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What reforms? Zaid Ibrahim tried but he has accomplished very little. The Prime Minister was gleeful about the ex-gratia payment because it gave him a standing ovation. But was he really interested in the reforms? Lip service, just like the IPCMC, remember?

Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob is a trained lawyer and Malaysian political commentator. He writes for numerous international newspapers and online journals as well as hosts Face to Face, an interview segment of Malaysian/regional issues and personalities hosted on Malaysia Today. He also serves as Foreign Correspondent for foreign news organisations.

Ahirudin Attan, popularly known as Rocky. He is a seasoned journalist, blogger extraordinaire (www.rockybru.blogspot.com), advisor to the National Press Club and President of the protem Alliance of Bloggers. He has defined and redefined blogging in Malaysia with scoops that outsell the mainstream media. Face to Face gets the scoop from Rocky. 

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1.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: I understand that you are writing a biography of Tun Salleh Abas, the former Lord President. What’s that experience like and what is your most interesting factual discovery so far?

Ahirudin Attan: 8.8.08 is the 20th anniversary of Tun Salleh's dismissal. He won't be celebrating, of course, because the thought still hurts him. It's not just the dismissal. It was also the betrayal. I've discovered that the judiciary was not destroyed by one man. Many men had a hand in the destruction of the judiciary and they included people closest to Tun Salleh back then.

2.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Let’s talk about the judiciary. Are you at all impressed by the so-called reforms?

Ahirudin Attan: What reforms? Zaid Ibrahim tried but he has accomplished very little. The Prime Minister was gleeful about the ex-gratia payment because it gave him a standing ovation. But was he really interested in the reforms? Lip service, just like the IPCMC, remember?

Zaid didn't get the backing of his colleagues. Also, he involved the Bar Council but isolated or ignored the judges when planning the reforms. Take the ex-gratia dinner. Only the Big Four were there, and a handful of former judges.

3.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Justice Ian Chin used the bench to make allegations against Tun. Dr. Mahathir. What’s your view? Would you support a tribunal for judicial misconduct against him?

Ahirudin Attan: Justice Ian Chin said he feared Dr Mahathir back then during the so-called boot camp era. And we celebrated his new-found bravery for attacking Dr M. But the judge used the bench to attack a former PM five years after he stepped down as PM and 10 years after that boot camp incident. How brave is that?

Judges are supposed to be fearless. If you are afraid of politicians, your superiors, and the consequences of your judgment, how do you uphold justice?

Even 20 years ago, there were very few fearless ones, really. Tun Salleh and his few brave colleagues were done in back in 1988 by their own brother judges who were too scared to stand up and defend them. They were not afraid of Dr Mahathir. They were afraid losing their position and the perks and power that go with it.

4.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Let’s talk about Abdullah Badawi. We know that you blame him for the current political and economic mess. Do you think he can continue to cling on to power?

Ahirudin Attan: Abdullah Badawi shouldn't cling on to power. He will destroy our country. He is polarising the nation, dividing the Malays and sowing suspicion between Malays and non-Malays. He is not in touch with the people.

5.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: If you met Abdullah Badawi today, what would you say to him?

Ahirudin Attan: Does he listen? If he did, he would have sacked the leeches among his advisors who are sucking this country dry and draining his own credibility.

6.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: It is reported that Abdullah Badawi may lower prices at the fuel pump? Is this the right move? Will prices of services, goods and food ever decrease? Will inflationary pressures subside?

Ahirudin Attan: If he doesn't do it, the next PM should.

Bring down diesel prices first. Thousands of fishermen who use small boats to go out to the open sea are suffering today because they have to pay 63 per cent more for diesel. Their catch doesn't increase by that much and the cooperatives or middlemen are not paying more for their fish.

7. Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: As a person in touch with the common man. What’s the level of business sentiment or confidence in the economy?

Ahirudin Attan: Bad. And I'm not talking about sentiment or confidence alone. Businesses are dying. At a shopping centre in affluent Bangsar, a shopkeeper tells me that it is a matter of time before he shuts down. He's got so much time at his hand because consumers are not buying. Some of the outlets around him have closed for good.

8.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: What’s your projection of the ongoing UMNO branch meetings? Can Abdullah Badawi and Najib Razak keep their jobs?

Ahirudin Attan: There seems to be a silent revolt at the branches.  Several incumbents, including some in Abdullah's Cabinet (like Syed Hamid Albar), are trailing in elections at that level. We may see some great upsets. But probably not enough to rock Abdullah's boat and the hand-over deal he announced recently.

9.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: Which UMNO Minister or Ministers in your opinion should be booted out?


Ahirudin Attan: For the first 100 days in office, I rate Shabery Cheek as the top performer among Umno ministers. He dared to make changes, as seen in the less hostile and more tolerant treatment of bloggers by the government and, later, the historic debate with Anwar Ibrahim.

If the next PM wants to boot everybody else out, be my guest.

10.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: The Pulau Batu Puteh issue. Should Malaysia send her warships over there to protect our sovereignty? There is talk that Singapore plans to reclaim land and expand Singapore’s size. Tell us what you think?

Ahirudin Attan: Singapore has been reclaiming land since the 60s. Some islets in the south of the republic are now merged as one or have become part of mainland as a result of reclamation.

They can go as much South as they please. What we should be concerned about is their expansion efforts by way of  i) territorial waters and EEZ claims around Pedra Branca and ii) purchase of huge chunks of freehold land in Iskandar, Johor and iii) acquisition and control or sensitive companies, such as Pantai Hospital.

With regards to warships, if Singapore sends hers to protect Pedra Branca we should send ours for the same reason - to protect what's ours, including our fishermen and the Middle Rocks.

11.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: It seems that bloggers in general have lost the momentum in forging a unified voice of dissent against the government. Burn out syndrome?

Ahirudin Attan: More of a full-tummy syndrome to me. Before the GE, most sopo bloggers were united for change. They wanted to put new faces as MPs and ADUNS. These new faces, invariably, must come from the Opposition because the incumbents were from BN (after their 2004 landslide victory).

Now that these new faces are in, you've got to give them a bit of time to settle in. That includes the 4 new state governments and FT. The result is we see less criticisms against the pre-March 08 favourite punch bags like Selangor and Penang (because they are now governed by the people the bloggers supported during the GE).

Many bloggers who blogged for change before March were also members of DAP and PKR. It may not be very easy for them to criticize their own parties.

12. Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob: The Anwar Ibrahim saga. Is he gaining popularity? Will he make it to the top job?

Ahirudin Attan: He's been losing points over assassination attempt claim and his mind games regarding the Altantuya murder and submarine/Sukhoi bribery. So far he's made accusations without being able to substantiate them.

The new sodomy claim is still being played out. If you didn't believe it back then in 1998, you won't believe it now.

Will he become PM? I don't think so. I fear lightning will strike twice in Anwar's case. He was already the DPM when he lost the top job. Now he's only about to contest a seat. He will win Permatang Pauh hands down, if he gets to contest it, that is.

13.  Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob : Give us your insights into Malaysian politics spilling into 2009? Will Pakatan Rakyat hold? Civil strife possible?

Ahirudin Attan: If Abdullah is not challenged in December, we'll have to put up with him till mid 2010 at least. Umno and BN will suffer from internal crisis under his extended leadership.

Pakatan Rakyat should hold nicely. But Anwar's return to Parliament and his hastiness to become PM may also lead to problems in this new and still-fragile coalition.

The PAS-Umno talk hasn't gone away, either. Umno is still the largest single party in the country and it holds the most number of seats in Parliament. It will always tempt some quarters in PAS and some quarters in PKR.

Face to Face interviews are conducted by way of e-mail unless otherwise stated.

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written by ctchoolaw, August 01, 2008 13:36:32
It's a pity that Zaid is not getting thru to his Cabinet colleagues. He's one of the more dynamic ministers among the lot. But it would be better if he was part of a Pakatan cabinet!!!! http://ctchoolaw.blogspot.com/
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written by jjireh99, August 01, 2008 14:07:10
rocky bru, are you answering through your "gut" feeling or through your "head"? My gut feeling tells me that there WILL BE DEFINITELY A CHANGE, don't know what that change will be. Still waiting for confirmation, trust and faith. My head tells me the same thing, too. If changes have to happen, there will always be obstacles, distractions, loose focus, frustrations, etc.... nothing comes easy. At the end of the day, choose whom you want to believe in and never let your heart be "fickled" or as they say "double-minded".
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written by tzarina, August 01, 2008 14:26:46
I have always respected Rocky. But lately have been noticing that he is leaning more and more towards Mahathir, or against Anwar. I could be wrong, and this is just my view. But I utterly despise Mahathir, and his racist policies. So forgive me for my disgust for any sort of solidarity for him. His blog also has one of the highest commentators from the UMNO/BN sect, that I have seen. Perhaps it is the affect from being one of the top guns in the blogging world...

Just my observation.
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written by timberguy, August 01, 2008 14:32:31
Rocky is a nice guy, but his love for DrM and his dislike of DSAI often gets in his way of being even remotely objective. What does this stupid innuendo mean: "The new sodomy claim is still being played out. If you didn't believe it back then in 1998, you won't believe it now." Does that mean he "believed" it then, because "his" newspaper was one of the most aggressive anti-Anwar dailies? The trial of 1998 was a circus and made our judiciary a laughing stock around the world! "If you didn't believe it then..." Current "sodomy claim" is even more ridiculous, abusive, offensive to us Malaysians and our common sense and sense of decency. Rocky, we will be opening you blog less and less these days...
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written by Food Thought, August 01, 2008 14:45:46
He's not the Rocky bru we all know a year ago. Somehow, his tone tone now is more onto BN side. Is he the UMNO cybertrooper ? We don't know. Is he the hidding enemy ? We don't know. How do we know? We don't even trust this fella anymore. smilies/cry.gif Like his beloved TDM said before, Melayu mudah lupa.
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written by timberguy, August 01, 2008 14:52:47
Oopsss, I forgot to comment on this: "He's (Anwar) been losing points over assassination attempt claim and his mind games regarding the Altantuya murder and submarine/Sukhoi bribery. So far he's made accusations without being able to substantiate them." Accusations without being able to substantiate? Hmmm... Did you read Bala's SD? Do you remember Bala quoting Najib's sms to Razak? Do you know that the trial judge has been replaced? Do you know that prosecution team has been changed? Do you know that lawyers have changed? Coincidentally, one of the defendants' lawyer, Kamarul, is the same lawyer representing IGP in the case against DSAI... C4 came from where? Sirul and Azilah were on Najib's UTK team. Musa Safri is Najib's ADC. You will see the outcome of the trial. Now, submarine bribery... It was after DSAI's relentless accusations that the fact was revealed in the Parliament that Razak baginda's company was paid "commission" of USD 111 million! Wow! Commission of USD 111 million! Rocky, seriously, you believe that? And that it went to Razak Baginda's pocket? Not substantiated... my ass! What kind of "substantiation" you want, Rocky? Actually, I just changed my mind - I will not open your blog anymore, friend... Good luck to you, stick with Mukhriz Mahathir, lah, bro...
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written by little dragon, August 01, 2008 16:21:21
Food (for) Thought

i m inclined to agree wit u. rocky is today nothing more than a najib apologist n i hardly hold any regard for wat he writes anymore.

but like they say "one man's meat is another's poison" so, i accept dat he is entitled to wat he wants to believe n support who he wants to support. at least we know which side he is on.
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written by temenggong, August 01, 2008 16:29:05
If there is no change in the govt, that is, if BN is not replaced, economically it will be disasterous for Malaysia. The shadows are already there! I don't need to say who will lose the most, those wedded to the soil and govt jobs. It all takes a change in perception, as in July 1997, to bring about the disaster.
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written by Richy, August 01, 2008 17:02:29
There is a difference in the stance of Rocky before and after election. If we were to take other top bloggers like, Sloone, Malik Imtiaz, Fariz or RPK they have been quite persistent.
If Anwar believes there is an attempt to assassinate him, is there anything wrong? We know how a Mongolian was c4ed. We know a PI is missing till today. In Malaysia’s context you can't take things for granted. Can we ask Rocky if he believes only after Anwar was assassinated? Come on Rocky... you could think differently perhaps even more wisely compared to a few million Malaysians who support Anwar. Every single evident that comes to surface is almost instantly fabricated by authorities. Hence, Anwar's evidence will not make any difference.
Anyway I find no point in arguing with Rocky as we are the ordinaries. He has earned his latest high profile fan Dr.Mahathir congratulating his position. Dr.M vs. Ordinary - the winner?
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written by ROBERTNGTG, August 01, 2008 17:26:09
The Prime Minister was gleeful about the ex-gratia payment because it gave him a standing ovation. But was he really interested in the reforms? Lip service, just like the IPCMC, remember?
Ahirudin Attan: He's been losing points over assassination attempt claim and his mind games regarding the Altantuya murder and submarine/Sukhoi bribery. So far he's made accusations without being able to substantiate them.

IT WAS NEVER IN AAB'S MIND. WHY?? BECAUSE THEN HE WOULD BE EXPOSING HIS ASS FOR
FUTURE CONSPIRACY CHARGES.
ROCKY IF THE RM 510 MILLION PROFIT BY BAGINDA'S CO. IS NOT EVIDENCE, THEN WTF IS??? NO ONE IN THE F**KING ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING ANY ACTION, SO WHAT ARE U TALKING?? WHOSE SIDE U ON??? IF ONE DIGS INTO HOW/WHO WERE THE RM 510 MILLION DISTRIBUTED, THEN U CAN SEE ALL THE FAT WORMS CRAWLING AROUND. U MUST STILL BE PRO *****.
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written by cruzeiro, August 01, 2008 17:32:15
Hey Rocky,
Who's been buying you teh tarik?
No wonder the "full stomach syndrome" ... you sure sound like it!

Why don't you just go on strike and stay "on strike" with Marina?
You've been talking a lot of bull lately .....
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written by chin, August 01, 2008 18:19:11
Kind of shallow
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written by 1351, August 01, 2008 18:32:39
This Atan is no more but an UMNO apologist who swings any which way amongst the factions.

And have to concur with cruz's say - with the platform this Atan has, notice how precious little he blogs about the ills within UMNO/Malay society. Even with more shit flying around than usual, this Atan insist on keeping mum - see, hear and speak of no evil that will only continue to damn the most vunerable among us.

I fret for my Malay brethens and the nation when scums like this Atan fail to step up to the plate in this crucial hour.

May the stars look kindly upon us

Casper
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written by Common Man, August 01, 2008 18:46:38
Me too. I believe Rocky lately had been talking strange. Obviously Mahathir lover,DSAI hater.I used to read his blog everyday but now I never want to. I read here because it is in MT.
Don't know why Tun Salleh Abas chose him to be the writer for his biography.
Have you notice that his blog was one of the ealiest to print the Saiful's accusation? Very telling.
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written by DOITNOW, August 01, 2008 21:46:28
This Atan has been turned over. his writing has definitely taken a switch towards pro BN. Imran, you have picked the wrong person to interview. This Atan's views are no longer credible..
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written by khongja, August 01, 2008 22:28:10
Look guys! It's money that changes a person.My bet is ,he on someone payroll.Maybe a plant by the government.So its best we stay as far away.
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written by Thinker, August 02, 2008 08:30:29
It was just that in the past, his goal and the goal of the people have coincided i.e. to try to bring down AAB's regime. However, the reasons behind that goal is different on both sides. Malaysians want to see a better Malaysia. He wants to see DrM's protege (Najib) as the PM.

Now that the point has come that Najib is under tremendous fire but still looks set to be PM if he weathers the storm before AAB retires, he's training his guns on Anwar. Malaysians be damned! They are not important to him. He just wants to make sure that Najib gets through these 2 years without being kicked out.
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written by Rashid, August 06, 2008 23:15:33
Abdullah may be stupid and the most stupid PM we have ever had, but I prefer a stupid Abdullah to the Najib that Rocky gets pay from. As a PAS man who is in the middle despite PAS being of the PR coalition, I want to ask Rocky which aprt of Najib can we take as a nation? Do you think we are stupid or what? And for your info, it is this nation that's seeking answers about the murder of a poor defenseless woman killed using higly guarded national ware. Can't we demand answers? Have you ever felt the pain Dr Shaariibu and his hapless toddlers feel? Sir, it has nothing to do with Anwar, it is about human feeling and responsibility. I prefer like most Malaysians Bung Mukhtar to Najib. By the way, did you ever see, read about or come across a poll favouring Najib on any platform? The man is simply dead. Your hatred to Abdullah for personal reasons shouldn't make spin hogwash and bunkum as you try to sell your products. You descended to a new level. And DSAI doesn't make himself a PM, it is Malaysians and their MPs who can make him one. The fact that he is a hurdle to that diabolical Najib which pays you shouldn't make you utter childish things. Your opinion should be stated as it is, not on behalf of anyone and Malaysians for that. Abdullah too has some good and if he is doing that badly (which I agree with), then the ones who are supporting that bad are as bad as they can be. How do you feel? If Najib is sincere, why doesn't he face Dollah? Sheesh! It is a time like this that I refuse to blame Kalimullah bcoz you are the same on the other side. Hope you enjoy it.
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written by SUV, August 09, 2008 12:03:48
apasai,si imtiaz sarwar tak interbiew reformists n bloggers who r genuinely fighting 4 the cause of the rakyat..people like ahmad lutfi othman for example...why this kiasu biasness?urbanites,klites,kiasus,like rocky is a fly compared to them!!!
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written by SUV, August 09, 2008 12:08:37
2 years ago,blogging was taking off like in malarsial..so in ode to b hip,these fellas joined the "hip" bandawgonlah..tenggok gundu marina mahade..she too wanted 2 b hip..so joinlah d bloggers club..but malaysial dah lupa reformists used the cyberworld for ther movemnet more then a decade ago,but they r not recognised...
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written by SUV, August 09, 2008 12:10:35
i chelen malek to interview people like penarik beca,ahmad lutfi,tulang besi aka rahamn celcom..
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written by SBennit, August 13, 2008 20:25:23
This guy is full of dog shit, just like Marina and Kadir A Jasin.


Flush.............


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