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Wednesday, 05 November 2008 09:39

MUSINGS By MARINA MAHATHIR in The Star

Even if we don’t have all the religious knowledge, we still have a conscience. And it tells what is right and what is wrong.

EARLIER this year I attended a workshop by two female Indonesian Islamic scholars. It is rare that I would leave such a workshop feeling good but this one left me feeling energised and empowered.

These two women undoubtedly had all the religious educational credentials. They knew their Quran and hadiths thoroughly.

But what was different was that they were able to apply their knowledge to real-life situations and were able to see how misinterpretations can lead to injustices, the very opposite of what Islam intends.

In the course of the workshop, they were asked about the frequent criticism thrown at people like me who are critical of religious scholars who pronounce unjust edicts. Apparently, I am not allowed to criticize because I never studied at a religious institution, am female and don’t cover my head.

The two women scholars had a very simple answer to that: even if we don’t have all the knowledge, we still have a conscience. So if something feels wrong, it probably is.

We are all given a conscience which acts like an internal compass, which tells us what is right and what is wrong. Regardless of what religion we profess, our conscience tells us the same things. This is why nobody can say that killing is ever right, for instance.

Thus, when certain people claim that women hold a lesser position in the eyes of God, you know in your heart that that cannot be right.

Similarly, with other claims that just don’t sit right in your conscience, the ones that ensure that certain people are discriminated against, or are just unfair; you know that they cannot possibly be right in a religion that places justice and equality front and centre.

Of late, there have been several religious issues that have been greeted with howls of protest by people of conscience. Yet there are others who say that such pronouncements must never be questioned because ‘highly intelligent and expert’ people make them.

How one knows this is questionable, since the process of passing fatwas is hardly transparent.

When questioned why there are no fatwas on corruption and other contemporary blights on society, the response is that these things are in the Quran and ‘everyone’ already knows they are haram. If that were so, then why is it that corruption is so rampant?

I accept that fatwas are to clarify things that are unclear. But that unclear nature means that it is open to interpretation that, in turn, is subject to human fallibility.

Contemporary issues that did not exist in the time of Prophet Mohamed are not mentioned in the Quran. Therefore, modern religious scholars have to transpose Quranic guidance onto these issues, a process that is fraught with danger, not least because contemporary issues are often complicated and require sophisticated research.

You have to wonder about priorities, however. What endangers a society more; corrupt citizens and leaders or yoga practitioners and females who dress in a masculine fashion?

Yet there are so many of us who are unwilling to trust our own conscience and would prefer to trust the robed and the turbaned to make rulings on things which we should be able to judge on our own.

We do have choices, and we make our choices by listening to our conscience. Yet there are so many who say that we should not question any such rulings, even when our conscience tells us that they cannot be just.

We never seem to wonder why is it there are no positive fatwas at all, those that tell us that we can do something rather than forbidding us. It does not take much thought to simply forbid every contemporary challenge; it takes much more intelligence to encourage people to move forward and face them by themselves.

Sometimes it seems that we believe ourselves to be babies who constantly need our hands to be held so that we don’t fall. Yet it is when we fall that we learn how to stabilise ourselves and learn to walk properly.

At the moment, we can hardly breathe for fear of finding ourselves on the path to hell. What a great atmosphere to grow in.

If we need fatwas to clarify, then perhaps we should have the National Fatwa Council make a ruling on the following: And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice. (Surah An-Nisa 4:3)

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written by CPY, November 05, 2008 09:48:48
Even if we don’t have all the religious knowledge, we still have a conscience

Correct, Correct, Correct! Tell this to ur dad!
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written by Alice, November 05, 2008 09:58:22
Charity begins at home. Start with your daddy!
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written by temenggong, November 05, 2008 10:37:24
The one thing religionists fail to understand is that the conscience is the voice of the soul, the voice God! 'That' is the 'thing' that is closer to us than our jugular vein, the inner kingdom of god, that if you seek ye shall find, knock and it shall open, that is beyond and supercedes any religious holy book!
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written by sonofman0, November 05, 2008 10:58:24
Thank you, Marina Mahathir. It takes courage to write an article of this nature. I am glad I had the opportunity to read it.
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written by anak penang, November 05, 2008 12:50:05
If i have millions of dollars in my account given to me by my father i can move and talk with a great deal of confidence and poise.

give back the money marina
writing some articles supposedly to be open minded still makes you a thief.
Damn it give back the money to the rakyat
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written by Frankie,BSD, November 05, 2008 15:25:54
Dear Marina,
Yes, of all women in Malaysia, you are the most down to earth, humane and posseses a 'lot of commonsense' - qualities that put to shame a vast majority of Malaysians!
Your views and stance over the the years should by right have a major impact on the conduct and "way of life" but unfortunately, our 'herd mentality', greed and 'tidak apa' attitude override our 'commonsense' and we, Malaysians, continue to wallow in the the same 'mud' that they did not have the courage to clean up until today!
When you have unfeeling 'BIGOTS' to lead our nation and along the way lose our direction and failed miserably economically, politically and socially, do we NOT want to CHANGE?
Yet we are staring at the same "bigots" in another form taking over in the near future! I am really flabbergasted at the lack of commonsense of the 'people' who can decide.
Well,Marina, its all up to you.Together with Zaid Ibrahim, Dr. Mohd Asri (Mufti of Perlis),Musa Bakri, Azly Rahman,Haris Ibrahim, please tell KTK that its time to make Gerakan a truly representative Malaysian Party and with political partners from Borneo, WE can make all Malysians proud again and we can take our long overdue but rightful place as a leading Nation of the world!

A caring NGO on family issues
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written by cruzeiro, November 05, 2008 17:08:32
If Malaysians all spoke Malay & never came in contact with the English language, what word would they use to describe "conscience"?

Language gives voice to ideas & concepts. Without such a word in a language, such a concept is at times, difficult to grasp - more so for the "uneducated" (I don't mean "unschooled", mind you). Maybe that is the predicament faced by many "Malaysians" ...
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written by AsamLaksa, November 05, 2008 17:54:44
It is only with some Malaysian Muslims where I am not allowed to discuss Islam. Muslims of other nationality have no trouble discussing it with me. When we hit a patch where our views are different we simply acknowledged the differences. Why do I discuss Islam anyway? Well, for my personal knowledge. I have discussed other faiths with others too. I have criticised other beliefs too. Not because I want to poke fun or tear down anyone's beliefs but rather to test my values of right and wrong.

Anyway, what is the problem with Malaysians in general? I don't know. However I can say perhaps it is this fear that have been planted in the minds of many Malaysians over the years that to question some issues is wrong/forbidden and thus they ended up not questioning those issues and much more. If you surround yourself with taboos or "sensitive issues" you will dumb down your conscience end up losing your ability to question. I believe everyone should be able to question anything.

By the way, Marina, when I first heard the full text of the quote above years ago, I thought that was funny because it never set a limit of 4 wives. I read it as you could have as many as you like as long as you can treat them all fairly. What matters is not the numbers but justice. But hey I'm no Islamic scholar.

For those who are hostile against Marina, take note that TDM and Marina are two difference individuals. Has Marina acted wrongly to begin with?
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written by borneoman, November 05, 2008 20:13:37
Marina please tell ask your dad why did he allow taib to plunder sarawak.
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written by chiongguo, November 05, 2008 21:50:40
There are two conscient. One is conditioned by our upbringing, our past-life, our experiences, our religious teachings and our intelligence. This is what most of us have. In this conscient right and wrong, good and bad are rationalised rather than felt right at the very core of our being. The second comes from quietude. No word nor concepts should arise. If it does then it is not our inner conscient.

The first conscient is where we do our bartering with our ego - our false self. It is the ego's self-defence mechanism. The second conscient needs no argumentation. One word is one word too many.

What does your conscient say about HIV as the cause of AIDS ? Look up www.aliveandwell.org. What you are promoting is causing more harm than good and you know it. Why ? Is the funding you are getting over-rides all other consideration such as truth ?



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written by The Hammer, November 06, 2008 00:40:03
Everyone who is born in this world irrespective of country race, gender, rich or poor were born with innocent consciene. I say innocent because we are not guilty yet of any wrong doing untill that individual depending on his grasp with the world comes face to face with reality. Then his conscience will guide him or her. It is an inborn guidance which speaks to differiant a lie and truth, figh or peace etc. It is render numb when it is"seared" repeatly over and over again.
The following verse taken from the BIBLE about conscience:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one anothersmilies/wink.gif
1Tim 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Heb 13:18 Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.
That is why Jesus said in this verse
Mt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
As mentione above Jesus wants us to have that innocent conscience before we are allowed into heaven. A child like atitude! Innocent and devoid of all those worldly and selfish atitude!.
So Marina; if you want to how to continue in this spiritual awakening, why not seek the Author of it! Conscience is from God and is of GoD! Only God can activate and rejuvenate it!
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