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Sunday, 24 August 2008 11:37

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Datuk Syed Abdyl Rahman Alhabshi started off by saying that the IGP had called him and told him that if Najib ever becomes the Prime Minister then he had better leave the country.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

“Raja ada di mana?”

It was my old friend from the Parti Keadilan Nasional days, Zahid Md Arip, on the line. He did not have to even mention who was calling. His very loud “Sang Terubung Raja Petra Anak Raja Bugis” was a good enough introduction. And there was no mistaking who I was speaking to. Zahid had a certain ‘trademark’ that could almost be patented like the sound of a Harley Davidson exhaust pipe.

“I’m at the Bangsar Shopping Centre,” I replied in Bahasa Malaysia.

“How long are you going to be there?” he asked, also in Bahasa Malaysia.

“Not sure. Maybe another hour or so.”

“Can we come and see you? Someone wants to meet you. His name is Datuk Kamal Amir. Hold on, I’ll pass the phone to him.”

“Hello, Kamal Amir here. I would be most honoured if I can meet you. Can we have tea today?”

“Sure, no problem. What time you want to come here?”

“Where are you now?”

“Bangsar Shopping Centre.”

“Wah. Itu tempat orang kaya,” Datuk Kamal Amir joked. “I can be there in one hour. Is that too late?”

“Actually I’m almost finished. But never mind. I will wait for you.”

“Where to meet?”

“Come to the Dome.”

“Who was that?” my wife asked me.

“Not sure. Someone called Datuk Kamal Amir. Zahid’s friend.”

“Who is he?”

“Not sure. Must be someone important though. Zahid only mixes with important people.”

Zahid is the late Tun Ghafar Baba’s grandson and onetime Acting Youth Chief of Parti Keadilan Nasional during the time Ezam was in prison. He is one of those dubbed ‘The Dirty Dozen’, the twelve Parti Keadilan Nasional Youth leaders who crossed over to Umno just before the 2004 general election.

Politically, Zahid is ‘the enemy’. But I still maintain a cordial relationship with him in spite of our ‘political differences’, as I do with his uncle, Tamrin Ghafar, who I have no problems with and meet from time-to-time in the Bangsar Village for tea and sandwiches.

It was more than an hour before Zahid arrived and I was already feeling quite bored with all the waiting. Datuk Kamal was not with him. “Datuk is still in a meeting,” said Zahid. “He is coming along shortly.”

Datuk Kamal arrived about half an hour later. I expected someone big and intimidating, the sort of image you would expect from an Umno datuk. But Datuk Kamal was a small and very decent-looking sort of fellow. Not at all the normal Umno slime-ball and scumbag I had expected.

We hit it off in a mere five minutes and thereafter were chatting away as if we have known each other for years. They say the first few minutes are crucial. Either you take to each other or you do not. That goes for interviews as well. You have to impress the interviewers on the first take. The first impression counts and 50% of whether you get the job or not would depend on this. Thereafter, how you conduct yourself would either seal the job or you get shown the door.

We talked about everything in general and nothing in particular. It was, after all, a first meet, sort of a ‘getting to know you’ session.

“Hai, Datuk,” Datuk Kamal waved at someone walking by. The Datuk waved back and smiled and tried to hurriedly walk off. “Marilah duduk sebentar,” Datuk Kamal said while gesturing to an empty chair beside me.

This Datuk appeared hesitant and looked like he was not sure whether to accept the offer or instead just give an excuse and scurry out of there. But those who know Zahid would know that he is one persistent fellow who never takes ‘no’ for an answer. There was no way this Datuk was going to ‘escape’ and he knew it. So he sat down, whether that was what he really wanted to do or not.

I was introduced to this new Datuk. “Inilah Datuk Syed Rahman,” Datuk Kamal said as I shook hands with him. Datuk Kamal probably saw in my face that the name did not ring a bell. He looked Indian, as some Arabs do, and if I had not been told he was a ‘Syed’ I would have thought he was just another of those millions of Mamaks running around all over the country and making a nuisance of themselves.

“This is the Honorary Consul of Mongolia,” Datuk Kamal said. My face still did not show that I recognised this Arab. “You know, the Altantuya murder case.”

“Oh, that’s right.” Now I know whom this Datuk Syed Rahman is. He is that man always on TV beside Dr Sharriibuu Setev, Altantuya’s father. I inched closer to Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi, now that I knew who he is.

“Interesting,” I said. “I’m sure you can tell me a lot about the Altantuya murder which the newspapers are not reporting.”

“That would be dangerous talking to you,” Datuk Syed Rahman replied. “You will quote what I say in Malaysia Today.”

“No, I won’t mention your name,” I joked. “I’ll just say the Honorary Consul of Mongolia who wishes to remain anonymous.” There was laughter all around the table.

Datuk Syed Rahman started off by saying that the IGP had called him and told him that if Najib ever becomes the Prime Minister then he had better leave the country. “But I don’t care. I have told the Mongolian government that I want to buy a piece of land there and move to Mongolia. I don’t mind even giving up my Malaysian citizenship and settle down in Mongolia. So I don’t care what they want to do to me.”

“Why not then reveal what you know?” I asked. “What is stopping you from talking?”

“It is not that I’m scared. It is just that the court case is going on so it would be sub judice for me to talk about the issue. Plus, as the Mongolian Consel, I need to be professional and not simply talk.”

Nevertheless he did talk, and talk a lot on top of that, after I assured him that nothing would be reported in Malaysia Today and that his name would not be mentioned.

But that was before this. Now that he has gone on national TV and has acted very unprofessionally and unbecoming of a man of his status by ‘spilling his guts’ and lying on prime-time TV, then my ‘deal’ with him is now off. He has opened his mouth and has ‘testified’ on TV about what he knows about the Altantuya murder. I was prepared to keep his secret as long as he too keeps his secret, secret. But since he has now revealed all, then I too should not be bound by any ‘official secrets’ since these secrets are no longer secrets.

Datuk Syed Rahman’s shocker was about them finding the remains of seven or eight people at the murder site. “What? Seven or eight people? You mean Altantuya was not the only one murdered and dumped at that site?”

“Those two UTK are assassins. Their job is to get rid of people. And that murder site is the place where they get rid of the bodies by blowing them up.”

“Wow! This is dynamite.” For once I was flabbergasted and there is very little that can shock me.

“Not dynamite. C4,” joked Datuk Syed Rahman.

“Tell me,” I moved closer to Datuk Syed Rahman. “Did Najib order her murdered?”

“No, not Najib, Rosmah. She ordered the murder.”

“What? Rosmah?” I could not believe it. Datuk Syed Rahman smiled; pleased that at least for once someone could shock Raja Petra who never normally gets shocked by anything.

Datuk Syed Rahman related in great detail what really happened. And what he related was a far departure from what transpired in the trial. Unfortunately, because commenting on an ongoing trial is considered sub judice and can attract a jail sentence, I am certainly not at liberty to also reveal in great detail what this Arab told me. And what he told me was very different from what he said on TV last night.

Maybe one day, when the trial is over, I will be ‘free’ to talk about what Datuk Syed Rahman revealed in the Dome of the Bangsar Shopping Center that day, more than a year ago. But whether I will be ‘free’ in the real sense of the word or whether I will be speaking from behind the high walls of the Sungai Buloh or Kajang Prison is left to be seen. Maybe, after 16 September 2008, I will know.

In the meantime stay tuned to learn more about what the Honorary Consul of Mongolia, Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi, revealed in 2007 in the Dome of the Bangsar Shopping Centre. The story is nothing short of what Hollywood movie scripts are made of.

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written by ATSaari, August 24, 2008 11:49:26
Dear Pete, I'm just GLad to have you back! Honestly I was quite worried after they raided your house and aws waiting earnestly for the next article to come out. Anyway, again, I'm glad that you're back.
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written by LabRat, August 24, 2008 11:57:10
This Datuk Syed is a two-headed snake type of person.... look at how he asslicked Najib during his "revealing" speech.....
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written by omarkhayyam, August 24, 2008 11:57:15
now that makes sense why this arab named malay fella called Syed Rahman wuz on TV last nite frothing away to defend Najib n the altantuya link smilies/smiley.gif

Pete oh pete ur making this buggers look like bad villians in 3rd rated movie really come alive in life

by the way how is our treatment for all you bloggers in Summit ... another raid expected ?

cheers
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written by Anti Jihadist, August 24, 2008 11:58:06
This is astounding stuff, just astounding. Hollywood political thrillers or murder mysteries can't begin to compare to this sort of intrigue. I hope this is all written down somewhere safe in case, Heaven forbid something untoward happens to RPK, the rakyat can find out the truth. Please be careful, RPK. In Malaysia, no one is safe.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 11:58:10
Strange that a man you just met wld tell you so much in a cafe full of people in Bangsar without fear of someone over hearing him (like the SB that follow you around).
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written by Jivathma, August 24, 2008 11:59:57
Great to hear from you again Dear Pete and hope you and family are all fine.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 12:00:03
Why do u not want to tell us what he said? After all u published earlier reports claiming that the DPM and his wife were involved and u didn't seem to care much about the ongoing trial then...all a bit strange to me.
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written by laksa maner, August 24, 2008 12:00:55
well come back. RPK. Allahuakbar..Allahuakbar..Allahuakbar..
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 12:03:57
Hey Pete, if you have all this evidence, military reports etc, why don't u publish it? You have pointed the finger of blame at the DPM and his wife, but we have yet to see any evidence from you, I'm sure all your fans (I am a fan btw) would like to see it. To date no one has presented any proof that the DPM or his wife was involved.
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written by sjs, August 24, 2008 12:04:08
RPK. one thing is certain. Najib and Rosmah uses their influence and money to buy the people whose help they need most! Saiful,Syed Rahman, Bala and even some HINDRAF traitors who prayed in Seberang Jaya! The time to pay for their sins is not too far off. The extent of crimes committed by Najib and gang recently is to prevent them fom getting implicated, hence stopping Anwar at all cost! The fear of Anwar becoming PM and cutting off their line of influence is very real now!
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written by TwilightYears, August 24, 2008 12:04:24
Welcome back, Pete.

Facts are much stranger than fiction. A fictional novel become a true story? Or a true story turns into a "stranger-than-fact" novel?
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 12:05:21
Oh btw thanks for the advice on "how to impress at interviews" it really was an eye opener..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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written by jchew, August 24, 2008 12:11:05
(Razali) Kuli's bomoh is a siam monk! From an insider.
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written by lawck3976, August 24, 2008 12:16:30
But the problem is Altantuya'S ASS hole still can recognize Najib's small "brother" smilies/grin.gif
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written by LabRat, August 24, 2008 12:18:21
bitterzone,

RPK has his own way of doing things, why should he reveal everything here at once and risk the evidence being confiscated by the corrupt police (hey, they can just enter his house and confiscate anything like what happened 2 days earlier and many more times before). So, if you do not know anything, shut up your f@#king mouth......

And btw, if you want to become a fan, join some fan club like KPMU, stay away from MT....
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written by kingelvis, August 24, 2008 12:20:07
If I was gay you'll be getting a french kiss by now. Love you man.You never fail to deliver.
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written by Sudahlah tu, August 24, 2008 12:22:27
Kalau membaca mengikut fakta , pandangan secara radikal ialah ....
Patutlah Si NTR berani menggunakan taktik Quran dan bersumpah ...
Rupa2nya Si RM yang mendalangi situasi sebenar ...
Si RM merupakan sumber kekuatan NTR selama ini ....
Jadi ..panjang lagi cerita ini nanti ...
Kita boleh tengok Olympik di London yang akan datang pun, cerita ini belum siap.
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written by tanahairku2, August 24, 2008 12:33:24
Bitterzone,
Aiyah, you still dont get it. The proof is already there. Firstly,Why haven't those implicated brought charges against RPK? They dare not, as RPK is just waiting to reveal the evidence in court. Secondly, you want the police to raid RPK's house again to search for these evidences? Under the present system, there is not just law. Only law is knowing how to think ahead and outwit the police and aca.
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written by Mr Smith, August 24, 2008 12:36:25
Of course, I was convinced the first time I read this Arab's statement. But I think he was either threatened or paid to come out with statements to help Najib but then he should have realized that RPK had his secrets too and he could be exposed. Maybe he was told that RPK would be behind bars to hurt him.
Better the story come out now and expose the scumbag Arab.
One more thing with this story is why did Zahid and Datuk Kamal want to meet you 'so urgently'.
Their role have been completely left out.
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written by Motherchell, August 24, 2008 12:37:23
Pete! from all that you have not told us yet ---- !!

The current case is a waste of public funds and a butterfly symphony .----The Ag , IG, Najis, and all those guilty ,by being an accesory to withold evidence , better pack their bags and clear your bank accounts----they should also watch their cholestrol levels from on --- they have to stop reading the Alternative Media which is bad for their health! Malaysia has become Hell On Planet earth !!!!!!!!!!1

The Sword of Democles is just waiting for them all !!!!
May Altantuya's soul rest in peace!!

God Bless you Pete !!
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 12:40:10
LABRAT - U tell me to "shut up" what's wrong, don't you like free speech any more? I'm just a bit bored with all the writings that say DPM did this his wife did that etc. I want to see some proof for a change, don't you? Come on I'm sure you would like to see some evidence for once. Anyone can make up a story - Oh it was the french PM that murdered Altantuya to cover up a secret arms deal. I met a french diplomat in starbucks klcc yesterday and he told me it was ordered by the french PM. I wish I could tell you more, but with the ongoing trial I cannot lah. Hope you get my point and I respect your view that Pete needs to protect himself, but come on man we need to see some proof some time not just stories yah.
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written by Kerajaan Rakyat, August 24, 2008 12:40:37
Pete you can diclose what Datuk Syed Rahman
revealed to you after 16 Sept 2008.

Yes!! after 16 Sept 2008.

To Rosmah,

Hell are inviting you to join those
UMNO leaders that are already there.

http://www.kerajaanrakyat.com/

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written by cubi76, August 24, 2008 12:41:03
Everyone is in the mood to **** the government!
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written by Motherchell, August 24, 2008 12:53:12
Pete! since Syed did not honour the deal with you ---- and with his big gutless mouth spoke like some usual scumbag on primetime. From today he will have to wear sunglasses and stop shaving for being a guy without a backbone.

Where on earth did the Mongolians find such a spineless traitor!!! Pl tell him too -- not to migrate to Mongolia , Please!--- Genghis Khan's relatives may have an Arab dinner for a change!

Keep your self safe Pete! We are with you all the way! God Blees you always!
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 12:53:40
Arabs are descendants of PIGS. That is why they do not eat pork, although many of the new generation eat pork, and drink pig's urine. Some even **** and sodomise pig. They are all faked mulims, and now yet the people of bolehland blindly follow them.
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written by KARMANNGHIA, August 24, 2008 12:54:15
"‘Syed’ I would have thought he was just another of those millions of Mamaks running around all over the country and making a nuisance of themselves"


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written by Firaza, August 24, 2008 12:54:49
Good afternoon Dear Raja Petra,

It was sincerely a pleasure to have met you in person last night and hope you enjoyed the seafood @ Bukit Tambun during supper. Nevertheless, have a well deserved rest before the long day today.

Thank you for obliging for the snapshot as well.

God Bless and see you this evening.

Firdaus Christopher
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 12:55:26
tanahairku2,

o.k so they have not pressed charges, but this is not proof, come on people think use your ****ing brains for once. I want to believe Pete, but it's time we saw some proof. For example we saw the medical report that showed the Malay chap was not buggered, yet he still pressed charges. My point is that pressing charges or not pressing charges is not in itself proof.
Also, Pete can find some other way of showing evidence, for example by giving the report to the foreign media i.e Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Times etc etc,he does not need to reveal the proof on MT. I don't like the DPM based on what the man has said over the years, but if he is to go it should be based on actual evidence and not on rumours and coffe shop stories. I hope the people condeming me in this forum will have the intelligence to understand that every person should be considered innocent until PROVEN guilty. I am a fan of RPK but the time has come to produce some hard evidence.
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written by Richy, August 24, 2008 12:59:45
Maybe one of the obstacles to achieve his ambition to become PM of Malaysia is his wife Rosmah. Wouldn't that be easy if he just divorce her? Maybe our DPM is also scared if that happens he could be C4ed by his beloved wife.
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written by akef, August 24, 2008 13:07:30
written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 | 12:53:40
Arabs are descendants of PIGS. That is why they do not eat pork, although many of the new generation eat pork, and drink pig's urine. Some even **** and sodomise pig. They are all faked mulims, and now yet the people of bolehland blindly follow them.
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Harimau..
Please dont get too overwhelmed with your emotions towards the Arabs. Our prophet Muhammad is an Arab. Dont make racially invoked statement. I hope this
also applies to the rest. Muslims should respect other religions, likewise the rest should do to Islam and Muslims.

Thanks
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written by Firaza, August 24, 2008 13:24:42
Dear Raja Petra & aredent readers,

One more thing, CM Lim Guan Eng just announced a statewide special holiday declared for Penang on 26th August.

Fantastic news & Great job !!

Salam Reformasi,

Firdaus Christopher
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 13:24:49
" commenting on an ongoing trial is considered sub judice and can attract a jail sentence "

I'm pretty sure they ( BN/UMNO/gomen ) already has all our names, email addresses and IP already... and not only after Saffee threaten to sue us all!

So let them put us all in prison. If we are to be threatened into silence and fear by ISA each time we choose to speak our mind, we are never actually free anyway.

Change is inevitable and an era of reform is on its way and nothing they ( Gomen ) can do is going to stop it!

RPK, you rock!
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 13:31:30
Agree with Skef! Harimau, please refrain from making such racially invoking statements. A couple of bad apples is not a accurate representation of their entire race and beliefs!

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written by Super admin, August 24, 2008 13:41:48
Dear bitterzone, please let us have your residential address and we shall arrange to send all the evidence to your house.
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written by Khan, August 24, 2008 13:43:01
Firdaus Christopher

Are u the son of Aris Christopher Fernando?

Any way, he was the best lawyer Malaysia ever had and Allah swt took away his life at a much younger age. May be HE too liked him so much till he took his life away...
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written by Dhan, August 24, 2008 13:54:59
Pet,

You may want to get a legal opinion of what exactly is subjudice. This matter is about Rosmah, Alhabshi, finding other body parts, which may not be connected to the trial and subjudice. Cutting close maybe.

An issuance of an SD will not be subjudice as it assists the court in arriving at justice. Provided Zahid and Kamal backs it up.
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written by FFT, August 24, 2008 13:55:18
Dear bitterzone,

Najib called for you. He badly needs a teabag. And Rosmah would like her scones buttered.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 13:56:10
Dear Super admin,

I guess you are trying to make a point with this request, but I don't mind providing you with my home address if I can send the evidence on to the international press so that justice can be done for Altantuya; is this acceptable to you?

Bitterzone
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 13:57:53
Dear RPK,So you have report back to work after been rape by those bloody men in blue.Thank for signing in.Hey, can't wait what that Arab told you.I hope another damming revelation that will shock the entire country to its core.
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written by wishuponastar, August 24, 2008 14:05:44
It was so obvious, that Arab was selling his soul to the devil.
The ass-licking displayed on prime-time tv almost had me puke.
What we learn from all the cheap confessions of Saiful,Ezam,Nalla and now the Arab from the Mongolian steppes is we the Malaysian rakyat are perceived by Putra Jaya as mongoloids...incapable of thinking.
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written by anakwatanKL, August 24, 2008 14:09:30
Interesting and shocking revelation. These people took care of/ got rid of other bodies at the murder site. Boy........, these humans have really lost their mind if not, their soul. The story of absolute power corrupts absolutely now.

God help us all.
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 14:10:55
RPK, heed not any challenges made by those who are planted here to try to find out more about what you hold in hand.

" When the strike of the hawk breaks the body of its prey, its because of timing " Sun Tzu, Art of War

Only reveal when the timing is right! Don't let these tyrants trick you into showing your bottom card so that they can put you away before the truth is revealed....

Take care, RPK

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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 14:11:54
Dear FFT, Another stupid comment. Pls tell me what is wrong with requesting proof? I don't like Najib or his politics, but if you are going to condem a man then you have to prove your case. Simply Shouting out that you have a friend of a friend that you met in a coffee shop is not evidence. Pls folks can you start to use your brains. I know the Malaysian education system is crap, but pls try to question everything that you hear or read from all sides. I would love to see some hard evidence against the DPM, but to date no one has produced a single piece of evidence, no one! No photo has been seen. One witness at the trial says she saw a photo, yet where is it? Why has the hotel/restaurant in France not issued the pic? Surely they have CCTV in hotels that would cater for VIP's yet no security man in France or hotel employee or journalist in France has issued a picture showing DPM with Altantuya WHY? There is complete press freedom in France, yet no one has been able to show any pic? It's time to put up or shut up people. I rest my case.
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written by ASK4u, August 24, 2008 14:12:04
Not all Arabs are descendants of the Prophet

Does that apply to Syed Hamid Albar too. I thought he was.

“No, not Najib, Rosmah. She ordered the murder.”

Wow, don't tell me Najip is looking for a scape-goat now. He is even willing to sacrifice the goat named Rosma to be the next DPM. Emm, why not if she is going to ruin his political career and ambition. Anyway, he can also main talaqX3 and remarry a younger more gorgeous woman what. smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/tongue.gif
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written by Celestial, August 24, 2008 14:19:38
I will bet my last dollar that this Arab will now swear an oath in a mosque that RPK lied.

"Reputation is what you are in the light, character is what you are in the dark". Unfortunately, unlike RPK, these people lack both.

Pete, when I return for a visit, I must look you up and personally shake your hand. Peace brother.
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written by Marson, August 24, 2008 14:19:48
bitterzone

We are eargerly waiting for you to provide your home address, I'm sure most of us would like to pay you a visit. smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by Knight, August 24, 2008 14:20:14
Dear Bitterzone,

RPK's guts in writing these articles against very powerful political animals in Malaysia is evidence and is convincing enough for most of us. RPK did not set up this blog just a month ago (unlike Saiful's fiancee). We have been faithful readers of this blog and many times, we have seen hard evidence beyond our wildest dreams. The staking of RPK's reputation and his credibility, and the repercussions which may befall him on his personal self (and not us, sitting comfortably in our bedrooms surfing the internet), are enough to lend credence to this article. Maybe "Datuk Syed Rahman" lied to RPK, but the fact that there is a person who introduced himself as Datuk Syed Rahman to RPK in Dome, Bangsar Shopping Centre, - to me is an incontrovertible fact.

Super admin has asked that you provide your residential address. And you have threatended to send them to International Press so that justice for Altantuya can be obtained. I suggest that you send the evidence to the IGP and copy the High Court.
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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 14:24:30
In fact I was dumbfounded when I saw the "Arab" on TV rattling away and condemning DSAI, RPK and Bala. Why the 'ball of lightning' struck all of a sudden? My conclusion was most definitely he has been paid by none other than Najis C4. BN is using every dirty tactic they can think of and they don't mind paying for people to do it.
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written by mulut murai, August 24, 2008 14:36:10
bitterzone,

for all we care, when you receive the evidences, you can shove them up your arse if you want to.
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 14:37:03
bitterzone,why are you so desperate to see all the photos of Altantuya with najis. If they really put the original photos in MT will you believe it.Those are evidences to be produce in court not here.Hey,bitterzone if you don't know the way or lost please follow the crowd.Don't try to argue with wise men.
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written by panca, August 24, 2008 14:37:18
That so called place for execution will not hamper an instinctive mind to receive thoughts of possibilities of many others who had before fell victims and suffered similar fate of Altantuya.

It is not just about being eerie, it is the time now that has ripen and to be revealed by one who stood on firm grounds on justice, truth and righteousness.

Daulat Tuanku Daulat Tuanku Daulat Tuanku.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 14:42:33
It's amazing that you simply accept as a "fact" that the DPM was involved in the murder without any real evidence. I have been following MT for some time and I agree that Pete has pulled out evidence from time to time, but on the Altantuya crime I have not seen any evidence linking DPM to the victim. I admire RPK he is indeed a brave man, but I believe I have the right to ask to see the evidence, indeed if there is evidence then let the world see it so that this poor woman can finally get the justice she deserves.
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written by LabRat, August 24, 2008 14:50:00
bitterzone,

You contradicted your own statements saying that "I want to believe Pete, but it's time we saw some proof. For example we saw the medical report that showed the Malay chap was not buggered, yet he still pressed charges. My point is that pressing charges or not pressing charges is not in itself proof". Mark my words, the medical report will later be deemed inadmissible as evidence in court and they will instead rely on doctored (pun not intended) medical report by govt doctors. And the poor doctor, like PI Bala, had been made to vanish by the same people who will get to any length to destroy any evidence that you selfishly requested RPK to publish here. Sheesh.....

And for someone who do not have balls to even use your real name, or to furnish your home address, it is ironic that you claimed that you are seeking justice for Altantuya.

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written by zam3886, August 24, 2008 14:50:37
Gosh! just imagine the things that people will do to get wealth and power. Life is actually only that short, why pay such a high price just to gain that little bit of short term advantage now and suffer till no end when we finally face our creator?
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 14:51:56
Marson,

Pls don't try to intimidate me. What is wrong with asking to see the evidence? If someone accussed you of a crime, surely you would ask to see the evidence, right? Even Anwar asked to see the evidence contained in the police report. I agree it took too long, but he got it eventually. If we want justice in Malaysia, then it should be justice for everyone, not just the people we like such as RPK but especially the people we do not like such as the DPM. The law exists for everyone and everyone is entitled to a free and fair trial. If RPK has the evidence let it be published, even annoymously in the internaional media so the Malaysian police will be forced to investigate it and no additional pressure can be put on RPK and his family.
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written by Dreamlander, August 24, 2008 14:52:36
This is the Honorary Council of Mongolia
The CORRECT term should be:
This is the (Dis)Honorary CONSUL of Mongoloid
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 14:54:58
Bitterzone, what are you going to do with the evidence if its staring you in the face... will you come out and publish it and risk everything as RPK has done?

I know that I and many others will not which makes RPK a prince amongst us;

So as to your " believing in your right to ask to see evidence ", I think we should leave it to RPK and thank him for his courage an commitment to the revealing the ugly truth behind the tyrants who are running our country today!!

Long Live RPK!
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written by Dreamlander, August 24, 2008 14:57:39
The very fact that RPK is still out free just confirmed that AAB-Najib do not see eye to eye on locking up RPK. Reason: AAB wish to use RPK to checkmate Najib without getting his (AAB) clique involved in this dirty job
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 14:58:33
bitterzone,ok I will sent to you two truck lo*** of evidences if you can furnish your address and details to us.You will be held accountable if it's taken by men in blue.Another thing they are real stuff, will you believe it.
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written by Fido, August 24, 2008 15:00:13
Datuk Syed may say he isnt scared, but i pity that man. As much as many people hate him, he probably fears for his family , his relative or his loved ones. People in power and position and with money are capable of doing things and Datuk Syed knows it. He may be able to migrate to mongolia, but can he take his whole family and loved ones along with him? do you think they would want to leave.

i believe this man has received tremendous preassure. Remember Bala? the double SD bala? where is he?

the man fears for his life, maybe not only his but his children and family. we cannot pin the blame on him 100% . I believe what he said was all under duress
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 15:01:11
Labrat, I have not contradicted myself. I do want to believe what Pete has said, but I would like to see the evidence before I do. There is nothing contradictory in these statements. As I have stated above, I will provide my home address to admin, when I receive his approval that I can forward any evidence to the international press. I think I'm being very reasonable.
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written by sjs, August 24, 2008 15:04:00
Hi bitterzone,

Unlike other readers I will not criticize you. But I choose to educate you.
As you are aware RPK is being sued by Najib and Rosmah? Do you honestly believe that RPK will reveal information that he has in his possession! Lets presume that he does not have..do you believe that he will have the courage to take these "giants"? Havent you noticed the level of surpressing of witnesses and evidences taking place in Malaysian politics? Havent you realised the arms of judiciary. police and the BN are closely intertwined in surpressing all incriminating evidences against them! Havent you realised that they have the power and money to destroy and buy over anything and everything that they please. Havent you realised their ability to frame new charges on individuals who dare to expose them? Bitterzone, whatever is your political affiliation, I am not interested, but I respect you have the ability to distinguish and separate the right and the wrong!
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written by Celestial, August 24, 2008 15:10:17
bitterzone

You are obviously a young man full of passion for justice and it is indeed a virtue. The fact that RPK signed a SD regarding Rosmah (not Najib mind you) was involved is good enough for many of us. His lastest revelation is now starting to make sense (to this scribe at least). You know the state of politics in Malaysia and a good chees player does not show all their moves at once. The fact that Rosmah would drop all legal avenues to nail RPK would already give you an indication that there might be something that is in RPK 's possession that could bring her downfall. Instead, it is the Government that is charging RPK and not a personal suit brought up by her. Ask the simple question - Why? I know that she has given a lame excuse that she could not be bothered. An old adage, "If there is no fire, there won't be any smoke".

As I have stated before, I will state again:

"Reputation is what you are in the light, character is what you are in the dark". Unfortunately, unlike RPK, these people lack both.
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 15:10:25
There is only one amongst us here now who still think himself 'smart' by challenging RPK to reveal all the evidence in his possession!

Like I said, unless you are ready to risk everything to reveal the truth as RPK has done... I suggest you go start your own blog under your own name and write your own opinion to your heart's content!

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written by Concerned_Citizen, August 24, 2008 15:13:10
If you have seen the speech that this Dato Syed gave in supporting DPM in Permatang Pauh, you can read that what he was saying is not true. Take notice of his tonality and his body posture. It was not natural. When we are not telling the truth, the body will behave the same, it follows the mind, yet for ordinary people the body will always show the truth. This is an exceptional for some professionals which they show little or no difference in the body posture and movement.

You judge!
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written by redwine, August 24, 2008 15:13:11
i want more from bitterzone. Keep goin' lad. smilies/grin.gif
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written by ROBERTNGTG, August 24, 2008 15:13:22
Hope you get my point and I respect your view that Pete needs to protect himself, but come on man we need to see some proof some time not just stories yah.

BITTERASS, EVIDENCE?? WHAT ABT PI BALA'S FIRST SD?? ASK YR BOSS NAJIS TO SUE HIM IF NOT TRUE. WHY EXTRACT A 2ND SD OF DENAIL ON THE FIRST?? WHAT ABOUT THE PUSRAWI DOCTOR'S SD?? NOT EVIDENCE?? WHAT ABT THE RM 510M PROFIT BY RAZAK BAGINDA?? NOT EVIDENCE ON CORRUPTION?? WHAT NO ONE EVER DARE TO DIG INTO THIS SHIT?? THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT IS EXPOSED - NO ACTION DONE. HOW MUCH MORE SHIT U NEED TO BE PUT ON TOP OF YR HEad BEFORE U WILL BE CONVINCED?? DONT WASTE YR TIME AND OURS.
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written by Celestial, August 24, 2008 15:15:11
chees should read chess.
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written by Eskay Lim, August 24, 2008 15:15:26
It's a good idea that some famous film directors are invited to produce our first & only block-buster movie " SHE WAS C4-ed... a true story, starring an international cast from Hollywood, Bollywood and Mollywood (local).
This would definitely make Bolehland famous.
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written by OilMan, August 24, 2008 15:19:05
bitterzone,

We all know yor're a plant by the PDRM, trying to infiltrate RPK's dungeon of proofs. You can shout all you want but rest assured we are confident that RPK is not as dumd as you may want him to be.
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written by Super admin, August 24, 2008 15:24:57
Dear bitterzone, tonight the EVIDENCE shall surface. Come to Permatang Pauh to see the EVIDENCE with your own eyes. It is going to be very worth your while.
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written by Daryl, August 24, 2008 15:35:16
Bitterzone
You demand like a judge, question like a judge but not a judge. The problem here is all of us here have a brain that we use to think. Not like PDRM, BN, UMNO, ACA or most government branches. I guess you are not use to this type of rakyat. But, never mind it is okay to have a healty argument.

I am glad finally PDRM is asking for evidence. Please make sure you use the same tactic on Saiful when he asked you to charge DSAI.....

From
SWEETZONE ..... smilies/wink.gif

P/S you are wasting my time
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 15:46:49
Dear Super admin, SJS, Celestial,

Thanks for your comments. At least I can see that not all of the brains have left Malaysia yet. I simply want the truth to emerge so those that were really responsible for the murder will be punished. I am not an agent of any political party, however I dislike Najib and what he stands for, I am a strong supporter of RPK, however I have been reading the stories abt the DPM and Altantuya for far too long and just want to know the truth once and for all, just like the rest of you who visit this blog I'm tired of the MSM lies and long to see justice served. I'll be watching in PP Super admin, let us hope there will be a glimmer of light in these dark times.
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written by Marson, August 24, 2008 15:48:20
bitterzone

You are definitely a coward who dared not furnish your address. I hope that you will eat your words when all evidence will be cropping out in PP as super admin said.
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 16:08:59
"A wolf in sheep's clothing" is a dangerous person pretending to be harmless, but fortunately for us, Bitterzone's comments has shown him to be simply harmless and ignorant!

Let's move on! Can't wait to see what Superadmin has got in store for us tonight!
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written by truthbespoken, August 24, 2008 16:10:59
Bitterzone,

I really like your youthful spirit in the above responses but you gotta have more patience which only experience could bring. And experience will tell one that there is always such a thing as "doing the right thing at the right time".

As past records have shown, I firmly believe that RPK will only reveal the evidences at the right time, all the time. Be patient. Just wait and see what happens next.
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written by ASK4u, August 24, 2008 16:14:20
written by Super admin, August 24, 2008 | 15:24:57
Dear bitterzone, tonight the EVIDENCE shall surface. Come to Permatang Pauh to see the EVIDENCE with your own eyes. It is going to be very worth your while.

Wow, serious? This is getting better every minute. Did, u also notice Badavi's comment on TV3. regarding Najip swearing that he doesn't know the Mongolia woman.

He used the word, "dia", instead of Datuk Najip, which is far from the norm. Normally, he used 'dia' for people he is not comfortable with. His body language also showed that he is not very pleased with Najip's act of swearing.

Anyone on this?
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written by FFT, August 24, 2008 16:14:26
Dear bitterzone,

Warfare is 99% suspense and 1% offense.

C'mon now...you being a Najib lackey at MINDEF, you should be familiar with that. Or are you just Rosmah's pool boy?

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written by malsia1206, August 24, 2008 16:15:08
RPK, your last sentence "The story is nothing short of what Hollywood movie scripts are made of". I beg to differ once this time. Malaysia is one up on Hollywood with this murder. An Olympic Gold, you could say. No argument please.
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written by nero287, August 24, 2008 16:20:56
Dear bitterzone,

Are you going to Permatang Pauh or not? First you put conditions for posting your address and then you claim that you yearn for the truth? It may not be a contradiction but almaighty God, it certainly is perplexing. Pete has not explicitly stated that you cannot give the evidence to the foreign press, but what is the point here? Why would Pete want you, of all people to give this evidence to the foreign press? He can happily do it himself. What are trying to be, a courier boy like Saifool? Do you realise that if this evidence is indeed forwarded to you, your life could be in jeopardy? The best part about MT is that you are asked to think and ponder. Not swallow like a fish, just like how BN have trained the rakyat to do for 50 years.

As for the French Hotel, do you seriously think they give two hoots about Malaysian politics? Print pictures and sully their reputation. Which Hotel anywhere in the world would do that (except in Johor, maybe). Man you are naive beyond words.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 16:23:08
Marson, Nyghtsky,

As I said I have no problem sending my address if I can send the evidence on to the international press (not exactly what a coward would do is it?). I feel sorry for you that you lack the capacity to think for yourselves, it is the most fundamental problem with the rakyat at this time. The intellectual elite have left Malaysia and only a few bright people remain, mostly because they have no choice but to stay due to family etc. The remainder are mostly people too stupid like you two who lack the education to find a suitable position outside the country. There is room in the country for all opinions as long as there is respect for them. All you two did is try to bully me to prevent my speaking up, just like the idiots who broke up the recent bar council meeting. You represent everything that is wrong with Malaysia, stupidty, the belief that people can be intimidated and the beliefs that your own beliefs should never be challenged. I look forward to seeing the EVIDENCE tonight and will be the first to congratualte RPK if the EVIDENDE does surface. Let us have a little patience now and see what happens over the next few hours.
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written by Celestial, August 24, 2008 16:27:14
Can everyone lay off on poor bitterzone please? I may not agree with him but I will defend, to the death, his right to voice his opinion like everyone else here is entitled to. This is what democracy is all about. Don't go down to the level of the BN imbeciles.

Name calling is uncalled for. You can disagree but do so in a matured manner. Otherwise, you fall for the trap that the BN goons want you to fall into and perpetuate the disharmony. Point is case is Marson. You called him a coward. Aren't you also hiding behind cyber anonymity or is Marson your real name?

bitterzone may be indeed a wolf in sheep clothings but that is so easy in cyberspace isn't it? Superadmin has already adjudicated and offered the evidence and I think bitterzone has accepted. Let the matter lie now.

Spend your youthful energy in rousing the voters in PP to vote for the Malaysian dream. I will be honest in confessing that I am selfish in wanting the Malaysia of my dream so that I can now come home.

I wait with baited breadth for the next episode of this saga.
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written by AhLiew, August 24, 2008 16:35:41
Super admin,
Take care, there will be roadblock on every ro*** heading to Permatang Pauh to night.
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written by sukinong, August 24, 2008 16:42:51
RPK,
Could this relevation be a red herring? A seed planted in you to deflect the heat so that you will publish it in MT that it was allegedly Mdm R. Looks like Mdm R is on the chopping board. The husband is sacrificing the wife?
That's some balls!
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 16:47:59
Arabs are mentally sick animals, and bolehland people are blind, and no better.
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written by Marson, August 24, 2008 16:49:03
Nero287

Good said. smilies/grin.gif
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written by delCapo, August 24, 2008 16:54:53
bitterzone... since u r so nice to gostan & now willing to wait & even congratulate RPK.. i'll give u a bonus.

Let me know where u live so i come pick u up from you home (raining lah so dun get your mom worried by going outside to wait), we drive 2gether gether 2 Permatang Pauh to see RPK and the evidence, k?

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written by Engineer, August 24, 2008 16:56:17
Dear Commenter,

Bitterzone and redwine are mere Umno Cyber Troopers attempting to confuse the mind of pure and honest heart of ours.

If 1,000,000 readers who had read RPK scribes and already saw the evident, Bitterzone just need to read more if he is sincere in seeking the truth.

No need to ask - the truth is out there already.

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written by delCapo, August 24, 2008 16:56:29
Sukinong,
I bet Najis can't wait to get rid of that fatty anyway... to save his own political ass as well as to facilitate him getting more pretty puss & asses!!
hahaha...
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written by Bigdawg, August 24, 2008 16:57:02
Ah Bitterzone, you twack! You just gave yourself awaywith this statement!

"The law exists for everyone and everyone is entitled to a free and fair trial."

That is an UMNOputra slogan which no one believes!

Go suck on Nazip's natural equipment used in Atantoongya!
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 17:01:14
Please leave aside our difference and just for 2 nights more we will be sleeping together for the sake of one gentleman,Anwar.Let us all unite and take him to greater heights.For only through him we will walk with our he*** high.Only the brave will triumphant over the corrupt.Vote for Anwar,the man we all trusted.
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written by peacemonger, August 24, 2008 17:02:27
I don't know how much Mingolia pays their Honorary Consul to Malaysia. Evidently it isn't enough. Or may be the land deal he was expecting in Mongolia fell through.

Never did trust the man from the very first time I saw him on TV 'Consul'-ing for Altantuya's father. He looked to much like a person looking for glamour. Very unlike those 'diplomatic' types who much prefer to remain in the background.

Well, he is getting his five minutes worth of fame, now. But not in the way he expected, I guess.
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 17:02:43
bitterzone...Kon See Boh Yong.
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 17:02:49
Nero,

Good points, allow me reply.

1. MT often publishes articles from Guardian, The Wall Street Journal an other foreign newspaper report about Malaysian politics. Let me tell you that if there was evidence some French journalist would have published the picture. It's what journalists in the west do. Think of Princess Diana, they even published pictures of her dying, don't you think they would publish pictures of the DPM of Malaysia with a girl he is alleged to have murdered? That would be some story. Any journalist would give gold to publish proof, my question is, why has no foreign journalist published any proof although many have written about the case?

2. To answer your second point abt my life being in danger, I will tell you what my grandfather once told me and it's the reason I am prepared to risk it in this case. My grandfather told me when I was a small child: "When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I was not a Jew". When they came for the Muslims I did nothing because I was not a Muslim". When they came for the Catholics I did nothing because I was not a Catholic". WHEN THEY CAME FOR ME, THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO DO ANYTHING". I hope now you can understand why I am willing to take a risk, because like RPK, Anwar, ordinary people have to take a stand. As Wiston Churchill once said "all that is necessary for evil to win, is that good men do nothing". I am not willing to do nothing and neither should anyone who cares about this country. The fight for justice, is a fight we must all share.
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written by cubi76, August 24, 2008 17:04:08
dear bitterzone,
I assume that you live in Msia, and you are not with any political party.

Firstly, I understand that when superadmin asked for your address and you tried to give all the excuses and conditions to not reveal it, you actually had a second thought on whether to really possess such an important evidence if superadmin will really send the it to you.

Can you imagine the impact this evidence has on our government in power? Can you imagine if you did really disclose your address, and superadmin declares that the evidence is with you... i would suggest you to run for your life just like the doctor and bala did.

Son, this is malaysia. this is no australia, or america, or UK, or whatever country that rule of law prevails. This is the place where it happened. A foreginer got killed by our very own elite PDM, and blown up by C4. this evidence is exactly the reason the PRM raided RPK house time and time again.

So... it's wise to lay low sometimes. Be smart, but dont have to be smart-ass.
U think you're qualified enough to possess these evidence? You're not. And if you dont have the guts to **** the government like RPK did, I suggest you dont try act like one who's qualified.
Only a handful of people in this country are qualified and powerful enough. RPK is one of them.
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:09:14
Bitterzone does not know when to shut up. He obviously has too much time rambling about "seeking justice" for Altantuya, when in fact he is he doesn't have a clue. When will you STOP your ramblings its getting old like a tape recorder. No one here believes or agrees with you so it's time to give up.

YOU NEED NOT RESPOND TO THIS.
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written by artfulone, August 24, 2008 17:09:46
RPK you must be living your life to the fullest and everyday must be a day to be thankful for. So many must be praying for you everyday. You are such a big PITA ( Pain in the arse ) for DPM and Rosmah like matter and anti matter that you can't be on the same planet.
I believe you hit the nail on the head. It always the women who are the craftiest. So the marriage, jealousy, charms and majic spells are all neatly woven by you know who!!
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:11:49
Bitterzone, who do you think you are asking RPK for evidence? Is evidence tendered in court or should RPK reveal any evidence in his posession because you are fed up of reading his articles and think he should reveal more evidence?

STOP YOUR RAMBLINGS!
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 17:12:10
Cub, I did not give excuses. I gave one condition. It is pointless for me to have the information as that will not change anything. I am not trying to take on RPK or anyone else. Like the rest of you I believe things have to change in Malaysia and I believe in order to make the change proof, hard evidence must be shown to Malaysians and the rest of the world, only this will bring about the changes we want. I truely hope to see this evidence tonight, the people have waited 50 long years for a truely multi-racial, equal status state and they deserve it. I again repeat that I am not from any political party, I support RPK and simply want to see the truth that will bring real change to Malaysia.
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written by Celestial, August 24, 2008 17:13:52
HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, did you do bootcamp with BN??? Your propensity to just tar everyone and choice of language is very disconcerting. Your disrepect for your fellow citiziens' rights is exactly what ilks the nation. Your comment "Arabs are mentally sick animals, and bolehland people are blind, and no better." Aren't you a member of bolehland and therefore confessing that you are mentally sick and blind too, or are you some mischievious foreign imp craving for attention? The more you post your comments with your derogatory remarks, the more shame you bring to yourself.

I will repeat again for your benefit - "Reputation is what you are in the light, character is what you are in the dark".

I don't know how old you are but by your behaviour, I suggest that you haven't past the maturity of a 10 years old. Accept this saying from an older man and ponder which group you belong to - Wisdom often comes with age but unfortunately for some age comes alone".
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written by Bigdawg, August 24, 2008 17:15:13
Hi again Bitterzone or Ezam or Saifool whatever is your name!

You must be aware you yourself are in no position to legally execute and act upon reception of incriminating evidence in whatever court cases.

You are just a little worm from UMNO crawling in MT2Day's web, that's all!

Go suck on Nazip, like I said!
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:15:36
Bitterzone, stop your ramblings, you're NOT entitled to any evidence. If you do not like what you read or the comments here, then MOVE ON and make yourself more useful elsewhere.
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:18:45
Bitterzone, from your comments earlier quoting Winston Churchill are you trying to allude to us that you are well read? Who are you trying to kid?

Your statements of wanting proof and french journalist etc etc. gave it away that you are not a highly intelligent nor well read person. Sorry!
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 17:18:57
Dogboy, U raise a good point. Who am I to question RPK? Don't you see that's what everyone should do, question those in authority, all the time. It's because people did not question those in authortiy earlier that resulted in this unfortunate situation.

I won't say anything more for the time being. Like most of you I eagerly await the evidence in PP tonight.
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:21:39
Yes you can wait for your long awaited evidence tonight. I'd hold your breadth if I were you.
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 17:22:27
What has evidence in PP got to do with you, bitterzone?For God sake move on!
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written by sjs, August 24, 2008 17:22:55
Anwar’s family has weathered turbulent times over the past 10 years! They have been victimized by this government! The greatest cruelty the BN government did was to frame Anwar with false charges and deprived his wife and kids of husband and father’s love. All their sufferings will be washed away to the distant sea from the soil of Permatang Pauh come midnight 26th.August 2008. All the tears and sorrows of friends and family members all these years will come to an end. Our heartfelt thanks go to Wan Azizah and her children for sharing Anwar with the people of Malaysia, even after he was released from jail.

A New Malaysian chapter will soon begin, prefaced with the first word “MERDEKA”
And Anwar shall be the liberator of his fellow countrymen from the evil tyrants!
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written by sjs, August 24, 2008 17:23:28
Voters of Permatang Pauh,

DON’T REad NEWSPAPERS DAY

Don’t read newspapers on 26th. August 2008. The BN election campaign will be engaging in its worst attack against Anwar on the 26th. August through the main-stream medias. This is their last resort! They have lost their battle plan! Political watchers already know the headlines of some of the newspapers on 26th. August. “PKR assemblymen charged with sex and corruption” Since they will be charged on Monday, that will be the headline for Tuesday! Throw all newspapers out of Permatang Pauh on this day. To all newspaper vendors who believe in a New Malaysia, don’t distribute your newspapers on that day!
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:23:53
Bitterzone wrote:

Cub, I did not give excuses. I gave one condition. It is pointless for me to have the information as that will not change anything. I am not trying to take on RPK or anyone else. Like the rest of you I believe things have to change in

Malaysia and I believe in order to make the change proof, hard evidence must be shown to Malaysians and the rest of the world, only this will bring about the changes we want. I truely hope to see this evidence tonight, the people have waited 50 long years for a truely multi-racial, equal status state and they deserve it. I again repeat that I am not from any political party, I support RPK and simply want to see the truth that will bring real change to Malaysia.

--RAMBLINGS OF A LACKEY WHO WANTS TO SOUND SMART
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written by sjs, August 24, 2008 17:25:32
LETS CHANGE THE HEadLINES OF ALL NEWSPAPERS ON TUESDAY 26TH. AUGUST 2008!
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:25:54
Bitterzone, I what I said was who are you to ask RPK for evidence in this forum. I did not say who are you to question him. I mentioned any evidence if produced is better produce in court. Wouldn't a 'learned man' like you agree?

Better read my comments again if I were you
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written by bitterzone, August 24, 2008 17:27:56
Dog by name and dog by nature.
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written by Bigdawg, August 24, 2008 17:32:30
BitterEzone, you're still here?

Up your backside so I can give you evidence, like what UMNO wants!
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:32:41
Bittersweet - bitter by name bitter by nature
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written by Dogboy, August 24, 2008 17:34:25
Bitterzone - just don't know when to give up eh?
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written by fastorm81, August 24, 2008 17:45:21
i just cant wait for tonight... smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif
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written by flls, August 24, 2008 17:59:20
come on everyone, just stop it. it is very immature to be exchanging insults on cyberspace, dont ya think?

anyways, RPK, so glad that you are alright.

wow, rosmah? no wonder she needs to ward off "evil"...
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 18:02:58
Tonite will be the same as any other nite,only 26/8 nite will be different from all becos our saviour,Anwar is born.
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written by redwine, August 24, 2008 18:13:25
bitterzone, do not afraid to perceive the justice and go to PP tonight. TC.

p/s: please do not insult, be mature and respect others opinion.
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written by Knight, August 24, 2008 18:13:33
Dear Bitterzone,

Let me give you the correct version - your grandfather modified the original, which I need to do justice to the original author :

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

I don't think you are that noble to be really seeking justice for Altantuya. You are just trying to challenge RPK to put all his cards on the table for you to see. If RPK thinks he wants to send all the evidence to the International Press, does he need to do that through you? Who do you think you are? Do you have a "Raja" infront of your name? If you have been a bit more humble, you won't have incurred the wrath of so many MT readers.

I suggest you spare a moment and reflect. I don't think we are against you giving your opinions. But far from it, you are challenging in the most uncultured manner the veracity of the information in this website which we visit umpteenth times everyday. Other MT readers will end off with "I look forward to seeing the evidence" and wait for Part II, and not like you demanding the evidence to be sent to your house.






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written by johntyc, August 24, 2008 18:19:57
I wonder how much or what syed rahman get for his appearance and special edition 'ceramah karut' smilies/tongue.gif

RPK, you'll be speaking a lot more after 16 September 2008 behind press conference table inside a tall palace like building in Putrajaya smilies/cool.gif

Meanwhile, the fat murderer would undergo slimming session in jail for the rest of her life smilies/angry.gif
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 18:20:05
Bolehlanders blindly ape the Arabs, and blindly follow their faked religion.
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 18:24:17
Knight,that's better!Now we all know what type of species is bitterzone.He stands next to Khairy,the hairy.
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written by Marson, August 24, 2008 18:24:36
redwine

I'm afraid bitterzone don't have the guts to go pp, if the evidence is out tonight bitterzone will be too busy changing his or her diaper because bitterzone will be peeing nonstop. I'm wondering is bitterzone is actually auntie pet the scumbeg.
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written by banzai, August 24, 2008 18:27:12
bitterzone,
Are you CHICKEN??? No address.
Or maybe address at KFC.

Rosmah,
Dare you swear at the mosque like your husband did and Saiful with the Quaran???

bitterzone,
Can you explain that???
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written by mikewang, August 24, 2008 18:30:11
YM,

You seem to meet so many improptu VIPs and informers who will spill their beans on you.
I don't suppose you keep an MP3 player or a good handphone with you all the time, you know, one with a recorder function.

Oh ... I must be nuts to remind you.
Just make sure you keep those recordings well with plenty of duplicates all over the earth in case the police may again come calling and confiscate those "evidence." smilies/smiley.gif
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 18:32:18
Arabs are descendants of syatan.
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written by Lembing, August 24, 2008 18:41:33
BITTERZONE smilies/grin.gif BITTERZONE smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif Just quoting you..." The law exists for everyone and everyone is entitled to a free and fair trial. If RPK has the evidence let it be published, even annoymously in the internaional media so the Malaysian police will be forced to investigate it and no additional pressure can be put on RPK and his family."

Either you are the running dog of the UMNO PUTRAS OR you are just so IGNORANT AND NAIVE. FREE and FAIR TRIAL in MALAYSIA for EVERYONE!!!! Where have you been all these years???? SUCKING your mother's TITS
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written by cwy, August 24, 2008 18:45:13
Bitterzone,

Please don't feel bitter being cornered and bombarded by so many RPK fans
RPK has his way of doing thing.
We ought to respect among ourselves.
Do keep on visit this MT, everybody!
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written by Anak Desa, August 24, 2008 18:53:10
Mongolia Govt shld sack the Malaysian Consul for the part he played in najib's swearing at Permatang Pauh.
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 24, 2008 18:58:16
Arabs worship syatan, and we blindly follow them.
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written by Motherchell, August 24, 2008 19:03:44
written by Super admin, August 24, 2008 | 15:24:57
Dear bitterzone, tonight the EVIDENCE shall surface. Come to Permatang Pauh to see the EVIDENCE with your own eyes. It is going to be very worth your while.

WOW --- !!! I can read between Pete's lines -------- Hi mates out there pl heavens sake keep MT posted ----- in real time --- i'm too far away to be at PP. Thanks mates!

This is one overture all of us have been waiting !... God Bless you My RAJA PETRA BIN RAJA KAMARUDIN YOU ARE MALAYSIA'S FAVOURITE SON!!!!
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written by colorsinlife, August 24, 2008 19:09:40
How do we know who is telling the truth?
Even swearing on holy books are disputed by believers of the same faith, what else can we say?
Court justice is also raised more question than answeres?
I salute all bloggers who reveal themselves like RPK, LKS, DSAI, TDM.
The rest of us writing anonymously, we need to weigh things carefully become we comments. One thing which we can do, even then we do it secretly..We can cast our ballot in the next GE.
Life is not so simple. We may have wives and children and old parents to take care. We are at no liberty to deprive them of the support (especially financial) if anyhting happen to the women folk. Maybe we got to be cowrds becuase we have to fulfil our family responsibilites.
But for some who have the courage and supporting family members..... who have the spirit of matyrdoom... I salute you... GOD bless you all...
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written by colorsinlife, August 24, 2008 19:11:05
sorry typo error ...

.... the support (especially financial) if anyhting happen to the MENFOLK. Maybe we got to be cowards ....
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written by johntyc, August 24, 2008 19:17:07
stay focus everyone. possible saboteur's element around. bitterzone just trying to confuse everyone, but fortunately he/she/they failed! just ignore.

why should RPK reveal all secrets in one shot? is it so that bn and umno can cover up everything in one shot too? they wish! only in their dreams!
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written by ASK4u, August 24, 2008 19:34:14
Guys, give BITTERZONE a break, o.k. We need to give people the benefit of doubt. It's not nice accusing people to be UMNO cybertroopers and whatnot.Maybe he is just a lad (or lass) who is just very curious as anyone of us taking into consideration the seriousness of the allegation here. Anyway,BITTERZONE don't sound so bitter,..k! Have you heard the proverb, "curiosity killed the cat". So don't be too inquisitive lest harm comes RPK way. Allow him play his cards right.

Just be patient and if you can't, than just go to PP tonight.
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written by coalminecanary, August 24, 2008 19:36:10
WHOA! Can't bloody wait for the KEJUTAN tonight!!! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Horizonline, August 24, 2008 19:37:28
uh this remind me of snow white story. u know, the evil witch try to kill snow white just because she is beautiful than her.
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written by Navigator, August 24, 2008 19:51:07
RPK,

Be very careful when these two crooks suddenly come and offer their backsides to you. It could be a trap.
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written by Motherchell, August 24, 2008 19:51:49
written by johntyc, August 24, 2008 | 19:17:07
stay focus everyone. possible saboteur's element around. bitterzone just trying to confuse everyone, but fortunately he/she/they failed! just ignore.


For now , I too agree with what our mate johntyc says !! , seems a stench of Norwegian Salmon. Mates lets focus our total strength for now !

Lets give Bitterzone some space to stretch before he gasps at the real picture of the Malaysian Justice system. There are too many phoney LLB's around where he could get some help if reading MT is an arduous and gargantuan task.
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written by Pato, August 24, 2008 20:02:35


Dear Din,

Just received word from Haris that there will be a BIG announcement tonight at Padang Ibu, Penanti ceramah at 11.00pm that will rock BN in it’s trousers. Please post this on your front page and inform as many supporters as possible to make their way to the ceramah tonight.

Cheers & Salam Reformasi.




Quote by Muhammad Firdaus Christopher
at:

http://dinmerican.wordpress.co.../#comments
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written by miwaki, August 24, 2008 20:11:34
I am going to Permatang pauh now to look at the evidence,Bitterzone,joining me ?
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written by Bigdawg, August 24, 2008 20:35:43
By BitterEzone:
"I guess you are trying to make a point with this request, but I don't mind providing you with my home address if I can send the evidence on to the international press so that justice can be done for Altantuya; is this acceptable to you?"

What a dumb thing to do! When does any press provide a whistle-blower from corrupt governments and deal out justice?

You better crawl into your mummy's ubderwear tonight and learn some more about life!
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written by nero287, August 24, 2008 20:37:11
bitterzone,

well said, bravo, what courage, admirable!! Now my lad, can you please provide your address to superadmin.
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written by bigben, August 24, 2008 20:37:42
i can vouch for what RPK just said as a very close Malay friend of mine who is also close to this mamak told me the same thing as what you have just said. What i heard too was that this mamak sent a load of evidence to that he had gathered form Mongolia to out Prime Minister Pak Lah. What it contained i did not ask but will find out more. It is my believe that he had also paid off the victims family on behalf of najis.
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written by Nunudada, August 24, 2008 20:38:04
All I can say is that the SHIT! needs to be cleaned;for once and for all.We have had our fill of shit for the last 25-30 years.Only the people can do this,and we need to get rid of this smelly sewage from our lives-Remember!NO HOLDS BARRED-NO STONES UNTURNED.We are all with you RPK! SCREW 'EM.
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written by Bigdawg, August 24, 2008 20:38:13
Insert word "protection" in case your egg-brain misunderstood.

"provide a whistle-blower from corrupt governments "
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written by born2reign, August 24, 2008 20:50:13
Shocker!
Najis should have just divorced Rosmah and married Altantuya in Malaysia, then he won't be in such deep s***. Hey maybe he did inform Rosmah of his intention that's why Rosmah c4-d her.
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written by Dreamlander, August 24, 2008 21:01:01
Bitter Zone
Do not feel bitter
RPK earned the TRUST of all MT readers over the years with his numerous exposes & revelations.
You may be new to MT. Read more and then you may realize that most of RPK predictions are accurate. The most memorable one is his forecast of the wrestling of the 4 new PAKATAN administered states from BN.
"Justice for all" is applicable when all the parties involved interact on a fair and level playing field. The current situation in Malaysia vis-à-vis the government and the public is not and therefore we cannot produce incriminating evidence as if we are in one of the more established democracies in Europe/North America. Both the executive branch and MSM in Malaysia are skewed.
On your contention that the foreign press did not report on Najib presence with Altantuya, please remember that their meeting in Paris, if it ever happened, took place months before the sensational crime was committed. At that point of time, it was therefore a common normal mundane affair; not newsworthy. Just imagine, if Princess Diana did not die in that tragic car accident, would you have remembered that it occurred on 31 August 1997, our Merdeka Day? Definitely NOT. Furthermore, many foreign reporters are ignorant of our leaders if they go around Europe incognito. Maybe, the security detail around them was very tight. Who knows?
We yearn for better governance in Malaysia. Let us not dissipate our productive energies by squabbling over trivia in cyber-space. Concentrate and work for our common ultimate objective: CHANGE
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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 21:03:03
What's the last flight to Permatang Pauh? Or is there a charter flight there tonight?
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written by Motherchell, August 24, 2008 21:06:12
mates !-- get on to Keadilan TV LIVE STREAMING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by educationist, August 24, 2008 21:14:49
What an innocous title for such an explosive article!
But RPK had released snippets of info before though as posturing on other possibilities.
With the Consul General named even though he had been 'turned' , there is little wonder all effort have been taken at the highest level of government to cover up the case.
So, even though justice is an abstract concept, in this case it must be seen to be done for the deceased & the deceased's family.
And if anyone can do so, it is RPK!!
By the way, has Bala & family been turned or disposed of?
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written by binkah1, August 24, 2008 21:41:56
Bitterzone, what's eating you man? you seem to have a bone to pick with MT. Comeon lah, if you are not happy with what RPK posted, then why bother to come in here? no one owes you an explaination for all your questioning. Believe or not your personal right, but being demanding is another thing.
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 21:52:26
PAKRAK,The last flight to Permatang Pauh is leaving at 10pm and they are still waiting for the last passenger to turn up.'Will the last passenger by the name of bitterzone please report to the nearest counter for immediate boarding'.
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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 22:00:35
Thank you Pato for the info. Please keep us posted as soon as you receive word from Haris.
Too late to rush to PP now. Have to sacrifice my seat to Bitterzone.
Thanks a lot.
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written by OMARZ, August 24, 2008 22:09:06
“No, not Najib, Rosmah. She ordered the murder.”

Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is
No favoritism. Those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

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written by DontPlayGod, August 24, 2008 22:11:22
It doesn't take one to be a genius to know that only one of three people could have ordered the murder of Altantuya(not the 3 people the A.G. mentioned). One woman and two men. Now these evil men are washing their hands of the whole case and letting the 2 UTK men take the rap, aided by, of course, the A.G. and the judiciary. Najib, by swearing by the Koran, is, unwittingly, shifting the whole blame onto Rosmah!!!!
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written by ahmadneil, August 24, 2008 22:15:06
Latest from MAS...The last passenger,bitterzone has failed to turn up for flight MH308 leaving for PP at 10pm.MAS apologize to all the passengers for all the inconvenience caused as a result of this long delay.
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written by bunian, August 24, 2008 22:27:47
My friend, a sheik, always said you cannot trust a syed and now this Mongolian Honorary Consul fella dah confirm what sheik has been saying for years! smilies/cry.gif
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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 22:39:29
I came across a comment in one of the MT articles today that BF Shorty Baboon is in U.S. taking cover while her loving husband Najis C4 is facing the wrath of the rakyat. I think she must have received Intelligence Report to leave Malaysia before something happens in PP tonight.

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written by bexe, August 24, 2008 22:45:55
I am very disturbed by the fact that these truths are being harbored. Surely people representing the interests of the deceased like Kapal should somehow get people like this Hon. Consul on the witness stand in the trial and grill him (under oath) until all the truth comes out. Get out all the facts and why he is being a turn-coat. Only then can justice be served.If the prosecution and the defense are working from a script so they won't do it, then it falls on Kapal to put this fellow on the stand.
I am also sure that Razak is about to tell the truth too. Put him on the stand (someone) and break him. He is almost ripe for the taking.
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written by BennyG, August 24, 2008 23:30:02
So hard to logged in tonite. Thought cybertroopers at it again.

Anyway, let's look at another point. 7-8 other people (presumably mostly female) C4 at the site.

Personally Najis would have more than that (female conquests) since then. IF ONE OF THE WOMEN THAT NAJIS BEDDED REad MT, SHE SHOULD BE VERY SCARED FOR HER LIFE ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE WILL BE NO CHANCE OF A CAT FIGHT BETWEEN HER & ROSMA. She would disappear like the rest. She should record the evidence and give to MT ASAP in order for her to continue to live.

Hopefully there would be a smart women in Najis' life.

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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 23:44:04

Message received:

From Mezan Aug.2 24 2008 @ 22.19.58

"News got out that Iman Ramlang Porigi is currently with DSAI, Tok Guru Nik Aziz, PAS and PKR top leadership at Masjid Bandar Perda. Ramlang told the crow that he was under orders to be at the time of swearing ceremony as he was on duty that day and he said that Saiful's oath was wrong as the accused party was not in attendance.

admin is this the EVIDENCE?

If it is true, then UMNO and the sodomy issue are checkmate."
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written by PAKRAK, August 24, 2008 23:46:07
Correction: Ramlang told the crowd ....
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written by Nyghtsky, August 24, 2008 23:56:49
The article is published in mSTAR onlinehttp://mstar.com.my/cms/index.jsp
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written by gorshan, August 25, 2008 00:57:12
it seems everyone so hyped up bout something tonight, just like those paid teenage girls throwing hysterics at the Beatles concert in the 1960s.

dear bitterzone,truth and justice has no place when its a bunch of bedouin holding court. this is the message most bloggers here are trying to get thru to you,i think smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by Wisdom above, August 25, 2008 02:18:23
The 'Gifted' should Fast and Pray for more revelations.

The seeking and redeeming in the spiritual realm will bring about real changes.

More Wisdom and manifestations will be forthcoming .

Syabas Barisan Rakyat.

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written by magickriver, August 25, 2008 05:30:36
Ha! You're UNTOPPABLE, Pete! Hats off to you. KA-BOOOOOM! What was that? Sigh... another explosion... best kind of bombs... info bombs! smilies/grin.gif
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 25, 2008 06:43:33
The ichibawa has gone to the US to prostitute herself for free.
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written by ASK4u, August 25, 2008 07:00:28
written by OMARZ, August 24, 2008 | 22:09:06
“No, not Najib, Rosmah. She ordered the murder.”

Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is
No favoritism. Those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.


Now the jigsaw puzzle fits perfectly. No wonder she got mad with the article; "Lets send Altantuya murderes to Hell", and started scolding our Sultan over the phone to keep his cousin YM RPK under leash and sue YM RPK for sedition. smilies/cool.gif
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written by helangputih, August 25, 2008 08:15:17
Nice episode of 'Kisah Benar', Pete! and I hope all is well with you.

I think Datuk SR has been manipulated by the top leaders, you know, maybe the telly appearance was just a some sort of 'nak-jaga-periuk' or Datuk SR will get fired otherwise. In the first place Datuk SR should not speak about the 'in'-things to you if he's in the wrongdoer side but he did response to you, and that shows something in'nit..
But on the other hand Datuk SR might been misled by the information that he received, and that's something too..
After all, if it's true, the wrongdoer will definitely 'going to hell'
and the government can do nothing to you. Safe Pete!

Merdeka!
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written by Malaysiaku, August 25, 2008 09:23:14
Pete, please take care and be wary that people may feed you with false info to 'fix' you up. I am sure you are wary of that but sometimes in the heat of things, you may make a mistake. I have heard of people feeding another with false evidence too and when one exposes the so-called plot, it was blamed that the person exposing the plot try to use false evidence.

Keep up the good work Pete, Malaysians and Malaysia need people like you. All the best to you and your family!
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written by Yikes, August 25, 2008 10:32:36
Hehe now that Rosmah is in US ,Rice better becareful.
She might just be next on the list to be C-4ed.
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written by mamak, August 25, 2008 11:28:26
RPK. Why Rosmah order the murder ? Who is she to give order ?
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written by rayfire, August 25, 2008 14:29:13
Goodness YM RPK, you never fail to amaze me.
Let us see and behold the EVIDENCE to rid all EVIL for good!
Permatang Pauh, you are about to make history, make it sweet for all Malaysians alike!
God Bless and Please Protect our dear RPK!
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written by marbl3s, August 25, 2008 14:51:22
To bitterzone:

Whether proof did or did not surface, investigations ought to be carried out which did not. I do not stand with RPK nor do i stand with Najib. Neither one have yet to prove their comments.

The courts wasted no time in throwing the idea of Najib even getting involved on such an important murder case that involves an innocent Mongolian being blasted with C4 into pieces. Yet, they do not mind spending time going after RPK for his claims? Best of all, RPK alone did not only brought up the issue of Najib knowing Altantuya. There was that PI that eventually went missing.

At the moment, I must say RPK have the upper hand being able to provide numerous evidence of which he has claimed and denied by the government. Being on a neutral ground, all Najib ever done was to swear on the Quran. If that swearing is proof, then i guess you are just as ignorant as Najib.
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written by chin, August 25, 2008 15:07:59
Hey Pete,

Again you are rehashing old news, the cabbies were talking about this before the trial and it came out during trial and was suppressed like so many other things.

It may be fact that there are a few other bodies found at the site but this ain't never going to be investigated until the BN government is history.

Come to think of it, it worth voting in a new government to find out the sordid truth.

And then Pete, you are going to be a millionaire bestselling novelist.
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written by Kathy, August 25, 2008 23:24:21
RPK, hats off to you for taking such risks on behalf of principles so dearly held by most people in Malaysia. This Datuk Syed Rahman must have a memory like a sieve. He told you one thing and says another on TV. Or is he so sure that you will never be able to challenge him that he has come to say what he has said? He must be oblivious to what's going around him in Malaysia today. Maybe he should also buy a plot of land in the Arabian Desert (aka the Empty Quarter). smilies/grin.gif
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written by sonofman0, August 25, 2008 23:41:25
Hi! bitterzone,

It's tough going against the grain, isn't it? You hang in there. You have every right to say your piece. Only the owner of the blog has the right to terminate your presence in Malaysia Today, and I'll be very surprised if he did!
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written by Panca Indera, August 26, 2008 10:14:50
Dear HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH

The comments you wrote showed that you are a uncivilized, un-schooled in your behavior towards other fellow human races.
I have always said that It is wise to have a “WISE” and “NEUTRAL” Moderator on MT who will ensure that the tone and language used are within acceptable limits in decency and etiquette.

No doubt we all have personal bad experiences with certain people of different races at different times, but it is incorrect and improper to insult the whole race or the religion of that person.
If you are angry or have a gripe about someone, for the bad treatment you’ve got, sure, you insult “him” or “her” for all I care. Just don’t insult his race or religion or Family(unless that person has insulted yours first!).

So mister Harimau bin Abdullah, your name does not do justice to you. The words that come out of your mouth is more suitable for a person with a name like “ Pussy the daughter of the slave of an animal”

For you, who is full of hate for the Arabs, why on earth did you choose “Abdullah” in your pen name, which means “Slave of ALLAH” in Arabic?

Must be the “Small mind” you possessed.

Note: Bitterzone you are OK!!

PRK WILL WIN BY A MAJORITY OF A LEAST 15,000 INSHALLAH AT P.P.
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written by Anti Jihadist, August 26, 2008 11:02:44
RPK's title of the piece, "Not all Arabs are descendants of the Prophet", of course assumes that his prophet, Mohammed, is a moral person.

I suppose that depends on what your definition of 'moral' is. If 'moral' means supporting a religion by robbing others, consummating a marriage with a nine-year old girl, having critics and apostates executed, having a contemptible opinion of women, and raking in huge profits from the slave trade, then yes, Mohammed was a very 'moral' person.

It appears, then, that Muslims like RPK are using the term "moral" in a very unique way. In this uniquely Muslim sense of the term, the word "moral" is defined as "whatever Mohammad does." Thus, if Mohammad were to chop off the he*** of hundreds of people (which he did), this act would still be defined as a moral act, since Mohammad did it, and anything Mohammad does is, by definition, "moral".

If God's greatest prophet is free to take part in murder, robbery, genocide, and slave-trading, can we really point a finger at people like Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and say that they are evil? They killed many innocents, but so did Mohammad. Saddam tortured countless people, but so did Mohammad. In fact, one could make a case that Osama bin Laden is morally superior to Mohammad, for, while bin Laden killed thousands of people, he didn't sell their wives and children into slavery, or have sex with a little girl, or marry more than a dozen women.

The truth about Mohammad has been one of the world's best-kept secrets. For centuries, it has been virtually impossible to raise objections about the character of Mohammad in Muslim countries, for anyone who raised such objections would (following the example set by Mohammad himself) immediately be killed. Outside the Muslim world, there has been little interest in Islam, and those who have been interested have typically relied on modern Muslim reports about Mohammad. But things have changed. Now many people are interested in Islam, and Muslims aren't able to silence everyone. Moreover, with the advent of the Internet, it is now impossible to keep Mohammad's life a secret. The facts about the founder of Islam are spreading very rapidly, and Muslims are frantically scurrying to defend their faith. But the information superhighway is paving over the ignorance that has for centuries been the stronghold of Islamic dogma. In the end, Islam will fall, for the entire structure is built upon the belief that Mohammad was the greatest moral example in history, and this belief is demonstrably false.
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written by Panca Indera, August 26, 2008 22:15:13
Nice Article Anti Jihadist!

I thought Saiful was bad!
MAn, your are badder, brudder.
Why don’t you just swear on the Bible, Koran or whatever and say that what you wrote are “ The truth, nothing but the truth, so help me God”. Then maybe we will all believe you.

Otherwise you are just a bigger shithole than Saiful.
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written by Anti Jihadist, August 26, 2008 23:09:02
I'm an agnostic.
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written by Panca Indera, August 27, 2008 00:48:17
OK.... Which one is you or are you all of them

Noun1.agnostic - someone who is doubtful or noncommittal about something doubter individual, mortal, person, somebody, someone, soul - a human being; "there was too much for one person to do"

2.agnostic - a person who claims that they cannot have true knowledge about the existence of God (but does not deny that God might exist)religious person - a person who manifests devotion to a deity

adj.1.agnostic - of or pertaining to an agnostic or agnosticism
2.agnostic - uncertain of all claims to knowledge
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written by Wisdom above, August 27, 2008 02:52:47
Karpal Singh did tried to get the Court to introduce new evidence.

It was rejected outright as not relevant.

Lets wait and see how new development can unfold by itself.

Syabas to all Peacemakers.
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written by Lembing, August 27, 2008 06:23:07
ANTI JIHadIST

Obviously you have chosen to ignore the various claims that :-

1. Mary was not a virgin
2. Jesus did not died on the cross, instead he migrated to somewhere in Europe and that his remains was found buried. That means he did not resurrect.

What have to say to all these ridiculous and preposterous claims???


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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 27, 2008 13:13:17
Prophet committed a lot of sins, including forcing an underage girl to be his wife. The Arabs are worst, and committed even worst kind of sins. Needless to say those who ape the Arabs, including people from Swearland, are unfit to be human.
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written by Panca Indera, August 27, 2008 21:18:17
HARI-HARI-MAU

Those who say that the Messiah, son of Mary, is the third of three are unbelievers. There is no god but the One God. (Surat al-Ma'ida, 5:73)

And [on account of] their saying: "We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157)

God raised him [Jesus] up to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:15smilies/cool.gifWhen God said: "Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me, and purify you of those who are unbelievers. And I will place the people who follow you above those who are unbelievers until the Day of Resurrection. Then you will all return to Me, and I will judge between you regarding the things about which you differed. (Surah Al 'Imran, 3:55)

The name Muhammad literally means "Praiseworthy" and occurs four times in the Qur'an.[20] The Qur'an addresses Muhammad in second person not by his name but by the appellations prophet (al-nabi), messenger (rasul), servant of God (?abd), announcer (bashir), warner (nadhir), reminder (mudhakkir), witness (shahid), bearer of good tidings (mubashshir), one who calls [unto God] (da'i) and the light-giving lamp (siraj munir). Sometimes Muhammad is addressed by designations deriving from his state at the time of the address: thus he is referred to as the enwrapped (al-muzzammil) in Qur'an 73:1 and the shrouded (al-muddaththir) in Qur'an 74:1. [21] In the Qur'an, the believers are not to make a distinction among the messengers of Allah and are to believe in all of them (Surah 2:285). However, Allah has caused some messengers to excel above others 2:253 and in Surah 33:40 He singles out Muhammad as the "Seal of the Prophets".[22] The Qur'an also refers to Muhammad as "Ahmad" (Surah 61:6) (Arabic :أحمد), Arabic for "more praiseworthy".

Shall the intelligent people trust Anti jihadist and Hariharimau or trust Wikipedia and Harun Yahyaor other renowned scholars
Anti jihadist and Hariharimau lose every time.


I shows every time! the people who wishes and say bad things about people always made the same mistakes of praising those they hated by unwittingly using the language or or intellect of those they abused e.g Harimau bin "ABDULLAH"


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written by Anti Jihadist, August 27, 2008 22:09:07
Wow, I'm a renowned scholar now! Thanks so much.
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written by Panca Indera, August 28, 2008 09:33:11
ANTI JIHadIST (AGAINST MORAL/SPIRITUAL STRUGGLE)

Ref Anti Jihadist, “Wow, I'm a renowned scholar now! Thanks so much.”

Yes, indeed you are, a renowned scholar, of sort, who does not even understand the meaning of the word “JIHad”. If you do, you must be against Moral Goodness and spiritual cleansing of a person. I.e. you are with and for, the CORRUPTED. Try looking up the dictionary the meaning of JIHad..

Never mind, I will make it simpler for you. I am furnishing it here, read and see if you can comprehend and understand

Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
.jihad - a holy struggle or striving by a Muslim for a moral or spiritual or political goal
Jihad (Arabic: جهاد‎ IPA: [ʤɪhæːd]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, Jihad means "strive" or "struggle".
According to scholar John Esposito, Jihad requires Muslims to "struggle in the way of God" or "to struggle to improve one's self and/or society."[3][4] Jihad is directed against Satan's inducements, aspects of one's own self, or against a visible enemy.[1

Anti., IF you don't know the meaning I give up.

SO Mister Anti-Jihadist

Your name’s means a person who is AGAINST(anti) MUSLIMS WHO STRUGGLE OR STRIVING FOR MORAL, OR SPIRITUAL OR POLITICAL GOAL.”

So you are ISLAMOPHOBIC.
Indeed! you are a scholar. Like I said in the previous post,

“IT shows every time! The people who wished and said bad things about other people always made the SAME MISTAKES of praising those they hated by unwittingly using the language or not knowing that what they used (names, ways etc.etc) came from the people they choose to hate.
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written by Panca Indera, August 28, 2008 21:05:08
Dear Anti Jihadist or more appropriate Anti-Islamist and i.e Islamophobic
You had this to say; “In the end, Islam will fall, for the entire structure is built upon the belief that Mohammad was the greatest moral example in history, and this belief is demonstrably false.

Well! this Is my answer
Ref: http://www.harunyahya.com/m_about_site.php

According to Islam, the final times will be a period close to the Day of Judgment when the morality of the Qur'an spre*** widely and people turn to live by it.

This period of the final times will also be one in which religion is corrupted. Islam will have been diverted from its true form by a number of superstitions incorporated into it. Some people, who cloak their hypocrisy and conservatism under a mask of piety, will try to spread these superstitions even wider and to prevent the understanding of the proper morality that lies at the heart of Islam. Philosophies that encourage atheism and irreligion on the one hand, and these conservative forces that try to destroy religion from the inside on the other will have pushed mankind in the direction of terrible darkness.

During the terrible chaos of the final times, Allah will use a servant having superior morality known as the Mahdi (the guide to the truth), to invite humanity back to the right path. The Mahdi's first task will be to wage a war of ideas within the Islamic world and to turn those Muslims who have moved away from Islam's true essence back to true belief and morality. At this point, the Mahdi has three basic tasks:
1.Tearing down all philosophical systems that deny Allah's Existence and support atheism.
2.Fighting superstition by freeing Islam from the yoke of those hypocritical individuals who have corrupted it, and then revealing and implementing true Islamic morality based on the rules of the Qur'an.
3.Strengthening the entire Islamic world, both politically and socially, and then bringing about peace, security and well-being in addition to solving societal problems.

According to many hadiths, Prophet 'Isa (as) will return to Earth at the same time, and will call upon all Christians and Jews, in particular, to abandon their current superstitions and to live by the Qur'an. As the Christians harken to him, the Islamic and Christian worlds will come together in one faith, and the world will experience that period of great peace, security, happiness, and well-being known as the Golden Age.
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written by Anti Jihadist, August 29, 2008 02:32:05
Let's see, I've had my moniker/pen name attacked, and someone attacked Christianity, threw out some pejoratives, and then this person regaled us with Islamic beliefs about the supposedly approaching 'end times'. Is this the best you all can do? Name calling and off topic responses? None of this refutes my arguments previously stated regarding the (at best) questionable morality of Islam's sole prophet and lone conduit, the man Muslims everywhere (as well as their 'holy' book) hold up as the paradigm of perfect behaviour.

Even if I was Christian, none of the mud slimed onto that belief system rebuts any of the facts I have reported regarding the 7th century brigand, slave trader, murderer, and terrorist whose name need not be mentioned yet again.

If Muslims claim Jesus/Isa as one of their own, they can prove it to the world by practicing what Isa teaches about loving one's enemies, and turning the other cheek. And something I never hear Muslims say, especially in their mosques, is 'Love the Kafirs as you love your fellow Muslims.' Quite the opposite, actually.

"Ridicule is the first and last argument of a fool." -Charles Simmons
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