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Thursday, 17 July 2008 18:37

Leslie Lau, The Malaysian Insider

If Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is charged for sodomy again, he will not be the only one in the dock.

On trial with him will be the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's proposed reforms.

Also facing sentence will be the justice and legal system. And most of all, Abdullah should know, the country will be on trial.

That is why his administration will have to go the extra mile in ensuring the case is handled by the book.

And further.

So far, the authorities have not been off to a good start. Public perception of Anwar's arrest yesterday was generally negative because of what was considered to be the high-handed way in which police detained him.

"I cannot believe the police would take 15 cars there to arrest one man. This is not 1998," an Umno MP told The Malaysian Insider, in comments which suggested rare bipartisan agreement that the police in Malaysia can sometimes be too heavy-handed.

After the arrest, the police took pains to explain they had done everything by the book.

But for now sympathy rests with Anwar, with most Malaysians hoping against a complete repeat of the incidents 10 years ago when the former DPM faced almost identical sodomy charges.

Except for the way the arrest was conducted, the police appear ready to go the extra mile.

Now that Anwar has refused to take a DNA test, presumably because he has no faith in the system and is arguing a conspiracy against him, the police are said to be prepared to have foreign experts brought in to examine him.

But it is if the case goes to trial that the government faces its biggest challenge.

Anwar's 1998 arrest and subsequent trials are considered to be among the lowest points of the Malaysian judiciary and legal system.

This time, Abdullah is in the midst of pushing through reforms to the judiciary and the legal system. The fragile judiciary could suffer a huge body blow from another Anwar trial.

In arguing conspiracy, Anwar has already accused the Inspector-General of Police and the Attorney-General, both of whom were involved in his arrest and trials 10 years ago, of fabricating evidence in relation to the assault he suffered while in detention then.

The Malaysian Insider understands that the Attorney-General's Chambers has already decided that the A-G himself will not be involved in the prosecution.

A Queen's Counsel from the United Kingdom has been considered to lead a prosecution team.

While bringing in a QC will not be popular, especially among more nationalistic quarters, it may well be the best bet in winning the battle of perception with a public inclined to believe that any trial involving Anwar will not be fair.

A special prosecutor could still be considered a compromise.

But whatever the choice, even if a conviction is secured with legally sound measures, the government could end up with a bloody nose.

To try to avoid that, the authorities must realise that this is not just about going by the book but about perception.

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written by loosecannon, July 17, 2008 18:51:54
What's the point of bringing in a QC for the prosecution when the justice system is so skewered. Why not bring in senior judges from the UK instead? Leslie is right about one thing though. The stinking Badawi government is on trail here.
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written by deekay, July 17, 2008 19:03:51
"Also facing sentence will be the justice and legal system. And most of all, Abdullah should know, the country will be on trial"

The problem is one would not know when one's position is so bloody threatened and one would end up in the history books as the prodigal son that causes his government to be toppled.
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written by sarawakian, July 17, 2008 19:11:00
how much can they "pay" the QC to bend to the UMNO's idea of justice?

why not pursue this sodomy case AFTER they have cleared the AG office and judiciary of corruption? after all, this is not as severe a case as that of the missing Sharlinie or numerous other pressing cases like murder.

when will we see so many police cars and personnel going after a murder suspect or armed robbery case?

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written by clarity, July 17, 2008 19:15:24
If the govt. can consider bringing in QC's from UK for a case like this, why not do the same for a murder case, the Altantuya case?
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written by msiaman, July 17, 2008 19:32:17
Every which way, the authorities will lose. Even if they win the case, they will not be able to convince the rakyat they are just and fair.
Now why is that so? This phenomena isn't an overnight thing. The rakyat is just so fed up with all the gangsterism in enforcement. Is that called professionalism in policing?
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written by PAKRAK, July 17, 2008 19:40:38
"The Malaysian Insider understands that the Attorney-General's Chamber has already decided that the A-G himself will not be involved in the prosecution".

I will sunat again if that A-G rat does'nt get involved in the prosecution. He is a liar of the 1st degree and an UMNO snake. My suspicion tells me he will be like a conductor behind the scene. How can he tahan to see his people getting whacked and moreover he wants revenge against DSAI.
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written by my oumrie, July 17, 2008 19:43:34
This is all a farce. A trial with the same Gomen in power won't be any different than the one ten years ago, QC or not. They'll just add a few pillows to the old mattress from before....!
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written by Mr Smith, July 17, 2008 19:43:53
The Malaysian Insider understands that the Attorney-General's Chambers has already decided that the A-G himself will not be involved in the prosecution.
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I don't believe this unless the AG and the IGP go on leave until investigation is complete. Even today the IGP was calling the shots. Who will believe this is not intimidation and a vendetta.
Why was Anwar held overnight when all they needed was another 30 minutes of questioning. Couldn't he be questioned and released the same night? Why the the police report not given to Anwar? Hasn't he right to know what he is facing?
Malaysia looks stupid to treat this sodomy case as though it is an espionage matter that would destroy the country.
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written by komen66, July 17, 2008 19:54:24
hi all , my opinion is the ONE that we cannot forget is Khairy Jamaludin cause from al lthe media info and press confrence statement and parliment speak out.KJ seem to know everything in advance then anyone else.So ASK KJ he will know everything cause he is the real pilot in this corrupted accusation PUIK!
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written by Catharsis, July 17, 2008 20:10:33
.........................cannot believe the police would take 15 cars there to arrest one man..............................THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE RISING CRIME RATE IN THE COUNTRY- THIS HOW THEY UTILISE THEIR SCARCE RESOURCES
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written by educationist, July 17, 2008 20:18:55
Yes, perception is very important in this case.
Whatever the merits of the case, political motives will not be able to be denied by the UMNOputras.
A just and fair trail, a professional and impartial investigation are already perceived to be impossible with the IGP and AG stand accused by Anwar of fabricating evidence in his first trial.
Yet , they remained at their posts!!
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written by Navigator, July 17, 2008 20:22:21
Why don't we also bring in a QC from UK to hear the Altantuya case. No one believes that the case is being heard professionally. To satisfy the Malaysian people, bring in one well-known judge from overseas. Give him total authority to judge without fear and favour.

Also to judge RPK's Sedition and the Criminal Defamation case. Our judicial system has gone to the dogs.
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written by Angel, July 17, 2008 21:28:35
Definitely the government has more to lose than gain from this fiasco. Surely they have more imagination than to repeat old stories. It's so lame.

Even if a frame up I think it was handled badly. They should have given Anwar the benefit of the doubt as to whether he was going to report at 2pm or not and only take action after the deadline. Not preempt and 'jump the gun.' They look so ridiculous. They assumed that Anwar was not going to turn up and made an ass of themselves in the process.

Also, am disappointed at the low level and calibre of our reporters today when I saw them in action on TV. They are so scared, tame and docile and none questioned all these facts. They never challenged unlike the western journalists who challenge and ask provoking and sensible questions of their politicians. Our journalists are too spoonfed with press releases that they just copy and do not seek the truth in newsreporting nor ask the 'right' questions. An insult to their profession. What sort of journalists are our universities generating today???
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written by SeriousLy, July 17, 2008 22:25:29
FAIR? YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING! WHO THE HELL WILL BELIEVE IT WILL BE A FAIR INVESTIGATION! WHEN AG PAT & IGP TAK AMAN STILL NOT YET RESIGN! MALAYSIAN POLITICS IS MAD! I'M GOING MAD TOO! smilies/smiley.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by PAKRAK, July 17, 2008 23:07:41
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND HAVING A GOOD LAUGH AT ALL THE UMNO GOONS!
All they say is: Never before was Malaysia like this untill they now fear Anwar Ibrahim and the opposition. It looks like very soon the government will collapse and a new government will take over.

Lets pray and hope that this is TRUE!
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written by Experienced, July 17, 2008 23:13:59
smilies/angry.gif Why haven't the AG and IGP been suspended pending investigations. Where are the GOs and rules and law? Are they so indispensible? The ACA shouldn't have started investigations until they were suspended. Don't put the cart before the horse! Until now, the ACA depends on AG to prosecute. Can a child investigate a father? The plan to have independent prosecutors for the ACA isn't in force. Come on Bar Council. Correct the flaws. smilies/sad.gif smilies/sad.gif smilies/sad.gif
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written by ctchoolaw, July 17, 2008 23:14:19
Please don't forget, It's the economy, stupid!
http://ctchoolaw.********.com/...tupid.html
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written by Francis, July 17, 2008 23:50:22
One police report and they arrest DSAI. Several Statutory Declarations and the police, home ministry take no action on Najib, IGP and AG. Why.

Khairy appears to know the contents of the report but, Anwar is not given the report. Why? So that they can add new information at their will. 1st of all is there a report? If there is why can't that be given to Anwar? How transparent is the report? Everything appeara to be frameup and questionable.
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written by banzai, July 18, 2008 00:02:06
Last time UTK ( unit tindakan khas) was send to shot dead a Mongolian lady.
This time UTK send to arrest a 60yrs old man (DSAI).
Question mark??????? WHO SEND???????? Guess the whole population of Malaysia
think the same.
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written by hiro, July 18, 2008 00:13:47
If they really want the whole process to be beyond question, they should just bring reputable foreign professionals into the entire process starting with investigation, right up to prosecution and judgement.

And they should do the same for Najib.
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written by Angela Ooi, July 18, 2008 00:31:42
Everyone just cant believe how horribly stupid this gomen handled DSAI's arrest.It's been one comic and stupid action after another!
And does anyone even wonder why our economy is in this shape?
They are only in ONE mode... SELF-DESTRUCT while we long-suffering rakyat wait for their end
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:35:05

Malaysia has been on trial since 1989, since the Tun Salleh saga ! Tun Salleh posted a response to Che Det's blog. Here it is:-

Subject: Tan Sri Salleh's Open Letter to Dr.M- Worth reading
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:39:01 0800
The clarity of Tun Salleh's mind and his command of English reduces Marhathir to a clown in Malaysian history !

Tuesday, June 10, 2008
The Tun Salleh Saga - an open reply to Dr Mahathir

Dr Mahathir, I read with considerable interest your blog on the Tun Salleh Saga. To a certain degree, I must confess, I am happy for you have obviously regained your memory after having a momentary lapse of the same during the proceeding of the Royal Commission on the Lingam tape.

I must confess that I was not moved to post anything about the Tun Salleh issue as everybody and his dog has apparently written about it. However, after having read your latest boot-leg version, I am compelled to write this reply, just to put things on record and in proper perspective.

It is quite obvious that you have mastered the fine art of manipulation. When everything else fails, what better way than to stoke racial sentiment in order to gain support. That was what you were doing in Johore Bahru recently when you quite irresponsibly pointed out that the Malays are the ones who would lose out if the IDR project were to continue. You then quickly followed it up in Japan when you again reminded the Malays to unite and be strong because, according to you, other races are now asking for many things and questioning Malay rights. Samuel Johnson's "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" would normally be a cliche to repeat, but in your case, I would make an exception. Just change the word "patriotism" to "racialism" and you would, hopefully, catch my drift.



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When the issue of an apology to Salleh Abas was started by Zaid Ibrahim, I remember you were quoted as saying that Salleh Abas was sacked by the tribunal and so an apology should be sought from the tribunal.

How very convenient of you, Dr M. Of course you had conveniently overlooked the fact that the tribunal was established at your advice as the then Prime Minister. And so now, in your blog, you have revealed the truth. The truth, according to you, is that the King had wanted Salleh Abas removed because His Majesty was angry with Salleh Abas' letter complaining about His Majesty's renovation work. So, are you now blaming the King, may I ask? That is the first question which came across my mind while reading your post.

The second question is this. Since when have you become a Royalist so much so that you were almost paralysingly subservient to the King? The King had wanted Salleh Abas, the Lord President, sacked because of a letter over some noises made in a renovation work, and you followed it up with a tribunal established under our primary law, the Federal Constitution? You wanted us to believe that you, the then Prime Minister, the very same Prime Minister who amended the Federal Constitution to curb the powers of the King and the Malay Rulers, had agreed to establish the tribunal at the behest of the King? Since when has Dr Mahathir Mohamad, the fearless Prime Minister, who took away the necessity for Royal assents to any bill of law before it could effectively be the law of the country by amending the Federal Constitution, had suddenly become so subservient to the King in relation to the sacking of Salleh Abas?
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:37:03
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The third question is glaring to people in the know. It is, of course, not there for every supporters of yours to see, as we could well surmise from the majority of the comments made in your blog on the issue. The question is this. Why was it that Salleh Abas was not charged over THAT letter? If what you said was true, why wasn't Salleh Abas charged for writing such a letter to the King and carbon copying it to all the Rulers? WHY?
If the King had wanted Salleh Abas sacked for being rude to His Majesty, why is it that Salleh Abas not charged for being rude to our King? W.H.Y.??? Why is it that only now, 20 years later, suddenly, this letter has appeared and becomes an issue? Is it a case of you forgetting about that letter in 1988, just as you have forgotten about some events during the Lingam tape hearing, and suddenly rediscovering your memory last week about the same letter?

Coincidently, your former secretary, Matthias Chang, has spoken about this letter in his blog sometime in the past weeks.
By the way, during the constitutional crisis caused by your belligerent attitude towards the King and the Malay Rulers, I remember the state mass media, that is the newspapers and RTM, had even belittled the King and the Malays Rulers. The whole propaganda machine was used to smear the King and the Malay Rulers. Pictures of their palaces and mansions were shown on TV and in the newspapers. Stories about their wrongdoings were splashed in newspapers.

Even Sultan of Kedah's house in Penang did not escape your propaganda machine. RTM would proceed to air old Malay movies about how stupid the Malay Rulers in ancient days were. Films like Nujum Pak Belalang, Hang Tuah and Dang Anum were aired just to shape the people's thoughts about how bad the King and the Malay Rulers were or could be.
And yet, you now want us to believe that you were just doing what the King had wanted you to do by establishing the tribunal against Salleh Abas? Stretching your argument that Salleh Abas had to go because the King said so, why didn't you sack yourself, your whole cabinet and everybody else who had then partaken in the whole process of smearing the good name and dignity of our King and the Malay Rulers? Why only Salleh Abas?
Dr M, sometimes, one's stupidity is most glaring in one's thought that everybody else is stupid! You then mention in your blog that it was your opinion that Salleh Abas had committed wrongdoings and that he was not fit to be a Judge. If that was the case, may I respectfully ask why is it that you had not deemed it fit to establish a tribunal against a certain Lord President who was photographed with a certain lawyer overseas? Wouldn't that constitute a wrongdoing?
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:37:42
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That fact was, I am sure, known to you as it was widely discussed in the media during your premiership. It was even investigated by the ACA. Or how about the ACA investigation which showed that a certain lawyer had written a certain judgment for a certain Judge? Wouldn't that be a wrongdoing which would, if substantiated, render the Judge unfit to continue be a Judge? Why only Salleh Abas? Why not these Judges? Or is it a case of you having forgotten what they did just as you have forgotten several events during the Linggam tape proceedings, again?

You now charge, as you have always charged, that the judiciary, had interfered in the administration of the country. Your disdain for the law, lawyers and judiciary is well documented. Dr M, I remember clearly in one speech, you likened the lawyers to vultures. But of course, you would now say it was all in jest.

Your contempt for the law and judiciary, every time the judiciary made a decision against you or your government is almost peerless. You would deem such decision as interference with the administration. Although you know that the administration consists of 3 different, but essential, arms, namely, the legislature, executive and judiciary, you failed miserably to understand their respective functions and duties. The phrase "check and balance" was missing from your administrative lexicon which was probably reprinted with an express instruction from you to delete the same.

Thus, history will show that you were so upset and angry with the judiciary that you had instigated another Constitutional amendment to take away "judicial powers" from the judiciary! May I point out Dr M, that Malaysia would be the only country in the whole Commonwealth (I say Commonwealth because I am not accustomed to non-Commonwealth systems) whose judiciary does not have judicial powers unless the legislature says so. Coincidentally of course, who controlled the legislature? That was, and I surmise, still is, your idea of a democracy.
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:38:21
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Remember what I said above about stupidity? Let me repeat it. One's stupidity is most glaring in one's thought that everybody else is stupid! You somewhat deny that the sacking of Salleh Abas had anything to do with the UMNO 11 appeal which was then fixed by Salleh Abas to be heard by a full bench of 9 Judges on 13.6.1988. Events will show, at least on a balance of probability, otherwise.

Salleh Abas was served with a letter of suspension on 27.5.1988. Abdul Hamid Omar became the Acting Lord President. I will come back to this character later in this post.
On that very day, namely, 27.5.1988, on which Salleh Abas was suspended, Abdul Hamid Omar, as Acting Lord President, acting without any application by any party named in the UMNO 11 appeal, adjourned the appeal to a date to be fixed later. Why? For what reason? Why the haste? Nobody knows. That appeal was later fixed for hearing on 8.8.1988 before only 5 judges comprising of 3 Supreme Court Judges, including Abdul Hamid Omar himself and 2 High Court Judges. Not 9 as originally fixed by Salleh Abas.

How could a valid decision by a Lord President, which was made prior to his suspension, be reversed by an Acting Lord President is quite beyond me or my intellect to comprehend, let alone answer. And quite why the appeal was to be heard by a corum of 3 Supreme Court Judges and 2 High Court Judges, instead of all Supreme Court Judges, is also beyond my tiny brain's ability to understand. I am sure you wouldn't remember this fact Dr M. Otherwise, I am sure you would have stated it in your post.

If the sacking had nothing to do with the UMNO 11 appeal, why, may I ask, is that the first official act of the Acting Lord President was to postpone the hearing of that particular appeal? Why did he then proceed to overturn a valid act of the Lord President, who was then still a Lord President, albeit the fact that he was suspended? Why?

Salleh Abas made a statement to the press after his suspension. In the statement, he alluded to a meeting on 25.5.1998 with you, in the presence of the Chief Secretary, Salehuddin Mohamad, where you allegedly told him (Salleh Abas) that he was to be removed because, among others, of his bias in the UMNO 11 appeal. Salehuddin Mohamad was a witness at the tribunal. He said he was taking notes during the said meeting. While he could remember writing down only 2 matters in the note book during the meeting, namely, Salleh Abas' speech and his letter to the King (about your attack of the judiciary and not about the renovation issue), he only managed to say that he cannot remember that you had mentioned the UMNO case during the meeting when asked by the tribunal members. If he was so sure that he only took down notes about the aforesaid 2 matters in his notebook, why then he could not EXPRESSLY deny that you had mentioned about the UMNO case during the said meeting? Why can't he remember? And, in a show of embarrassing shallowness on the part of the tribunal, it FAILED to ask Salehuddin to produce the notebook! Why? It would appear that your Chief Secretary was clearly suffering from the same disease as yours namely, partial and momentary lapse of memory.
On the balance of probability therefore, your contention that the sacking of Salleh Abas did not have anything to do with the UMNO case under appeal is flawed, to say the least. Why don't you state all these facts in your blog Dr M? And let the people who read it judge the matter after having been fed with all relevant facts. Not with facts which you think are relevant. Not with facts which you choose to remember for your own purpose and objectives.
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:39:04
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I have reserved my comment about Abdul Hamid Omar. Now is the time for me to say something about him. This was the man who was effectively Salleh Abas' subordinate. He became Acting Lord President when Salleh Abas was suspended. He was also next in line to be the Lord President, in the event Salleh Abas was sacked. History will show that he did replace Salleh Abas after his sacking. How could he then head the tribunal? He was obviously conflicted out from being in the tribunal. Justice must not only be done, but must also be seen to be done. Haven't you heard of that? Or have you forgotten about it? Or is it a case that you did not really care?

Salleh Abas was then charged, among others, for writing a letter to the King date 26.3 1988. For the benefit of those readers who don't really know the facts, this was not the letter complaining about the renovation. As I had said it, the renovation letter was never mentioned in any of the charges. The letter dated 26.3.1988 was a letter by Salleh Abas to the King to inform the King that Dr M had been attacking the judiciary. I will not touch on the merit or demerit of this letter. But what Dr M had failed to realise, or rather, what Dr M had ignored was the fact that this letter was written by Salleh Abas after all the Judges had a meeting on 25.3.1988. Even the Chairman of the tribunal, the aforesaid Abdul Hamid Omar, was present during the said meeting. In more ways than one, the said letter was a collective result of the Judges' meeting, including that of Abdul Hamid Omar, the Chairman of the tribunal.

Two questions arise here Dr M. Firstly, stretching your contention that Salleh Abas had to be removed because of that letter as well as the renovation letter to its own logical conclusion, why didn't you suspend all the Judges who attended the meeting of 25.3.1988 and institute the same proceeding, with a view of dismissing all of them? That would be its reasonable conclusion as the letter was a collective result. Secondly, how could Abdul Hamid Omar, be a part of the tribunal, let alone its Chairman when he was obviously a potential witness? But then again, the 2nd question is borne out of a legal point, and so I don't expect you to understand it, let alone grasp it.

Allow me to also set out the exact facts and events around the same time Salleh Abas was charged. In 1986, you, as Home Minister cancelled the work permit of 2 Asian Wall Street Journal journalists in Malaysia. They brought the matter to the Court and the Supreme Court held that your action was illegal and therefore invalid. You were upset. IN TIME magazine (issue of 24.11.1986), you expressed your displeasure. Contempt proceedings were brought against you by the opposition. You escaped as the proceedings were dismissed by the Court. However, the learned Judge remarked in his judgment that you were confused at the doctrine of separation of powers
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written by SocratesI, July 18, 2008 00:40:58
LAST PART.

Later, in a speech to law students, the same Judge said that the process of appointing senators should be by way of an election. You mistook, as usual, this speech as a challenge and interference in politics when all the learned Judge was doing was expressing his own personal opinion over a matter which was not entirely political but also legal as well. Of course you then had to accuse "certain Judges" as interfering with politics. You then began a series of unwarranted attacks against the judiciary at a level and intensity as yet unseen in Malaysian history. What would you do if you were Salleh Abas, the Lord President? Take all the attacks lying down while waiting for pension?

You failed to appreciate his duty as the Lord President. He was the chief of the judiciary, an essential branch of the country's administration system. As much as you were the head of the executive, so was Salleh Abas the head of the judiciary. He had to defend the very institution which he then headed. He convened a meeting of Judges on 25.3.1988 and collectively they decided to write a letter to the King about all the attacks leveled against the judiciary. What was so wrong with that? Why, you wanted him to lodge a police report over the matter?

By the way, in the present climate when every other Malay politician is trying to be more Islam than every other Malay and his pussy cats, you, of course, forgot to mention one of the charges against Salleh Abas in your blog for obvious reason. The charge was that Salleh Abas had advocated the acceptance of the Islamic legal system in Malaysia and had re-stated the law along Islamic legal principles against the multi-racial and multi-religious character of our country. Why didn't you mention this in your blog? You forgot? Or is it simply a case of you being afraid of losing the Malay support among your Malay readers if that was published by you in your blog?

Dr M, I am not your supporter. Nor am I Anwar Ibrahim's or Abdullah Badawi's supporter. I am a supporter of truth. In this matter, nobody would know the truth. But if you are persuading people that your version is the truth, I would at least, expect you to lay out the whole story. And let the people, and history, be the judge.

Do you know what the beauty of the Common Law (which we practise)? The beauty is that it is a set of laws common to all the people. That means, when a matter is wrong or right, ultimately, the common people would know. The common people. Me, and your readers.

TOUCHE, TUN SALLEH ABAS !! I SALUTE YOU, A TOWERING MALAYSIAN !! NOT LIKE MAHA-SHITHEAD, A COWERING DESPOT !!

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written by one box, July 18, 2008 00:42:06
I have never supported PKR to go for the new government this year because I don't support MP's jumping around.

I also don't care much about the Altantunya's murder by Najib.

In fact I was a bit relieved that Pak Lah has allowed the ACA to clean up immigration thinking that Pak Lah has nothing to lose by cleaning up everything and perhaps he can be re-elected again 2 years down the road.

However, after the recent days DSAI and RPK's arrest, it only forces me to think that Najib is really behind the murder because both DSAI and RPK are accsuing Najib of the murder case.

Not only so, I am beginning to see that it is not possible for Pak Lah to manage the whole mess moving forward. As the PM of the country, Pak Lah cannot sit back and wait for the events to ruin the country.

Therefore, I am beginning to support DSAI's motive of taking over in the coming 16/9 because of the incompetence of the PM.

I am sure that a lot of people are sharing my feeling..
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written by Gargamel, July 18, 2008 02:03:42
This is not only extremely embarrassing for our country, we are losing a lot of foreign investments. Who would want to invest in a country run by monkeys? Najis not only killed Altantuya, he is killing the whole country with his selfishness.
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written by AlwaysFair, July 18, 2008 02:04:15
From the essay by RPK I gather in Islam both sodomy and adultery are crimes.
But in common law (for muslims) sodomy charges are 20 yrs and adultery not considered a crime.

If I want to bring down my foe I just have to find a loophole here.If I am Anwar and want to take revenge I will obtain video clips or witness of adultery and charge the person in Muslim court because they will guilty here.

HAHA very good to use SEX to trap politicians because they enagage in it all the time mostly not with their spouses. What a great development for the political arena.The one who will win is the one with the most bed-room evidence. HAHA...I am already choking ....Mamak very clever to invent this tool so can fight dirty.

Politicians beware the ERA of "the invasion of bedroom privacy!!! "
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written by AlwaysFair, July 18, 2008 02:15:08
AYOH!!! All the opposition lawyers fight for your future leader. Fight for abolishment of anti-sodomy law which is too harsh,draconian and used by justice perverts to gain political mileage.20 yrs is a long time, that is why mamak use this.
In India already abolished not like M'sia still left there for people like mamak to abuse.All the lawyers of opposition shame on you,don't even know how to fight a war. Voice to UN for human rights abuse (already got previous case of Anwar).
The muslims don't need this law the have their own laws which are fairer sodomy treated same as adultery.
Are YOU SLEEPING??? when the enemy is attacking you? where is your defense???
If you so useless pls join the Badawi camp...to sleep.
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written by AlwaysFair, July 18, 2008 02:24:21
Lawyers of the opposition.ACTION is required from you based on Anwar's previous unlawful imprisonment, to file a petition to govt.of M'sia and United Nations to abolish "anti-sodomy" laws. Now they are using this tool again and you just don't do anything??? All the time talking no action??

You know this was a colonial law left behind by Britain which was abolished by Britain long ago , Indian a previous colony also abolished this law, only Malaysia allow this babaric law to be used time and again. Are the lawyers or human rights activists here blind or sleeping or what??? Malaysia should abolish this law if they want to remain in UN because they allowed this law to be abused and now going to repeat again..WE CANNOT REMAIN SILENT!!!
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written by AlwaysFair, July 18, 2008 02:28:09
All of the opposition lawyers either must be either stupid or sleeping.
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written by schizonoid, July 18, 2008 03:20:52
Never ever trust the BN govt. and the police(Lanun berlesen)
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written by Naha, July 18, 2008 05:54:16
Tun Salleh Abbas, I admire your integrity. I am ashamed that I cannot find one such as you among my generation.

Thank you for posting his refutation, Socrates, for I am too disgusted to even wander into Che Det's blog site for fear of being corrupted by the filth.

Mahathir Mohamed, Bapa Kehancuran Malaysia. Our children will understand this soon, as well as the lies perpetuated by UMNO to enslave a whole nation under feudalistic rule.

By the way, Che Det, please don't escape justice against the rakyat through the convenience of a stroke. Semoga panjang umur, so you may serve punishment for the massacre of Memali.

The shameful state of my beloved country is your responsibility. I curse you and hope to bear witness against you on Judgment Day.
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written by TwilightYears, July 18, 2008 08:01:22
Thanks, Socratesi for written on the subject of Tun Salleh Abbas so clearly. Your articles (in many parts) has reminded me of the extreme disgust over Dr Mahathir's action and the opportunist and sycophant of Tun Abd Hamid Omar. Many UMNO could and still can forgive Mahathir for the sacking thinking that he did it for the good of the race.

But common people like me, not being influenced by racial sentiments, thinks otherwise. Dr Mahathir has become the GREATEST LIAR in Malaysia. No one would believe that he lost his memories momentarily.

And, we have now seen many such Liars in BN government - the PM (over the hike in petrol price), the deputy PM (he denied and later affirmed that he has met the alleged sodomy victim, Saiful), and the whole cabinet of Dr Mahathir - Rafidah Aziz, Samy Vello, Ling Liong Sik. All these comical characters will, I am very sure, face the ultimate JUDGE when their lives on this earth expire. If the present PM is as Allah fearing as he presented himself, let him fear the Hellfire in life hereafter, and correct the wrongs. But the high handed arrest by the POLICE on Anwar has shown that the PM will never learn from history, nor admit the "crimes" that he and his cabinet has committed. Ultimately, everyone has to answer to the CREATOR. In this case, the word MERCY should never be applied to them for their motives are so questionable.
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written by Malaysiaku, July 18, 2008 08:15:20
The Polis and the Govt is going all out to show (not prove) that Anwar is guilty. Najis seems to be supporting that what the Polis has done in the arrest was legitimate - Anwar was arrested an hour before 2pm which was the appointed time where Anwar should present himself at IPK. The stupid Minister who, woe be on Malaysia should he become PM, even was stupid enough to say what it the problem if they arrest Anwar earlier. Anwar was never given a chance to go voluntarity to the Polis station to have his statement recorded. This is to intimidate Anwar and his family and to provoke a situation for the Govt to declare a state of emergency!

Anwar, we support you and knows that you are innocent. For any foreigners looking into this blog, it seems that in Malaysia, a person is 'guilty' first and have to prove that you are innocent in court.
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written by AlwaysFair, July 18, 2008 09:01:48
RISE UP!!!! all opposition LAWYERS fight for ABOLISHMENT OF ANTI-SODOMY LAWS in M'sia and at United Nation. Please protect innocent people from being locked up for 20 years on trumped up charges because this babaric law exist and is being abused time and again by the Malaysian govt. They cannot be trusted with such draconian laws at their disposal. ONCE BEATEN, TWICE SHY!!!TWICE BEATEN????
JUSTICE WILL DIE. SHAME ON YOU ALL LAWYERS!!! smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif
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written by Jack Sparrow, July 18, 2008 14:20:13
Wow! Just see how the arrest has sparked sentiments among the just public. If the goons in UMNO want to win, they have to lose this trial to prove to the world that our judiciary is just and amendments have been done to clean up. So in other words, both ways they will lose and that is the truth.
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written by SUV, July 18, 2008 14:23:28
yes,the country has been o trial ever since tun chootia pundek mamak n his geng took over this country.they have turned this beautiful,peacuful country in2 sodom n gomorrah.tun pundek n his geng(his 1/2pee6 son, najib,muhyuddin,syed albar...) r nervous and shaken up.as a result we see 1998 repaetign once gain...,the late fadzil noor oso wished that this maha iblis have a long life..time has come for this tun malbari kutty n geng get a dose of ther own medicine..n they will get it!! smilies/angry.gif
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