist, again. I refused and again argued that he had failed to keep his promise to give me the 60,000.00 pounds. They said ACA would come after me.

ACA presence in my house

On 8 March 1998, ACA officers came to my house even though I have never made a report to ACA. They took me for questioning. Two officers questioned me about the corrupt practices of Dato V K Lingam and the judges and the IGP. They wanted me to give a statement because I had told certain things to Dato Shafee, Tommy Thomas. On 9 March 1998, I gave a first statement to the ACA. The recording officer was En Sazali. When he was taking down the statement a phone call comes. If the person on the other line tells something eg. Did you give a bag to Dato Low Hop Bing, En Sazali would ask me that question. I gave the statement that I gave to Dato Shafee.

After giving the statement, on 9 March 1998, I was taken by the ACA officers to my CIMB Bank (PJ New Town) safe deposit box. I took out some documents and gave it to ACA officers. I gave a black diary to the ACA officers. In this black diary, I had the handphone number of Tun Eusoff Chin and Dato K L Rekhraj. I also stated in this diary that I had sent a brief case to Dato Low Hop Bing. I had also written in the diary that I had gone looking for two plots of land for Tun Eusoff Chin. I had also written in the diary about the Perwaja Investigation.

My sister Kanakalashimi was shocked when she knew that I had told the truth to ACA. She broke down. Upon speaking to Dato V K Lingam, she asked me to go and see one Dr David and to act as though I am mentally unstable. This Dr David then would give me a letter to see Dr Devadass, a psychiatrist.

On 10 March 1988 I went to see Dr David who then referred to Dr Devadass. I then went to see Dr Devadass. I went to see Dr Devadass by motorcycle. Kanakalashimi then asked me to go and see Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan. I went to Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan by motorcycle. I told him that Datuk V K Lingam wanted me to see him. Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan, asked me why I had given a statement to ACA. Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan wanted to know what I had told the ACA. I repeated myself. Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan referred to my brother as a “pariah fellow”. Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan said that he had heard about Datuk V K Lingam corrupting judges but did not know to this extent. He also said that he did not know how to classify me as a mad person. His words were, “ I was not mad but bad”. He said that he did not see me as being suicidal. He took me to Polo Club. If anyone asks, he would say that he was preventing me from committing suicide. Dato Seri Dr Mahadevan told me not to give anymore statements to ACA. He also advised me to listen to what Datuk V K Lingam and my sister Kanakalashimi tells me.

When I came back home, Kanakalashimi then told me to go back to the ACA office and make a second statement that I was forced to make the earlier statement and that an ACA officer assaulted me.

On 11 March 1988, Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan told me if I am admitted I must inform the hospital that in 1982, 1983 and 1984 I came to see him and that I was suicidal because of the break up in the love affair. He told me that during these years, he was still in practice in General Hospital, Kuala Lumpur.

On 12 March 1988, ACA officers came to my house and took me to their officer. One Mr Wong questioned me. I told Mr Wong that I want to make a second statement. I told Mr Wong that the first statement was not true. I told Mr Wong that one ACA officer assaulted me. Then En Razak allowed me to make a second statement. In my second statement I denied going to Tun Eusoff Chin’s house. I told them that whatever I told Dato Shafee was also not true. On 12 March 1988, I was made to take a polygraphic lie detector test. During my second statement, my sister told the ACA that I had not taken my medication. They then remanded me for 6 days ie 12 March 1998 to 17 March 1998 I was detained. I was taken to Taman Tun Dr Ismail police lockup. My cellmate was Mr Rungit Singh, the former Sessions Court Judge.

Then the ACA officer came to the cell and wanted me to show all the judges house and I did. I showed all the houses of the judges except Datuk Mokhtar Sidin because ACA officer did not want to take me there as it was too far. I showed them the Angel Cake House, the house that Dato V K Lingam wanted to give as a gift to Tun Eusoff Chin. The Director of ACA Dato Safee Bin Yahya told me that my second statement is not believable as it was “childish”.

On 17 March 2008 I made a third statement to En Razak. In this statement I gave a detailed statement to En Razak agreeing to my 1st statement. ACA director commended me.

My release from ACA detention

On 17 March 1988, I was released from ACA detention. Kanakalashimi took me back to her house at Sea Park. When I told my sister about my third statement, she was upset. She sent me back to my house. She called Dato V K Lingam.

On 18 March 1998, she took me to see Mr C. Vijayakumar . I did not want to go there. She forced me to go and see Mr C Vijayakumar. He asked me to come over to his house the following day. The following day, my sister left me in Dato C Vijayakumar’s house. I was taken to a hotel in Jalan Masjid India by Mr C Vijaykumar’s driver. I was kept there for one day. Kanakalashimi then wanted me to go to Ipoh and stay with a friend there. I went to Ipoh and two days later I came back. I went back to my sister’s house in Sea Park. My sister again took me to see Mr C Vijayakumar’s house. I was taken to Armada Hotel on 22 March 1998.

My encounter with Dato Vijayakumar, Dato Sithambaram and Dato Kumaraendran in Armada Hotel.

At the hotel all the three lawyers were there. Kanakalashimi was also there. The three lawyers wanted me to go back to the ACA and tell them a different story. I told them that I do not want to do that. They told me that they were sent by Dato V K Lingam to talk to me and solve this problem. We will collect all the money from Dato V K Lingam and give it to you and we will open a business for you. Mr Vijayakumar said that he will be one of the corporate partners. I still refused. They wanted me to write to ACA that my 1st and 3rd statement is not true but the 2nd statement is true. I refused. I was asked to move to another room. C. Vijayakumar met me alone. The other two lawyers were in the other room together with Kanakalashimi. C. VIjayakumar told me that the ACA was looking for me and would rearrest me. He also said that they would put me in the lockup and there would be homosexuals who would play my back. He also said that they would ask me to do a blow job. He also asked if I wanted to see Datuk V K Lingam and me go to jail. He told me that my family was in danger and kept threatening me. Dato Kumaraendran then came in with Dato Sithambaram. Dato Kumaraendran told me to write down what I told the ACA in the three statements. Dato Sithambaram told me to add in that the ACA officers assaulted me. I started writing. The three lawyers would come in once a while and take away whatever I had written. I was not allowed to leave the room at all. I wrote about 79 to 81 pages. I was told to say that En Razak threatened me. They kept threatening me. They said that I am also to be blamed for corrupting the judges. They asked me to get admitted in Hospital Bahagia for two years. They told me that once I am there, everything would be taken care of. I don’t have to work anymore for the rest of my life. Dato Kumaraendran told me that they have freed people accused of crimes and can even get a murderer out of jail. There was an incident where a religious officer shot a police officer in a khalwat case and this person was acquitted. He said they can handle ACA if I can write this letter that they wanted me to write. They said that Dato V K Lingam has a lot of money. They said that I was in a big mess. Dato Vijayakumar bought me a book titled “Dare to fail”. Then Mr John Gomez came. I told him that I am tired and I had spoken the truth. John Gomez told me to speak the truth. Dato Kumaraendran told John Gomez to leave.

On the evening of 22nd March 1998, they came back and asked me what Datuk Seri Dr Mahadevan told. They asked me to go and see this doctor again. They asked me to “steal” this report from him. I refused. Then they asked me to see Dr Devadass. Then Dato Sithambaram aksed me to act and make sure that he gives a referral letter.

On 23rd March 1998, the three lawyers came back. They spoke to me and told me no matter what I have to get admitted to University Hospital. I was asked to put up an act. Dato Sithambaram asked to scratch my hair, untie my shoe lace, use a torn shirt and not to let my wife know that I am putting up an act. I had to agree as I was in Armada Hotel for more than 24 hours. They then asked me to initial the 81 pages in front of my sister Kanakalashimi. I initialed it. They told me that they would handle the ACA. The ACA is frightened of them. Dato V K Lingam can buy the ACA.

On 26th March 1998, Kanakalashimi took me to see Dr Devadass. She told me not to speak to the doctor about the ACA investigation. Dr Devadass gave a referral letter to be admitted in University Hospital. I went with my wife in a taxi. Dr Bharaty admitted me in the hospital. Kanakalashimi would come everyday to visit and advise me what to tell and what not to tell the doctors.

At one time, she told me that he doctor is becoming is suspicious that I am not mentally ill and ask me to put up a better show that I am mentally ill. She wanted me to act suicidal. On one night I took a cloth twisted it and went to a bathroom and tied me to the bed. Dr Bharathy told my sister that they have to give me electric shock. I was discharged a few days later. When my sister knew I was discharged, she was extremely angry. She was angry that I did not want to go to Hospital Bahagia. She told Dato C Vijayakumar. Dato C Vijayakumar wanted me to be readmitted. I was transferred to General Hospital. In General Hospital, one Dr Shamala checked me. I was admitted in General Hospital.

Finally I told my sister Kanakalashimi that I can’t act to be a mental patient anymore. My wife then realized the real story and she became very angry. She shouted at my sister. That was my final admission in General Hospital.

By that time I accumulated 511 tablets from the three doctors. I gave all of these tablets to Dato Shafee Abdullah.

Now it has come to my knowledge that Dato C VIjayakumar had written a letter dated 14 April 1998 to the Director General of ACA Dato Shafee bin Yahya that he was acting for me and that I was undergoing treatment for advanced state of depression. I have never appointed Dato C Vijayakumar to act for me at all. A copy of the letter was given to me by my sister Kanakalashimi. A few days later Dato C Vijayakumar demanded this letter back.

Name : Thirunama Karasu A/L Kandar Velupillai

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written by Mr Smith, January 21, 2008 15:18:57
This a bomb, man!
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written by Spear Bing, January 21, 2008 15:31:00
Habis wayang lah semua! The ACA can be bought! Well known Muslim lawyer also involved. See the frailty and weakness of the human kind? 60,000 pounds is alot of money nowadays. This is the judiciary scandal of the century!.

For sure his 'korek, korek, korek,' brother will submit his own version of the evidence- the psychiatric testimony. His legal brain will never cease to amaze the legal community. Let's see how far he can stretch his imagination and prove to the RC that he is korek, korek, korek and his 'gila' brother wrong.
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written by ez24get, January 21, 2008 15:42:10
If Thirunama can furnish such immaculate details as to the time, dates and names it shows that he is not mad and there are definately truth in his statements. It appears that he spilled the beans because of the ill treatment by his brother, VK Lingam and the 60,000 pounds which they took from him.

In history, the downfall of many high profile personalities were through the spilling of beans by the fallout with close associates such as wife, brothers, best friends or for that matter, the beans counters keeping the shady accounts. If one is doing something dishonest, he will have to face the retribution sooner or later.

Whatever the reasons Thirunama decided to spin the beans, the whole matter shows that many of the judges are on the take and corrupt to the core! That's the reason why there have been absurd and questionable decisions made by the judges in favour of the the rich and powerful. Even foreigners like Wall Street Journals, Asia Weekly, etc have found their cases decided in favour of you-know-whos.

This is an account of just one man running errands for his brother; can you imagine the depth of corruption of the judiciary on countless other cases?

The terms of reference for the Royal Commission on the Lingam case is narrowly restricted to the persons mentioned in the tape like Fairuz and Eusoff Chin. What about other judges who are given handphones, bills settlement, perks and brief cases of ? which they "accidentally" left behind?

There should be another royal commission to look into the corruption of judges as a whole and not just restricted to the persons mentioned in the tape! It's still not too late to return the judiciary to the former days of glory!
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written by Presiden Mesia, January 21, 2008 15:52:19
bukti macamana lagi RC nak...
kalu bukti ni pun tak pandang tak taulah...
bubarkan saja RC...
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written by supplier, January 21, 2008 17:45:14
The people had demanded that the appointment of Judges be independant instead by ONMU and PM. What has the NAZI have to say and also the appointed president of Court of Appeal who was a Legal Adviser in UNMO. Tan Sri Vencent Tan created history by becoming the first person to be adwarded millions of dollars in the lawsuit.Wonder the money adwarded were shared by certain people.
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written by the saint, January 21, 2008 18:50:44
TDM said our judiciary is not corrupted !! Eat your heart out TDM ! Somehow, some of the dates in this statement do not correspond.
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written by Jebat2020, January 21, 2008 18:56:52
Guys, this is only the beginning...more to come...let's wait for the next episode.

Everything will be revealed before the GE.

If the people still give their votes to BN, I could not say more what type of human living in Malaysia!
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written by bayan, January 21, 2008 19:36:54
If Tirunama Karasu can give detail accaunt of the date , nonths and years ,how come theese two big shot Dr.Mahathir and Yusof Chin does not remember anything . Maybe they are Melayu mudah lupa .
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written by Dogboy, January 21, 2008 19:39:24
The beans are about to be split. Let's see Lingam's reply. You might think brilliant lawyer can get himslef out of this shithole but he will be similar to Mahathir and Eusoff Chin, hiding like cowards and muttering "I sudah lupa" on every second word.
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written by casper, January 21, 2008 19:45:03
Excellent stuff Karasu and all this brought to life just because Loh Gwo Burne had a camera.

What we have here is a full disclosure of the legal profession at its worst. And that Vinnie Tan is a THUG.

Karasu's statement under oath(at last count there were three(3) with the second nullified by ACA themselves) brings together all prominent names in the legal profession, conniving to work together for a fee or bring down an adversary when necessary(Shafee agst Lingam).

Karasu's many statement goes to great lengths to illustrate the incestious relation between big business and the judiciary. Vinnie Tan through the years had won verdicts despite the odds and evidence presented just because he had the judge in hand all along.

MGG Pillai is surely laughing himself blue up in the skies above and Raphael Putra might yet see justice done having been sued off his pants by Vinnie and Lingam. More importantly judgement rendered by the cast of unscrupulous judges mentioned in Karasu's declaration needs to be reviewed wholesale as there is evidence aplenty that justice has been compromised.

After today, panel members would wished they had never taken up the appointment but it is all too late now. Haidar has been known to wave a magic wand but not this time round just because Loh Gwo Burne has it all down on camera.

What next Haidar ? Having put up with all the lies from Eusoff Chin and not flinching when the devil himself slithered in and out of court(panel members deserve a medal each for bravery) in full defiance and all the while, Badawi and SIL laughing at the expense of the old man summoned to attend a kangaroo court.

There is much on Haidar's plate to what conclusion ????
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written by bayan, January 21, 2008 19:57:24
Ini cerita sangat bagus kalau di buat filem . Bagi sama Steven Spilberg ,cerita skendal hakim hakim ini tentu jadi box office . Kalau made in Malaysia filem ini tak laku ,kena made in Holywood.
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written by temenggong, January 21, 2008 22:34:57
Rekraj, Gopal, Sriram, Sivaparanjothi, Francis Kok, 5 handphones to Sidin, Manjit, Thayalan, Rahim Noor, Kanagalakshmi, Satchianandan, Sazali, Dr. Mahadevan, Dr. Dass, even Sithampram formerly of the Hindu Youth Organisation... so many of them.

Yeah, bomb, man!

I wonder if the Royal Commision is going to appoint Investigate Auditors to check all those banks accounts and transfers of money!

Wee Cho Keong gave the Commission their chance, and they blew it. So he went public. Take all these guys in for three days and more than one will spill their beans. And what makes anyone think that Haidar is not part of the web?

Wait, there is a Part 2 to this. More Guo Burnes' will be coming out of the closet.

So Badass tried to contain this by limiting the terms of reference of the commission, eh? Well, see what happens to you next!
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written by The dragonheart, January 22, 2008 00:12:48
hahaha... RC akan kata "ini semua tak releven, kanai nak meyiasat kesahihan clip itu je".
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written by rocky, January 22, 2008 01:48:16
wow!!! why didn't ACA act then on such a big case? Only one reason IMHO, Dr.M. sigh.

our judiciary is screwed big time. handphone also need people to buy. they could have been bugged for all you know. The buggers are confident their numbers are not traceable...ACA can't even get Lingam's number. Apa punya ACA..acah je.
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written by johanssm, January 22, 2008 05:56:45
Its no wonder that Lingam accuses his brother Karasu is a "mad" man.

Karasu is indeed loaded with infos.
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written by Harbinger, January 22, 2008 16:22:11
Now it looks like more than two plots of land are needed to bury all these crooks and outright liars once and for all....
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written by Tingkat14, January 23, 2008 13:19:45
It looks like Lingam is more powerful than the PM.
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