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Thursday, 16 October 2008 09:15

KUALA LUMPUR: While not really being surprised, Hindraf leaders, however, expressed regret that their hopes to continue fighting for Indians community have been dashed.

V. Papparaidu, the brother of V. Ganabatirau, one of the five Hindraf leaders being detained under the Internal Security Act, urged the government to review its decision.

"Our struggle has brought some good to the community."

He said during his recent visit to the Kamunting detention centre, he was told by the Hindraf 5 that there was a move to outlaw their movement.

"Vasantha Kumar told me that there were some within the movement who had used Hindraf for their own ends."

He was referring to the gathering at the cabinet ministers' Hari Raya open house on Oct 1 where some 300 Hindraf members caused a stir when they turned up, clad in orange T-shirts.

Hindraf national coordinator, R.S. Thanenthiran did not want to comment on the ban. He said their leader, London-based P. Waythamoorthy would be issuing a full statement today.

The following are more reactions:

* Prof Emeritus Tan Sri Dr Khoo Kay Kim, Historian:
“It’s a difficult situation. In the first place, they are not legal and as such, shouldn’t be making so much noise. Secondly, they are not clear what they are fighting for. When historians study them in the future, they will be able to better judge the truth behind Hindraf’s many statements.”

* Ragunath Kesavan, Bar Council Malaysia vice-chairman:
“Making them illegal will not make the problem go away. It’s important to address the issues raised by Hindraf, not Hindraf itself. Hindraf only became prominent because it championed the issues facing Indians. The MIC has been registered for over 50 years and Hindraf has been around for only two, but they took up the Indians’ problems.”

* Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, Transparency International Malaysia president:
“You can ban an organisation but not an idea. It’s a step backwards for the country because it will discourage thinking and open debate, both of which are crucial to sustainable democracy. This strikes at the heart of the increased democracy the government has championed over the last few years.”

* Tan Sri Abu Zahar Ujang, President Council of Former People’s Representatives:
“Their activities all this while have not been in accordance with the rule of law. They should not take the law into their own hands as it is not good for harmony in the country. “I’m afraid for our future generations and just want to see everybody living in peace and tolerance. Let’s look at things with more wisdom and not so narrow an angle. Live and let live.”

- nst

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written by mountain man, October 16, 2008 09:21:57
Utusan should be ban for reporting lies and twisting facts, outright threat to national security, but they enjoy immunity because they are the mouthpiece of UMNO. Sure Hindraf can be fully recognized if they decide to cooperate with MIC and listen to UMNO. This is what UMNO politics is all about, betul-betul pariah.
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written by truthbespoken, October 16, 2008 09:37:44
The UMNO government’s actions through Botak Syed are all the time very one sided and oppressive. Most Malaysians are feeling pressure-cooked against their will. There are now so much anger and hatred against the UMNO government on the ground. From just commenting, the people have now switched to cursing this corrupted UMNO government.

The people are aggrieved because this biased UMNO government had time and again blatantly closed both eyes and ears to all their members’ racists-battle-cries and open-misdeeds but were quick to take inequitable actions against non-members on their genuine quests for justice! This UMNO government is not a government of the people and for the people! This UMNO government is a very biased one-way-street government for the vindictive, vicious and corrupted UMNOputras!

At this rate, it will surely be a matter of time the ever-aggrieved population will react and rise up together politically in an unpredictable manner! The people’s power is bound to manifest itself in no uncertain terms and create another political tsunami to sweep off this biased, corrupted and unrepentant UMNO regime from further governing the country! MAKKAL SAKTHI! MAKKAL SAKTHI!!!!
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written by eskay, October 16, 2008 09:46:32
Actions should be taken against many parties who have obviously guilty, but just brush aside; while those who wish to voice up the truth & frustration are told to shut up, put in jail. Those in the government should put themselves in foreign investors' shoes, do you dare to invest in such country ? Or our government in charge are still living in the tempurung, thinking the world is as big as what they see,that the world doesn't aware what's going on here ? My goodness, what kind of mentality is that ?
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written by Tompios, October 16, 2008 10:04:54
Government under UMNO is Satan's agent.
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written by SocratesI, October 16, 2008 11:52:12

OPPRESS the RAKYAT at your peril, Unscrupulous Moron Nazis Organization ! Where there is an action, there will be an equal and opposite reaction - immutable Law of Physics still applicable today !

HINDRAF and its SPIRIT will live on in our HEARTS, MINDS, & SOULS forever !! UMNO & Barisan Najis are forever ILLEGAL and the personification of Mephisto in our hearts, souls and minds, too !!



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written by captmarco ramius, October 16, 2008 11:56:03
Dear Brothers and Sisters of Malaysia Today & Makkal Sakthi,

Let's read between the lines here...

Prof Emeritus Tan Sri Dr Khoo Kay Kim, Historian:
“It’s a difficult situation. In the first place, they are not legal and as such, shouldn’t be making so much noise.

VALGHE MAKKAL SAKTHI with our without HINDRAF !!!

1.HINDRAF was formed as an ENTERPRISE in Seremban which was subsequently de-registered in Dec 2007,post 25 Nov 2007 Mass Rally in KL.Who and why they are made ILLEGAL ?.
2.If your places of worship are being blatantly desecrated and demolished,would just keep quiet and not make noise ?.

Secondly, they are not clear what they are fighting for.

1.Ever heard about the 18 Point Memorandum handed over to the prime minister at his office in putrajaya circa 31 Aug 2007 ?.Know your facts before commenting please,mr prof emeritus.

Ragunath Kesavan, Bar Council Malaysia vice-chairman:

Making them illegal will not make the problem go away. It’s important to address the issues raised by Hindraf, not Hindraf itself. Hindraf only became prominent because it championed the issues facing Indians. The MIC has been registered for over 50 years and Hindraf has been around for only two, but they took up the Indians’ problems.”

1. For 50 goddamned year,the Indians toiled for the betterment and development of this country.For what ?.For us to be kept as SLAVES,is it ?.If for 50 years MIC have been claiming that it fought for Indians,why are we not better of ?.What MIC couldn't achieve in 50 years was done by HINDRAF in 1-2 years.
The issues raised are bona fide and requires immediate remedy.Not making the organization illegal and get it over and done with.You can only leave the lid of a pressure cooker on for so long.Eventually it'll explode in your face.

Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, Transparency International Malaysia president:
“You can ban an organisation but not an idea.

1.The fight was fought in accordance to AHIMSA principles.It's this taliban regime turned it into a rebellion.Now HINDRAF is not an organization,society or enterprise.It's THE SPIRIT OF AWAKENING,an INTIFadAH !.How can you ever BAN or DECLARE ILLEGAL a UNITED SPIRIT of AWAKENING.THIS IS MAKKAL SAKTHI !!!.

Tan Sri Abu Zahar Ujang, President Council of Former People’s Representatives:
“Their activities all this while have not been in accordance with the rule of law. They should not take the law into their own hands as it is not good for harmony in the country. “I’m afraid for our future generations and just want to see everybody living in peace and tolerance. Let’s look at things with more wisdom and not so narrow an angle. Live and let live.”

1.When everything was done according to the law,this taliban regime still doesn't take heed.Every single thing was portrayed in bad light by the leaders and the government controlled media.What do you expect them to do ?.Go home,sit in a corner and cry ?.By the same token,Is what the government doing LEGAL ?.False trumped up charges,detention without trial and suppression of peaceful assembly ?.

2.Live and let live ?.All this while you guys are the only ones LIVING, while the Indian populace was left to DIE.

Every right civil minded rakyat is aware of the advances and the need of HINDRAF's struggle.LEGAL or ILLEGAL,BAN or NO BAN...THE STRUGGLE WILL CONTINUE TILL WE SEE A BREAK OF A BRAND NEW DAWN...

MAKKAL SAKTHI SHALL PREVAIL...And ain't nothing anyone can do about it...

VALGHE MAKKAL SAKTHI...with or without HINDRAF...
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written by SeriousLy, October 16, 2008 12:26:22
If HINDRAF is banned because of fighting for Hindu people then....MCA should be banned because fighting for Chinese! MIC should be banned because fighting for Indian! UMNO should be banned because fighting for Malays! PAS should be banned because fighting for Islam! UPKO should be banned because fighting for their race! and so many too! ALL are TOOOOOOOOOO TARGETED TOWARD A CERTAIN SECT OF PEOPLE! smilies/grin.gif
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written by angkasawan bocor, October 16, 2008 14:08:53
“It’s a difficult situation. In the first place, they are not legal and as such, shouldn’t be making so much noise. Secondly, they are not clear what they are fighting for. When historians study them in the future, they will be able to better judge the truth behind Hindraf’s many statements.”


Dr. KKK, please be an ethical and professional historian. Don't be somebody's puppet.
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written by captmarco ramius, October 16, 2008 14:19:03
KKK...yeah right !.That explains it,KU KLUX KLAN
from Pulaski,Tennessee,US of A.
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written by ASK4u, October 16, 2008 15:21:01
they are not legal and as such, shouldn’t be making so much noise

This is a logical fallacy, prof. I don't see the connection between "not legal" and "shouldn’t be making so much noise". Here is another example: The Nazi regime developed the Volkswagen Beetle. Therefore, you should not buy a VW Beetle (Genetic Fallacy). Now see the parallels in this statement by prof KKK: "they are not legal('Nazi') and as such, shouldn’t be making so much noise(should not buy VW Beetle)". One more specially for you prof: All C@**@se are "Pendatng". Pr@f K is C@**@se, therefore Pr@f K is a Pendatng"..Another logical fallacy (Deductive Fallacy). No offense meant, just to help you understand better, Prof. One more, Opposites: Prof K is legal(SUH@k@M is registered), therefore he can make a lot of noise. Ponder Prof. This is your Brain tonic for today.

Secondly, they are not clear what they are fighting for.

What, you have been away to "Alices Wonderland" for the past 1 year. Read their 18 point memo.

When historians study them in the future, they will be able to better judge the truth behind Hindraf’s many statements.”

By than, you'll be "history". smilies/cheesy.gif

Mr Tan Sri Abu Zahar Ujang
As for you, I choose to save my breath. I only engage with 'intellectuals'.
sorry sir.
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